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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Nihilanthic on October 23, 2007, 01:32:35 PM

Title: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 23, 2007, 01:32:35 PM: Therapy, Doctors, and what have you.... treat until the problem is fixed. If someone NEEDS treatment they only force it as much as is necessary to keep them alive. If its is voluntary, it only goes as long as the person can benefit from treatment for a real problem AND they're willing to seek that treatment.

Should the problem be resolved or they decide they don't want help anymore, it stops.

On the other hand, programs, or to make a new lingo to be specific a "duckfarm" keeps them until they complete the program. Not until anything is fixed, if anything is wrong at all.

Why is that? How is that justified? How is the isolation and confinement and coercion and lack of any say-so justified in this situation at all?
Title: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: Dr.Zaius on October 23, 2007, 03:16:22 PM: Speak for yourself...
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Title: Re: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: TheWho on October 23, 2007, 03:36:57 PM: Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Therapy, Doctors, and what have you.... treat until the problem is fixed. If someone NEEDS treatment they only force it as much as is necessary to keep them alive. If its is voluntary, it only goes as long as the person can benefit from treatment for a real problem AND they're willing to seek that treatment.

Should the problem be resolved or they decide they don't want help anymore, it stops.

On the other hand, programs, or to make a new lingo to be specific a "duckfarm" keeps them until they complete the program. Not until anything is fixed, if anything is wrong at all.

Why is that? How is that justified? How is the isolation and confinement and coercion and lack of any say-so justified in this situation at all?

You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about, Niles, that was a mess.
Title: Re: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: Rachael on October 23, 2007, 03:41:32 PM: Quote from: ""TheWho""
You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about, Niles, that was a mess.

Translation:

Oh no, that's not a huge fucking pink elephant in my living room. It's actually just a cute little end table from Ikea.
Title: Re: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 23, 2007, 04:17:05 PM: Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Therapy, Doctors, and what have you.... treat until the problem is fixed. If someone NEEDS treatment they only force it as much as is necessary to keep them alive. If its is voluntary, it only goes as long as the person can benefit from treatment for a real problem AND they're willing to seek that treatment.

Should the problem be resolved or they decide they don't want help anymore, it stops.

On the other hand, programs, or to make a new lingo to be specific a "duckfarm" keeps them until they complete the program. Not until anything is fixed, if anything is wrong at all.

Why is that? How is that justified? How is the isolation and confinement and coercion and lack of any say-so justified in this situation at all?

You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about, Niles, that was a mess.

IOW you can't think of any logical, ethical explanation for a program's practices in light of comparing it to logical, NORMAL, MAINSTEAM, NON-FUCKED UP TREATMENT.

*gasp* The concept of treating a problem! How fucking radical!
Title: Re: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: TheWho on October 23, 2007, 05:05:18 PM: Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Therapy, Doctors, and what have you.... treat until the problem is fixed. If someone NEEDS treatment they only force it as much as is necessary to keep them alive. If its is voluntary, it only goes as long as the person can benefit from treatment for a real problem AND they're willing to seek that treatment.

Should the problem be resolved or they decide they don't want help anymore, it stops.

On the other hand, programs, or to make a new lingo to be specific a "duckfarm" keeps them until they complete the program. Not until anything is fixed, if anything is wrong at all.

Why is that? How is that justified? How is the isolation and confinement and coercion and lack of any say-so justified in this situation at all?

You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about, Niles, that was a mess.

IOW you can't think of any logical, ethical explanation for a program's practices in light of comparing it to logical, NORMAL, MAINSTEAM, NON-FUCKED UP TREATMENT.

*gasp* The concept of treating a problem! How fucking radical!

Quote from: ""Dr.Zaius""
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Title: Pink elephant moment (no, no screaming apes).
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 23, 2007, 05:07:26 PM: :roll: :rofl: