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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 12, 2007, 01:01:05 PM
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I think that you would be much more credible if you would refrain from using sarcasm as a way of making your point. It comes across as somewhat immature and demeaning. I have a hard time taking you seriously. This is a deadly serious topic and it should be treated with dignity, not with name calling, profanity, cute acronym substitutions and derogatory names for those involved. There are many parents, friends, and loved ones who are profoundly affected by the agony of substance abuse and addictions. Those looking for answers do not need condescending attitudes and confusing information from both sides of the debate. If the investigation proves that AARC is an abusive organization and Dr. Vause is an evil man then I really do hope it is shut down and he is brought up on charges. The truth will always come out.
First of all, I would like to point out that I have never heard of a cult that endeavors to reintegrate their members back into society and reunite them with their families. They are not encouraged to become healthy and productive members of society. The primary objective of a cult is to break societal and family ties forever.
From what I understand the seclusion at AARC is temporary until they are able to identify and deal with the root of the addiction. The seclusion is also not complete as family members are not only encouraged but required to attend certain meetings. When the kids enter AARC it is not known if one of the contributing factors to the addiction is in fact parental influence. Once the family dynamic is considered to be healthy then it is safe to have kids return home. All possible contributing factors must be removed at the outset. It is hard to treat a disease if the sick person is regularly exposed to one of the contributing factors. On the other hand, the most well meaning parent can feel the need to “rescueâ€
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Exactly.
They'd better close up some correctional institutions too. Why some of them get out and murder and are violent and are screwed up. It's totally the guards faults.
Thank you so much for posting this one.
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These same people who leave correctional facilities and go and kill people would have done so anyways. Their identities are not recreated.
The same can't be said for AARC.
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Correctional institutions many times have an adverse effect on those who are sent there. There appears to be little correction or rehabilitation that happens there. It is just a place to hide them away until they can get out and apply everything they learned while being locked away with others just like them. At least at AARC the kids are paired up with those who are showing improvements and who may just have a positive effect on them. We know how much peer pressure plays a role in kid's choices. If you think that AARC reforms them then good for AARC. Isn't that what they need?
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ya, I love it too.
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Thanks for caring AARColytes. You never fail to demonstrate respect and courtesy.
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Correctional institutions many times have an adverse effect on those who are sent there. There appears to be little correction or rehabilitation that happens there. It is just a place to hide them away until they can get out and apply everything they learned while being locked away with others just like them. At least at AARC the kids are paired up with those who are showing improvements and who may just have a positive effect on them. We know how much peer pressure plays a role in kid's choices. If you think that AARC reforms them then good for AARC. Isn't that what they need?
Is that you, Wiz?
73 % success rate for prisons doesn't seem too bad
especially when that's a real, valid study and the wiz's is nothing of the sort
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If Gerry Goresky, Natalie Imbach, Dean Vause, Peter Choate and someone from the Union Institute didn't write it, that is no study sir!
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If Gerry Goresky, Natalie Imbach, Dean Vause, Peter Choate and someone from the Union Institute didn't write it, that is no study sir!
That's right, nothing coming from Corrections Canada has any validity
signed
Dean
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So I wonder when AARC is going to fall victim to all your hate propoganda?
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So I wonder when AARC is going to fall victim to all your hate propoganda?
Good question. It took a fuck long time for Miller Newton to get finally get shut down. With Dean being just as much of a egomaniacal narcissist as Newton, his time is coming.
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I think AARC's going to fall victim to itself, and much sooner than I had ever anticipated.
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It owes much of its success to an ongoing clinical research focus, to excellent selection and training of both professionals and peer counselors, to significant involvement of client families, and to the vision and skill of its administration.
Would that be carefully selected, trained professionals running off with the ongoing clinical research that contributes to the success? Or is that just the skill of the administration?
So confusing.
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I think it's the exellent selection and training of staff like Brian Neil, dead; Mr. G, run off and accused of not just using drugs, but selling them; Jessica D, accused of using drugs; Marty Haag, not sure what happened with that; Natalie Oldcomer, very stable person who checked themselves into teenaged rehab at 22; the Wizard himself, highly capable dodgeball coach and high school guidance counsellor. As to the Intake Coordinator/Clinical Supervisor, it's back to Spahn's movie ranch to look for Charlie.
Helter Skelter!
Helter Skelter everyone!