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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 04:46:16 PM

Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 04:46:16 PM
As a convicted sex offender he is apparently not allowed to go on road trips to programs because there are youth involved so can the moderators please explain why he is allowed to post here?
Parents who read his program advertisements for Aspen may actually take his advice. he has chased many good posters off the board with his bullshit spamming.

HE has repeatedly made up lies (remember his bogus charts anyone?) and spams the board anon with his bullshit

So why was he reinstated?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 07:57:32 PM
TheWho donated a large sum of money to fornits, and then he was reinstated. Fornits admin claim the two are not related, but I am suspicious.. i guess its true, everyone has their price..
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:28:30 PM
Wut chu talkin' bout, Willis?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Oz girl on September 21, 2007, 03:25:46 AM
I would like to believe that this is not true. I dont know what the explaination is but it can't be this surely.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: psy on September 21, 2007, 03:46:51 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
TheWho donated a large sum of money to fornits, and then he was reinstated. Fornits admin claim the two are not related, but I am suspicious.. i guess its true, everyone has their price..


That's a fucked up thing to say, guest, especially without bothering to ask me about it first.  Who the hell started that rumor?  That i'd like to find out.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Che Gookin on September 21, 2007, 04:33:36 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""Guest""
TheWho donated a large sum of money to fornits, and then he was reinstated. Fornits admin claim the two are not related, but I am suspicious.. i guess its true, everyone has their price..

That's a fucked up thing to say, guest, especially without bothering to ask me about it first.  Who the hell started that rumor?  That i'd like to find out.


This is the forum that spawned a rumor that web diva was actually a Three Springs Employee and I was still living in Alabama. Apparently I was running the forum on the behest of my "boss" web diva.

 :lol:


Rumors are like arseholes everyone has one and they all stink.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: psy on September 21, 2007, 05:04:40 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""Guest""
TheWho donated a large sum of money to fornits, and then he was reinstated. Fornits admin claim the two are not related, but I am suspicious.. i guess its true, everyone has their price..

That's a fucked up thing to say, guest, especially without bothering to ask me about it first.  Who the hell started that rumor?  That i'd like to find out.


The who did not donate any sum of money that I am aware of.  Ginger would know for sure, but i seriously doubt it. If it is true ginger owes me some money!  :D  Seriously.  This shit is absurd.  Where did you get this information from?  I suggest you get proof.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Oz girl on September 21, 2007, 05:13:21 AM
i am glad that has been cleared up. But why was he let back on?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Che Gookin on September 21, 2007, 05:22:34 AM
I think you ought to ask why he was kicked off in the first place. He was booted for flooding and it turns out he wasn't flooding after all.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 07:50:33 AM
fornits has an ideology  it applies when convenient.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Froderik on September 21, 2007, 09:09:06 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
This shit is absurd.

Exactly, so take it for what it's worth -- just some joker having a bit of fun making ppl ask "Really?" etc... Ignore it and it'll go away.
Title: Re: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Froderik on September 21, 2007, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
As a convicted sex offender he is apparently not allowed to go on road trips to programs because there are youth involved so can the moderators please explain why he is allowed to post here?
Parents who read his program advertisements for Aspen may actually take his advice. he has chased many good posters off the board with his bullshit spamming.

HE has repeatedly made up lies (remember his bogus charts anyone?) and spams the board anon with his bullshit

So why was he reinstated?

While your intentions are noble, you ultimately can't 'patrol the borders' of fornits like that. There are too many ways to get in or around a banned IP address. Besides, then everyone would :cry2: that the fornits admins are nazis, etc.

Instead of attempting to ban TheWho, why not start an informative "sticky" thread? This thread would cite TheWho's program advertisements for Aspen and whatever else, giving the low-down to new people. It could be set up so that admins only could post on it...just a thought.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:28:47 AM
I think that is a good idea.. Ha, Ha, Ha.. we must remember to ensure that standards apply equally for everyone. Otherwise it isn't  "Fair", and if we are going to shut down this abusive industry together we need to agree on the ground rules.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Froderik on September 21, 2007, 09:36:22 AM
I think a hear a Who.. ^
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
I think that is a good idea.. Ha, Ha, Ha.. we must remember to ensure that standards apply equally for everyone. Otherwise it isn't  "Fair", and if we are going to shut down this abusive industry together we need to agree on the ground rules.



Someone is posting that the who's (allegedly) a convicted sex offender, apparently guilty of abusing a child.  If that's the case, he has no right to be here, he's a threat to teens posting.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Antigen on September 21, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""
This is the forum that spawned a rumor that web diva was actually a Three Springs Employee and I was still living in Alabama. Apparently I was running the forum on the behest of my "boss" web diva.

Here I thought that was just pillow talk.

Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
I think that is a good idea.. Ha, Ha, Ha.. we must remember to ensure that standards apply equally for everyone. Otherwise it isn't  "Fair", and if we are going to shut down this abusive industry together we need to agree on the ground rules.


Someone is posting that the who's (allegedly) a convicted sex offender, apparently guilty of abusing a child.  If that's the case, he has no right to be here, he's a threat to teens posting.


This is the first I've heard of that. But honestly, criminal history, even serious child abuse, cannot be a bar from posting to a forum about the troubled parent industry. Shit, we'd have no input from former staff or even most program graduates or any parents if I set that standard.

And no, as far as I know, Who hasn't donated any money though I don't know for sure the identity of all donors. In any event, that wouldn't influence my decision. It's just as Psy says. At the time I banned him I was limited in my ability to research the question. Once Psy and Kelly got the database back in order we were better able to assess it. It was not an easy call at all. But we had to conclude, based on the facts, that his activity approached flooding and often goes way over the line of trolling and annoyance but didn't come close to what most people call flooding. And, as you say, we really do have to be as fair and consistent as humanly possible. As much as it pissed some people off, I think we made the right call this time.

A prime tenet of my thinking when I first opened these forums was tosee if we win the argument simply by showing that we're just plain right, not by shutting down dissent. If the programs worked this way--by actually exploring ideas and using sense and reason instead of censorship and control--then I wouldn't even have a problem with them.
Title: Re: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
So why was he reinstated?
While your intentions are noble, you ultimately can't 'patrol the borders' of fornits like that. There are too many ways to get in or around a banned IP address. Besides, then everyone would :cry2: that the fornits admins are nazis, etc.

Instead of attempting to ban TheWho, why not start an informative "sticky" thread? This thread would cite TheWho's program advertisements for Aspen and whatever else, giving the low-down to new people. It could be set up so that admins only could post on it...just a thought.[/quote]

This is actually a pretty good idea. What would need to go on is the original and deleted post where he was outed as a sex offender and where he admitted as much. It is important that parents especially know that this sick fuck who presents as some kind of voice of reason is more than just some pro program parent. He is actually a sinister figure who is capeable of justifying criminal behavior. Young people are not safe from this man. This is a step beyond the run of the mill program parent
Title: Re: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Antigen on September 21, 2007, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""

While your intentions are noble, you ultimately can't 'patrol the borders' of fornits like that. There are too many ways to get in or around a banned IP address. Besides, then everyone would :cry2: that the fornits admins are nazis, etc.

Instead of attempting to ban TheWho, why not start an informative "sticky" thread? This thread would cite TheWho's program advertisements for Aspen and whatever else, giving the low-down to new people. It could be set up so that admins only could post on it...just a thought.

This is actually a pretty good idea. What would need to go on is the original and deleted post where he was outed as a sex offender and where he admitted as much. It is important that parents especially know that this sick fuck who presents as some kind of voice of reason is more than just some pro program parent. He is actually a sinister figure who is capeable of justifying criminal behavior. Young people are not safe from this man. This is a step beyond the run of the mill program parent


Ok, so then we need some who's who threads. Fornits regular posters as such and frequently mentioned people as they are. You think we should do this under website hosting or as a moderated thing?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Oz girl on September 21, 2007, 06:20:24 PM
I would suggest putting it in the Troubled teen forum as this is prolly the most frequently read. Especially by people new to the board
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 06:27:34 PM
You should start out with the posts where he admitted to being a sex offender and then follow up with the ones he deleted.  These should be at the top.  Putting it in the Troubled Teen forum is a good idea.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 07:16:53 PM
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and then follow up with the ones he deleted


When something is deleted in phpbb, unless Ginger has some very lucky, very old backups of the SQL, it's GONE.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 07:34:33 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
If the programs worked this way--by actually exploring ideas and using sense and reason instead of censorship and control--then I wouldn't even have a problem with them.


It wouldn't be a program then.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
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and then follow up with the ones he deleted

When something is deleted in phpbb, unless Ginger has some very lucky, very old backups of the SQL, it's GONE.


No, not true.  In SQL as well as other relational databases the deleted posts are stored in their own table automatically.  It will be easy find.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 08:53:54 PM
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.
 
I find this whole discussion interesting.  We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false.  But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not.  Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:

Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:02:11 PM
Quote from: "TheWho"
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.
 
I find this whole discussion interesting.  We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false.  But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not.  Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:

Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Who?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on September 21, 2007, 09:03:05 PM
How about a poll: should the posts be 'shared', or not?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:09:48 PM
I used to think the whole "TheWho is a sex offender" thing was just a troll.

Now.. now, I'm not so sure.

BTW, the posts weren't "deleted", they were edited out of existence. He's done that with a lot of other posts, you can find them if you're willing to search through hundreds of pages of Whospam.

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Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:09:54 PM
If he really is a child molester than I think everyone should know.
 I found it hard to believe it first but his silence on the matter convinced me otherwise. It looks like now that he is getting found out he is in damage control mode.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
If he really is a child molester than I think everyone should know.
 I found it hard to believe it first but his silence on the matter convinced me otherwise. It looks like now that he is getting found out he is in damage control mode.


All posts (edited or deleted) are saved in their corresponding history table in "phpbb"  .....  the evidence is in the database.....  lets do it!  I think our "guest" would like to see the results as soon as possible.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
 Do they let off steam and embellish?  Do they sometimes make up stories to make someone look bad?  Maybe a counselor or teacher because they were forced to study?  



http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21209 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21209)


Forced to drink cum, piss, eat shit. [/b]
Duct-taped from head to toe for no reason. (my favorite)
No toilet paper.
Had rocks and items thrown at me.
Locked in a hot, wooden box.
Forced to eat paper.
Forced to be naked for a week.
Thrown into the ocean during a typhoon. ( I think he would keep blowing back ,would'nt he?)
Kicked down a hill and had logs thrown on me.
Had a chair slammed into my gut.
Obtained more skin diseases than a POW in Vietnam.
Forced to carry "sandbags" of rocks up and down hills.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:22:46 PM
This isn't Wikipedia. There is no history table in phpBB. Diffs are not saved anywhere. Whoever posted to the contrary was thinking of a business system in which they might be. Not here.

And you damn well know that, which is why you can continue pretending with this.

Was it your daughter, Who? Is that why you had to send her away?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 09:30:27 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
This isn't Wikipedia. There is no history table in phpBB. Diffs are not saved anywhere. Whoever posted to the contrary was thinking of a business system in which they might be. Not here.

And you damn well know that, which is why you can continue pretending with this.

Was it your daughter, Who? Is that why you had to send her away?


dont ask me!!  go onto the "phpbb website (http://http://www.phpbb.com/)" and check it out for yourself or ask, psy, webdiva or Ginger.  Its not rocket science. The history is in the database, it just needs to be retrieved and reposted.... I give my permission.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: "TheWho"
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.
 
I find this whole discussion interesting.  We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false.  But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not.  Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:

Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
:rofl:
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:13:13 PM
How could anyone produce evidence TheWho molested his daughter?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:16:15 PM
My dad molested me and then sent me to a program to cover it up.

I hate him so much!
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 10:18:36 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
How could anyone produce evidence TheWho molested his daughter?


Read from the beginning.  Someone has been claiming thewho posted that he was a sex offender here on fornits and then deleted it.  We are all interested in seeing the original post.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:18:37 PM
well.. guess that settles it..
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 21, 2007, 10:20:34 PM
The who is an ass, not a child molester.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:30:39 PM
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.


Thewho makes a valid point.  If people are just making up lies about him to discredit his posts then that is wrong, even though I dont agree with him.  Lets just wait to see what the history file says.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 10:44:01 PM
The trial is scheduled to begin soon, no cost will be spared, don't worry.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 21, 2007, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.

lol  :rofl:
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 21, 2007, 11:00:30 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
The trial is scheduled to begin soon, no cost will be spared, don't worry.


We shall see.......
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 11:04:22 PM
Are you suggesting that the admins do not want to waste their time with this  very important topic, quite possibly the most important issue so far this year ? Is that what you are suggesting?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2007, 04:47:40 AM
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
The who is an ass, not a child molester.


Im afraid that is not correct hanzomon.
Somebody posted a listing from the MA sex offender registry. The Who then got angry and used the words on the board "i have paid my debt to society". About a day after posting this he edited his post.
The whole thread is now lost as are many others from the recent move. The Who is also banned from going on this road trip due to this. As to whether he committed an offence against his daughter or someone else is immaterial. Parents need to know of this man's history when he floods the board with his lies. Then they can honestly make up their own mind.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Oz girl on September 22, 2007, 04:58:13 AM
Quote from: "TheWho"
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.
 
I find this whole discussion interesting.  We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false.  But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not.  Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:

Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 22, 2007, 07:30:23 AM
Quote from: "Oz girl"
Quote from: "TheWho"
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.
 
I find this whole discussion interesting.  We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false.  But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not.  Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:

Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: BS vs truth
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2007, 10:17:25 AM
Child abuse in any form is a very very serious matter. IF the Who person actually committed this crime, thats a horrible thing. If he is on the sex offender registry, which every state has, the only way to find him would be to know his name, which I have never seen posted on here (I must have missed it maybe?) Anyway, if its an actual fact then saying that he is one is just a true statement and a disgusting one at that. However, is it possible that he really isnt on the sex offender registry? Can someone prove once and for all what the truth is on this matter? If he really hasnt committed child abuse its a pretty heinous thing to accuse someone of it and them be innocent. Ive had people say before on here that I was a child abuser and should have my kid taken away, as far from the truth as that is, it was still hurtful. I guess my point is, you can call someone a bitch or an asshole, say you dont like them or their beliefs, but when you accuse someone of a crime, and they are not guilty, thats another matter. I just am wondering if the whole sex offender thing is true or not. Can anyone provide proof one way or the other? I dont know this Who person so I have no clue.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 22, 2007, 11:36:04 AM
My thoughts are its either true or Who posting it himself to chip away at credibility around here.  Read this from page 4 of this thread and tell me what you think.


Quote
All right I'll bite:

I hereby give permission to make public any post(s) (deleted or otherwise) I made saying I admitted to being a sex offender.

I find this whole discussion interesting. We have been reading for years here on fornits about how kids have been abused and wondering which of the posts are embellished, which are true and which are false. But there is no way to verify whether or not all the stories are true or not. Its seems we have an opportunity to verify the validity of some of these posts………

So the question put before us is:
Do some posters sometimes come on here and tell a “tall taleâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 22, 2007, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
The who is an ass, not a child molester.

Im afraid that is not correct hanzomon.
Somebody posted a listing from the MA sex offender registry. The Who then got angry and used the words on the board "i have paid my debt to society". About a day after posting this he edited his post.
The whole thread is now lost as are many others from the recent move. The Who is also banned from going on this road trip due to this. As to whether he committed an offence against his daughter or someone else is immaterial. Parents need to know of this man's history when he floods the board with his lies. Then they can honestly make up their own mind.


What do you have to say about this Who?

I'm not ready to believe this but this does make one wonder. Until I see proof or you admit it I'll keep saying that you are just an asshole.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 22, 2007, 08:19:08 PM
There was a similar issue about a year ago, where someone posted some private information about a person named Devon being bisexual , by one of the staff members (I cant mention the school).  RobertBruce, I think was the poster,  became very pissed off and came to this person Devons defense and claimed the staff violated a rule called HIPPA, the staff member claimed this person Devon posted this information himself and he was just repeating what he read here on fornits, not from the school, therefore no HIPPA violation.  The original post was eventually found and he did state himself that he was bisexual so the staff person proved his case.  Robertbruce later edited out the original message (I guess they were the same person). The question was asked if the information was gone forever and he was told that the original post could be retrieved if requested and that all edited and deleted posts are kept in the history folder.

So if someone claimed thewho admitted to being a sex offender there is an easy solution, just have the poster who claims he said it show us the post that was edited and webdiva, psy etc. can check the edit history or thewhos posts (edit history) can be screened by running a simple search for the word “registryâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 22, 2007, 08:37:12 PM
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Somebody posted a listing from the MA sex offender registry


I searched the entire database for "MA Sex Registry", "MA Sex offender", "Massachusetts Sex offender" and didnt find anything on thewho or any posting where a sex offender was even posted.  Thewho could not have edited someone elses post.  I think we have all been had.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 04:16:20 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote
Somebody posted a listing from the MA sex offender registry

I searched the entire database for "MA Sex Registry", "MA Sex offender", "Massachusetts Sex offender" and didnt find anything on thewho or any posting where a sex offender was even posted.  Thewho could not have edited someone elses post.  I think we have all been had.



Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.



Hey, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen and that is damned frustrating. He's the only one who can do that.  I was just presenting a theory.   I wish there was some way to retrieve it.  Have you contacted Ginger or anyone else through PMs to see if there is any chance?  There must at least be a Google 'cached' page??  I have no idea what I'm talking about so someone tell me if that's not possible.  

Hey. Let's try this.

The Who.....have you ever been charged with lewd and lascivious behavior or child molestation or anything similar?  Anything in that realm?  This is your chance to state, unequivocally one way or the other what your side of the story is.  Or do you not want to 'go on record' so to speak, denying it in case you're proven wrong later?  I really have no fucking clue.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 08:23:46 PM
How fitting that Anne has you on the spot !!
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: psy on September 23, 2007, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote
Somebody posted a listing from the MA sex offender registry

I searched the entire database for "MA Sex Registry", "MA Sex offender", "Massachusetts Sex offender" and didnt find anything on thewho or any posting where a sex offender was even posted.  Thewho could not have edited someone elses post.  I think we have all been had.


Hmm.... I think somebody... not guest... should check that registry for an "alan".  As far as why a thread is not there... No clue.  Could have happened if TSW authored the thread (fubar with the database).  Do you have a link?  I / Kelly can try to do a search of the backups.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 10:00:07 PM
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNameList.asp (http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNameList.asp)

This site will not bring anytrhing up without a last name. If anyone knows the last name of the who plase do the search
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 10:00:45 PM
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNameList.asp (http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNameList.asp)

This site will not bring anything up without a last name. If anyone knows the last name of the who please do the search
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: psy on September 23, 2007, 10:15:16 PM
You can also do nationwide here (http://http://www.nsopr.gov/).  I don't know the guy's last name for sure.  I have a few good ideas / probabilities, but so far those show up negative on the above site.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 23, 2007, 10:21:15 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.


Hey, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen and that is damned frustrating. He's the only one who can do that.  I was just presenting a theory.   I wish there was some way to retrieve it.  Have you contacted Ginger or anyone else through PMs to see if there is any chance?  There must at least be a Google 'cached' page??  I have no idea what I'm talking about so someone tell me if that's not possible.  

Hey. Let's try this.

The Who.....have you ever been charged with lewd and lascivious behavior or child molestation or anything similar?  Anything in that realm?  This is your chance to state, unequivocally one way or the other what your side of the story is.  Or do you not want to 'go on record' so to speak, denying it in case you're proven wrong later?  I really have no fucking clue.


Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 10:27:19 PM
Lucky you didn't end up in a program (or state run boot camp or something) for the underage arrest. They can really suck, in case you hadn't heard.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
psy. Is there a way of getting back all of the lost posts from the move? This is the only way to bring this thread back.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 10:57:29 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.




Hey, I didn't put you there.   If this isn't true and someone is just fucking around, its a huge waste of time and makes us all look like idiots.  That's why part of me leans towards it being you or some friend of yours (so you can point and say 'look at the IP, its no me') doing it so that you can sit back and point to this episode as proof positive that everyone on Fornits is just a lying, manipulative druggie.   edit.  Disgruntled.  I forgot disgruntled.  :rofl:
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 10:58:30 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Lucky you didn't end up in a program (or state run boot camp or something) for the underage arrest. They can really suck, in case you hadn't heard.


 ::nod::


God knows kids are shipped off for far less.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 23, 2007, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""TheWho""

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.



Hey, I didn't put you there.   If this isn't true and someone is just fucking around, its a huge waste of time and makes us all look like idiots.  That's why part of me leans towards it being you or some friend of yours (so you can point and say 'look at the IP, its no me') doing it so that you can sit back and point to this episode as proof positive that everyone on Fornits is just a lying, manipulative druggie.


I dont know who it is, but I called our IS people and they seem to have a solution, they will be emailing me in a minute or so.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 11:06:17 PM
Well, do keep us posted.  I know I'm on the edge of my seat.
:roll:
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Hey, I didn't put you there.   If this isn't true and someone is just fucking around, its a huge waste of time and makes us all look like idiots.  That's why part of me leans towards it being you or some friend of yours (so you can point and say 'look at the IP, its no me') doing it so that you can sit back and point to this episode as proof positive that everyone on Fornits is just a lying, manipulative druggie.


While I can assure you that I am not just fucking around and i did see this post, it is also extremely frustrating as it has been lost. So in spite of my best efforts it looks crazy. I am beginning to regret this as doing more harm than good. But i know what I saw. it is possible that when the who claimed he had paid his debt to society he was referring to his arrest as a student but this is hard to believe as he would have just said so
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 11:13:49 PM
An honest mistake is an honest mistake but that's a pretty heavy accusation to make without being sure.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 23, 2007, 11:15:52 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Well, do keep us posted.  I know I'm on the edge of my seat.
:roll:


Well, you do sound a little concerned, thank you.. Anne, unless you are being Sarcastic.

I would think there would be a copy of the old database somewhere.  Ginger, I am sure, would have kept (several) copies on her old system and history.

Psy ....my IS people sent me this:

If you find an old copy and it is in SQL cut and paste this in and run it using “registryâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 11:25:24 PM
I don't understand who goes through this much trouble to defend themselves unless they are trying to hide something.
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Well, do keep us posted.  I know I'm on the edge of my seat.
:roll:


Well, you do sound a little concerned, thank you.. Anne, unless you are being Sarcastic.

I would think there would be a copy of the old database somewhere.  Ginger, I am sure, would have kept (several) copies on her old system and history.

Psy, my IS people sent me this:

If you find an old copy and it is in SQL cut and paste this in and run it using “registryâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: psy on September 24, 2007, 06:10:35 AM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.


Hey, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen and that is damned frustrating. He's the only one who can do that.  I was just presenting a theory.   I wish there was some way to retrieve it.  Have you contacted Ginger or anyone else through PMs to see if there is any chance?  There must at least be a Google 'cached' page??  I have no idea what I'm talking about so someone tell me if that's not possible.  

Hey. Let's try this.

The Who.....have you ever been charged with lewd and lascivious behavior or child molestation or anything similar?  Anything in that realm?  This is your chance to state, unequivocally one way or the other what your side of the story is.  Or do you not want to 'go on record' so to speak, denying it in case you're proven wrong later?  I really have no fucking clue.

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.

What were you arrested for at the age of 22?
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: TheWho on September 24, 2007, 07:58:12 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.


Hey, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen and that is damned frustrating. He's the only one who can do that.  I was just presenting a theory.   I wish there was some way to retrieve it.  Have you contacted Ginger or anyone else through PMs to see if there is any chance?  There must at least be a Google 'cached' page??  I have no idea what I'm talking about so someone tell me if that's not possible.  

Hey. Let's try this.

The Who.....have you ever been charged with lewd and lascivious behavior or child molestation or anything similar?  Anything in that realm?  This is your chance to state, unequivocally one way or the other what your side of the story is.  Or do you not want to 'go on record' so to speak, denying it in case you're proven wrong later?  I really have no fucking clue.

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.
What were you arrested for at the age of 22?


I parked my car in front of the main entrance to the cafeteria blocking the doors and started handing out flyers showing workers salaries and how the school was underpaying their cafeteria workers and not providing health benefits for only this group of workers.  I lasted almost an hour, distributed 500 fliers and they did a story about it in the “Boston Phoenixâ€
Title: Why was the who allowed back onto the board?
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2007, 08:04:42 AM
Lols... The only sex offender on this forum is MGDP. That sick fucker is distracting you all from him fucking kids in the ass at the waterpark by playing you all off on the Who.

 :rofl:  :rofl: