General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 11, 2007, 01:27:33 AM
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2007, 01:27:33 AM
september 11 went from a random day to meaning a whole lot more than just a date.
so where were you on that fateful day?
i shoudl of been asleep, it was only 6am here, but i happened to be awake getting ready to take my roomate to school since I wanted the car that day. so we were up and watched it all live on CNN when the second plane hit we shat our pants and realized it was terrerrerrerristtstssss.
i have a serious distastes for the seemingly ever present people who embrace religious fundamentalism from many religions. i think these people were gross for what they did, it had no purpose at all. a bad idea taken way too far and now just continues to effect people's lives. instead of celebrating war and death and destruction its time we found a new god.
so where were you..
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2007, 02:58:02 AM
Parents: "Come quick, take a look at this, a plane just hit the twin towers!"
Me: "Yes. I see it. It's six fucking AM. I'm going back to bed."
Parents: "Another one hit the tower, come look!"
Me: "It's the same shit. I see it. Planes hit the towers. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. I'm going back to bed."
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: webdiva on September 11, 2007, 03:24:01 AM
oh shit its 9/11 lol.. uh well i worked 1 mile from that BOMB that exploded at the pentagon. i have yet to meet a human that saw a plane or smellled fuel, but whatever.
at that time i worked for an "Airport Security company" how ironic. I quit shortly after cuz they, like everyone else, became interested in taking advantage of the ignorant american public and makng much money in a short amount of time, and they were non profit gotta love that. someone profitted.
So i was at work, we all saw it live on tv. life went on. i was on a plane 3 weeks later flying to disney world for a convention. lol to me it was never a matter of if.. just when. still is, always will be. life's too short to let the media and the government instill such a fear in us that we somehow think the government is a NECESSITY. I don't think so and i'd like to tkeep it that way. Too bad so many other brainwashed folks out there can't see clearly and continue to buy into the hype.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Froderik on September 11, 2007, 08:57:31 AM
I was in my kitchen listening to the Howard Stern show (this was back when you could still hear it on the radio.) They started talking about it... My ex-wife had the TV on, so I went in the living room and we saw the 2nd plane hit. I had a job interview that day, with a bit of a distance to drive. I kept listening to the Stern show while driving around.. I was a little nervous driving around that day. I picked up some booze on the way home.
The US has a long history of dealing with Saudi Arabia. The CIA ended up supplying arms to Muslim fanatics in an attempt to thwart Communism. (Your enemy's enemy is your friend kind of thing.) I don't think we "saw it coming" or anything like that, but the CIA inadvertently made 9/11 possible...
I suspect people will have more to say about the political background of this tragic event...perhaps this thread should be moved to Tacitus' Realm.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 11, 2007, 10:27:53 AM
My husband and I were separated (we ended up reconciling and have been married for 16 years now) and I was in my apartment. As I was making coffee, I heard about the first tower being hit and then watched the rest live. I called my kids, husband (who was out of town for football. we had a hard time getting him home) and my mom. We just couldn't believe it when the towers actually came down.
MSNBC is running it 'as it happened' today. 2nd tower is about to go.
(all I have is the biz & financial sat. pkg @ work)
Title: 9/11
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
I was living close to NYC... My Dad was in town looking for a place to rent so he could be near when I delivered Bambino #2. He was staying at a friend's right by the WTC. He saw the first plane hit out the window. When he saw the second plane hit, he knew it was no accident. He saw what he thought was debris falling from the high rise windows... but it soon became apparent it was people. Jumping. That was chilling. To know that you will die and pick your choice method. Jump or burn?
The whole neighborhood had a bit of that war zone feeling, smoke and debris... there was no communication... they weren't sure if there more explosions imminent in the city... eventually, he was evacuated via boat to Jersey City...
I just remember frantic worry about my friends and my Dad 'cause at that point we didn't know how this would all unfold.
God, what a day. But not really surprising in a sense.
Even though many people I know responded in a reactionary matter, I'd still rather live free with risk than make everything CheckPoint Charlie.
Title: Re: 9/11
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 11, 2007, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: ""S-Lea""
God, what a day. But not really surprising in a sense.
I wasn't surprised about us being attacked, but it did shock me that the Towers came down so quickly.
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Even though many people I know responded in a reactionary matter, I'd still rather live free with risk than make everything CheckPoint Charlie.
::cheers:: ::bandit::
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Rude Intrusion on September 11, 2007, 02:39:10 PM
I was where I am right now when I first saw the news, but I didn't know what I was seeing. AOL had a photo up of a building in flames. I didn't even give it a second look. I figured it to be an add for some new disaster movie. After logging off, I went and got a cup of coffee and sat down to check out Court TV. The news was on. There was a shot of New York City all shrouded in thick "smoke", which was wafting out into the harbor. I yelled for my friend to come quick - NYC was burning! As the day progressed, there was one shocking revelation after another. This run of shocking information went on for weeks and months. It is still difficult to understand how they managed to pull that off. Afterwards, I was surprised at how strange it was to not see airplanes over head; and how happy I felt to see them flying again. Relieved somehow. I never fail to think about 9 - 11 now, when ever I see a plane go over, and that is frequently. I wanted to go see the places where all this happened. Ground zero as they call it. The field in Pennsylvania. The Pentagon. People thought it was morbid , but it didn't feel that way to me. It seemed more like a tribute or a pilgrimage. But I never went. Probably never will.
Title: Disturbing
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2007, 04:24:31 PM
What was disturbing was that my ex and his friend came home from work early (everyone did), and were laughing and partying like none of it mattered. They were almost giddy.
I mean, to me, it was so enormously sad. Sad any way you slice it--whatever your beliefs --be it caused by terrorism or conspiracy. Families lost their mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters, husbands and wives.... and it was so emblematic of the break down in East-West relations. The visceral hatred--the inability to build a bridge simply on the grounds of humanity...
I can understand feeling an adrenaline peak. I can understand feeling strangely energetic or deflated... but laughing and joking and carrying on right in the midst of it?
I don't understand that.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: webdiva on September 11, 2007, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
I suspect people will have more to say about the political background of this tragic event...perhaps this thread should be moved to Tacitus' Realm.
yes but moving it would then imply that this discussion is about the politics of it, rather then just having it be an open discussion about the day/event, which was probably the posters intention. just my .039894 cents.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on September 11, 2007, 07:47:36 PM
I worked nights driving for the St. Pete Times then, and had gotten up to check on my mail on my day/morning off. I had been up until 3 a.m. that morning watching and taping an X-Files Marathon. I turned on the TV for the hell of it and they were showing live footage of the fire in the first tower and then the footage of the plane that hit it.
I immediately called a buddy who I worked with who had the same days off and we both stayed on the phone talking and watching as the second plane hit. We were both a little freaked out and then said our goodbyes to call family members and see what they thought about it all. I lost track of how many friends and neighbors that I saw and talked to the next few hours as everything unveiled and the towers came down. Pretty much up until that point, I thought that it was an act of terrorism, but when the towers came down the way they did, I started to have my doubts. The memory of the planned demolition of the Soreno Hotel downtown came to mind and the way that it came down after all those charges went off was still too fresh in my mind I guess. Them buildings came down too precisely and too uniform to have been anything other than a controlled set of explosions. The way the media kept slamming us over the head with the same footage over and over again, pretty much convinced me that this was some kind of put-on.
I got some sleep finally, and when after I got up, a neighbor who worked for the credit bureau stopped by and I fired up my Windows 98 Flight Simulator. I entered a program to fly a 737 along the path that the first plane supposedly took. The program allowed for crashing into the World Trade Center. Doing the sharp bank that happened over the Hudson River that took the plane less than 200 feet above the George Washington Bridge was tricky as hell. It took me and my neighbor about 13 tries before we finally nailed it. We had to use the fuckin airbrakes and slow the jet to damn near stall speed and then jam the throttle to get it back on course. After that, hitting the tower was a piece of cake.
Now some people might think that a person has to have some pretty sick brains to do what we did, but I basically had to satisfy my curiosity and prove to myself that the 9/11 attacks were just an elaborate hoax to get our government in place for the inevidable oil crisis that is yet to come. From what I experienced from spending about 3 hours messing around on a pretty sophisticated computer program, the attacks on them towers were done by professionals with military training, not a bunch of illiterate fanatical camel jockeys who could'nt even fly a Cessna 172 without messing up.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Deborah on September 11, 2007, 08:54:08 PM
I was hanging out, stretching, drinking tea, trying not to think about being another year older in a few days.... when my daughter called and screamed, "Do you know what's going on? Turn on the tv now!!' She was freaking out. Her husband's building (largest in town) was being evacuated. She was scared for his life. For her family. For the country.
I turned it on and all I could say was, "damn... amazing." I think I may have chuckled, sacastically. In a calm voice I reassured her that there was nothing to worry about. His building was safe. She'd be safe. Her kids were safe.
"What?, You don't know that !! They said they're targeting all the tallest buildings in the country !! His building is being evacuated now."
I asked her to calm down and notice what buildings were hit.
With no reference, she didn't get the significance. And actually got angry because I wasn't hysterically upset.
I watched and taped for a couple of days, noticing the stories change with each report. Wondering... how'd they orchestrate this one? Will the 'sheeple' buy it? Of course they will.......
Title: 911
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on September 11, 2007, 11:21:52 PM
shee[/u] or sheo)ple* today on TV too!!
I was listening to the radio and watching the news today - no audio. So the guy on the radio is reading an essay about 911 and they happen to show some of the live footage from groundzero. Then there was live footage of this evening. It was kind of scary: sheople going in and out of Starbucks and taxis acting like it never happened 'cept the 'moment of silence' in observance. All over... all better...yeahsureright * baabaabaa
Many years ago when I was in my teens, I happened to watch some of Ollie North's railroad ride. He talked about Osama and the loyal/chosen and about how dedicated and driven they were. And about how much they hated the American infidels. And about how terrifying they were. And about how relentless they are. And that they are coming... check that...
They've been and gone. They'll be back. I feel like I'm talking about theTerminator. War scares me. Anything that costs ANY life is wrong.
Okay. So... I ws asleep when my step-daughter called. I thought she was kidding. Right up to the Pentagon. That pissed me off. Then I called all the moms I knew to make sure all their families were okay.
One more thing about *sheople (can I get permission to change the spelling?or not...) I'm a *sheople from way-back. theSeed was my *shoeple training; I was a real quick study back then. baabaabaa I've even been known to say: "Just point me and push!". baabaabaa Point is, it never dawned on me anyone would ever attack theUnitedStatesofAmerica... and on our own soil?? yeahsureright the date was an accident too, right?
...AND BTW... Happy Birthday, Deb :wink:
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Che Gookin on September 12, 2007, 04:33:25 AM
At Camp E-kel-etu with my group the Chawkebans.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: try another castle on September 12, 2007, 04:54:23 AM
I was going through one of my many depressions, and was unemployed and on disability. (still am, but hopefully not for long.)
I slept for about 14 hours, then woke up in the afternoon, and went down the block to the local soda fountain (yes, you heard me) to get myself a club sandwich. When I got there, the staff were standing around talking about it. I asked what happened. They said someone flew planes into the world trade center... then they said the buildings were completely gone... imploded into the ground.
As someone who used to live in New York, I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea of there no longer being a world trade center. I ran home and turned on the TV and watched the repetition that accounts for the news these days.
To this day, I still have not seen the footage of people jumping out of the buildings. By the time I tuned in, that stuff had been pulled off the air.
Essentially, I slept through the whole thing. Sad.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Froderik on September 12, 2007, 08:43:46 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""Froderik""
I suspect people will have more to say about the political background of this tragic event...perhaps this thread should be moved to Tacitus' Realm.
yes but moving it would then imply that this discussion is about the politics of it, rather then just having it be an open discussion about the day/event, which was probably the posters intention. just my .039894 cents.
Yeah that thought occurred... It was the paragraph that included "religious fundamentalism" and "war and death and destruction" plus my response to it that caused me to consider the suggestion...but I think it's fine here after all.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: BuzzKill on September 12, 2007, 11:42:50 AM
///To this day, I still have not seen the footage of people jumping out of the buildings. By the time I tuned in, that stuff had been pulled off the air. ///
The history channel has a documentary on that day that shows this footage. It still chokes me up when I see it. It was at that point, on that day, I broke down and cried.
Just remembered this:
On this subject - I ran across this bit of 9-11 tape [a while back] I thought I'd share it with any of you who feel up to watching it. I consider it a tribute to the man; and indeed all those who have died at the hands of those who seek our destruction. We should not forget just what a terrible thing we are dealing with.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on September 12, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
::noway::
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Antigen on September 12, 2007, 05:09:21 PM
I was scrambling for grocery money, looking around the house for items with money back guarantee and saved receipts. Found something good for $35. Somewhere in the middle of that rather pressing business, my then 8yo daughter caught onto the news. We didn't really have time for that bullshit. Ambrose Bierce came to mind; "War is God's way of teaching geography to Americans. My main thought before leaving the house was "well, I guess it finally happened, maybe now people will pay some damned attention to international policy." After finding the streets empty like I hadn't seen since Christmas sometime in the early `70s and the few people who were outside or at work in a state of total shock and awe, I though "Nah, probably not." and went back home to cook some cheap assed food for dinner.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2007, 06:15:29 PM
I'm thinking not so much about where I was that day, but about what went on yesterday, on the 6th anniversary. It was pretty much another Tuesday unless you turned on the TV.
I pretty much forgot 9/11 was coming up until last weekend. When I woke up yesterday, I thought about putting up my flag, but I couldn't find the damn flag in my messy garage. As I got in the car to go to work, I noticed none of my neighbors had flags flying either, so I felt better about not being the only one who didn't exactly remember or commemorate the day.
Then I read something on a news site about how we Americans seem to have forgotten this event, and how the signs around the Freedom Tower construction site talk about all the square footage of office space that will be created, 'cause after all, it's all about the real estate. And about how we so completely cleaned up and sanitized the site that if you didn't know better, you'd swear that nothing had ever happened, that nothing had ever been there before.
And somewhere on the chain-link fence that surrounds the site is a sign with the names of all the victims, in tiny print that you can hardly read.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Oz girl on September 13, 2007, 05:57:33 AM
I was getting ready to go to bed. All of my friends thought it was some elaborate war of the worlds style prank. I can not imagine any job worse than being the 911 lady who had to try and calm those people in their final moments.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Antigen on September 13, 2007, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: ""Oz girl""
All of my friends thought it was some elaborate war of the worlds style prank.
They were right, too.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2007, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Quote from: ""Oz girl""
All of my friends thought it was some elaborate war of the worlds style prank.
They were right, too.
They were right about it being some kind of war of the worlds style prank? Please do tell what you mean exactly by this statement. Do you think that the planes were being flown by Americans under the control of the government to create some kind of diversion? Or maybe there were no planes at all and all the people in NYC that actually SAW what was happening were just paid actors doing their job and all that film footage that was broadcast all over the world was just some really good cut and paste job. Maybe there were bombs in those buildings placed there by the members of congress to upset and confuse us so we would no longer question our president.
Pleeeeease!
I lost a very good friend that day that happened to be on one of those planes. I have heard with my own ears one of the tapes that has not been released to the public so when you say this was some kind of prank, you insult all the lives that were lost that day.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2007, 11:13:54 PM
If the govt. had anything to do with it they would of taken advantage of it better. They would of not waited a couple months to attack afghanistan and wouldn't have waited two years to attack Iraq. If the US govt. new about 9.11 and cynically wanted to take advantage of it for foreign policy reasons they sure did a horrible job. They could of attacked all the countries they wanted, basically done whatever they want the month after 9.11 instead they waited six years before contemplating taking on Iran.. some conspiracy. :roll:
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2007, 01:02:51 AM
I personally don't think the government had anything to do with 9/11, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have good reason to keep Osama alive, whether he is actually still breathing or not. He is much more valuable alive and on the loose, as a rallying cry for the so-called War on Terror, than he could ever be as a captive or a corpse.
Yeah, he supposedly released some video last week, but how do we know who made it and whether it's really current sound & images of him, or some digitally doctored old footage? We all know how easy it is to completely fabricate video these days and put anything or anyone you want together in what looks like the same space & time, and make it look totally real.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: ajax13 on September 14, 2007, 02:37:08 AM
Guest you are quite obviously retarded, so I commend you for typing anything remotely coherent . It took from August 1990 until February 1991 to get enough force together to kick the shit out of the Great Romance Writer the first time. For the Warpigs to roll through Afghanistan by Christmas in 2001 was at least as impressive as the Russian invasion in '79. They didn't wait six years to contemplate taking on Iran, there have been Special Forces operating in Iran for at least three years and a bombing plan has been fermenting for just as long. A determination to invade Iraq using the Sept. 2001 attacks as a pretext was made by the current gangsters in Washington within days. It's not a conspiracy, it's called history. Get someone to read it to you.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2007, 02:40:43 AM
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Che Gookin on September 14, 2007, 07:20:26 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Deborah on September 14, 2007, 08:16:06 AM
Hmmm. He should be more discrete with his desparate need/attempt to gain acceptance from the white boys. It's pathetically obvious... remember the kid that went around kissin ass and humoring the in crowd to gain favor. Always felt bad/embarrassed for those ones.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: webdiva on September 14, 2007, 11:43:53 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Yeah that thought occurred... It was the paragraph that included "religious fundamentalism" and "war and death and destruction" plus my response to it that caused me to consider the suggestion...but I think it's fine here after all.
well ok then! glad you've come around! LOL ;)
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2007, 11:58:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
If the govt. had anything to do with it they would of taken advantage of it better. They would of not waited a couple months to attack afghanistan and wouldn't have waited two years to attack Iraq. If the US govt. new about 9.11 and cynically wanted to take advantage of it for foreign policy reasons they sure did a horrible job. They could of attacked all the countries they wanted, basically done whatever they want the month after 9.11 instead they waited six years before contemplating taking on Iran.. some conspiracy. :roll:
iran? they've been contemplating iran since 2004, 3 years after 9/11 is when we invaded iraq. after the media blatantly and successfully turned the focus from osama to saddam so that could be yet another lame excuse to attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 except the fact that they were in the middle east. hell our govt. loves the bin-laden's don't ya know?
i dont think it was an inside job but i think we knew ahead of time, that's been as close to proven as you can get w./ a govt that has been able to hide most of the henious shit it does. it would benefit them greatly to play dumb when it came to 9/11. Of course iran and iraq really have nothing to do with it but the american public is stupid enough to believe anything and bought the bs as usual.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Froderik on September 15, 2007, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
The US has a long history of dealing with Saudi Arabia. The CIA ended up supplying arms to Muslim fanatics in an attempt to thwart communism. (Your enemy's enemy is your friend kind of thing.) I don't think we "saw it coming" or anything like that, but the CIA inadvertently made 9/11 possible...
...because the White house looked on the Muslim Brotherhood as a silent ally, a secret weapon against communism. The press kept calling the attackers al Qaeda, thanks to Osama's relentless publicity machine, but it was the Muslim Brothers through and through -- the same crew we used to do our dirty work in Yemen, Afghanistan, and lots of other places.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2007, 04:25:24 AM
BILL MAHER NEW RULE *9/11 TRUTHERS SHOULD BE MEDICATED*
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: RTP2003 on September 16, 2007, 07:18:25 PM
I was driving to my dealer's house to score pills when the first tower fell. I was shooting up and watching CNN when the second one came down.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: ajax13 on September 17, 2007, 10:12:10 AM
Bill Maher is a vocal zionist and fan of Bill Clinton. This is Bill Clinton who blew up a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan chasing Bin Laden. This is the same Bill Clinton who attacked Yugoslavia to take out the traditional Russian ally, Serbia, at the same time protecting an international heroin trafficking group, the KLA. This Bill Clinton also carried on the weekly bombing of Iraq started in 1991 by Bush Sr. Bin Laden does not have a relentless publicity machine, and does not even refer to his group as al Qaeda. al Qaeda is a term that refers to a database. It has been appropriated by the Western media to sell the War on Terror. Osama was still employed as a CIA asset throughout the Bosnian War, pipelining arms into Bosnia to aid the Muslims fighting to destroy Yugoslavia. MPRI and who knows who else armed and trained the Croatians to do the same. Bin Laden was also a conduit for money and arms into Chechnya, destabilizing the oil-producing Caucasus region. The US has been using Islamic fundamentalists since at least the days of the overthrow of Sukharno in Indonesia, where an alliance was formed between Facsist military and fundamentalist Muslim students. The Western intelligence agencies in fact still have their hands all over Jamaal Islamaya, the South-east Asian terror group who came up with operation Bojinka, the original plan to hijack airliners and use them as cruise missiles. Same applies in Spain, where the Madrid bombers were linked to a paid informant of Spanish intelligence. You have to wake up folks. Britain has been using agents to foment terror in Ireland for over one hundred years, and the dipshit Canadians were just busted using agents provocateurs at the Montebello summit.
Title: where were you on 9/11??
Post by: Rachael on October 23, 2011, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
BILL MAHER NEW RULE *9/11 TRUTHERS SHOULD BE MEDICATED*
Every now and then I am reminded of how vastly different Canada and the US really are. Despite our proximity and many cultural overlaps, there are some things on which we are worlds apart. This would be one of those issues.
The insensitivity of that video shocked me. It wasn't so much the 9/11 stuff, but the whole breastfeeding rant. So, here's mine:
In Canada, no one would ever contemplate telling a woman not to feed her hungry baby, or that it's "too intimate" to be allowed in public. To say mothers who breastfeed in public are just too lazy to plan ahead is appaling. I can't imagine anyone in Canada saying something like that and getting away with it. Babies need food, and often. Breastfeeding is far healthier for mother and baby, and if at all possible should be continued exclusively for the first six months. Some mothers can express, some can't and many breastfed babies are not interested in taking a bottle anyway. In many, many cases it is not possible to "plan ahead". Should mothers then be expected to stay at home until their 6-month old is starting on other foods?
This does just fit in with a clear cultural issue of lack of support and respect for mothers and children. No, you don't deserve a prize for "doing something a dog can do", but raising children well is one of the most important roles a person can have. Whether we're talking about forcing mothers to go back to work 6 weeks after their babies are born (here there is a government funded parental leave of up to 50 weeks at 55% minimum of your original salary, which can be split between both parents as they see fit, or even taken at the same time), or about hiring on any misanthropic, bitter, teenager-hating English major to teach high school students, there is something terribly wrong when we simply don't care enough about our children to make sure we give them the best possible start.