Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Che Gookin on September 07, 2007, 01:13:14 AM
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Right then.. Here I was sitting at a pc at this cyber cafe booking a room in my next destination. I'm drinking a cold coke and pondering what to do with the rest of the day when someone private messages me on my yahoo account.
This person says, "Dan I got some great information, but you have to promise never to tell another person about it."
I say, "ummm ok."
Person sends me email....
I read email....
I shit my pants...
I clean my pants...
Now I'm stuck.. obviously this person has something in mind, but god damn.. this information is so frucking hot off the press it is leaving my brain spinning in circles.
this is a hard confirmation of a collusion between two parties to send a kid to a program for a "small" fee.
So damn.. you know I fricking wish the person hadn't said anything, because now I'm stuck keeping a secret.
So what do you all think?
Break my promise and tell all?
Keep my mouth shut?
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hummm keep your mouth shut when typing and spill the beans ::seg::
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Update the poll?
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Looks like ya got a quite a dilemma tsw.
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It is TheWho.
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It is TheWho.
GOD DAMN!!!!!
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I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you!
:rofl:
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What? :question:
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You are bound to keep your mouth shut. There is money and reputations at stake. Think about what is more important!!
When I sent...errr when you received that email it was implied that it would be kept secret and in confidence.
you are bound by your own conscience.... I persoanlly think you are an ass for bringing this up on a public forum, there may be no turning back.
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What the hell is going on here???? :rofl:
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You are bound to keep your mouth shut. There is money and reputations at stake. Think about what is more important!!
When I sent...errr when you received that email it was implied that it would be kept secret and in confidence.
you are bound by your own conscience.... I persoanlly think you are an ass for bringing this up on a public forum, there may be no turning back.
Well. It depends on his policy. For example, I consider it OK to publicize emails if they are from or to industry members (and even to lie to obtain information from the industry). Essentially, i'm advocating investigative "under-cover" journalism.
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Your word is your word.
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You are bound to keep your mouth shut. There is money and reputations at stake. Think about what is more important!!
When I sent...errr when you received that email it was implied that it would be kept secret and in confidence.
you are bound by your own conscience.... I persoanlly think you are an ass for bringing this up on a public forum, there may be no turning back.
Really sucks to have personal, private information used against you doesn't it?
Yeah. It sucks even harder for the kids. Happens to them on a daily basis in Who's special brand of, ahem, "treatment".
:roll:
And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.
:rofl:
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Your word is your word.
Under most circumstances, but consider that at least in my program, there were a great many things that were part of the "code of silence". If I break that, in order to help another, is it it wrong?
If he gave his word to TheWho, yes, you're probably right, but even then, as in the above example, there are always times... It depends. I have very little, if any compassion for people who participate, however indirectly, in this cancerous industry.
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And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.
TSW may be many things, but I think we can all agree he speaks his mind and follows what he thinks is right, even if it makes him look bad. He is one of the few people who I know has worked as staff and now advocates against most programs and therefore thought his opinion would be impartial or at least neutral and honest and that is why someone turned to him with this. But it just burns my butt to no end to see him make a public poll out of this in place of relying on his own conscience.
Remember, TSW, Umbra (http://http://umbra-agency.com/korean.aspx) is an American based Company.
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And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.
TSW may be many things, but I think we can all agree he speaks his mind and follows what he thinks is right, even if it makes him look bad. He is one of the few people who I know has worked as staff and now advocates against most programs and therefore thought his opinion would be impartial or at least neutral and honest and that is why someone turned to him with this. But it just burns my butt to no end to see him make a public poll out of this in place of relying on his own conscience.
Remember, TSW, Umbra (http://http://umbra-agency.com/korean.aspx) is an American based Company.
Well. Knowing TSW, he is probably just playing with you and would never post the information.
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And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.
TSW may be many things, but I think we can all agree he speaks his mind and follows what he thinks is right, even if it makes him look bad. He is one of the few people who I know has worked as staff and now advocates against most programs and therefore thought his opinion would be impartial or at least neutral and honest and that is why someone turned to him with this. But it just burns my butt to no end to see him make a public poll out of this in place of relying on his own conscience.
Remember, TSW, Umbra (http://http://umbra-agency.com/korean.aspx) is an American based Company.
I wasn't saying anything about his integrity, or what he should or shouldn't do. Just that you should know that he'd at least have to bust your balls about it.
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?
80% say "spill the beans"
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Your word is your word.
Under most circumstances, but consider that at least in my program, there were a great many things that were part of the "code of silence". If I break that, in order to help another, is it it wrong?
If he gave his word to TheWho, yes, you're probably right, but even then, as in the above example, there are always times... It depends. I have very little, if any compassion for people who participate, however indirectly, in this cancerous industry.
I have no compassion for anyone but the victims. I have a great curiosity about the individual who lives any part of 'that life'. Aren't you 'supporting' them by observing the 'code'? And the fact is your word is your word -- or it isn't.
I don't think this will cost anyone sleep, but it will make me a little less-trusting of you ::mecry::
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?
80% say "spill the beans"
I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut. "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans. I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.
TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision. I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you. If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.
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You are bound to keep your mouth shut.
When I sent...errr when you received that email it was implied that it would be kept secret and in confidence.
you are bound by your own conscience.... I persoanlly think you are an ass for bringing this up on a public forum, there may be no turning back.
For God's sake!! Won't anyone think of the reputations and the money?
:roll:
::fu:: ::kma::
btw. No text in Who's quote was altered. I simply added the size and color for emphasis.
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::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
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I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut. "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans. I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.
TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision. I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you. If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.
That's some funny stuff right there.
:rofl: :rofl:
I love it when the shoe's on the other foot. You program shills are such pussies. You'd never last a week in the shitpits you push.
::both:: ::roflmao::
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?
80% say "spill the beans"
I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut. "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans. I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.
TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision. I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you. If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.
True, the poll question and options weren't clear. But, clearly this involves you. You're here and claim to have integrity, so set the record straight, spill the beans yourself. Do you profit from placements into Teen BM Warehouses?
It's not like this would be devastating news? Most already suspect it.
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TheWho sure knows how to rile up a crowd.
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Here's an outrageous suggestion: "reputation and money," eh? RD decides to branch out, given that clientele seem to have dropped off, and makes a referral under Sue's tutelage!
:rofl: :rofl:
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TheWho sure knows how to rile up a crowd.
I believe the credit goes to Waygookin for that. He began this thread. It's not like we didn't already know, it's just being proven out now.
:D
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If TheWho is an ed-con, why would anyone sit on this information? They wouldn't.
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If TheWho is an ed-con, why would anyone sit on this information? They wouldn't.
I am not an ed-con. This is a personal matter that just got out of hand. Sometimes you put your trust in someone without weighing the consequences if that trust happens to be compromised.
TSW, by now, has been given some options which he is undoubtedly thinking over. I have 2 things to say to him to assist him in his thoughts:
Mal han matie chonnyang pito kapnunda.
Nat marun saeka tuko pam marun chuika tutnunda.
Take your time and think it over.
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:rofl: :roll: :rofl:
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If TheWho is an ed-con, why would anyone sit on this information? They wouldn't.
I am not an ed-con. This is a personal matter that just got out of hand. Sometimes you put your trust in someone without weighing the consequences if that trust happens to be compromised.
TSW, by now, has been given some options which he is undoubtedly thinking over. I have 2 things to say to him to assist him in his thoughts:
Mal han matie chonnyang pito kapnunda.
Nat marun saeka tuko pam marun chuika tutnunda.
Take your time and think it over.
Damn, you're really sweating this, huh?
:rofl: How's it feel?
::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
A big debt is repayed with only a few words.
Birds can hear the talk in the daytime, rats can hear the talk
at night.
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Oh for the love of god! Cant everyone just ignore the who? Please? The man loves this sort of petty intrigue. once again a who thread has gone on for 4 pages. It is like watching a child have a tantrum and then rewarding them with a lolly
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Aw now c'mon. This part is hilarious.
But I get your point.
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Mal han matie chonnyang pito kapnunda.
Nat marun saeka tuko pam marun chuika tutnunda.
In Umbra we trust? :wink:
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Morunun ke yakida.
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Your word is your word.
Under most circumstances, but consider that at least in my program, there were a great many things that were part of the "code of silence". If I break that, in order to help another, is it it wrong?
If he gave his word to TheWho, yes, you're probably right, but even then, as in the above example, there are always times... It depends. I have very little, if any compassion for people who participate, however indirectly, in this cancerous industry.
I have no compassion for anyone but the victims. I have a great curiosity about the individual who lives any part of 'that life'. Aren't you 'supporting' them by observing the 'code'? And the fact is your word is your word -- or it isn't.
I don't think this will cost anyone sleep, but it will make me a little less-trusting of you ::mecry::
Well. The way I see it is this: Fornits is a place where the little Fornits run around and shine light on things that the industry doesn't want anybody to know about.
My policy with private communications in normal circumstances is this (it's time I wrote this down, since this policy is scattered in a hundred places on this forum):
Anything with survivors (except those who become industry members): No publication without permission. All correspondence considered privileged by default. If confidence is explicitly stated, communication will not even be shared with "privileged" parties such as close friends who might give advice on the situation. In most cases, when I share information with friends, I redact identifying information.
Anything with survivors who are became industry members: Same as above unless great danger could be prevented with the release of the information, and in which case it will likely be done with redacted names..
Why the compassion, some wonder? Because Everybody has a heart. Plus -- from a strategic perspective... If survivors wake up, while still insiders.. I'd like to see that happen.
Anything with parents who are not industry members: Same as rules for survivors.
Anything with parents who are industry members: same as survivors who are industry members.
Industry members, Ed cons (including you, Sue Scheff, and you too Lon!): State of relationship is war. Words will be used as weapons. Dirty fighting allowed. Why? In my opinion, they know what they are doing hurts kids yet continue to do it because it makes them money. They
I really try to keep to these general set of rules. In program I learned to forget my own ethics, i did things that weren't me. Now I am "restoring the backup" rules; Trying to find who I was before program, and re-writing some basic ethical structures as I go (to relate to what I feel is right (which is usually based on "how would i like to be treated") ).
Well. That's my "code of personal email ethics". I've posted these general policies back before.
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The who or anything involving the who has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
To The Who:
Well done sir, very well done. :rofl:
My decision will be forthcoming shortly. Busy dealing with other crap.
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Your word is your word.
Word mofo.. without your word don't got shit.
You make a promise to keep something secret you have to keep it secret. No if ands or buts about it.
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The who or anything involving the who has absolutely nothing to do with any of this....
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Thank you, TSW, for not tying me into that entire mess. I owe you one, sir, sorry for the threats, just panicked when I couldn’t get a response.
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psy wrote:
In my opinion, they know what they are doing hurts kids yet continue to do it because it makes them money
Psy, I really haven’t paid close attention to the whole Sue S thing. I have skimmed thru the many articles and web sites that have been posted here about her. I know there is a major rift between fornits yourself and her and I mainly thought it was because you felt she betrayed the industry or misrepresented herself by acknowledging that WWASPS was probably not the best place for kids to attend but continued to refer kids to other programs (did I get that right?).
But do you really feel she thinks she is hurting kids when she refers them to programs? And only does it for the money? I ask this because I find it hard to believe this. There are very few people who are capable of purposefully hurting kids for the pure joy of it or for profit. There is a special name for these people and there are very few of them in comparison with the rest of the population. I would think that she feels she is doing a good deed and helping families to solve their issues. (whether she is right or wrong in her thinking there is a distinct difference in how her motive should be perceived by others.)
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:rofl: :rofl:
If you weren't such a programmie sell out I think I could actually like you.
LOLS.
hahahahahah lord.. this is to good.
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psy wrote: In my opinion, they know what they are doing hurts kids yet continue to do it because it makes them money
Psy, I really haven’t paid close attention to the whole Sue S thing. I have skimmed thru the many articles and web sites that have been posted here about her. I know there is a major rift between fornits yourself and her and I mainly thought it was because you felt she betrayed the industry or misrepresented herself by acknowledging that WWASPS was probably not the best place for kids to attend but continued to refer kids to other programs (did I get that right?).
But do you really feel she thinks she is hurting kids when she refers them to programs? And only does it for the money? I ask this because I find it hard to believe this. There are very few people who are capable of purposefully hurting kids for the pure joy of it or for profit. There is a special name for these people and there are very few of them in comparison with the rest of the population. I would think that she feels she is doing a good deed and helping families to solve their issues. (whether she is right or wrong in her thinking there is a distinct difference in how her motive should be perceived by others.)
Nah, she's no better than the rest of them. Sue loves the spotlight. She loves being the one that everyone turns to in time of crisis. She thrives on it and when someone threatens that, she flips out. Hence her multiple personalities here when people started to figure out what she was up to.
I think for Sue, the money is just icing on the cake. It's nice and all, but she's really in it for the ego boost.
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The who or anything involving the who has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
To The Who:
Well done sir, very well done. :rofl:
My decision will be forthcoming shortly. Busy dealing with other crap.
I am interested in how this all turns out for you. I know you will make the right decision, the reason you were emailed vs others is because you have experience and your opinion is valued over others. If I can help in any way, let me know.
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What the hell is going on here???? :rofl:
Umm... Yeah I'm lost
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Thanks I got it covered. Unless you know who the man on the grassy mound was?
I'm also guessing they choose to contact me due to my discretion. That is something that in certain circles is far to lacking of late.
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Mal han matie chonnyang pito kapnunda.
Nat marun saeka tuko pam marun chuika tutnunda.
Take your time and think it over.
A big debt is repayed with only a few words.
Birds can hear the talk in the daytime, rats can hear the talk
at night.
Wtf, is this the translation? Korean, I'm guessing?
Gotta love them internet translator thingies, eh?
Fuck it, just spill the fucking beans already.
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I have no idea what's going on. I'm not 'in the loop'. And yeah, I looked up what it was because I wanted to see what it said.
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I don't understand. What is going on here?
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Me spilling the beans never was going to happen. I was more curious what other people had to say in a similiar situation.
I promised I'd shut my yap and I will do just that. I might not be the best person at keeping my yap shut, but I'm damn sure I won't spill the beans in this situation.
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Thanks I got it covered. Unless you know who the man on the grassy mound was?
I'm also guessing they choose to contact me due to my discretion. That is something that in certain circles is far to lacking of late.
Yes, they choose to contact you because you have shown an incredible resistance to censorship and will speak the truth whether it benefits you personally or not and defend it to a fault and you have an uncanny understanding of the reason for discretion in many circumstances, where others don’t. Stick by your word, but dont let them censor you.
Remember, “Censorship always defeats it own purpose, for it creates in the end the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion.â€
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Fornits is gay.
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I have no idea what's going on. I'm not 'in the loop'. And yeah, I looked up what it was because I wanted to see what it said.
You thought my "spill the beans" comment was directed at you? No.
(Again not directed at you, Anne) Wtf is up with this stupid bullshit? What a waste of fucking time. I want my 20 minutes back, you motherfuckers.
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Fornits is gay.
Well this thread sure as fucking hell is. :rofl:
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psy wrote: In my opinion, they know what they are doing hurts kids yet continue to do it because it makes them money
Psy, I really haven’t paid close attention to the whole Sue S thing. I have skimmed thru the many articles and web sites that have been posted here about her. I know there is a major rift between fornits yourself and her and I mainly thought it was because you felt she betrayed the industry or misrepresented herself by acknowledging that WWASPS was probably not the best place for kids to attend but continued to refer kids to other programs (did I get that right?).
But do you really feel she thinks she is hurting kids when she refers them to programs? And only does it for the money? I ask this because I find it hard to believe this. There are very few people who are capable of purposefully hurting kids for the pure joy of it or for profit. There is a special name for these people and there are very few of them in comparison with the rest of the population.
Well. It's my opinion that Sue Scheff is a sociopath. Total and complete sociopath. No conscience at all.
I would think that she feels she is doing a good deed and helping families to solve their issues. (whether she is right or wrong in her thinking there is a distinct difference in how her motive should be perceived by others.)
Hey. I helped you out by bothering to look up your posts, and you didn't jerk me around... So could you do me a favor, read the following article (which is a concise view of Sue's history) and tell me what you think:
http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12 (http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12)
Oh. and BTW, I still want that t-shirt. I gave you a way out, but shit if i'm going to screw up a good opportunity to mock an industry member.
List of Oh-so-funny demands
Make it black with text that says... "i *heart* fornits.com" (along with a mushy new experimental Fornits mascot that must meet ginger's (eventual) approval). On the back, I'm thinking ... "ask me about fornits.com"... and you have to wear it all day (or at least you'd be a good sport if you did) ... know what? i'll just send you an email you can forward to the printer people with the graphics and instructions... I'll pay for a copy of what I'm about to give you on a t-shirt, along with one extra for a friend. Shit... Why don't we start a discussion on the web forum hosting thread about selling Fornits T-shirts. We'll buy from you in bulk, until and if we find a cheaper supplier, and then sell the t-shirts in the online store. I'll alert Ginger to this idea and see if she's interested. The Mozilla project merchandizes to help.
Actually. I'll send you two versions: one you are going to wear (and you promised a photo), and one that we could potentially sell and make a profit collectively.
Will work on that tonight.
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T-shirt idea might backfire, you'll get all his bored do-nothing yuppie friends posting all day long too. Soon fornits will be totally compromised of stay at home moms and retired program dads.
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I have no idea what's going on. I'm not 'in the loop'. And yeah, I looked up what it was because I wanted to see what it said.
You thought my "spill the beans" comment was directed at you? No.
(Again not directed at you, Anne) Wtf is up with this stupid bullshit? What a waste of fucking time. I want my 20 minutes back, you motherfuckers.
When you quote my post and reply to it I tend to think you're talking to me.
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Program dads never really retire. They merely find other people to spout their shit at once their kids file restraining orders against them.
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?
80% say "spill the beans"
I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut. "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans. I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.
TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision. I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you. If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.
I WANT TO BELIEVE
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psy wrote: In my opinion, they know what they are doing hurts kids yet continue to do it because it makes them money
Psy, I really haven’t paid close attention to the whole Sue S thing. I have skimmed thru the many articles and web sites that have been posted here about her. I know there is a major rift between fornits yourself and her and I mainly thought it was because you felt she betrayed the industry or misrepresented herself by acknowledging that WWASPS was probably not the best place for kids to attend but continued to refer kids to other programs (did I get that right?).
But do you really feel she thinks she is hurting kids when she refers them to programs? And only does it for the money? I ask this because I find it hard to believe this. There are very few people who are capable of purposefully hurting kids for the pure joy of it or for profit. There is a special name for these people and there are very few of them in comparison with the rest of the population.
Well. It's my opinion that Sue Scheff is a sociopath. Total and complete sociopath. No conscience at all.
I would think that she feels she is doing a good deed and helping families to solve their issues. (whether she is right or wrong in her thinking there is a distinct difference in how her motive should be perceived by others.)
Hey. I helped you out by bothering to look up your posts, and you didn't jerk me around... So could you do me a favor, read the following article (which is a concise view of Sue's history) and tell me what you think:
http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12 (http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12)
Oh. and BTW, I still want that t-shirt. I gave you a way out, but shit if i'm going to screw up a good opportunity to mock an industry member.
List of Oh-so-funny demands
Make it black with text that says... "i *heart* fornits.com" (along with a mushy new experimental Fornits mascot that must meet ginger's (eventual) approval). On the back, I'm thinking ... "ask me about fornits.com"... and you have to wear it all day (or at least you'd be a good sport if you did) ... know what? i'll just send you an email you can forward to the printer people with the graphics and instructions... I'll pay for a copy of what I'm about to give you on a t-shirt, along with one extra for a friend. Shit... Why don't we start a discussion on the web forum hosting thread about selling Fornits T-shirts. We'll buy from you in bulk, until and if we find a cheaper supplier, and then sell the t-shirts in the online store. I'll alert Ginger to this idea and see if she's interested. The Mozilla project merchandizes to help.
Actually. I'll send you two versions: one you are going to wear (and you promised a photo), and one that we could potentially sell and make a profit collectively.
Will work on that tonight.
deal.... although, I am leaning towards sweatshirts, with fall coming up. I'm done for tonight. I'll read sues history and let you know what I think.
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TheWho plays fornits like a violin. :rofl:
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When you quote my post and reply to it I tend to think you're talking to me.
I understand that, that's why I clarified..
I've had a few drinks, btw...
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When you quote my post and reply to it I tend to think you're talking to me.
I understand that, that's why I clarified..
I've had a few drinks, btw...
care to share? I'm parched. :rofl:
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When you quote my post and reply to it I tend to think you're talking to me.
I understand that, that's why I clarified..
I've had a few drinks, btw...
Well shit, I just offered you some ganja on the PV thread.
:rofl:
Here's to ya.
::cheers::
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When you quote my post and reply to it I tend to think you're talking to me.
I understand that, that's why I clarified..
I've had a few drinks, btw...
Well shit, I just offered you some ganja on the PV thread.
:rofl:
Here's to ya.
::cheers::
you didn't offer me any. damn white people!
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Are you calling me a racist? :flame:
:rofl:
***inhales deeply...... 'ere, take it.
:smokin:
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Oh for the love of god! Cant everyone just ignore the who? Please? The man loves this sort of petty intrigue. once again a who thread has gone on for 4 pages. It is like watching a child have a tantrum and then rewarding them with a lolly
True. But if no one interacts with him, he doesn't go away, he talks to himself.
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Are you calling me a racist? :flame:
:rofl:
***inhales deeply...... 'ere, take it.
:smokin:
No not all all. I hear you have a really nice ass, which proves you aren't white, therefore you couldn't possible be racist.
Now pardon me while I smoke the rest of this and get back to observing the "man". :smokin:
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No not all all. I hear you have a really nice ass, which proves you aren't white, therefore you couldn't possible be racist.
Now pardon me while I smoke the rest of this and get back to observing the "man". :smokin:
Aww shucks. :oops: :)
Those "kiss my ass" pics haven't been mine. Maybe I'll get up the nerve someday to use my own.
8-) :smokin:
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Now I've seen it all: flirting online!! ::kiss::
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Oh pleeeze.
:)
Harmless fun :rofl:
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I still wanta know if Tsw is going to figure a way to tell who (no pun intended), the email business is about.
3 seedling if flirting is the everything you have seen online you obviously are new to Fornits. Welcome. :rofl:
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Let me make it clear:
When I give my word that I will keep a secret I do my best to keep that secret. Now I'm as human as the next person and I don't have a perfect track record, but in this case I'm not looking break my agreement with the person who sought me out trying to better understand the information in their possession.
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Then why all the fanfare?
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Sort of curious how other people felt about this subject. I already made my mind up before.
Seems to me there has been more than a few breaches of trust here and there and to me they are nothing more than counterproductive.
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Just admit it, you are an attention whore.
It is nothing to be ashamed of.
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yeah, okay... I'm a 'new-kid'!! I wasn't complaining/objecting. It made me laugh. Thought it was cute. I may be older, but I'm not dead :wink:
Actuallly, I thought the issue was about keeping your word, even if you're verbally lured into giving it.
Does one deciet justify another?
I got my answers: Psy has rules. My 'trust' issues are gone.
I don't see any evidence of 'rules' in theWho's posts.
...not true. He used someone elses rules for his gain.
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WTF ::T::
where'd everybody go?!
did I miss the 'bottom line'?
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Is there such a thing as a Bad Goddamn?
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I sure don't... just being honest.
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I sure don't... just being honest.
Your Mother Should Know.
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What's your point?
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I buried Paul... I mean... cranberry sauce.
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.. you met her? is she nice?... does she have a graceful face? this is how I imagined it all this time.