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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Deborah on May 31, 2003, 11:30:00 PM
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http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/5956508.htm (http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/5956508.htm)
Posted on Wed, May. 28, 2003
State probing Bethel Boys Academy
13 children were removed last week; no charges filed
By KAREN NELSON
THE SUN HERALD
LUCEDALE - Three state agencies are conducting a combined investigation of the church-based Bethel Boys Academy, the offshoot of an institution that has been the focus of similar investigations and allegations of abuse in the past.
Thirteen boys were removed from the home late last week and given a place to stay by the state's Department of Human Services. The state Health Department, which regulates residential homes, and the state Attorney General's Office are also investigating.
By Tuesday, no charges had been filed against the home. And home officials said they were awaiting an explanation for the removal of the boys before they comment.
The Bethel Boys Academy is sponsored by the Bethel Baptist Church of Lucedale. It takes at-risk adolescents from around the country into a military-style, disciplined environment.
According to the DHS, the boys removed last week were found to be abused or neglected. A spokesman for the agency said its priority is the welfare of the children, not whether the academy should be allowed to stay open.
The Attorney General's Office started the investigation based on a complaint by the parents of one child, said Nancy East, a spokeswman for the office. The state Health Department became involved because the academy is required to register with it as a residential home and must meet certain requirements.
The home is run by John Fountain, the son of Herman Fountain, who ran Bethel Children's Home. That home, founded in 1978 and predecessor to the academy, had similar investigations and children removed through the years. In the fall, the academy was investigated on allegations of child abuse and neglect but after interviews with dozens of children, no children were removed from the home and no charges were filed.
The academy must comply with the state Child Residential Home Notification Act, passed in response to problems at the Bethel Children's Home in the late 1980s. The act requires operators of homes for children to give health officials the names of the children, their parents and the home's staff members.
The Attorney General's Office can ask a Youth Court or Chancery Court judge to close the home or remove children if it fails to comply with the act or meet state Health Department inspections.
Children are usually placed at the academy by their parents and tuition for the 12-month program is based on their ability to pay. The military-style program calls its counselors drill sergeants and each dorm floor a platoon, but also uses biblical scripture and a religious program. Currently, without the 13 recently removed, the academy has 104 children enrolled with a staff of about 20.
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Home's record of problems
1988: State welfare officials with the help of police took custody of 72 children found to have been abused or neglected, prompting a new state law regulating residential homes for children. The law went into effect the next year.
1989: Two children were placed in the custody of the state by order of a Youth Court judge. An employee of the home was charged with assault on a police officer and resisting arrest during the initial raid and was later convicted.
1990: A Chancery Court judge ordered 13 more children removed from the home; the same judge closed the home based on non-compliance with the new law. Then a federal judge permanently enjoined the home from violating federal child labor laws.
1994: The home reopened as Bethel Boys Academy.
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Karen Nelson can be reached at 769-5480 or at klnelson@sunherald.com
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http://amazingforums.com/forum/BS4/176.html (http://amazingforums.com/forum/BS4/176.html)
Peggy posted 11/16/03 2:36 AM
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I was a student at Bethel Girls Academy in 1987, it was run by Herman Fountain then, and now run by his son John (under the same guidlines of belief)I noticed in their website they say the punish "with love" what a crock!...there was no love in what went on down there, we were called whores, niggers, and abused everyday!We were even forced to pick beans and beeries in the fields to help line the pockets of the owners. Today they charge about $25,000. per yr. to house your kid and abuse them! I am 33 yrs. old with a family of my own including 4 children, therefore I have no reason to make this up...what would I be benifiting, from telling my story? They are not accredited therefore your schooling means nothing, most had to get GED's after leaving. They deprive your children of sleep, water, bathroom breaks and humiliate them on a daily basis! They take the Bible out of context and bend it to say what they want it to, and force you to believe as they do...if you dissagree you are beaten into submission! Beating with freshly picked switches, the kind that wrap around your body leaving bloody welts for weeks on end...I am not talking about just getting spanked, this was far beyond that and for reasons such as not finishing all of your food, or leaving a light on, or looking at another girl, or talking before you are spoken to...does that sound like normal discipline to you?? I could say so much more but won't for now! This place has been in the news and shut down before...looks like now it should be closed for good! Don't make the mistake of placing your children there! It could mean a lifetime of trauma! Take it from me, I still have nightmares about being taken back there!!
http://www.bethelacademyabuse@yahoogroups.com (http://www.bethelacademyabuse@yahoogroups.com)
groups for parents and students of Bethel Academy
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I wonder. . .
In a case like this, were they claim to be Christian and affilated with a denomanation, in this case, Baptist, would it be worthwhile to hound the Southern Baptist leadership?
We could try.
Maybe a few of out more effictive cyber hounds can sniff out some addresses?
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Bethel must be feeling the heat. They have created a policy on abuse/hazing.
http://www.bethelacademy.com/zerotol.htm (http://www.bethelacademy.com/zerotol.htm)
Word of warning: The military academy my son attended, which had a more "esteemed" reputation than Bethel had a similar policy.
Parents and cadets were assured that there was zero tolerance of hazing.
The reality is that abuse/hazing was a daily part of the program, doled out by staff and older cadets. Lacking real skills, that is the only way they could keep 60-80 cadets (per barrack) in line with only one adult in charge.
Another important issue: Cadets were confused about what was and was not abuse because they were told, as the abuse was ocurring that it was normal punishment, and in our situation reports of abuse/hazing were "handled" with more abuse.
Like most programs, parents were told to ignore complaints and reports of abuse and to notify a staff member so they could handle the child's "manipulation" pattern.
They were telling parents to ignore reports and telling the cadets that the parents didn't care and had given them full rein. Fail proof system to prevent reports of abuse. Matters not what the policy states.
Actually, they are responding to court orders.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/bethelopen.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/bethelopen.html)
http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0308/22/m03.html (http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0308/22/m03.html)
Has this set a precedent for religious "exemption" in regards to state regulations?
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/bet ... orial.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/betheleditorial.html)
Editorial- Polics continues
From the first days of existence for the Bethel Boys Academy of Lucedale, we have always considered them as a "last resort" school. We are convince that no one can operate a school of last resorts in the same way you would operate Sunday School class or regular high school. In the first place, Bethel is dealing with youth that the regular school setting has failed. Yes, failed. Failed, regardless if the situation is the fault of the school, the boys, the boys' own families or the failures of all three entities.
We really believe the State of Mississippi was "saving face" by allowing the school to remain open. Especially, after learning an assistant attorney general involved in the case in his fading remarks stated,"? now the children are safe." With that mentality, the people probably think everything is "A-OK at the state owned and state run boys' school in Columbia, MS.
Another point of contention is the mention of allegations of "mental and physical abuse" at the school that operate a boot camp disciplinary situation.
Well, has anyone who has ever served in the United States Armed Forces ever been exposed to what they would consider "mental and physical abuse?" Of course, you don't go through basic training or a boot camp without going through rough mental and physical abuse.
How can Bethel operate a boot camp type school without the students having to cross this line? What does the state want Bethel to do, become as big a failure as the state run boy's home has become?
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MOUNTAIN PARK BAPTIST ACADEMY--- Another faith based program under fire for crossing the line. For those who may not remember, this is the program that prompted Alexia Parks to write her book An American Gulag.
http://www.mountainparksurvivors.com (http://www.mountainparksurvivors.com)
http://www.teenliberty.com (http://www.teenliberty.com)
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More on Bethel at:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2516&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2516&forum=9)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2589&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2589&forum=9)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2516&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2516&forum=9)
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What about the idea of hounding the southern baptist leadership?
Anyone ever folow up on that. If we had some good addresses, we could mount a letter writting campaign.
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First of all, Herman is a disciple of the Lester Roloff. All this talk of his harshness and cruelty goes back to the way the Roloff people did things.
Beat the crap out of kids, after all beating them into submission make them receptive to whatever orientation you embrace and force on them.
I am not anti Christian, on the contrary I am very pro Christian. But beating, shocking, running them and otherwise mentally AND physically exhausting someone to convert them is not the Christian way!
Second of all, Fountain is an independent. Nobody, even God apparently, can tell him what to do so the Baptists do not have a chance. He tried to buck the State years ago and did get a little jail time. However this time it is obvious he played the game with them. He is older, wiser, and richer if he does play the game.
That place in Lucedale is the Bethel gulag. It is a money making machine when that home is at capacity. It is about the bucks folks, at the rates being thrown around on some referral sites they get over 30K per year for a fully funded kid.
One source said they had between 100-120 or so kids when the Miss cops showed up to raid the place last year.
Do the math-120 X 30K=thats around around 3 million or so a year. Not bad for an operation that sits next to a cotton field.
The structures on the site are at best old, rundown and shabby. Where is the parents money going? Into a very comfortable lifestyle for the Fountain clan. Some of them do not even have siding on them, just the outer walls and exposed tarpaper.
The state was negligent in that it did not close it down, padlock the doors and throw all them in jail when it had the chance. I think if the state could or would not do it, the Baptist denomination is out of luck.
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Baptist is as much an identity with certain tenants and beliefs as much as it is an organization or denomination.
Herman is an INDEPENDENT Baptist and as such embraces the doctrines but not submission to thier (The Southern Baptists) organization.
Southern Baptists have NO jurisdiction over that Bethel. Best the SBC can do is publish a disclaimer that Bethel Baptist and Bethel Academy are NOT affiliated with the SBC.
Bethel's roots are the Rolloff brand of Baptist.
Rolloff and his homes wre notorious and stayed in trouble continually due to allegations of abuse.
Herman was affiliated with Rolloff at one time in his career.
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Keep the pressure on! We MUST shut down the Bethel Gulag!
Keep posting, keep telling, keep networking until the day the police deliver summonds to all the Fountains involved, take custody of all the boys and PADLOCK the PLACE!!!!
I cannot wait!!
What a blessed day that will be.
The icing on the cake will be Herman peering out from behind bars again as he should have been all along!
Close BETHEL FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Right on, Brother!
Every day BETHEL is open is a DAY without sunshine!
When the gates are padlocked the sun will shine again, because no more children will be humiliated, screamed at beaten or subjected to the Gospel according to HERMAN!!!
Close Bethel FOREVER!!
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A new site is on the net and is looking for submissions by former or current students, parents of students or employees of Bethel that feel they have been abused.
the url is
http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth (http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth)
Looks like the criteria for posting is kinda strict, but if people follow the rules this site can be another strong source for information about alleged abuse at Bethel.
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Herman is a dictator. He oppresses his employess as much or more than he does the kids.
His matra he chants often is "it is all for the boys".
Yet why do the boys eat garbage (mac and cheese and fruit cocktail is a nutrious meal?) while Herman and John drive around on their NEW HARLEYS!
If you ask to be treated fairly and as you would be by rank sinners on any other job, then you become a dissenter, get marked and entrapped so they can fire you. Fact of the matter is rank sinners have more capacity for compassion and fair treatment than Herman has in in big toe.
Make no mistake, Bethel IS NOT a ministry. it is a money making cash cow for the Fountains. If you appear to be breaking loose of his mind control you are marked, tricked up or entrapped and fired.
No one is allowed to even voice the truth on that campus about Herman. He is an iron handed ruler and a devil in sheep's clothing.
Why is every employee a contract person? Why are not taxes and social security withheld from people's checks? Why does he not take out unemployment compensation, why does he neither give a 1099 or W2 as proof you even worked there?
Why does he often pay employees in cash and seek out people that will work for him under those terms?
Is this a Christian way to run a ministry?
I think not!
He must be stopped. He does not follow the law with employment because it would take money out of HIS pocket! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, PROSPECTIVE PARENT! It IS NOT about your child, it is about the money.
Send your kid elsewhere, not to Bethel. Do your homework, don't fall for that website of thiers and that bull about loving discipline. Read the forums, this one and Hard Truth. He turned his webmaster loose on several other forums and got them pulled. He does not want the truth to be out there, but the TRUTH must prevail!!
Don't send YOUR KID THERE!!!
Herman and his brood live very well and want for nothing because gullible parents fall for his crap. Please, PLEASE do not fall for it.
You kid may not LIVE to tell about it!
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Somebody clear up for me what is going on now a Bethel. Is Herman the lesser now at Beth-HELL Lucedale, with Herman the GREAT (sr) at the Girls home in Petal?
I pity the girls if he is!
Rest assured, friends, Herman Sr. will not let go of control of the Beth-HELL empire until he is deceased or in prison.
Why do we keep messing around with this?
Why don't we organize and force the State of Miss to close all the Beth-HELL locations.
Then, lock up Knott (he is really DIRTY), Herman Sr (convicted felon and child abuser) and John (don't got a clue and GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION) and throw away the key!
Sounds like FUN to me!!!
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On 2004-02-27 19:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Herman is a dictator. He oppresses his employess as much or more than he does the kids.
His matra he chants often is "it is all for the boys".
Yet why do the boys eat garbage (mac and cheese and fruit cocktail is a nutrious meal?) while Herman and John drive around on their NEW HARLEYS!
If you ask to be treated fairly and as you would be by rank sinners on any other job, then you become a dissenter, get marked and entrapped so they can fire you. Fact of the matter is rank sinners have more capacity for compassion and fair treatment than Herman has in in big toe.
Make no mistake, Bethel IS NOT a ministry. it is a money making cash cow for the Fountains. If you appear to be breaking loose of his mind control you are marked, tricked up or entrapped and fired.
No one is allowed to even voice the truth on that campus about Herman. He is an iron handed ruler and a devil in sheep's clothing.
Why is every employee a contract person? Why are not taxes and social security withheld from people's checks? Why does he not take out unemployment compensation, why does he neither give a 1099 or W2 as proof you even worked there?
Why does he often pay employees in cash and seek out people that will work for him under those terms?
Is this a Christian way to run a ministry?
I think not!
He must be stopped. He does not follow the law with employment because it would take money out of HIS pocket! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, PROSPECTIVE PARENT! It IS NOT about your child, it is about the money.
Send your kid elsewhere, not to Bethel. Do your homework, don't fall for that website of thiers and that bull about loving discipline. Read the forums, this one and Hard Truth. He turned his webmaster loose on several other forums and got them pulled. He does not want the truth to be out there, but the TRUTH must prevail!!
Don't send YOUR KID THERE!!!
Herman and his brood live very well and want for nothing because gullible parents fall for his crap. Please, PLEASE do not fall for it.
You kid may not LIVE to tell about it!
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Thanks Anon, I hope and pray parents will heed your warning. Bottom line is a program is only as good as the people running it. Parents need to know the background of the people they entrust with the care and treatment of their child. Do not be fooled by wolves in sheep's clothing!
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That little brat giving you trouble?
Pay me to fix your children!
Satisfaction guaranteed..
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I recently mentioned a site I have a large part in called http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth (http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth).
Originally when we put it on the net we had stringent posting requirements. We have relaxed them significantly, as well as added a news page and started a postings page.
We now want anyone that would like to submit an essay style statement of abuse, mistreatment or other wrongs done to them at Bethel. This includes employees as well.
Any news items of interest are very sought after. Leaks about any current crisises or catastrophies at Bethel going on now will really be good for us. Any news item of interest from current employees will be appreciated.
You may remain 100% anonymous and never give your real name or real email address if you like. If you need help setting up an anonymous account (through someone like Yahoo) just drop us a line at bethel_truth@yahoo.com.
I am proud to announce this site as a supplement to the excellent job Formits and other forums do to give us to have a voice against people like the Fountains and Bethel. We are not trying to replace the forums, but rather help them in the fight to close all the Beth-HELLS for ever.
Rod Namdoog
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try http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth (http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth) . That works!
Rod
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In 1974, the Supreme Court decided that neither presumed or punitive damages are to be allowed unless the plaintiff proves that the publisher/broadcaster made the statement knowing that it was false or entertaining serious doubts to its truth
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Let it be heard that Bethel will finally have it's fair day in court. Victims lined up a mile long (to include former employees and even innocent bystanders) are waiting and ready to testify. Bottom line, all the medical documentation does not lie. Bethel will be shut down and off to prison the Felony Child Abusers will go. I truly thank GOD for the internet. Many years ago victims would come out of Bethel and try to sue. Nothing against Bethel's money and political corruption in Miss. This lawsuit is going to make national news. POWER IN NUMBERS is the motto of this lawsuit. The internet has allowed victims to find me week after week. Even former employees (sick of the abuse towards the children and employees) have come forward. We will prevail. GOD IS GOOD.
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I'd like to suggest press releases to the major newpapers Nation wide.
PRESS RELEASE - topic - contact information.
These really do work. Often reporters will call those on the contact list to formulate a story. ...the people have a right to keep and bear arms.
-- Patrick Henry and George Mason Debates
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I believe most of the newspapers down in MS. have been paid off also. It seems that for a while Bethel was so concerned with websites using newspaper articles (MS. newspapers that had run articles on Bethel's abuse, removal of children, etc.) were threatened by the newspapers to remove them as permission hadn't been granted to use the articles. I don't believe for one minute that those newspapers suddenly felt they needed to surf the web looking for any and all reprints of their articles on Bethel. Make sense?
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Looks like the Bethel Girls Academy, Petal, MS. (owned and operated by the Fountains also) is in more trouble.
Sheriff says girls moved from Bethel Home in Petal
The Associated Press
PETAL ? About 40 teenage girls have been removed from a privately run, at-risk home in Petal and the case was turned over to the Forrest County Youth Court.
The girls were transferred Wednesday night from the Bethel Home to an undisclosed location for their safety, said Sheriff Billy McGee.
State Department of Human Services spokesman Rick Whitlow said Thursday the agency would have no comment.
?We?re referring all inquiries to the youth court in the county,? Whitlow said.
Under Mississippi law, Youth Court proceedings are confidential.
Sheriff Billy McGee said several state agencies ? including DHS, the attorney general? office and the Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality ? were at the privately owned facility for teenage girls for most of the day Wednesday.
?Apparently, the state received some complaints regarding some sort of mistreatment of the girls,? McGee said. ?I really don?t know what those complaints are, we were just called in to provide security and to transport the girls to a different location.?
The sheriff said that the parents of the girls were being notified to come and pick up their children.
?Until they are picked up from that location, they are under the custody of DHS,? he said. ?Overall, there are about 30-40 kids involved.?
McGee said the Bethel Home is located in Petal, near the Jones County line. He said the facility was operated by a church but he was not sure which one.
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I think it should be noted that this last story to break about Bethel Girls Academy is only being one by one newspaper down there - the Clarion-Ledger. The other two big papers the Sun Herald and Gulfport don't seem interested. Hmmmmmm. Makes you wonder. A big story like this and they aren't reporting?
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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news ... 81875.html (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040523/localnews/481875.html)
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news ... 81867.html (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040523/localnews/481867.html)
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news ... 75204.html (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040522/localnews/475204.html)
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Well, folks to add to Herman 1 and Herman 2's troubles. the girls home has been busted.
The state took about 35-40 girls out. Seems some overtones of abuse, maybe sexual of some kind.It is absolutely AMAZING this has been allowed to go on for over 25 years!
This outfit abuses the kids and the employees. No one in Lucedale or Petal much likes them and few associate with them.
He is a sick, demented man who thinks he will be on the front row of heaven's choir when he kicks off. More likely in one of hell's chain gangs!
If you only knew some of the stories that remain untold due to people's fear of that man.
Hope Cheryle and her folks are sucessful. This is about justice, not vengance.
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There is a scripture repeated several places in the New Testament regarding what is done in the dark or the corner will be revealed in the light.
Bethel has operated for nearly 30 years to some degree to itself. Herman fought the state's highest level of law enforcement on that very campus not because he was afraid of what they would find there as much as thier "invading his turf".
Herman is about control. 100% control. If you are on that campus, it is mandatory you NEVER speak one word critical of him, period. It is kinda like the Matrix trilogy, for you Matrix fans.
Remember in the first of the threquel Morpheus tells Neo everybody in the Matrix is a potential agent? Well that is very much the case at Bethel. Everyone there is either Herman's agent or gone! If you breathe a single word of "betrayal" (may simply be the truth, but do not voice it) you are marked. Then everyone there that associates with you in the Hermatrix morphs into a Herman agent. Their ears are tuned in and anything you say not fully in compliance with the "mission" of the home (really Herman's game plan) gets reported back to Herman faithfully and completely.
Again, your 100% loyalty to the man is required, if he is right or if he is wrong. Period.
It's a blend of sweatshop, 40's managemnent philosophy and slave labor. Wages are medeocre, conditions are only passable and the rhetoric is free flowing.
Back to the Trooper "invasion" issue which flows well with the previous comments. You have to be inside Herman's head just a bit to really "get it"> Herman has never wanted to fellowship with the local churches or pastors. Instead he created his own "exclusive" church "for the boys, you know it is all for the boys" By having a church and all the other support services basically on site, about the only time he has to associate with the Lucedalians is when they have to buy food and supplies. There are local leaders now urging John and Herman both to associate more with the community. Reluctatly, it is being reported John is trying to do so. Herman is still distant even to now.
Why? Because the more open the place becomes, the less of tyrants the leadership can be. The less tough love which is really mental and still some physical abuse as reported by boys that have been at Bethel during and after the settlement of the consent decree.
It has been reported from very reliable sources close to the program at Bethel that the Drill Instructors would "tone down" the discipline of the boys when word was put out visitors would be on campus that might not "understand our manner of discipline" What that really meant was they would not force a boy to eat and gorge himself as punishment or scream madly like one crazed at a kid because he bobbled out of formation in the lunch line. Again, "visitors" are a disruption of the normal way of life at Bethel. They crimp the DI freedom to discipline in the best Bethel fashion.
This is why I grow so weary with the handful of people that defend Herman and his sons. There will never be a fundamental change in the core values of that place until the Fountain name is totally and completely eradicated from it. That is simply not going to happen because Herman came to Lucedale to begin with because it is a small obscure sleepy community where he could buy land, build a compound and work his Lester Roloff inspired "rehabilitation program".
The court made a very watered down weak effort to force Bethel out of the Lucedale woods, but all Herman and Co. have to do is wait it out. Token community involvement just enough to satisfy the court until the decree runs out. It does have an expiration date.
They, the core leadership of Bethel primarily Fountains want outsiders to remain such. The state made a feeble attempt to assert themselves last year with the May raid, but then became impotent when it came time to be tough. Now we are stuck with the new and improved Bethel that is no more than a whitewash.
Now with news agencies swarming over stories about Bethel, the web, people's negative testimony piling up in volumes, and public record building an overwhelming case against Bethel, Herman is desparate to stop the flood tide of informtion.
Wake up Mr. Fountain, this is the 21ST century! We communicate with the world via satellite, cell phone and wireless internet. Gone are your days of "hiding" in Lucedale.
Your threats, lawyers, throwing parents hard earned money at it nor any other tactic can put the lid back on THIS Pandora's box that has been opened.
One forum accused Bethel's former webmaster of using intimidation tactics to try to get information that was both credible and factual about Herman and the home removed from postings on that particular forum. That accusation by the forum against the former Bethel webmaster was and is true. I hope the former webmaster, wherever he is now realizes he was an unwitting pawn in Herman's manner of threats and strongarming people to try to suppress the truth. I wish I could sit down and talk with the gentleman that was the former Bethel webmaster and explain to him how wrong he personally was to defend Herman. I guess I will never have that opportunity, but I am sure a web savvy guy like him has read up on Bethel by now. Maybe his mind has changed.
It is very hard when scores of kids and parents will go under oath to testify of the problems thay have had with Bethel.
Like I say, what has been done in the dark will be revealed in the light. And Soon!
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John Goodman has finally broke his silence over his ordeal as an employee at Bethel Academy. You will find his post at http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth (http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth) and I am sure you will find it very enlightening. Email John at jgoodman_01@yahoo.com.
A number of us have been after him for some time to do this, so now let's spread the word another post from an eye witness abused by the Fountain organization has stepped forward to speak out.
Rod
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bethel is being reopened as "eagle point academy". my guess, the publicity was too much, so they needed a "facelift".
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A skunk is still a SKUNK even if you rename him KITY KITTY!
Get my DRIFT!
A rename means nothing...Bethel will be Bethel as long as ANY Fountain is breathing.
Sure to be the name will make no difference as it did not before.
See how good an effect Herman sr had on the girl's home? Poor Bubba had to close it down. Now he is selling it for 1.5 MILLION!!!
Told you guys it is all about the money, always has been and always will be
Remember the equations
Fountain family name+exploited and abused children and families=MONEY any way they can take or get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BETHEL BOYS HOME AKS EAGLE POINT CHRISTIAN ACADEMY 1996
These people are fucked up, Mental, Physical and emotional abuse, worked us like slaves, called us niggers, Im from Cali and no one says that shit, They made us dig a ditch 7am05pm all day for a week just to cover it back up, that is when we had no work, other times we were helping build or paint his house, raking leaves, cutting down trees. That place didnt give no therapy, no activities, no rehabilitation whatsoever, just pure bullshit, I would like to hear from other people who were there around the 90's and went through this shit, I randomly found this anonline and I must say, NOT TOO SUPRISING, I was lucky, getting out after 2 months by begging my parents. That place tried to scare the shit out of us, "Yoiull have a bounty hunter on you if you try to leave!" They said the leaders were actually kids that were sent there, all kinds of BS, I hope Herman Fountain gets it good! That guy is doing this scam in the name of God and treating these kids like theyre worthless, God, I hate that place, I was really compliant when I was there so I didnt reaLLY GET MESSED WITH TOO MUCH BUT i WOULD SEE WHAT THEY DID TO NEW KIDS , EMBARRASSING THEM, WORKING THEM BEYOND REASON, THESE fOINTAINS ARE very sick people in Lucedale, Mississippi, They took my parents money promising all these good things, They were cheap, greedy, negligent, I am 25 now and that was the worst experience of my whole life, worst than anything! This guy mFountain made us build him a house, he is suck a fucking con-artist, jus stupid son John threw me to the ground one time when we were playing basketball, I was just talking a little trash during a game, nothing serious and he got pissed for some reason. I still would like to go back there this day with a shotgun and free the kids, of course I wouldnt. Those racist fuckin people at mississippi in lucedale, that place is blasphemy, hell, anyone who is posting good things abiout is just trying to cover up and they are from within the Fountain family, when i was there in 1996 there were about 40 boys on two floors, we would have 3 minutes to take a shower, Three, 180 Seconds, I dont know why they couldnt give us 5 or 7? They would wake us up at 5:30 when it was still dark out and we have 5 minutes to wash up, get dressed, brush our teeth, make our beds and they would come in Yelling loud at 5:30 in the morning "GET UP, GET OUT YOUR BEDS" about 5 times and we would have a couple minutes to be standing there, we had to clean up after the Fountains, they lived like royaly while we were like their slave, My parents regret sending me there and we have spoken considerably about it and they told me how they were conned by Herman Fountain, Bethel Baptist, Billi, who was a worker at a place my parents were going called "Because we love you", they are here in LA where I live and reccomended Bethel in Lucedale. Well, they told my mom and dad a whole different story and took their money, Forget about the money, there is kids still getting treated like shit over there and it needs to stop! God Willing! Why are you so fond of that hellhole , did they help you, counsel you, anything? You should be pissed that your parents were such pussies and so selfish and lazy like mine that they sent you there, no one deserves that shit, even if I was a troubled teen, thats doent equate
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On 2005-02-06 19:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth (http://www.freewebs.com/bethel-truth) and I am sure you will find it very enlightening. Email John at http://fornits.com/anonanon/ (http://fornits.com/anonanon/) (I just replace the old betheltruth.org link w/ this new one)The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
--Edmund Burke
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It seems that Eagle Point (Bethel Home for Boys in Lucedale) has made the news AGAIN!! This time many of the 120 boys have rioted as John Fountain stated that the boys heard that the facility was going to be investigated AGAIN and the boys did not want for it to be. How crazy does that sound? I can not for the life of me believe that these 120 boys are so PRO-Fountains that they did not want them in trouble. I am so sick of these guys and someone needs to wake up and put their Narcassistic Butts in Jail. I live in the area and I have seen what these boys look like when they are taken to the doctor's office and emergency room. They are dishelved and appear very frightened. I am ashamed that they live in Mississippi - it is crazy guys like that that give other Mississippians bad names and we are categorized with the likes of them. The father and two sons are definitely conartist - they are very good at snowing people over and convenience people in the area that they are chrisitians and that they are doing this for the kids and that all the kids need are tough love. One of the sons told someone that the only reason these kids come to them is because the parents did not want them - I am sure most of you parents on this site were not aware that it was being told you did not care for your son or daughter. I just pray that God can forgive me for the hate I have in my heart for them.
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One of the sons told someone that the only reason these kids come to them is because the parents did not want them - I am sure most of you parents on this site were not aware that it was being told you did not care for your son or daughter. I just pray that God can forgive me for the hate I have in my heart for them.>>>
When we placed our son at Bethel Boys aka Eagle Point Christian Academy, we told our son where he was going, what services and such he would receive, showed him all the information, etc. Once my son arrived (and his Dad left the compound) he was beaten by four drill instructors.The abuse and torture continued. My son told me that the following day, Monday, he got into the medication line during lunch so he could talk to the nurse. He told the nurse that he thought there must be some kind of mistake as his parents told him he would attend school, receive therapy, activities, etc. The nurse told him that all came later and to get out of the line. The drill instructors told our son that we had tricked him and that we knew full well what was happening to him. LIES!!!!!!
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Ginger,
I have tried several times to access this Bethel Truth site. Am I missing something? Where are these posts at on the site? What is the link?
Thanks in advance for you help.