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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: psy on August 22, 2007, 12:59:05 AM

Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: psy on August 22, 2007, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Has Izzy hired Reputation Defender, or does Izzy know how to manipulate Google , herself?
The first 10 pages of a google search of  "Isabelle Zehnder" only shows 6 hits of anything negative about this self-proclaimed "advocate."
Only two Fornits posts show up!

Let me explain why:

Quote
Hi Mike,


It is an email to me personally from wpromote.com. I paid to have sponsored links through wpromote.com above Fornits, Sue Scheff, Carey Bock, and WWASP. The links were there for a day or two but, then, all disappeared. The wpromote was just a link to the blog on Green vs. Sue Scheff ([redacted]).


I'm also trying to get my webmaster to update and edit some errors on my web site, but he's very busy, so I don't know how long it will take.  It's Front Page and he moved and cannot easily locate the discs, as I want to load them on my computer. Kind of frustrating.


[redacted]

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Michael Crawford psyborgue@mac.com

> What company sent you this information? This is very interesting.
>
> [redacted] wrote:
> > Please respond to [redacted] as I check it more often.
> > FYI, this information is from a company to me:
> > "Google has basically given certain keywords poor quality scores which
> > makes them very expensive to bid on. This can happen for several
> > reasons. I am going to try a few more tweaks to see if this will make
> > any significant changes over the weekend.
> > The keywords that are currently active are:
> > Fornits.com
> > Troubled teens
> > Carey bock katrina
> > PURE
> > Sue scheff fraud case"
> > Obviously, SS did this and she has no right to ban the word "fornits"
> > or certainly "carey bock" or "toubled teens." But, I'm told that
> > enriching content with the above words will get them higher on the
> > search engines.
> > Also, you have my permission to use any of my blog sites or main site
> > of [redacted] (I cannot yet update the main site because I
> > have to rely on another person). You have my permission to cut and
> > paste with the only request that you place my name on them with web
> > site (i.e., written by: [redacted] at [redacted]). A few
> > on my web have my name at the bottom only. If you go to one blog
> > spot, it will lead you to five or six others.
> > [redacted]
> >
> >
>


The question now remains: What did Sue have to say or do to pull this off?  

We already know about her previous bullshit with godaddy (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=275756#275756) and Netfirms (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=277007#277007), webwire (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=275771#275771)(to both Carey Bock and Paula Reeves), digg (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=22590), naymz (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=22521) and more... but this is truly interesting.....
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Ursus on August 22, 2007, 01:51:19 AM
Does Google have a clue as to how they're being played?  Does Reputation Defender own a lot of Google stock?  Does this perchance violate some kind of Fair Use practices or something similar that I am too tired or too ignorant to be able to term more appropriately?

Is the Internet turning into nothing more than an alternate form of bought media outlets like the rest of the world?
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 22, 2007, 02:24:00 AM
*My techno-geekery is failing me*

Wow, can I get a translation? What does all of this mean exactly?
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Froderik on August 22, 2007, 07:57:45 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Is the Internet turning into nothing more than an alternate form of bought media outlets like the rest of the world?

Sure looks like it, don't it?
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Deborah on August 22, 2007, 08:09:54 AM
Speaking of Google.... check this out!!
I have an alert for "wilderness therapy"
Look what arrived this morning.
Warning.... the link takes you to a porn site.


Google Blogs Alert for: "wilderness therapy"

Spiritual Programs for Troubled Teens
By jwqo(jwqo)
Wilderness therapy programs sometimes referred to as Outdoor Education, have proven themselves to be exceptional catalysts for change in troubled children and teenagers. Because of our reputation for quality, safety and longevity, ...
Adult Finder - http://adult-findernkknfmj.blogspot.com/ (http://adult-findernkknfmj.blogspot.com/)
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Froderik on August 22, 2007, 08:37:21 AM
This will prolly sound like a stupid question, but what do you make of that?
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
This will prolly sound like a stupid question, but what do you make of that?
I don't get it either
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Froderik on August 22, 2007, 08:43:19 AM
Well now I feel a little less stupid... LOL
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2007, 11:19:26 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Does Google have a clue as to how they're being played?  Does Reputation Defender own a lot of Google stock?  Does this perchance violate some kind of Fair Use practices or something similar that I am too tired or too ignorant to be able to term more appropriately?

Is the Internet turning into nothing more than an alternate form of bought media outlets like the rest of the world?


Reputation Defender is a small company.  There's even speculation that it's run out of an apartment in Kentucky.  For a long time, they didn't even have a land-line telephone number = it's a fly-by-night company.

http://onlinereputation.googlepages.com (http://onlinereputation.googlepages.com)

The press coverage is from connections the CEO has.  Check out his pre-Reputation Defender background and you'll see why.

Reputation Defender isn't the CEO, Michael Fertik's, first start-up company.  The other ones failed, by the way.

I imagine that, once the media spamming is over, Reputation Defender may very well quietly die, as well.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: janus zeal on August 23, 2007, 04:33:39 PM
Google is not being played, and reputation defender can't do shit. Trust me, I work with ED.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2007, 04:45:50 PM
Sue Scheff Truth is back on the first page of google. ::seg::
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: psy on August 23, 2007, 04:49:37 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Sue Scheff Truth is back on the first page of google. ::seg::

I noticed.  And I just got a nice gift certificate to google Ads too.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Antigen on August 23, 2007, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
This will prolly sound like a stupid question, but what do you make of that?


My guess would be that it's the same kind of prank as that sponsored Google ad for the KegelMeister headlined as "Sue Scheff for Women".
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: psy on August 24, 2007, 07:15:43 AM
This is a partial list of her splogs to date:

69 Seperate blogspot blogs in her name (not entries / posts... 36 _BLOGS_)

suescheff-teengangs.blogspot.com/
suescheffcareybock.blogspot.com/
carey-bock.blogspot.com/
suescheff-teeninternet.blogspot.com/
suescheffpuresatisfaction.blogspot.com/
suescheff-pure.blogspot.com/
admittingmistakesasaparent.blogspot.com/
atwitsendbook.blogspot.com/
freedomofspeechdoesnotsupportdefam.blogspot.com/
freespeechhasitslimits.blogspot.com/
suescheffinfoteenagepregnancy.blogspot.com/
winsjuryverdict.blogspot.com/
suescheffcomments.blogspot.com/
parentempowerment.blogspot.com/
suescheff-atwitsend.blogspot.com/
parentstruestory.blogspot.com/
careybock.blogspot.com/
suescheffinfoteendepression.blogspot.com/
suescheff-wwasps.blogspot.com/
suescheffdefeatswwasps.blogspot.com/
sue-scheff.blogspot.com/
suescheffinfo.blogspot.com/
suescheff-teenrunaways.blogspot.com/
thewhitmoreacademy.blogspot.com/
admittingmistakesasa.blogspot.com/
educatingparentstoday.blogspot.com/
suescheff-toughlove.blogspot.com/
suescheff-purerebuttal.blogspot.com/
suescheff-teendepression.blogspot.com/
areyouatyourwitsend.blogspot.com/
suescheff-careybock.blogspot.com/
suescheffvictory.blogspot.com/
suescheff-teenpeerpressure.blogspot.com/
suescheff-myedge.blogspot.com/
financingoptionsschools.blogspot.com/
suescheff-connectwithkids.blogspot.com/
suescheff3.blogspot.com/
witsendbook.blogspot.com/
suescheffandmyedge.blogspot.com/
suescheffandpure.blogspot.com/
suescheffpure.blogspot.com/
suescheffobsession.blogspot.com/
susanscheff.blogspot.com/
suescheff10.blogspot.com/
suescheff-reputationdefender.blogspot.com/
allaboutsuescheff.blogspot.com/
suescheffwhitmoreacademy.blogspot.com/
suescheffsue.blogspot.com/
suescheffbook.blogspot.com/
suescheffornits.blogspot.com/
reputationdefenderandsuescheff.blogspot.com/
suescheff9.blogspot.com/
suescheff2.blogspot.com/
suescheff-suescheff.blogspot.com/
truesuescheff.blogspot.com/
suescheff2020.blogspot.com/
sscheff.blogspot.com/
scheffbock.blogspot.com/
suescheff7.blogspot.com/
suescheff-truth.blogspot.com/
suescheffstory.blogspot.com/
greenvsscheff.blogspot.com/
sueschefftruestory.blogspot.com/
suescheffandthewhitmoreacademy.blogspot.com/
suescheff.blogspot.com/
sueschefftruth.blogspot.com/
suescheff6.blogspot.com/
suescheff1.blogspot.com/
suescheff8.blogspot.com/

And she has now started on other blogs services...
www.resourcesnowblog.us/news/2007/08/pa ... ocate.html (http://www.resourcesnowblog.us/news/2007/08/parent-advocate.html)
suesuescheff.bloghi.com/ - Internet Addiction blog duplicate
community.connectwithkids.com/post/sscheff/blog/educating_parents_with_todays_teens.html
sueschefftruth.wordpress.com/
aboutsuescheff.wordpress.com/ - links to all the following:

www,suescheff.com - Main Personal Site
www,helpyourteens.com - Main google site
www,suescheff.net - Book plug blog duplicate
www,sue-scheff.net - Internet Addiction blog duplicate
www,suescheff.org - Teenage Depression blog duplicate
www,sue-scheff.org - Teenage Pregnancy blog duplicate
www,sue-scheff.info - Teenage Runaways blog duplicate
www,suescheff.info - Gang blog duplicate

And there is more...
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2007, 08:52:44 AM
Good God, and she wants to give advice on internet addiction?  She needs to take some of her own advice.  She seems to have it, internet addiction!
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
Scheff writes about teen pregnacy, teen gangs, and teen runaways too.
Surely she's not writting from personal experiences all the time is she?
If so, no wonder that stupid woman is at her her 'wits end' - has she no parenting skills at all?
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
POSTER: Scheff admitted in the WWASP vs PURE transcripts she has no credentials, no college degree, no work background in any of these fields; so her experience; expertise about teen pregnancy, teen gang, teen runaways  had to come from somewhere.  Does she quote any sources, or give credit to anyone for any facts?  Scheff does claim to be anachers lawsarental expert!
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2007, 12:52:28 PM
One way to offset that might be if we all joined topix.net and spread the truth like in these posts

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK (http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsv ... OJMR2G19LL (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TRTJ33TOJMR2G19LL)

Then, post the links here, so we can all give the truthful topix posts traffic.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 24, 2007, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
One way to offset that might be if we all joined topix.net and spread the truth like in these posts

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK (http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsv ... OJMR2G19LL (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TRTJ33TOJMR2G19LL)

Then, post the links here, so we can all give the truthful topix posts traffic.



I signed up with Digg and 'voted' for the appropriate SS articles.  I got booted within a day.

Corank hasn't booted me yet though.  I'll sign up for Topix and try it.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: psy on August 24, 2007, 01:23:23 PM
This is sad.  www.sueschefftruth.com (http://www.sueschefftruth.com) is off google again.  WTF is going fukkin on!
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: * on August 24, 2007, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""Guest""
One way to offset that might be if we all joined topix.net and spread the truth like in these posts

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK (http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsv ... OJMR2G19LL (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TRTJ33TOJMR2G19LL)

Then, post the links here, so we can all give the truthful topix posts traffic.


I signed up with Digg and 'voted' for the appropriate SS articles.  I got booted within a day.

Corank hasn't booted me yet though.  I'll sign up for Topix and try it.


I'm not booted.. but nothing on Sue Scheff Truth, psy, psyborgue or MC.  Sue has 2 new articles regarding the I-Caught appearance.
Didnt see Sue Scheff Truth on page 4.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: * on August 24, 2007, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""Guest""
One way to offset that might be if we all joined topix.net and spread the truth like in these posts

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK (http://www.topix.com/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsv ... OJMR2G19LL (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TRTJ33TOJMR2G19LL)

Then, post the links here, so we can all give the truthful topix posts traffic.


I signed up with Digg and 'voted' for the appropriate SS articles.  I got booted within a day.

Corank hasn't booted me yet though.  I'll sign up for Topix and try it.


I'm not booted.. but nothing on Sue Scheff Truth, psy, psyborgue or MC.  Sue has 2 new articles regarding the I-Caught appearance.
Sue Scheff Truth on page 4.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Rachael on August 24, 2007, 02:08:11 PM
Ugh..... I used to believe the world was a fairly just place. Ever since AARC and everything that's followed, I've become progessively more disillusioned. It's just getting worse.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Antigen on August 24, 2007, 02:18:33 PM
Well really the universe is infinitely just, so long as you can refrain from believing in an all powerful entity willing to annul the laws of the universe in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. [Abrose Bierce paraphrased]

People generally are not just, especially when they have a little power. And businesses, governments and all other organizations are just lousey with people. But it'll all work out in the end when this great old planet scrapes us off like a bad case of ringworm and the lizards get their turn to reign supreme once again.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Rachael on August 24, 2007, 02:53:10 PM
It's just so bloody disappointing. Why do people have to suck so much?

My only viable options at this point seem to be enterring a hermitage or developing a new strain of some nasty virus and carefully deseminating it as quickly and as widespread as possible. I'm thinking 12 monkeys style, but hopefully without leaving any nasty remnants to use their funky time-travel machines and mess up my plans.

Anyone read Oryx and Crake? Seems like the only intelligent humans left believe we desperately need to control ourselves by whatever means necessary.





*** Disclaimer: Satire, mockery, and the uttering of statements such as the above do not indicate anything other than terrible disillusionment, and are no cause for alarm. I do not actually intend on rendering the entire human race dead, sterile or impotent and if I did I wouldn't tell you. Neither do I intend to disappear and leave the world to its own devices, not yet anyway. I'll just take a short break to replenish my reserves with a good herbal tea and maybe some salad, and then I'll be right back to fend off the onslaught of mind killers, free speech smotherers and nasty little buggers that like to prey on small teenagers.
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 24, 2007, 05:25:46 PM
I got booted from digg too, my posts deleted.....


ot: Mandatory OS upgrades, why?! I think I'll take the monkey plague instead  :cry:
Title: Google Hates Fornits (no, really)
Post by: Antigen on August 24, 2007, 07:22:58 PM
Well, b'lieve it or not I actually do believe in a sort of spiritual or mental power very similar to what the xtians call prayer and others magic or whatever.

Last time I felt acutely as you describe I asked in words for a pack of dogs who would have me. Got it in so many whimsical, meaningful ways it was stunning! And it was healing. Wish the fox of hound city were receptive to all that but he'd just call me crazy if I tried to tell him.

Anyway, don't lose all hope. I ran into his doppleganger yesterday, which I guess is why he's present on my mind again. And I'm reminded that, for all the lousey, no good, self important meanies out there, there are some really good ones too. I try to spend as much time as possible around good people and give them all the care and nurture I can whenever I can.

http://reason.com/news/show/122156.html (http://reason.com/news/show/122156.html)
and here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal ... 61765.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/how-abc-the-wall-street-_b_61765.html)


(hint, hint! A little cross promo, thoughtful comments are sometimes an excellent way to provide such care and nurture in the case of a really wonderful human in the journalism business)