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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: White Cracker Man on August 18, 2007, 02:24:26 PM
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I am sick and tired of all these Blacks thinking that Whites owe them.They are in America with their twenty five kids from fifteen different men,they clogg up the welfare lines,etc.
If a black person commits a hate crime like what happened to me,he/she gets a fucking ten days or whatever in jail.If a white person commits a hate crime,he/she goes to jail for ages.
And I don't care what color you are,any person who has any kind of a brain should agree with me.
Blacks like to say they are up against it all the time,how about the nonsense where a white person can't get into an elite school because that school excepts a lower performing black student to meet a racial quota?
Granted,black people have it harder than white people but the gap is not as big as so many believe.
I have all the respect in the world for any race who works their ass off and doesn't look to blame other race or races everytime something doesn't go the way they had hoped.
Blacks like to bring up Slavery,the civil rights movement,etc. They say all whites were racist,etc.
Well, my message to Blacks is the next time you see a white person,you could see a person who's anchestors were racists but at the same time you might very well see a white person who's anchestors marched right alongside DR. Martin Luther King JR. himself and/or even could not get into a hotel with their BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
It is truly so sad that the people who know the least about black history are Blacks themselves.
I think Martin Luther King JR. would be bothered by that .I also think he would be bothered by the ignorance of Blacks today just as much as he was by the ignorance of Whites decades ago.
Blacks and other races who live their lives without ignorance, those are the ones who I wish all the success in the world too,the ones who don't,well they could all be lined up and shot execution style and I would not shed a tear.
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Word.
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Honkey Boy, everytime a black person fails to accomplish a goal,it is the fault of all the Honkeys in the world!
Blacks are held back everyday because of White Trash Honkeys like you two!
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Honkey Boy, everytime a black person fails to accomplish a goal,it is the fault of all the Honkeys in the world!
Say what? I don't think so.
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Hey whitey, it is very true. I went to apply for a job as manager of a company that would have paid $75,000 a year.
Did I get the job? Of course not because they gave it to a White Trash Honkey Ass woman!
There is no punishment too severe for all the white people of the world!
Hey whitey , give me your contact info,you are so big on a forum, give me your contact info so me and my son can come over and send you to the emergency room.
I am sick of White America!
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Faye, do you know the dictionary definition of nigger? Look it up. You are the dictionary definition of a nigger.
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Anybody who says that Blacks should just forget about slavery and the civil rights movement is ignorant.
I am sick and damn tired of whites living so close to me. They don't deserve to breath the same air as Blacks. Look at all the damage all of you white trash honkeys have done to Blacks. They take our jobs,they take our money, they take our livlihood.
You whites are gonna suffer one day,all of you white pieces of trash are gonna get yours one day, I promise all you fucking white pieces of trash that!
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I am sick and tired of all these Blacks thinking that Whites owe them.They are in America with their twenty five kids from fifteen different men,they clogg up the welfare lines,etc.
If a black person commits a hate crime like what happened to me,he/she gets a fucking ten days or whatever in jail.If a white person commits a hate crime,he/she goes to jail for ages.
And I don't care what color you are,any person who has any kind of a brain should agree with me.
Blacks like to say they are up against it all the time,how about the nonsense where a white person can't get into an elite school because that school excepts a lower performing black student to meet a racial quota?
Granted,black people have it harder than white people but the gap is not as big as so many believe.
I have all the respect in the world for any race who works their ass off and doesn't look to blame other race or races everytime something doesn't go the way they had hoped.
Blacks like to bring up Slavery,the civil rights movement,etc. They say all whites were racist,etc.
Well, my message to Blacks is the next time you see a white person,you could see a person who's anchestors were racists but at the same time you might very well see a white person who's anchestors marched right alongside DR. Martin Luther King JR. himself and/or even could not get into a hotel with their BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
It is truly so sad that the people who know the least about black history are Blacks themselves.
I think Martin Luther King JR. would be bothered by that .I also think he would be bothered by the ignorance of Blacks today just as much as he was by the ignorance of Whites decades ago.
Blacks and other races who live their lives without ignorance, those are the ones who I wish all the success in the world too,the ones who don't,well they could all be lined up and shot execution style and I would not shed a tear.
Lord *Shakes Head*
Lets paint you black and see what happens...
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I am sick and tired of all these Blacks thinking that Whites owe them.They are in America with their twenty five kids from fifteen different men,they clogg up the welfare lines,etc.
If a black person commits a hate crime like what happened to me,he/she gets a fucking ten days or whatever in jail.If a white person commits a hate crime,he/she goes to jail for ages.
And I don't care what color you are,any person who has any kind of a brain should agree with me.
Blacks like to say they are up against it all the time,how about the nonsense where a white person can't get into an elite school because that school excepts a lower performing black student to meet a racial quota?
Granted,black people have it harder than white people but the gap is not as big as so many believe.
I have all the respect in the world for any race who works their ass off and doesn't look to blame other race or races everytime something doesn't go the way they had hoped.
Blacks like to bring up Slavery,the civil rights movement,etc. They say all whites were racist,etc.
Well, my message to Blacks is the next time you see a white person,you could see a person who's anchestors were racists but at the same time you might very well see a white person who's anchestors marched right alongside DR. Martin Luther King JR. himself and/or even could not get into a hotel with their BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
It is truly so sad that the people who know the least about black history are Blacks themselves.
I think Martin Luther King JR. would be bothered by that .I also think he would be bothered by the ignorance of Blacks today just as much as he was by the ignorance of Whites decades ago.
Blacks and other races who live their lives without ignorance, those are the ones who I wish all the success in the world too,the ones who don't,well they could all be lined up and shot execution style and I would not shed a tear.
Lord *Shakes Head*
Lets paint you black and see what happens...
Fuck you , I don't know what color you are, but if you art not white,lets color you white and have all these blacks harassing you all the time ,lets have some black person hit you in the head with a fucking cane and cause you to have to get four staples in your head.
But hey HanzoMom4, why bother,right? You probably are busy sending your child to ASPEN OR WWASP,right?
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Think what you want about black people, but Hanzomon hardly is the sort to make a dollar off referrals.
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I am sick and tired of all these Blacks thinking that Whites owe them.They are in America with their twenty five kids from fifteen different men,they clogg up the welfare lines,etc.
If a black person commits a hate crime like what happened to me,he/she gets a fucking ten days or whatever in jail.If a white person commits a hate crime,he/she goes to jail for ages.
And I don't care what color you are,any person who has any kind of a brain should agree with me.
Blacks like to say they are up against it all the time,how about the nonsense where a white person can't get into an elite school because that school excepts a lower performing black student to meet a racial quota?
Granted,black people have it harder than white people but the gap is not as big as so many believe.
I have all the respect in the world for any race who works their ass off and doesn't look to blame other race or races everytime something doesn't go the way they had hoped.
Blacks like to bring up Slavery,the civil rights movement,etc. They say all whites were racist,etc.
Well, my message to Blacks is the next time you see a white person,you could see a person who's anchestors were racists but at the same time you might very well see a white person who's anchestors marched right alongside DR. Martin Luther King JR. himself and/or even could not get into a hotel with their BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
It is truly so sad that the people who know the least about black history are Blacks themselves.
I think Martin Luther King JR. would be bothered by that .I also think he would be bothered by the ignorance of Blacks today just as much as he was by the ignorance of Whites decades ago.
Blacks and other races who live their lives without ignorance, those are the ones who I wish all the success in the world too,the ones who don't,well they could all be lined up and shot execution style and I would not shed a tear.
Lord *Shakes Head*
Lets paint you black and see what happens...
Fuck you , I don't know what color you are, but if you art not white,lets color you white and have all these blacks harassing you all the time ,lets have some black person hit you in the head with a fucking cane and cause you to have to get four staples in your head.
But hey HanzoMom4, why bother,right? You probably are busy sending your child to ASPEN OR WWASP,right?
HaHaHa!!!!
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Think what you want about black people, but Hanzomon hardly is the sort to make a dollar off referrals.
No, I never said she was involved with referrals,just said that she showed complete disregard for her child and is probably still doing the same.
Maybe she loves blacks because black men pay her more when she prostitutes herself. Regardless,the woman and I use that term very loosely, is a cunt.
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*Plays along* :lol:
How did I show disregard for my child?
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Mike.. I'm not going to give you some big lecture on the Zen Art of Internet melt downs. Lord knows I could teach a PH.d course on the subject. But do you really have hard confirmation that Hanzomon4 is a woman?
What are you basing your assertions on that this person in fact is a mother of child who is or was in a program?
Because from what I know Hanzomon4 is a man.
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*Plays along* :lol:
How did I show disregard for my child?
You yourself have said you were once a program parent. And that you have seen the light or whatever.
Except that is probably a ruse, past behavior is not always a predictor of future behavior but if the shoe fits...
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*Plays along* :lol:
How did I show disregard for my child?
You yourself have said you were once a program parent. And that you have seen the light or whatever.
Except that is probably a ruse, past behavior is not always a predictor of future behavior but if the shoe fits...
Ok, lets clear this up....
I'm not a woman and I have no kids, even if I did I'd never send them to a program. Listen whatever happened to you at the hands of some black dude was wrong. I understand your anger, if you were black and your attackers were white you probably would have the same feelings about whites as a group.
My advice, don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch. I've faced racism, especially after Katrina, but I just look at it as coming from wounded or ignorant people. Maybe the racists I've meet were just folks having a bad day. No matter I just smile and go about my day.
Now who you described in your first post are not blacks. Blacks are hard working Americans with a tragic history, the effects of which are felt in everyday life in ways we don't always realize or see. Do we all get the same kind of care from our doctors? All things equal, would we pay the same interest on a loan? Are black criminals prosecuted more harshly then white criminals? Do black businesses get the same support from local government as white businesses? What about media coverage, looter or storm victim looking for food?
This is not the overt racism of yesteryear, todays racism is mostly covert but it's there and it has an impact on the lives of Americans. But Blacks don't just cry about it, they live their lives and protest when needed. The problems most people attribute to Blacks should be attributed to poverty, which most Blacks live in. The problems that affect Black Americans can be found amongst all poor Americans regardless of race.
But anyway, I hope you don't stay bitter because of your experience. We can be asses like the rest of em, but we can also be good friends..
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Mike I like you alot. You have always been one of my favorite people to troll, and later on I've enjoyed watching you grow up some. I can't emphasize enough on the key point that you take the time to really see where Hanzomon is coming from. He makes some good points. I've faced my own racism in the South, and I'm as lily white as it gets, and gotten even more of it here in Korea.
The idea of being a second class citizen is something I've gotten pretty used to.
So like I said look over what Hanzomon think are really think about where you are going with this. You've got a huge future ahead of you once you get a few thing sorted out and I'd hate to see that future screwed up due to something as pointless as stereotyping ethnic groups.
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I just saw that about 2 weeks ago. Perfect!
:nworthy: ::cheers:: ::cheers::
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Thanks!
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Think what you want about black people, but Hanzomon hardly is the sort to make a dollar off referrals.
No, I never said she was involved with referrals,just said that she showed complete disregard for her child and is probably still doing the same.
Maybe she loves blacks because black men pay her more when she prostitutes herself. Regardless,the woman and I use that term very loosely, is a cunt.
Wow learn something new every day. I'm so glad my dad was and is an ignorant racist fuck. It woke me up and allowed me to experience the shit for myself rather than believe his sorry ass.
Thank god I did cuz i met some damn cool black (as well as other races) people. But apparently they aren't living up to their potential of being reputable pimps and hos. I will have to have a talk with them immediately. Thanks for the enlightenment. :o :o :o
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I too know what it's like to be on the receiving end of racial discrimination thanks to this disgusting and offensive site! :flame:
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I too know what it's like to be on the receiving end of racial discrimination thanks to this disgusting and offensive site! :flame:
So you like getting fucked in the ass on fornits by anyone who isn't Jewish. Am I on the right track?
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So you like getting fucked in the ass on fornits by anyone who isn't Jewish.
This post is asinine (no pun intended), not to mention humorless. The poster must have thought a play on the phrase "receiving end" would be funny. Nice try, but that was a sorry-ass (again, no pun intended) attempt at humor if I ever saw one. Better luck next time, ass-fucker. :roll: :rofl:
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So you like getting fucked in the ass on fornits by anyone who isn't Jewish.
This post is asinine (no pun intended), not to mention humorless. The poster must have thought a play on the phrase "receiving end" would be funny. Nice try, but that was a sorry-ass (again, no pun intended) attempt at humor if I ever saw one. Better luck next time, ass-fucker. :roll: :rofl:
Yes and your unintended puns have us on the floor in hysterical laughter. Wow what wit! :o :o
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Yes and your unintended puns have us on the floor in hysterical laughter. Wow what wit! :o :o
I never claimed to be going for laughs here, fuckface. Must have struck a nerve.
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I too know what it's like to be on the receiving end of racial discrimination thanks to this disgusting and offensive site! :flame:
So you like getting fucked in the ass on fornits by anyone who isn't Jewish. Am I on the right track?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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Think what you want about black people, but Hanzomon hardly is the sort to make a dollar off referrals.
No, I never said she was involved with referrals,just said that she showed complete disregard for her child and is probably still doing the same.
Maybe she loves blacks because black men pay her more when she prostitutes herself. Regardless,the woman and I use that term very loosely, is a cunt.
Wow learn something new every day. I'm so glad my dad was and is an ignorant racist fuck. It woke me up and allowed me to experience the shit for myself rather than believe his sorry ass.
Thank god I did cuz i met some damn cool black (as well as other races) people. But apparently they aren't living up to their potential of being reputable pimps and hos. I will have to have a talk with them immediately. Thanks for the enlightenment. :o :o :o
Kelly,if you had the same amount of other knowledge as you do tech knowledge,then the world would be a better place.
Like I said and will say to everyne is tell me when you get assaulted with a cane and three or whatever amount of security people do absolutely nothing to help you and all these black people are laughing as they immobilize you and take you off to the emergency room on a stretcher and you think you might go unconscious.
I don't think that's racist but for whoever does, then I will say Well, I rather be racist than be subjected to psycological and physical abuse.
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Like I said and will say to everyne is tell me when you get assaulted with a cane and three or whatever amount of security people do absolutely nothing to help you and all these black people are laughing as they immobilize you and take you off to the emergency room on a stretcher and you think you might go unconscious.
Those damned schvatzas...they can be so horribly vicious! I feel for you.
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Think what you want about black people, but Hanzomon hardly is the sort to make a dollar off referrals.
No, I never said she was involved with referrals,just said that she showed complete disregard for her child and is probably still doing the same.
Maybe she loves blacks because black men pay her more when she prostitutes herself. Regardless,the woman and I use that term very loosely, is a cunt.
Wow learn something new every day. I'm so glad my dad was and is an ignorant racist fuck. It woke me up and allowed me to experience the shit for myself rather than believe his sorry ass.
Thank god I did cuz i met some damn cool black (as well as other races) people. But apparently they aren't living up to their potential of being reputable pimps and hos. I will have to have a talk with them immediately. Thanks for the enlightenment. :o :o :o
Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place.
Like I said and will say again is all of you can come back and tell me how you feel after getting assaulted in a hate crime with a cane and have three or whatever amount of black security guards doing absolutely NOTHING to help you while you are bleeding profusely and then have all these black people laughing as you lay there getting treated and immobilized by EMS so they can take you to the emergency room.
And then you find out your attacker,at most, will get only two months jail time.
Now if you think that is racist,well, I rather be racist than be psycologically and physically abused.
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Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place. . .
You posted this once already Mr. Muldoon, sir.
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Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place. . .
You posted this once already Mr. Muldoon, sir.
I was having computer problems. Oh well, just sue me!
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I was having computer problems. Oh well, just sue me!
Good idea, I think I will.
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Kelly,if you had the same amount of other knowledge as you do tech knowledge,then the world would be a better place.
Like I said and will say to everyne is tell me when you get assaulted with a cane and three or whatever amount of security people do absolutely nothing to help you and all these black people are laughing as they immobilize you and take you off to the emergency room on a stretcher and you think yd out. ou might go unconscious.
I don't think that's racist but for whoever does, then I will say Well, I rather be racist than be subjected to psycological and physical abuse.
Michael first let me say, I believe being racist and prejudice are far different. My dad definitely racist. KKK sheet wearing type...feels black people are inferior because he was raised that way.
It appears as if you might be prejudiced based on a traumatic experience in your life.
There is a huge difference between the 2. I guess to assume someone is racist without any knowledge is just as bad something based on the color of one's skin.
I am curious though of 2 things.
1. What if you could not have proven it was a hate crime, hypothetically, no proof just 3 black guys that did something violent and stupid. DO you believe you would feel different?
2. What if they had been YOUR race, would you feel this way about your own race?
No one went through exactly what you did but you aren't alone. I was the dumb white girl who used to hang out in south east dc at 16. I've seen people get stabbed, I saw someone get shot once in the face, that memory is imprinted on my mind for life. The image will never go away. I myself have been assaulted by someone black and someone white. More than once but yet on a much smaller scale. It still made me abit intimidated around men (all men) for a period of time. I had a very good black friend who is dead because of 2 other careless black guys who had guns and felt it was their right to kill. Yet they don't t represent my dead black friend they represent 2 criminals who deserve to go to jail.
I can't say I would NOT have reacted the way you are I have no way of knowing that, but thankfully I already hated prejudice so much and had some very good friends who were not white, that it wasn't even a consideration the times i was assaulted. Or the times I witnessed some of these events. It wasn't about color, it was about people treating each other like shit and no one really giving a fuck what color you were. If some smart ass black guy came up to the 3 guys who hurt you, talkin shit, do you think they'd let him slide cuz he was black? I doubt it, they sound like some angry fucked up individuals. and it sucks that you had to go through that. They just don't represent millions of people.
You have the right to feel the way you do I wouldn't begin to say otherwise. I myself feel lucky i was in the situation i was in. I could have otherwise ended up with a different perspective. So I don't think you're without reason, nor do I think you should get over it and move on. I'm just trying to throw out some perspective, there are other options it may just be hard to see that right now.
I think you're a great guy and you've been through a lot of shit. I don't judge you for how you are reacting to a trauma in your life. But if you open up some conversation about it and allow me the chance I will try to give you what little perspective I may have.
That's all I'm tryin to do now. For what it's worth. I think this is the first time i've even replied to a post of yours we've only emailed. but it caught my attention so I was curious to see where it was coming from and what was going on. I will say my initial comment was sarcastic, I tend to come off that way for a few different reasons in this case I honestly didn't now what your reaction would be and didn't want to just come off like i was telling you what you need to do. How could I possibly, only you really know that. But I do apologize that was insensitive and you've always been very respectful towards me.
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A black guy walks into a bar with a beautiful parrot on his shoulder. "Wow," says the bartender. "That is really something. Where'd you get it?"
"Africa," says the parrot.
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Q: How do you start a black parade?
A: Roll a 40 down the street.
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Q: How did they improve the transportation in Harlem?
A: Moved the trees closer together.
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Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place. . .
You posted this once already Mr. Muldoon, sir.
I was having computer problems. Oh well, just sue me!
You know for some reason it doesnt bother me. lol :) I mean there could be worse things lol :)
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Q: How did they improve the transportation in Harlem?
A: Moved the trees closer together.
at least my dads were funny.
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Q: How do you start a black parade?
A: Roll a 40 down the street.
:rofl:
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Q: How do you start a black parade?
A: Roll a 40 down the street.
:rofl:
I'm watching you.
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Q: How do you start a black parade?
A: Roll a 40 down the street.
:rofl:
Hope you held out and got paid well to laugh. You deserve it. Quite the challenge.
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Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place. . .
You posted this once already Mr. Muldoon, sir.
I was having computer problems. Oh well, just sue me!
You know for some reason it doesnt bother me. lol :) I mean there could be worse things lol :)
BuzzKill must be right, prayer helps. I prayed that Kelly's next post post would make a little sense and it did.
Too bad it took so long.
Anyhow,if it wasn't a hate crime,I would not have had the same reaction. You see, for example,if someone robs you regardless of color,that is not pleasant but it is different than when someone says TAKE THIS HONKEY,ETC,while getting maimed with a cane. And all the blacks just laughed. They did it not for money,not for a material possession, but for the blood of a white person.
Nonetheless Kelly, I am gonna try to help you, I am gonna beg Ginger to create a forum dedicated to people helping you get a brain, I am gonna ask Buzzkill to pray for you, I am gonna ask Exhausted if The U.K is any better than America in dealing with your stupidity, and I am gonna ask Deborah to do research to see if she can come up with anyway to help you gain intelligence and common sense.
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Kelly,if you had the same amount of other knowledge as you do tech knowledge,then the world would be a better place.
Like I said and will say to everyne is tell me when you get assaulted with a cane and three or whatever amount of security people do absolutely nothing to help you and all these black people are laughing as they immobilize you and take you off to the emergency room on a stretcher and you think yd out. ou might go unconscious.
I don't think that's racist but for whoever does, then I will say Well, I rather be racist than be subjected to psycological and physical abuse.
Michael first let me say, I believe being racist and prejudice are far different. My dad definitely racist. KKK sheet wearing type...feels black people are inferior because he was raised that way.
It appears as if you might be prejudiced based on a traumatic experience in your life.
There is a huge difference between the 2. I guess to assume someone is racist without any knowledge is just as bad something based on the color of one's skin.
I am curious though of 2 things.
1. What if you could not have proven it was a hate crime, hypothetically, no proof just 3 black guys that did something violent and stupid. DO you believe you would feel different?
2. What if they had been YOUR race, would you feel this way about your own race?
No one went through exactly what you did but you aren't alone. I was the dumb white girl who used to hang out in south east dc at 16. I've seen people get stabbed, I saw someone get shot once in the face, that memory is imprinted on my mind for life. The image will never go away. I myself have been assaulted by someone black and someone white. More than once but yet on a much smaller scale. It still made me abit intimidated around men (all men) for a period of time. I had a very good black friend who is dead because of 2 other careless black guys who had guns and felt it was their right to kill. Yet they don't t represent my dead black friend they represent 2 criminals who deserve to go to jail.
I can't say I would NOT have reacted the way you are I have no way of knowing that, but thankfully I already hated prejudice so much and had some very good friends who were not white, that it wasn't even a consideration the times i was assaulted. Or the times I witnessed some of these events. It wasn't about color, it was about people treating each other like shit and no one really giving a fuck what color you were. If some smart ass black guy came up to the 3 guys who hurt you, talkin shit, do you think they'd let him slide cuz he was black? I doubt it, they sound like some angry fucked up individuals. and it sucks that you had to go through that. They just don't represent millions of people.
You have the right to feel the way you do I wouldn't begin to say otherwise. I myself feel lucky i was in the situation i was in. I could have otherwise ended up with a different perspective. So I don't think you're without reason, nor do I think you should get over it and move on. I'm just trying to throw out some perspective, there are other options it may just be hard to see that right now.
I think you're a great guy and you've been through a lot of shit. I don't judge you for how you are reacting to a trauma in your life. But if you open up some conversation about it and allow me the chance I will try to give you what little perspective I may have.
That's all I'm tryin to do now. For what it's worth. I think this is the first time i've even replied to a post of yours we've only emailed. but it caught my attention so I was curious to see where it was coming from and what was going on. I will say my initial comment was sarcastic, I tend to come off that way for a few different reasons in this case I honestly didn't now what your reaction would be and didn't want to just come off like i was telling you what you need to do. How could I possibly, only you really know that. But I do apologize that was insensitive and you've always been very respectful towards me.
To answer your question, no I would not have acted the same way if it was white on white or also black on black,My situation was THAT IT WAS A HATE CRIME.
And you are right,IT WAS ME WHO GOT ASSAULTED,NOT YOU.
Although if it did happen to you,the damage would have been less because your head is so hard to get through,probably would have been glancing blows to your head.
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Quit your bitchin' and get back in the kitchen lady. Seriously Michelle you aren't the only one in this world who has gotten her ass kicked for calling some dude's mom a bitch.
WTF did you expect a high five and a pat on the back?
Welcome to the streets sister.
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Yeah,I called her a bitch. How many times did she call me honkey,white trash, throw bleach into my apartment? Countless!You say it's street to assault someone with a cane but it's not street to retaliate to the above things.
That wouild be like a parent sending their child to TB for missing curfew by 15 minutes or something!
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Kelly, if you had knowledge in other areas like you do tech,the world would be a better place. . .
You posted this once already Mr. Muldoon, sir.
I was having computer problems. Oh well, just sue me!
You know for some reason it doesnt bother me. lol :) I mean there could be worse things lol :)
BuzzKill must be right, prayer helps. I prayed that Kelly's next post post would make a little sense and it did.
Too bad it took so long.
Anyhow,if it wasn't a hate crime,I would not have had the same reaction. You see, for example,if someone robs you regardless of color,that is not pleasant but it is different than when someone says TAKE THIS HONKEY,ETC,while getting maimed with a cane. And all the blacks just laughed. They did it not for money,not for a material possession, but for the blood of a white person.
Nonetheless Kelly, I am gonna try to help you, I am gonna beg Ginger to create a forum dedicated to people helping you get a brain, I am gonna ask Buzzkill to pray for you, I am gonna ask Exhausted if The U.K is any better than America in dealing with your stupidity, and I am gonna ask Deborah to do research to see if she can come up with anyway to help you gain intelligence and common sense.
I don't even know you, but I can tell by this post that you are an asshole.
I read what webdiva wrote to you and she spoke to you with respect and honesty, and this is your reply? If you didn't agree with what she said, no problem, but when you come back with shit like this, makes me think that you derserved to get your ass kicked.
You called some lady a bitch and told her to get back in her kitchen?
Wake up Michael Muldoon, this wasn't a hate crime where they attacked for being white, they attacked you because you're an asshole. :roll:
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Yeah,I called her a bitch. How many times did she call me honkey,white trash, throw bleach into my apartment? Countless!You say it's street to assault someone with a cane but it's not street to retaliate to the above things.
That wouild be like a parent sending their child to TB for missing curfew by 15 minutes or something!
You aren't retaliating you are on fornits carrying on about it and painting the entire black population of America with the same skewed point of view.
No it is nothing like sending a kid to TB for missing curfew. You had options open to you that you failed to exercise. You could have called the police, but did you?
nope.
You could have asked a neighbor to help you talk to the lady. Did you?
Doesn't sound like it.
Did you actually take the time to try and talk to the person? More than likely she is a crazy old bat who has a history of mental illness and there you are getting in a cussing match with her. Over bleach being thrown into your apartment, close your door more often, and you being called a honkey. Really smart there cheetoh.. ever hear of sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me?
In the eyes of your neighbors you are a honkey, and you live in the biggest shit hole in the world so yeah in most people's eyes you do live like poor white trash. And after you called the lady a bitch you certainly did a great job of acting like one to.
You have two choices as far as I can tell. 1 you can go find the son and kick his ass, which I whole heartedly endorsed and a means of regaining you lost cojones. I say kick his ass not because he is black, but because he bent you over a rail and humiliated you and made you feel like a little bitch. 2 you move to some place where you aren't surrounded by the dreaded black horde so that you won't have to worry about paying taxes to support the lazy black man. You have a had a steady job for how long now? You won't have to worry about those damn darkies stealing and raping your girlfriend. You have a girlfriend right? You won't have to worry about those black devils devaluing your property. You own a house right?
Or you can just drop the loser KKK attitude that is total self defeating and completely useless in dealing with your ongoing problem.
Either way don't paint all blacks with the same tainted off white color you are showing us.
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MULDOON IS TROLLING.
And it's working very well.
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Although if it did happen to you,the damage would have been less because your head is so hard to get through,probably would have been glancing blows to your head.
Like I said it has happened to me and you know nothing of the circumstances you only assume. But that's fine figured you were open to someone sharing a different perspective I was unaware this JUST happened to you. Not psychic these days. Pardon me for giving a damn I'll try not to let it happen again.
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First off,I did not tell her to get back in the kitchen,that was TSW being sarcastic.
Second of all,you all are clueless fucks! Fuck you all! I am done with you all, you won't have to worry abut debating with my ignorant ass no more.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES! ALL OF YOU!
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First off,I did not tell her to get back in the kitchen,that was TSW being sarcastic.
Second of all,you all are clueless fucks! Fuck you all! I am done with you all, you won't have to worry abut debating with my ignorant ass no more.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES! ALL OF YOU!
You are correct we are ALL clueless including YOU when it comes to how someone ELSE deals with personal trauma. No way we could possibly know. The only thing most friends attempt to do is offer a bit of perspective and advice and try not to judge. Obviously my attempt failed, I tried, I'm sorry you're going through what you are and I hope you get through it as painlessly as possible. Take care.
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I just wanted to say something that Michael has missed out in his anger at trying to get his point across
michael has endured many many years of torture from these people, his mother was neary blinded when they threw bleach in her face, he rarely sleeps through the constant banging on the door day & night with threats and shouting.
When Michael was attacked it was a vicious assaut that could have killed him - it was a racial attack against him, and it went to court, the woman who handed the cane to the young man was not given a restraining order although she was inciting racial hatred, she gave the young man the weapon and told him to hit the white trash, to kill him
I feel that michael is upset by the fact that the courts were not concerned at all by what had happened, and he feels that if he had taken a cane and smashed a black person's head in with it while calling him a nigger, then he would have been dealt with differently, it would then have been dealt with as a racial attack - he also questioned why the courts felt it was different for them - with no joy.
Since then Michael has suffered torment and threats from his attackers, i agree that being black does not make you a bad person, but people like this and your countrie's inadequate justice system does tend to incite racial hatred on its own
Remember, michael is just one of many victims who cannot shout "Thats racism"
because he is white
- Exhausted
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Thanks for posting that, exhausted.
And yes our justice system is skewed in many ways, it's fucked....
Again, thanks for speaking up on his behalf.
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First off,I did not tell her to get back in the kitchen,that was TSW being sarcastic.
Second of all,you all are clueless fucks! Fuck you all! I am done with you all, you won't have to worry abut debating with my ignorant ass no more.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES! ALL OF YOU!
You are correct we are ALL clueless including YOU when it comes to how someone ELSE deals with personal trauma. No way we could possibly know. The only thing most friends attempt to do is offer a bit of perspective and advice and try not to judge. Obviously my attempt failed, I tried, I'm sorry you're going through what you are and I hope you get through it as painlessly as possible. Take care.
Well, I have never made a post like that before, I would think well, Michael must have went through a real fucker of an experience.
Do you think I just woke up and said,let me start a thread on Fornits about race relations?
Instead you immediately brand me a racist.
For the record, I do not feel anything I posted was racial at all. If you want to say the last thing about them being shot execution style, I was pissed and I meant all races in that situation.
One last thing, you don't know me, on my MySpace Page, friend number one is Sarai, Sarai is Puerto Rican, friend number two is Gina, Sarai's sister,also Puerto Rican, Third is Naomi, Also Puerto Rican,known those three since 1992.Friend number four is Candace,Voila! Black! Known her since 1996.
You were on my Myspace page,so you saw that.
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I am sick and tired of all these Blacks thinking that Whites owe them.They are in America with their twenty five kids from fifteen different men,they clogg up the welfare lines,etc.
unfounded racist bullshit and stereotyping[/b]
If a black person commits a hate crime like what happened to me,he/she gets a fucking ten days or whatever in jail.If a white person commits a hate crime,he/she goes to jail for ages.
we call this stereotyping and racism for a reason.
And I don't care what color you are,any person who has any kind of a brain should agree with me.
so anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid?
Blacks like to say they are up against it all the time,how about the nonsense where a white person can't get into an elite school because that school excepts a lower performing black student to meet a racial quota?
Have you even spent an entire year in University yet? So where the hell do you get off making this kind of claim? Let's back up your absurd horse shit with actual statistics in the future.
Granted,black people have it harder than white people but the gap is not as big as so many believe.
I have all the respect in the world for any race who works their ass off and doesn't look to blame other race or races everytime something doesn't go the way they had hoped.
Everyone in the world is guilty of this one. You make some of the same sort of comments your self in regards to affirmative action and welfare.
Blacks like to bring up Slavery,the civil rights movement,etc. They say all whites were racist,etc.
They probably bring it up as much as we whine about them bringing it up.
Well, my message to Blacks is the next time you see a white person,you could see a person who's anchestors were racists but at the same time you might very well see a white person who's anchestors marched right alongside DR. Martin Luther King JR. himself and/or even could not get into a hotel with their BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
Oh yes invoke the power of Dr. Marty Luther King to affirm the rest of your absurd racist bullshit. Nice try going for an appeal to my emotions. Baaa whahahha... Oh poor lilly white boy got his ass kicked by some crazy fucker.. oh no! Get over yourself kid.
It is truly so sad that the people who know the least about black history are Blacks themselves.
I think Martin Luther King JR. would be bothered by that .I also think he would be bothered by the ignorance of Blacks today just as much as he was by the ignorance of Whites decades ago.
Blacks and other races who live their lives without ignorance, those are the ones who I wish all the success in the world too,the ones who don't,well they could all be lined up and shot execution style and I would not shed a tear.
Interesting you make an attempt to claim you aren't racist but you then in the same breath advocate shooting everyone who doesn't see your point of view. That is by the very definition what we call narrow minded and bigoted.
Put on klan hat boy cause this is why people think you are being a racist asshole. Had you focused on the attack you might have gotten better results. Instead you went off on some stereotypical rant of the sort that could be found on most Neo-nazi forums.
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if what other people have posted is true and you and your family have been assaulted where you live more than once, why you are still living there?
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Remember, michael is just one of many victims who cannot shout "Thats racism"
because he is white
- Exhausted
"Racism is an ism to which everyone in the world today is exposed; for or against, we must take sides. And the history of the future will differ according to the decision which we make."
Ruth Benedict
"Racists are irrational and illogical in their attempts to justify their prejudices."
"No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them."
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if what other people have posted is true and you and your family have been assaulted where you live more than once, why you are still living there?
Only now that he has been so viciously attcked, have the housing peple tken notice, he has been trying to get out for a long time due to the unsanitory conditions and lack of safety, important things like a window that wont shut & a toilet tht doesnt flush and a constantly leaking roof ... these thinngs have not been inportnat in the past as far as his landlords are concerned, now he has been given options to move but this can take several months
The social worker gave him leaflets on wat to do as a refugee for crying out loud! He is a US citizen, none of it applies to him
Michael is in real danger of becning an agorophobic through all of this, he is frightened, whether the attacker was black or white, the end result would be the same, he is afraid to go out of the house ... yet these ppl are still alowed to torment him daily, none of the agencies are being particularly helpful, your system is just diabolical and if it were me in his istuation I would feel the same, no matter who my attacker was.
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Where does he live, exactly?
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Would he be calling white people crackers and afraid of the whole race?
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Would he be calling white people crackers and afraid of the whole race?
Where did he refer to anyone as a nigger?
And let's let some black dude split your fuckin skull open & see if YOU aren't a little skittish around blacks...eh?
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Easy there tiger. ::bwahaha:: I wasn't being critical, I was asking a question.
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if what other people have posted is true and you and your family have been assaulted where you live more than once, why you are still living there?
Only now that he has been so viciously attcked, have the housing peple tken notice, he has been trying to get out for a long time due to the unsanitory conditions and lack of safety, important things like a window that wont shut & a toilet tht doesnt flush and a constantly leaking roof ... these thinngs have not been inportnat in the past as far as his landlords are concerned, now he has been given options to move but this can take several months
The social worker gave him leaflets on wat to do as a refugee for crying out loud! He is a US citizen, none of it applies to him
Michael is in real danger of becning an agorophobic through all of this, he is frightened, whether the attacker was black or white, the end result would be the same, he is afraid to go out of the house ... yet these ppl are still alowed to torment him daily, none of the agencies are being particularly helpful, your system is just diabolical and if it were me in his istuation I would feel the same, no matter who my attacker was.
Who are you and why exactly are you speaking for " Michael" ?
This is weird in and of itself
So now we know that " Michael" lives in a shit hole and can't afford to move because, well who knows why, but because of those reasons it's the systems fault?
Here is an idea. Don't be an asshole to other people and maybe you won't get your ass kicked. I know, I know, it seems like a radical idea but it's worked before on studies that have been conducted on rats.
But maybe " michael" won't like this idea and will stay where he's at and just keep getting more of the same.
If all else fails " Michael" could try and sue someone, like maybe the landlord, or better yet, someone involved in government. Yeah, that sounds like it might work!
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I just wanted to say something that Michael has missed out in his anger at trying to get his point across
michael has endured many many years of torture from these people, his mother was neary blinded when they threw bleach in her face, he rarely sleeps through the constant banging on the door day & night with threats and shouting.
When Michael was attacked it was a vicious assaut that could have killed him - it was a racial attack against him, and it went to court, the woman who handed the cane to the young man was not given a restraining order although she was inciting racial hatred, she gave the young man the weapon and told him to hit the white trash, to kill him
I feel that michael is upset by the fact that the courts were not concerned at all by what had happened, and he feels that if he had taken a cane and smashed a black person's head in with it while calling him a nigger, then he would have been dealt with differently, it would then have been dealt with as a racial attack - he also questioned why the courts felt it was different for them - with no joy.
Since then Michael has suffered torment and threats from his attackers, i agree that being black does not make you a bad person, but people like this and your countrie's inadequate justice system does tend to incite racial hatred on its own
Remember, michael is just one of many victims who cannot shout "Thats racism"
because he is white
- Exhausted
You'd think that this post would've precluded posts like the anon posts on this page, but no.....
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I wasn't being critical, I was asking a question.
Oh, you weren't? Bullshit....
I'm asking YOU a couple of questions:
Where did he refer to anyone as a nigger?
And let's let some black dude split your fuckin skull open & see if YOU aren't a little skittish around blacks...eh?
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Well, I'm telling YOU to fuck off!
::fuckoff:: ::unhappy:: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I just wanted to say something that Michael has missed out in his anger at trying to get his point across
michael has endured many many years of torture from these people, his mother was neary blinded when they threw bleach in her face, he rarely sleeps through the constant banging on the door day & night with threats and shouting.
When Michael was attacked it was a vicious assaut that could have killed him - it was a racial attack against him, and it went to court, the woman who handed the cane to the young man was not given a restraining order although she was inciting racial hatred, she gave the young man the weapon and told him to hit the white trash, to kill him
I feel that michael is upset by the fact that the courts were not concerned at all by what had happened, and he feels that if he had taken a cane and smashed a black person's head in with it while calling him a nigger, then he would have been dealt with differently, it would then have been dealt with as a racial attack - he also questioned why the courts felt it was different for them - with no joy.
Since then Michael has suffered torment and threats from his attackers, i agree that being black does not make you a bad person, but people like this and your countrie's inadequate justice system does tend to incite racial hatred on its own
Remember, michael is just one of many victims who cannot shout "Thats racism"
because he is white
- Exhausted
You'd think that this post would've precluded posts like the anon posts on this page, but no.....
It would have come sooner but I've been busy, you know how it is :lol:
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You'd think that this post would've precluded posts like the anon posts on this page, but no.....
It would have come sooner but I've been busy, you know how it is :lol:
pre·clude
1. to prevent the presence, existence, or occurrence of; make impossible: The insufficiency of the evidence precludes a conviction.
2. to exclude or debar from something: His physical disability precludes an athletic career for him.
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What's your point?
:rofl:
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Would he be calling white people crackers and afraid of the whole race?
Where did he refer to anyone as a nigger?
And let's let some black dude split your fuckin skull open & see if YOU aren't a little skittish around blacks...eh?
I'd think he be skittish around people who were waving canes at him in a threatening manner no matter what the skin colour. Also what does it matter if he did or didn't use the word Nigger? To utter such a term is merely one manifestation of racism.
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You'd think that this post would've precluded posts like the anon posts on this page, but no.....
It would have come sooner but I've been busy, you know how it is :lol:
pre·clude
1. to prevent the presence, existence, or occurrence of; make impossible: The insufficiency of the evidence precludes a conviction.
2. to exclude or debar from something: His physical disability precludes an athletic career for him.
So you have a dictionary....ok Frod....
I don't want to insult you but.....whatever.. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Same to ya. ::both::
Sorry to make ya look as dumb as you are, just trying to keep it real. :rofl:
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if what other people have posted is true and you and your family have been assaulted where you live more than once, why you are still living there?
Only now that he has been so viciously attcked, have the housing peple tken notice, he has been trying to get out for a long time due to the unsanitory conditions and lack of safety, important things like a window that wont shut & a toilet tht doesnt flush and a constantly leaking roof ... these thinngs have not been inportnat in the past as far as his landlords are concerned, now he has been given options to move but this can take several months
The social worker gave him leaflets on wat to do as a refugee for crying out loud! He is a US citizen, none of it applies to him
Michael is in real danger of becning an agorophobic through all of this, he is frightened, whether the attacker was black or white, the end result would be the same, he is afraid to go out of the house ... yet these ppl are still alowed to torment him daily, none of the agencies are being particularly helpful, your system is just diabolical and if it were me in his istuation I would feel the same, no matter who my attacker was.
Who are you and why exactly are you speaking for " Michael" ?
This is weird in and of itself
So now we know that " Michael" lives in a shit hole and can't afford to move because, well who knows why, but because of those reasons it's the systems fault?
Here is an idea. Don't be an asshole to other people and maybe you won't get your ass kicked. I know, I know, it seems like a radical idea but it's worked before on studies that have been conducted on rats.
But maybe " michael" won't like this idea and will stay where he's at and just keep getting more of the same.
If all else fails " Michael" could try and sue someone, like maybe the landlord, or better yet, someone involved in government. Yeah, that sounds like it might work!
I'm sorry I didnt log in, that was my post above - Exhausted.
I am speaking for Michael (which is his real name incidentally) because he is not getting his point across through sheer frustration and anger and pain
he did not piss anyone off in order to be beaten in such a brutal manner, okay I wasn't there of course but he is not that type of person....he has had many years of hell from these peope and maybe he did bite back, everyone has a tolerance level that only goes so far, his has been we & truly stretched, this was the final straw.
Yes you're right, government intervention and suing the landlords is underway, but that does not take away what has happened to him already - the damage has been done mentally
As for why society has let him down, oh if only you knew! He should have been taken out of that shit hole years ago, this was just waiting to happen, the reason his mother had bleach thrown in her face is because he complianed to the landlord about the constant harrassment day & night, the banging on the doors, the death threats, the constant mental torture (a bit like living in a program for a kid I guess) yet no-one took any notice.
A social worker who gives a US citizen advice on how to be housed as a refugee is a small example of how your system sucks, the fact that only non whites can pull the race card is another example when this was clearly a racial attack - Michael is not anti black, he is anti black person smashing his head in, as he would be anti anyone smashing his head in.
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Let's step outside ourselves for a moment and reflect on the changes that have occurred since the days of our various programs shall we? Big hair is no longer the rage, cell phones are no longer the size of hair dryers, and computers were to the 90's what Color TV was in the '60's.
School-kids traded in their Walkmans for handguns
and the music is not about getting high, so much as it is about running your mouth about how tough you are, and how many ho's you can impregnate with your illiterate genes.
Families rarely eat dinner together anymore unless it is at a restaurant. People with good jobs are working far too many hours overtime, while young frustrated adults scream for training and opportunities against the deaf ear of U.S. Industry. Values are viewed as 'weakness' and held in contempt. We witnessed large aircraft fly
into the two tallest buildings in America and some still question whether it was real or just an elaborate set up to plunge our country into war
for the "good of the economy." For the icing on the cake, we were presented with yet another Space Shuttle Accident. I don't let the posts of others get me down that much, but I can say, that lately this forum has strayed into the fringes of the Twilight Zone. The main thing is that this is what makes America what it is, a bunch of grab astic pieces of amphibian shit shooting off their mouths and seeking attention and gratification. People may miss my earlier "Tales of Epic Adventure" from my early days in the Milton Roy Building, but for now I only write like that if I have a flash-back and lemme tell ya, its hard to have a flash-back when all you see in here is the same tired lame-ass bullshit. What it all boils down to is that we have nothing but ourselves to blame.
As far as the Black/White thing goes, it took me moving to another state to gain a much needed fresher perspective of the situation. All I can honestly say is this: in the state of Tennessee, Black folks are more white than white people are in Pinellas Park Florida!!!!
They know how to act, and embrace GOOD music, mainly Memphis Blues. The only time you hear thumping Ghetto trash music is when some ignorant dumbass hillbilly wannabe Gangsta Asshole drives by in his piece of shit Nissan JitterBoogie Mobile, go figure, thousands of hours of MTV shit music programing has finally paid off and it is erroding white middle class trailer Jethro Retardville just like the "commie hippie propaganda" of the early 70's helped "seed"
the juvenile drug treatment hysteria we all fell victim to.
If you are not behind bars, then that must mean you are a free man.
If you have to resort to blaming others for your misfortunes, then the bars are of your own goddamn making and I would appreciate you putting your mouth on mute and try and think your way into a better way to live.
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Dude youth violence, like youth trying to impregnate folks with illiterate genes, is down to the lowest it's ever been. Blacks created blues, and Ghetto music, like punk, is both high art and highly commodified by deep pockets that care more about the image then the music.
So please get a clue.....
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if what other people have posted is true and you and your family have been assaulted where you live more than once, why you are still living there?
Only now that he has been so viciously attcked, have the housing peple tken notice, he has been trying to get out for a long time due to the unsanitory conditions and lack of safety, important things like a window that wont shut & a toilet tht doesnt flush and a constantly leaking roof ... these thinngs have not been inportnat in the past as far as his landlords are concerned, now he has been given options to move but this can take several months
The social worker gave him leaflets on wat to do as a refugee for crying out loud! He is a US citizen, none of it applies to him
Michael is in real danger of becning an agorophobic through all of this, he is frightened, whether the attacker was black or white, the end result would be the same, he is afraid to go out of the house ... yet these ppl are still alowed to torment him daily, none of the agencies are being particularly helpful, your system is just diabolical and if it were me in his istuation I would feel the same, no matter who my attacker was.
Who are you and why exactly are you speaking for " Michael" ?
This is weird in and of itself
So now we know that " Michael" lives in a shit hole and can't afford to move because, well who knows why, but because of those reasons it's the systems fault?
Here is an idea. Don't be an asshole to other people and maybe you won't get your ass kicked. I know, I know, it seems like a radical idea but it's worked before on studies that have been conducted on rats.
But maybe " michael" won't like this idea and will stay where he's at and just keep getting more of the same.
If all else fails " Michael" could try and sue someone, like maybe the landlord, or better yet, someone involved in government. Yeah, that sounds like it might work!
I'm sorry I didnt log in, that was my post above - Exhausted.
I am speaking for Michael (which is his real name incidentally) because he is not getting his point across through sheer frustration and anger and pain
he did not piss anyone off in order to be beaten in such a brutal manner, okay I wasn't there of course but he is not that type of person....he has had many years of hell from these peope and maybe he did bite back, everyone has a tolerance level that only goes so far, his has been we & truly stretched, this was the final straw.
Yes you're right, government intervention and suing the landlords is underway, but that does not take away what has happened to him already - the damage has been done mentally
As for why society has let him down, oh if only you knew! He should have been taken out of that shit hole years ago, this was just waiting to happen, the reason his mother had bleach thrown in her face is because he complianed to the landlord about the constant harrassment day & night, the banging on the doors, the death threats, the constant mental torture (a bit like living in a program for a kid I guess) yet no-one took any notice.
A social worker who gives a US citizen advice on how to be housed as a refugee(Katrina?[/i]) is a small example of how your system sucks, the fact that only non whites can pull the race card(Not true[/i]) is another example when this was clearly a racial attack(No that would not make the attack a racial one, even if it was true[/i]) - Michael is not anti black, he is anti black person smashing his head in, as he would be anti anyone smashing his head in.
No exhausted you got this one wrong, he's not being treated like crap by the government and his landlord because he's white... It's because he's poor that no one gives a damn, it's worse if you've also been to jail. What he's going through is what blacks usually go through. You complain about dangerous living conditions and get ignored until something so horrible happens they can't ignore you, like that gangrape and beating of that boy and his mother recently reported in the news.
It's true that blacks generally face more racism then whites and thus race often becomes a part of many issue faced by blacks. But you're wrong if you think Blacks can't be tried for race crimes, they can and should be. Don't mistake the media calling a crime a hate crime as opposed to what the law says.
I would suggest looking at what your state laws are regarding hate crimes. Some states can take racism into consideration during sentencing, others actually try cases as a hate crime. Depending on what the law says it could be difficult to prove that a crime was racially motivated.
EDIT: I have to add also that Blacks account for the highest number of hate crime victims and offenders(usually against other blacks), while I'm not sure if I agree with that assessment, it shows that blacks are not being given special protection against prosecution for hate crimes.
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Dude youth violence, like youth trying to impregnate folks with illiterate genes, is down to the lowest it's ever been. Blacks created blues, and Ghetto music, like punk, is both high art and highly commodified by deep pockets that care more about the image then the music.
So please get a clue.....
I agree get a clue.
Show me where punk music is related to ghetto. That,in itself is insulting.Nothing worse than the image created for these "hiphop stars".these are not stars,nor are they talented.plus what they represent to our youth is beyond criminal.
Wake up
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Hi Hanzomon, long time no speak :D
I don't live in the US, but the laws in the Uk are pretty rubbish when it comes to dealing with race.....if youre British White, you generally cannot argue that you are a victim of a race hate campaign or asault as in Michaels case, ethnic minority workers often don't do any work claijming they are made to do the rubbish jobs beause they are black, for example, a friend of mine is going through college so stacks shelevs at a superarket, there is a woman there who is also a shelf stacker, she refuses to do it on the grounds that she is being made to do it because she is black, and she gets away with it because the management cannot aford for her to say they are racist, the guy I know is white and british born, he got really fed up with doing her job so asked to be paid her wages, which was denied, so he took her stance and spent every night for a week screaming around the shop shouting "you're making me do this becaue Im white" he was sacked for not doing the job he was contracted to do
I happen to know a manger at Asda (Walmart over there) and he says this sort of thing is commonplace and they DO use the race card all the time
As for racial attacks, that happnes alot here, where backs kil or attack whites, i don't think there is one case that it has been oput down to a racial attack....the whole thing stinks imo
Exhausted
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Hi Hanzomon, long time no speak :D
I don't live in the US, but the laws in the Uk are pretty rubbish when it comes to dealing with race.....if youre British White, you generally cannot argue that you are a victim of a race hate campaign or asault as in Michaels case, ethnic minority workers often don't do any work claijming they are made to do the rubbish jobs beause they are black, for example, a friend of mine is going through college so stacks shelevs at a superarket, there is a woman there who is also a shelf stacker, she refuses to do it on the grounds that she is being made to do it because she is black, and she gets away with it because the management cannot aford for her to say they are racist, the guy I know is white and british born, he got really fed up with doing her job so asked to be paid her wages, which was denied, so he took her stance and spent every night for a week screaming around the shop shouting "you're making me do this becaue Im white" he was sacked for not doing the job he was contracted to do
I happen to know a manger at Asda (Walmart over there) and he says this sort of thing is commonplace and they DO use the race card all the time
As for racial attacks, that happnes alot here, where backs kil or attack whites, i don't think there is one case that it has been oput down to a racial attack....the whole thing stinks imo
Exhausted
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Stinks of someones tainted pussy juice for sure.
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You're doing the Julie thing Exhausted :lol:
What you describe stinks, I've never heard of anything that ridiculous. Thats not how it is in the States. I never knew UK had a race problem like in the States I thought you all just got along. Being poor is what gets you fucked here, while Blacks are generally looked down upon, poor whites get the same treatment :flame:
This world needs an enema :o
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You're not wrong Hanzomon,
Had to laugh at you thinking we just get along though, we're having major problems, humanity is turning on each other like a pack of rabid dogs......for instance at the moment the gang culture is way way out of hand, we're gettng reports of at least 2 children a week being stabbed or shot, just because, last week an 11 year old was shot while playing football, by a 16 year old on a bycicle! no reasons, he just did.....week before a young black male was killed because he refused to become part of a gang, the biggest problem is the wall of silence - everyone's too scared to say anyhting and why wouldn't they be? Would you speak up against someone who's willing to just go kill an innocent 11 year old in order to gain status?
Maybe it's children like these who do need programs, what's jail going to do for them apart from remove them from what they have done? Take them away from the consequence so they don't have to see it, how does that teach them anything?
What's the Julie thing? :question:
Exhausted :P
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I'll ignore the program suggestion at the end....
You may want to look at crime statistics to see if youth violence is really high compared to other generations. In the US they paint youth as monsters but all data suggest that we are the saints of America in comparison to other generations.
Julie is the parent who never signs in and signs her post as "Julie" at the end. I always saw it as the Julie thing because only she did it regularly.
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I'll ignore the program suggestion at the end....
You may want to look at crime statistics to see if youth violence is really high compared to other generations. In the US they paint youth as monsters but all data suggest that we are the saints of America in comparison to other generations.
Julie is the parent who never signs in and signs her post as "Julie" at the end. I always saw it as the Julie thing because only she did it regularly.
Hmmm...I dunno, maybe a bit of pace is required for these kids, I don't mean go to a program to be abused, as you well know, I am not anti program, I am anti program abuse, if these programs could work properly with these kids we might see that some of them actually do need it, bit like those who train animals by beating them into it, sure it works, but then so does my method of training by reward and lots of affection.
We've neevr really had a gang culture to speak of, there was the mods and rockers using fists etc, but nothing like these al American gang warfare culture that's going on now, and definitely not guns, I was horrified when kids started carrying knives - that was a stab or be stabbed situation, I'd say violent crime has definitely gone up and child killing child ......well we rarely rarely had a case of this, now its a weekly occurence, scary
Exhausted (sorry i'm just too lazy)
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I thought it was illegal to own/sell a guns in the UK :o
These crimes happen in high poverty areas or have poverty rates risen? These things affect crime the most, although when it comes to youth it must be because they're insane and need a whoppin :roll:
But take it from us in the states Residntial treatment after decades is still as abusive as ever. We only became appalled after the fact, before that we say that things have gotten better then it was in the past, it's like a joke we never get. You don't get love when folks think you're crazy and if you're troubled you must be crazy.
Let me ask has this happened yet: The youth are out of control because all that rap music, it's the devil I tell ya... The devil!!!
I remember reading how Al Gore in the 80's said that the jungle beats in rock n' roll(or was it rap) would drive youth to wild sex. wtf??? Hasn't happened yet, we have less sex, but you don't hear that in our media very much. That's why I suggest you get a hold to some government crime statistics(poverty rates/trends while you're at it) before you conclude that your nation is insane. Also beware of the special interest groups that hate youth culture(they get recycled every generation) who try their hardest to demonise youth..... *whisper* These people secretly want to take over the world, like Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain... Brain
::T:: You're not lazy, you're Exhausted... Go take a nap
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No it's not how poor you are, or what area you live in - there seems to be no pattern to any of it, the kids come from all backgrounds, rich poor, nicer area's, well known bad areas, some turn out to be top lawyers despite the fact they live in a really bad area, others turn out to be hole digging, but honest decent human beings, the same applies to wealthier areas where gang culture is just as rife.
It just seems to be 'cool' to adopt this way of life, that and kids are terrified to turn down very quickly established gangs, I don't know what is going to be done about this, simply because they are now established, they just suddenly 'sprung up' - the wall of silence is there and the police can't bring anyone to justice without evidence, and none of these kids are going to give evidence against someone who is willing to kill an innocent 11 yr old in cold blood, what would you do in their place?
Guns are illegal and believe me the sentencing for anyone caught will be tough, really tough.
I don't think we blame rap or any other time of music, we tried that with the punk rockers and mods etc - most of them turned out okay despite their troubled teenhoods, it's time to look at society as a whole
1stly scrap the children's right charter, it has caused more harm thean good, kids spend their lives satying "you can't touch me, I'll sue you" this means they can hit, punch, swear, treat their parents, teachers, police or anyone else in authority how they please, knowing there is nothing these ppl can do to protect themselves because they are right, there is nothing we can do without ending up on an assault charge
we need to go back to basics!
this is JMO - families don't go out for the day together anymore and visit the zoo, kids dont go to army cadets or join chess club, they don't even sit down to eat together anymore, it's just not cool, they'd rather be hanging the streets with their friends smoking weed and putting a stamp on their status.
The devil - hmmm, do you know what I think the devil is? The internet......how many children only ever see the back of their parent's heads? with the odd mumble at them as they try to concentrate on their msn conversation? that's why i haven't been here very much, I wait until the kids are out paying, or in bed asleep, unles I'm working of course, then I set aside time for that which they know I have to do - in return I set aside time to go swimming or something they might enjoy
I'm nowhere near where I want to be with either of my boys, not even close, but for now, they are out of immediate danger of becoming gang members *Knocks on wood* and are beginning to realise it's not okay to continue their behaviour, they still do even though it's not okay but it's getting less & less thankfully and they are even considering their future careers etc, but i wouldn't say that would work for every kid either, it certainly hasn't worked for the eldest.
I don't have the answers, all I can say from personal experience is get to know your children for the poeple they are, not the people you want them to be has got to be the way to go - then draw on that
And you're right, I am still Exhausted - but I'll survive that one :wink:
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http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs07/hosb0207.pdf (http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs07/hosb0207.pdf)
Is about all i can come up with, but seeing as it is a government website I wouldn't trust its accuracy too much
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm)
Links that give you an idea to the right hand side of page
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The devil - hmmm, do you know what I think the devil is? The internet......how many children only ever see the back of their parent's heads? with the odd mumble at them as they try to concentrate on their msn conversation? that's why i haven't been here very much, I wait until the kids are out playing, or in bed asleep, unles I'm working of course, then I set aside time for that which they know I have to do - in return I set aside time to go swimming or something they might enjoy
It's truly sad to think of parents ignoring their kids like that, and I'm glad to hear that you make an effort to spend quality time with them.