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Announcements & Tech Support => Web forum hosting => Topic started by: Deborah on August 16, 2007, 02:19:58 PM

Title: Problems
Post by: Deborah on August 16, 2007, 02:19:58 PM
After you've gotten some much needed rest.........

the search function isn't working.
Searching "fire" in the HLA forum only two posts show up, both posted on 16 Aug, after the move. There should be many more containing that search term.

Or search Scheff in the Whitmore forum and you get 0 returns. You know that ain't right. Apparently nothings been posted containing her name since the latest move.
Thanks
Title: Problems
Post by: Antigen on August 16, 2007, 03:21:17 PM
Yep, noted. The best solution we have right now is to use google. Just preface your usual search terms with 'site:fornits.com' (no quotes or ticks)
Title: Re: Problems
Post by: Energizer Bunny on August 16, 2007, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: ""Deborah""
After you've gotten some much needed rest.........

the search function isn't working.
Searching "fire" in the HLA forum only two posts show up, both posted on 16 Aug, after the move. There should be many more containing that search term.

Or search Scheff in the Whitmore forum and you get 0 returns. You know that ain't right. Apparently nothings been posted containing her name since the latest move.
Thanks


yeah thanks gonna look into it!
Title: new kid says:
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on September 10, 2007, 05:55:12 PM
Am I supposed to have a drop down menu in the middle of all my Fornits pages?
Title: Re: new kid says:
Post by: webdiva on September 11, 2007, 02:01:17 AM
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
Am I supposed to have a drop down menu in the middle of all my Fornits pages?


LOL well where does it lead? what odes it say?
Title: Re: new kid says:
Post by: webdiva on September 11, 2007, 02:02:35 AM
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
Am I supposed to have a drop down menu in the middle of all my Fornits pages?

there is a JUMP TO pull down menu that shows up when replying to a thread in between the form and the other responses.. tahts the only one i know of that shows up in the middle though.
Title: Re: new kid says:
Post by: Ursus on September 11, 2007, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
Am I supposed to have a drop down menu in the middle of all my Fornits pages?
there is a JUMP TO pull down menu that shows up when replying to a thread in between the form and the other responses.. tahts the only one i know of that shows up in the middle though.

I have that one at the very bottom of every page.
Title: Re: new kid says:
Post by: webdiva on September 11, 2007, 06:17:47 PM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
Am I supposed to have a drop down menu in the middle of all my Fornits pages?
there is a JUMP TO pull down menu that shows up when replying to a thread in between the form and the other responses.. tahts the only one i know of that shows up in the middle though.
I have that one at the very bottom of every page.


thats where it NORMALLY is until you are on the reply screen and have the other messages show below your form (Topic Review). then it shows up inbetween.
Title: Problems
Post by: Ursus on September 11, 2007, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
shows up when replying to a thread

DUH!! Should have read more carefully; yes, of course...
Title: Problems
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on September 12, 2007, 12:20:29 AM
:idea:
    :o
 :wstupid:
thanks for the info
Title: Problems
Post by: webdiva on September 15, 2007, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""webdiva""
shows up when replying to a thread
DUH!! Should have read more carefully; yes, of course...


tsk tsk tsk  :D lol
Title: Problems
Post by: webdiva on September 15, 2007, 12:42:50 AM
::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
:idea:
    :o
 :wstupid:


 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::

nice use of smilies! :D
Title: ...she's back!!
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2007, 01:23:57 PM
Thanks for the compliment there 'diva.  I adore those little guys.  They make me smile ::seg::      ...and  This one- ::roflmao:: OMG  

Just for the record; the stupid sign is pointing to the 'idiot' under the idea-bulb (that would be me):    not ursus.

Was the site down over the weekend?  
I haven't been able to get on at all.
Title: Re: ...she's back!!
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2007, 01:12:32 PM
Dear Ginger, Tech support, Scarlet Chiclet,

Some joker on the Hyde School forum is posting pornography. It's actually much worse than that. First he posted on this page:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... 3363beb7e5 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20404&start=130&sid=c07b53f0e4dcec439fe4833363beb7e5)

When he didn't get any reaction he posted again on this page:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=288711#288711 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=288711#288711)

I don't think anyone it appreciates it. If you watch even ten seconds of it you'll know what I mean. Could you remove it from the forum and warn the guy that he'll be banned from using the forum if that, hopefully, is is the rule.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Someone who has enjoyed reading Fornits until now.
Title: Problems
Post by: Antigen on October 22, 2007, 07:09:53 AM
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.
Title: Re: ...she's back!!
Post by: Oz girl on October 22, 2007, 08:37:06 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Dear Ginger, Tech support, Scarlet Chiclet,

Some joker on the Hyde School forum is posting pornography. It's actually much worse than that. First he posted on this page:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... 3363beb7e5 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20404&start=130&sid=c07b53f0e4dcec439fe4833363beb7e5)

When he didn't get any reaction he posted again on this page:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=288711#288711 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=288711#288711)

I don't think anyone it appreciates it. If you watch even ten seconds of it you'll know what I mean. Could you remove it from the forum and warn the guy that he'll be banned from using the forum if that, hopefully, is is the rule.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Someone who has enjoyed reading Fornits until now.


A good tip is to just ignore any random looking links. if the thread is on GAO hearings and somebody posts a link with some random sounding title like lemon party it is bound to be the trolling of some retarded boy with  an ax to grind so skim right over it. good Luck
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 22, 2007, 08:43:41 AM
What about those people who make vile character attacks on others via anon status?

Maybe we should ignore them also.
Title: Problems
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 22, 2007, 10:34:26 AM
It may also help if we see something offensive, or troll bait, that we want to respond to by just quoting the post and starting a new thread in the Open Free For All forum to keep it from taking over a good thread.
Title: Problems
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on October 23, 2007, 11:15:32 PM
Y'all rock... :nworthy:

Thanks for the directions, patience, and for the reassurance
:wave:
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.


You might consider a cost-benefit analysis.

Benefits: it's pro-free speech to let the porno poster post away. Free speech is great, and we've been taught that it's what makes America a great country. After all, free speech is what protects our right to post on Fornits in the first place. So we are inclined not to limit our freedom of speech, and this overides all other considerations.

On to the costs: The porno poster sabotages free speech. It's hard to keep a serious discussion going in the face of his visual or textual onslaughts. He uses free speech to ambush free speech, like a terrorist uses democracy to ambush democracy.  

There's the one bad apple spoils the bunch effect. The porno poster makes the rest of the Fornits community look like a bunch of crazies.

The porno poster drives away not only those unfamiliar with the programs who come here for information and perspective, but also Fornits members who don't care to be subjected to smut either.

Where there's too much liberty, there's inequality. That's the case here. The porn is what we remember. Undeservedly. And at the cost of much good discussion. Any idiot can purchase fame by posting pornography, or by pulling a trigger for that matter.

For what it's worth, I think he should be banned from the discussion.
Title: Problems
Post by: Deborah on October 24, 2007, 04:28:28 PM
I fail to understand how pictures of nude bodies have been classified as free "speech". They're pictures, not speech. And as far as I can tell, are used to offend rather than debate or educate.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2007, 06:07:30 PM
(http://http://maceys.net/albums/Steph/huge_boobs.jpg)
Title: Get real
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.


Well, I think you've lost one of the major benefits of this forum. And at least one of your admins is abusing their privileges, and bumping logged in users off, which undermines any credibility you might have had in a big way.  You really should think about at least temporarily blocking IP's for those who post porn or continually ruin the threads in the name of free speech.

More than one kid who is in a program today would be safely home with their parents instead, had their parents been able to stomach this site, and actually acquire some useful information. And some kids who are dead might be alive. At best this forum has been reduced to not so funny entertainment for idiots at this point, and will never be taken seriously by any prospective parent, "real" survivors, investigator, journalist, or anyone else who has a sincere interest in exposing the abuse in the teen treatment industry. Congratulations.

My user account was compromised, so I no longer log in to post. I attempted to get information on the industry from this forum in an effort to expose what happened to my son. I sincerely doubt many parents would stick around for more than 5 minutes. So you survivors who get off on others' pain and abuse, have at it. More kids will suffer because of you, providing yet more entertainment for your sick minds. For those who post useful information and discussion about real issues, I suggest you find a real forum. Disagreement, discussion, and freedom to state one's opinions are great.  This version of free speech really sucks.

And if I were you, I'd spend a teeny amount of time keeping tabs on some of your "admins"..... But oh wait... then you'd be behaving like a .... parent.....

PB Mom
Title: Re: Get real
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 01:29:34 PM
Most "free speech" public forums do have a protocol. It is there to safeguard everyone's right to free speech (which isn't an issue on an Internet site) but also to control hecklers (which is an issue here) and to keep the discussion relevant (which is also an issue). Even if the protocol is relaxed, it is impossible to justify the posting of porn on a Troubled Teen Forum.

I'm not being prudish. What set me off is a video multiply posted on the Hyde Schools threads of two girls eating each other's shit and puking into each other's mouth. (I didn't actually watch it; I was careful to Google it first. But why should every video and photo on Fornits have to go through airport security?) If I wanted that kind of entertainment, I'd reread the Marquis de Sade, or go to the appropriate Web sites. But it has no place here on a Troubled Teen Forum. And since I've been provoked, I'd say that's true of all porn, not just the above described.

The point is that you are doing more harm than good to Fornits by not regulating it. Of all people, you Fornits people should be able to understand the need for regulation.
Title: Problems
Post by: TheWho on October 25, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
I think this is an important issue and brings to light some good points.  There is really no way to effectively ban someone (as Ginger has pointed out).  But if a persons sole purpose is to disrupt the forum by posting porn then that point of origin can be shut off via his I.P.  They can always get another I.P. but it may not be worth it to the person to continually get a new I.P. just for the fun of posting a few photos.

In the case of someone like Niles they may be able to contact him privately and try to explain how harmful these postings are to present and potential parents who may be viewing.  This could directly affect whether or not a child gets placed into a program or gets placed into the proper program.

I have approached Niles myself a while back and I don’t think he truly understands the effect (or health) of his hate sites, porn and anti-Semitic has on the average reader and I found him to be a bit immature, which could account for his lack of understanding of others.  But maybe someone who knows him better (or is closer to his age) could speak to him.
Title: now here's an idea (from the fornits "register" pa
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed). The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit. As a user you agree to any information you have entered above being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent the webmaster, administrator and moderators cannot be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.

This would seem to be an appropriate consequence and is what every user agrees to when creating a fornits account. Or does being a survivor give one some special right to avoid consequences for their actions, and to spew hate and abuse around for the rest of their life?
Title: Re: Get real
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Most "free speech" public forums do have a protocol. It is there to safeguard everyone's right to free speech (which isn't an issue on an Internet site) but also to control hecklers (which is an issue here) and to keep the discussion relevant (which is also an issue). Even if the protocol is relaxed, it is impossible to justify the posting of porn on a Troubled Teen Forum.

I'm not being prudish. What set me off is a video multiply posted on the Hyde Schools threads of two girls eating each other's shit and puking into each other's mouth. (I didn't actually watch it; I was careful to Google it first. But why should every video and photo on Fornits have to go through airport security?) If I wanted that kind of entertainment, I'd reread the Marquis de Sade, or go to the appropriate Web sites. But it has no place here on a Troubled Teen Forum. And since I've been provoked, I'd say that's true of all porn, not just the above described.

The point is that you are doing more harm than good to Fornits by not regulating it. Of all people, you Fornits people should be able to understand the need for regulation.


I checked those out.  In all fairness, they were LINKS, with writen warnings.  Why would you even have to google what they are when you already get a warning?  You upset over someone posting a link?  He posted that he wasn't gonna do it again, and he hasnt.  Not enough for you?
Title: Re: Get real
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Most "free speech" public forums do have a protocol. It is there to safeguard everyone's right to free speech (which isn't an issue on an Internet site) but also to control hecklers (which is an issue here) and to keep the discussion relevant (which is also an issue). Even if the protocol is relaxed, it is impossible to justify the posting of porn on a Troubled Teen Forum.

I'm not being prudish. What set me off is a video multiply posted on the Hyde Schools threads of two girls eating each other's shit and puking into each other's mouth. (I didn't actually watch it; I was careful to Google it first. But why should every video and photo on Fornits have to go through airport security?) If I wanted that kind of entertainment, I'd reread the Marquis de Sade, or go to the appropriate Web sites. But it has no place here on a Troubled Teen Forum. And since I've been provoked, I'd say that's true of all porn, not just the above described.

The point is that you are doing more harm than good to Fornits by not regulating it. Of all people, you Fornits people should be able to understand the need for regulation.

I checked those out.  In all fairness, they were LINKS, with writen warnings.  Why would you even have to google what they are when you already get a warning?  You upset over someone posting a link?  He posted that he wasn't gonna do it again, and he hasnt.  Not enough for you?


You obviously have not seen the wide range of photos, not links,  that permeate various forums and threads. Some good ones have been  totally trashed. I won't sink to the level of idiocy demonstrated by the original posters by linking to them here. Judging by the level of immaturity that runs rampant here, makes you wonder about the level of honesty of everything posted on fornits in the 1st place??? ::boohoo::
Title: Re: Get real
Post by: Che Gookin on October 25, 2007, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: ""pb mom""
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.

Well, I think you've lost one of the major benefits of this forum. And at least one of your admins is abusing their privileges, and bumping logged in users off, which undermines any credibility you might have had in a big way.  You really should think about at least temporarily blocking IP's for those who post porn or continually ruin the threads in the name of free speech.

More than one kid who is in a program today would be safely home with their parents instead, had their parents been able to stomach this site, and actually acquire some useful information. And some kids who are dead might be alive. At best this forum has been reduced to not so funny entertainment for idiots at this point, and will never be taken seriously by any prospective parent, "real" survivors, investigator, journalist, or anyone else who has a sincere interest in exposing the abuse in the teen treatment industry. Congratulations.

My user account was compromised, so I no longer log in to post. I attempted to get information on the industry from this forum in an effort to expose what happened to my son. I sincerely doubt many parents would stick around for more than 5 minutes. So you survivors who get off on others' pain and abuse, have at it. More kids will suffer because of you, providing yet more entertainment for your sick minds. For those who post useful information and discussion about real issues, I suggest you find a real forum. Disagreement, discussion, and freedom to state one's opinions are great.  This version of free speech really sucks.

And if I were you, I'd spend a teeny amount of time keeping tabs on some of your "admins"..... But oh wait... then you'd be behaving like a .... parent.....

PB Mom


Quality guilt trip.
Title: Problems
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on October 25, 2007, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.

I will find Gook's wisdom for you if it's in here:  I have nothing but time.  This is for while you're waiting...

Quote from: ""try another castle""
Okay, here is a lesson in blcoking images. You can right click on the image above, and there will be an option to "block images from _________" which will always block from that server. Obviously, you will end up seeing it once, but you don't even have to wait for it to finish loading in order to use the "block" function.

If you want to unblock it, you can go to the exceptions button next to the "load images automatically" in the tools menu. (In the "main" tab.)


I'll be back...  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Get real
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 26, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: ""Crash Test Dummy""
Quote from: ""pb mom""
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.

Well, I think you've lost one of the major benefits of this forum. And at least one of your admins is abusing their privileges, and bumping logged in users off, which undermines any credibility you might have had in a big way.  You really should think about at least temporarily blocking IP's for those who post porn or continually ruin the threads in the name of free speech.

More than one kid who is in a program today would be safely home with their parents instead, had their parents been able to stomach this site, and actually acquire some useful information. And some kids who are dead might be alive. At best this forum has been reduced to not so funny entertainment for idiots at this point, and will never be taken seriously by any prospective parent, "real" survivors, investigator, journalist, or anyone else who has a sincere interest in exposing the abuse in the teen treatment industry. Congratulations.

My user account was compromised, so I no longer log in to post. I attempted to get information on the industry from this forum in an effort to expose what happened to my son. I sincerely doubt many parents would stick around for more than 5 minutes. So you survivors who get off on others' pain and abuse, have at it. More kids will suffer because of you, providing yet more entertainment for your sick minds. For those who post useful information and discussion about real issues, I suggest you find a real forum. Disagreement, discussion, and freedom to state one's opinions are great.  This version of free speech really sucks.

And if I were you, I'd spend a teeny amount of time keeping tabs on some of your "admins"..... But oh wait... then you'd be behaving like a .... parent.....

PB Mom

Quality guilt trip.


+1, So now it's fornits who's to blame for kids being sent away and/or being killed in programs.

...
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2007, 01:38:16 PM
no, just commenting on those who like to put all the blame on parents,  some of whom might actually have gotten some information from these forums, and made a more informed decision,  if they weren't chased off with porn and hate.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2007, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, just commenting on those who like to put all the blame on parents,  some of whom might actually have gotten some information from these forums, and made a more informed decision,  if they weren't chased off with porn and hate.


Start your own forum or pay someone to do.
Put your money where your mouth is!!
Title: Problems
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 26, 2007, 04:16:03 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, just commenting on those who like to put all the blame on parents,  some of whom might actually have gotten some information from these forums, and made a more informed decision,  if they weren't chased off with porn and hate.


In that case blame the parents that just don't listen until something horrible happens. Few ever listen no matter how nice or upfront you are, if you say anything that suggest the program they chose is bad you get called a liar/druggie/loser/whatever, they just don't listen. I mean would you have believed us(and not just us but ISAC, Cafety, etc...) before something happened to your son?
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 26, 2007, 11:22:59 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, just commenting on those who like to put all the blame on parents,  some of whom might actually have gotten some information from these forums, and made a more informed decision,  if they weren't chased off with porn and hate.


Lady just say my name.. You know you want to..

Let me break it down really simple like. Parents pay money for their kids to go to programmes. they demand money from their insurance companies.. they push their local governments for money to send thier kids off to programme...

Whose fault is it that programs are perpetuated then? Free market system at play here.. No money going to programmes equals no demand for programmes.

Simple economics..

there fore parents really are to blame for the spread and growth of this industry by creating a demand for it.

Now you can sit here and rant and rave all you want about fornits but I love the place just the way it is. The porn is stupid sure, but that doesn't change what we are and who we are.

We are people who the programmes can't shut up. We are the place where anyone can go to speak their mind. Free speech can't be halted on these forums and that scares programmes. Because behind the scenes they know the more people speak out the more that others will listen.

Now I dispute this notion that parents are loosing any opprotunity to make informed decisions because they have people be mean to them on fornits.

First of all the majority of you poor parents are getting private messaged or phone calls to help you out from about the minute you step foot on fornits.

On top of that we have a moderated forum to keep the crap down to a minimum.

Yet the majority of you ding bats prefer to slug it out all over the forum and run off later crying that you got butthurt by someone saying something mean on the internet to yall.

Bottom line.. doesn't matter what I say to you.. Doesn't matter what the tooth fairy says to you.. doesn't matter what the mailman says.. the shrink.. the therapist...

The safety of children is reponsibility of the parents.. Parents who send their kids off to programmes because of getting ripped on at fornits don't deserve to be parents.. These are the sorts who need their children taken away from them for the safety of the children..

Parents pay the bills..

parents make the decisions..

parents push the demand for this industry...


In the end if you all would stop being such a bunch of whiney arsed pussies and crying about being misrepresented, brainwashed, goat assed trolled or who knows what and just accept the fact that you fucked up the end of this evil empire would come about so much quicker.

But.. again.. yall are to busy making 1001 excusing for abandoning your children to the care of a bunch of lunatics.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2007, 10:06:14 PM
I have to say that parents are abused by these con artists too.

Some of us catch on quicker than others. I just wish I was one of those parents who have the option to pull their kid out.

I unfortunately had the treatment center's help in ensuring that my son was court ordered there good and tight.

I am working my ass off trying to get him out and I KNOW, I TOTALLY KNOW THAT I AM 100% at fault for ALL of this.

I KNOW that I don't deserve to be happy again for the rest of my life.

No one has to tell me that.
Title: Problems
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 27, 2007, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
I have to say that parents are abused by these con artists too.

Some of us catch on quicker than others. I just wish I was one of those parents who have the option to pull their kid out.

I unfortunately had the treatment center's help in ensuring that my son was court ordered there good and tight.

I am working my ass off trying to get him out and I KNOW, I TOTALLY KNOW THAT I AM 100% at fault for ALL of this.

I KNOW that I don't deserve to be happy again for the rest of my life.

No one has to tell me that.


That is bull shit, you are not 100% at fault for looking for help and finding a nightmare. And you do deserve to be happy as does your son. They have parents who don't give a damn about their kids and just dump them off somewhere till they turn 18. They have parents who try to blame their kids for any abuse they suffered, defend the abuse as necessary, or even defend their child's abuser.

Any parent can be duped, but that alone does not make you an evil person. I really wish survivors would tell about their parents who fit the criteria of an asshole so you other parents can tell the difference.
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 27, 2007, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
I have to say that parents are abused by these con artists too.

Some of us catch on quicker than others. I just wish I was one of those parents who have the option to pull their kid out.

I unfortunately had the treatment center's help in ensuring that my son was court ordered there good and tight.

I am working my ass off trying to get him out and I KNOW, I TOTALLY KNOW THAT I AM 100% at fault for ALL of this.

I KNOW that I don't deserve to be happy again for the rest of my life.

No one has to tell me that.



I agree some parents are conned. It just doesn't merit that much significance to me when compared to the abuse endured by children at the hands of these lunatics. As an adult you would think parents would, more so these days given the plethora of information on programmes, to place a higher value on their children by NOT taking the word of so called medical authorities, programme reps, and ed cons.

Do some damn research for christ sakes people!!

My sympathies are with you and I do hope you are able to win free your child from the shitpit he is being held prisoner at.

Good luck and god bless.
Title: Problems
Post by: Oz girl on October 28, 2007, 01:03:13 AM
The is [parental accountability argument has little to do with whether porn should be allowed. Particularly the hardcore disgusting stuff

I would argue it should not be allowed because it undermines the credibility of the board is sickening to look at and may prevent parents considering this option from reading further. This has little to do with whether or not they should be seen as terrible people and held accountable after the fact.

However as Ginger has made her position on this issue clear I would advise readers to do what Castle has suggested and block such crap or just skip over random looking links which are likely to contain something grotesque.
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 28, 2007, 01:24:49 AM
My Crimes to date:

I banned niles and changed his user title.

I changed the Who's avatar to that of a convicted child molestor and gave him a new user title a well.



Here is my resignation as a Fornits Admin:

www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)


Thank you,

TSW


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Problems
Post by: Joseph W. Gauld on October 28, 2007, 01:55:22 AM
Quote
Crash Test Dummy
Your gracious hostess


Now ain't you the hostess with the mostest!!!  Commere and lemmee tickle your sweet lil fanny fanny!!  Har de har har har!!!

Tickled to be ticklin'
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Quote
Crash Test Dummy
Your gracious hostess

Now ain't you the hostess with the mostest!!!  Commere and lemmee tickle your sweet lil fanny fanny!!  Har de har har har!!!

Tickled to be ticklin'
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator


Joe,

Quarantine yourself here. Bring Ursus too.
Title: Problems
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Quote
Crash Test Dummy
Your gracious hostess

Now ain't you the hostess with the mostest!!!  Commere and lemmee tickle your sweet lil fanny fanny!!  Har de har har har!!!

Tickled to be ticklin'
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator

Joe,

Quarantine yourself here. Bring Ursus too.


You'll get yours.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:44:55 AM
Is that a threat, ccm cunt?
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:53:57 AM
Sorry, CCM, I didn't write that.

Threatened Guy
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: ""Crash Test Dummy""
My Crimes to date:

I banned niles and changed his user title.

I changed the Who's avatar to that of a convicted child molestor and gave him a new user title a well.



Here is my resignation as a Fornits Admin:

www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)


Thank you,

TSW


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


That is quite a resignation!
Title: Problems
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2007, 11:42:28 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Quote
Crash Test Dummy
Your gracious hostess

Now ain't you the hostess with the mostest!!!  Commere and lemmee tickle your sweet lil fanny fanny!!  Har de har har har!!!

Tickled to be ticklin'
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator

Joe,

Quarantine yourself here. Bring Ursus too.


Pahleeze don't lump me in with that old bag of wind, ha ha haa!   :rofl:
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 12:21:14 PM
If someone really is fucking with TheWho's and CCM girl's posts, I would encourage them to continue to do so; their credibility is nil here anyway.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)


Ursus,

No more family photos, please.
Title: Problems
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: ""Rogue Admin""
My Crimes to date:

I banned niles and changed his user title.

I changed the Who's avatar to that of a convicted child molestor and gave him a new user title a well.



Here is my resignation as a Fornits Admin:

www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)


Thank you,

TSW


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:



My log in has been blocked (probably changed my password) and 300 or more of my posts appear to have been deleted...  according to my post count.....  should be close to 3,170  or so and it is at about 2,858 posts at this time.

No, I am not crying or playing the victim, just passing along information in case this is important to anyone or it is effecting other posters.



TheWho...
Title: Problems
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Rogue Admin""
My Crimes to date:

I banned niles and changed his user title.

I changed the Who's avatar to that of a convicted child molestor and gave him a new user title a well.



Here is my resignation as a Fornits Admin:

www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)


Thank you,

TSW


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


My log in has been blocked (probably changed my password) and 300 or more of my posts appear to have been deleted...  according to my post count.....  should be close to 3,170  or so and it is at about 2,858 posts at this time.

No, I am not crying or playing the victim, just passing along information in case this is important to anyone or it is effecting other posters.



TheWho...



I honestly didn't think you guys would go this low. Now, I know you are doing this because you have been doing it to me too. FYI, do not post here unless you want your stuff altered. I would also encourage any staff members not to post here if you want to keep your jobs.
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
I would also encourage any staff members not to post here if you want to keep your jobs.

Hmmm..... not in touch with any ed-cons, eh?  :roll:

Something besides your snatch has been stinking for quite a while now, CCM...  :rofl:
Title: Problems
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: ""Rogue Admin""
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, just commenting on those who like to put all the blame on parents,  some of whom might actually have gotten some information from these forums, and made a more informed decision,  if they weren't chased off with porn and hate.

Lady just say my name.. You know you want to..

Let me break it down really simple like. Parents pay money for their kids to go to programmes. they demand money from their insurance companies.. they push their local governments for money to send thier kids off to programme...

Whose fault is it that programs are perpetuated then? Free market system at play here.. No money going to programmes equals no demand for programmes.

Simple economics..

there fore parents really are to blame for the spread and growth of this industry by creating a demand for it.

Now you can sit here and rant and rave all you want about fornits but I love the place just the way it is. The porn is stupid sure, but that doesn't change what we are and who we are.

We are people who the programmes can't shut up. We are the place where anyone can go to speak their mind. Free speech can't be halted on these forums and that scares programmes. Because behind the scenes they know the more people speak out the more that others will listen.

Now I dispute this notion that parents are loosing any opprotunity to make informed decisions because they have people be mean to them on fornits.

First of all the majority of you poor parents are getting private messaged or phone calls to help you out from about the minute you step foot on fornits.

On top of that we have a moderated forum to keep the crap down to a minimum.

Yet the majority of you ding bats prefer to slug it out all over the forum and run off later crying that you got butthurt by someone saying something mean on the internet to yall.

Bottom line.. doesn't matter what I say to you.. Doesn't matter what the tooth fairy says to you.. doesn't matter what the mailman says.. the shrink.. the therapist...

The safety of children is reponsibility of the parents.. Parents who send their kids off to programmes because of getting ripped on at fornits don't deserve to be parents.. These are the sorts who need their children taken away from them for the safety of the children..

Parents pay the bills..

parents make the decisions..

parents push the demand for this industry...


In the end if you all would stop being such a bunch of whiney arsed pussies and crying about being misrepresented, brainwashed, goat assed trolled or who knows what and just accept the fact that you fucked up the end of this evil empire would come about so much quicker.

But.. again.. yall are to busy making 1001 excusing for abandoning your children to the care of a bunch of lunatics.


Ok TSW, I know this is you, I'm not stupid. I don't want to shut anyone up, least of all you. I'm really glad you and others do speak out, although I would personally really to hear your whole story, and not just how witty you can be at other's expense. I even PM'd you trying to get information that would help me in my quest for the truth, but you didn't respond, and continued to riducule me and blame me for my son's death.  I don't disagree with your take on the econmics of the industry;  I disagree that parents push the demand because they don't care about their kids or have some evil agenda for their kids. I can't even imagine the sick mind of someone who could think that parents want to harm their own children. I have no motive for wanting free speech to be halted here, I have way more motive for the truth to come out than most, after all, my son didn't survive. he's dead.

And I didn't run off when you or someone else called me a murderer for pure entertainment value. I wanted to learn the truth about what happened to my son, so I toughed it out. I listened. I learned some things, and I started asking better questions about my son's death.  I learned the truth about how my son died,  and it was pretty damned ugly. A whole lot uglier than porn actually. I took fornits at face value, as a forum for information. Other parents, who might not be quite as tough,  do come here for information, and I know for a fact that they are turned away by the porn and the tacky entertainment, and YES you are part of that . And there are kids reading this forum as well, so how do you rationalize your version of free speech with these kids you are supposedly trying to protect from their "evil" parents?

So by using fornits as a personal forum to have fun with what you see as bad parenting, it seems to me you are just using it as a sick substitute for whatever personal horrors you are harboring. I certainly think you could use your "talents" more constructively.

PB Mom
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 30, 2007, 01:42:38 AM
Show me where I called you a murderer or publically held you accountable for your son's death?

Not inferred it either as that is to subjective to interpretation.. but directly called you a murderer.

As far as the porn goes I was the only admin that was deleting it. What??

Yeah.. I used to delete the porn whenever I found it.

How do you plan to protect kids from their parents is my question? The majority of the kids with problems are the direct result of shite parenting. How do you propose to protect kids from parents who are to lazy, to stupid, and/or just plain god damn sadists?

You can't visualize parents being sick and such.. well lady I've seen it with my own two eyes.
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 30, 2007, 01:52:03 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""


I honestly didn't think you guys would go this low. Now, I know you are doing this because you have been doing it to me too. FYI, do not post here unless you want your stuff altered. I would also encourage any staff members not to post here if you want to keep your jobs.



You know what was foolish of me? That is bothering to defend your ass in the first place. Not only did you lie, you turned around and slapped me right in the face.

You woman have proven to be a dissappointment.
Title: Problems
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 30, 2007, 02:00:19 AM
Careful, she might say you hate ALL women because you don't like HER.
Title: Problems
Post by: Che Gookin on October 30, 2007, 02:02:52 AM
I don't hate her.. I am merely dissappointed in her.

You bloody daft gobshite!