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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: ehm on May 27, 2003, 05:46:00 PM
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"CONFROTATION"
confront; 1. to face, esp. boldly or defiantly 2. to bring face to face(with) confrontation
Using terms that were harmless and distorting their meanings. They (Straight Inc) were good at doing that. You sound like an idiot describing it in the real world. Was it designed to sound so harmless? I think so. No one really knows what "motivating" is but us. I will forever hate all of those words now.
I don't know. I just think of that from time to time. It pisses me off that I was ever that lost and obedient.
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You've read some stuff on brainwashing, haven't you? Language is really powerful.
How about how they raped the word "honesty"? One of the most beautiful and blameless words in our language, tortured and bent to mean something frightening and horrible.
And it works the other way, too. Before the Program, I associated the term "twisted thinking" with things like the Mansons and Ted Bundy. But, when I started to get some awareness, I came to have a higher understanding of the true meaning of the term. What it really means, to those of us with awareness, is ...
...any thought or impulse inconsistent with whatever one might imagine staff and group would want you to think at the moment.
There are just SO many words and phrases I'll never hear, read or use the same way ever again.
Never let your sense of
morals get in the way of
doing what's right
--Isaac Asimov
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American P.O.W. 10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous
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my personal favorite ANTI straight phrases now are, aside from that motivate this middle finger one,
I FEEL LIKE GOING TO BED!!!
I FEEL LIKE GOING FISHING
I FEEL THAT YOU ARE WRONG
I FEEL hmm, well, you get the picture.
Those straight inc staffers gave hell to whomever said anything that resembled the above phrases in group. JEEZ!! Not to mention the fellow group attendees that were freaking out whenever the first thing that came to mind was "I feel like..." and then started playing those friggin "head games" DOUBLE JEEZ!!!!
MG8 :smokin:
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How about the word "Shine". The staff used to say that about people who were being moved from phase to phase. "You have the shine." What that really ment is that you looked like they had finally gotten to you.
Rich :eek:
[ This Message was edited by: Walstib14 on 2003-05-27 18:12 ]
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One of my favorites was from the Kids prog...it was "get out of your head!" In other words - stop thinking! If you're thinking, you're not following our orders or open to our control!
"get out of your head"
"I was in my head"
"Staff! So n So is in her head!"
- yeah, I was in my head thinking about ramming that bar stool you sit on in the front of the group through your skull.
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It's amazing that they infested every branch across the entire country with all these tedious details, and they did it without coming into group and specifically laying it all out. They somehow got us to spread it with perfect detail, and we didn't even have access to cross-communicate with other branch clients. I guess "Rules Rap" was the #1 method, but there's so much other stuff which we all seem to have developed it into identical fundamentals with the "all or nothing" basis which Straight instilled.
[ This Message was edited by: JDavid on 2003-05-28 12:41 ]
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I remember for a while the 5th phasers adopted certain phrases that spread like the plague during confrontational raps....
"I am so sick and tired of people coming in here and messing around with this group".
Like, what the hell does that mean? Where is the therapy in that? You are sick of me messing around in your group? Because I was unaware of the door for 5 seconds? Because I accidently rocked out in my head for one smidgen longer than the accepted length before becoming fully 100% full of shit because I was jammin to Milli Vanilli in my head?
How many of you all here were completely oblivious to the true meaning of "taking responsibility"? We were told that when you got stood up you were supposed to admit what you had done wrong, and then follow this mysterious, and ever elusive set of steps in order to "take responsibility".....I tried to do this my whole program and I never could figure it out. I stood up, confessed about not being aware of the damn door, and apologized....how is that not taking responsibility? After all these years I realized I didnt verbal berate myself enough. I didnt grovel and whine and tell everyone what a wortless piece of druggie shit I was. I just apologized and said I would try to "make amends".
Its so true how it was a damn circus sideshow....we got stood up so that everyone could take pleasure in slamming us down. There was no way out, not by lying, not by telling the truth.....no way out. You just had to hang on and hope that if it was Friday night, that you didnt get set back for a few days and not be able to see your parents who drove 4 hours just to spend a few precious moments alone with you when you werent slaving away at the host home watching over 6 newcomers.
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Yeah. My vocabulary is permanently ruined. Not to mention that the meanings of those words have changed for me. (learning to think again) For years I've used, "Why don't you take responsability for yourself?" and "Why are you being so defensive?" (this tends to piss people off who aren't really being very defensive)...lol It's like I got a Masters in getting under skin for completing that hell hole.
I don't do that anymore. It really is amazing how much crap they poisoned our minds with. I still catch myself feeling or sounding like a Straightling. It's mostly imbarassing.
We should think of some Straight phrases or scenes to use as a t-shirt idea. (i'm making shirts now) "Motivate This" is awesome.
The other day I came up with a cartoon/commercial
2 Pictures on the front of shirt
1) A Brain "This is your brain"
2) A brain on a blue chair (splattered and bloody) all over the chair like it was thrown...
"This is your brain on Straight" Any Questions?
Too gory?
Another one: Confrontation Comic book style
A scene in group:
A newc is standing up with staff yelling, when out of staff's mounth comes a long razor blade. (the blade is the staff's tongue)
It slices the newc down the center, exposing all of his insides. The staff bends down and scoops up the intestines and holds them and shakes them in the newcs face while yelling, "Would you like to talk about this!?"
I know it's gruesome, but so were they.
l8r
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How about this one... another staff favorite that would absolutely get a huge responce from the group.
" That's just like saying Fuck You to the group!"
Any time that was said it was like my world would bend and fold into itself . I knew that if I didn't retreat into that safe spot deep in the that far away place in my mind. I would never make it out sane. Sad but true.
Rich
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Mo,
I like the blood stained blue shirt idea - I'd love to see my Mom's face if they found it in my dirty laundry during the X-Mas visit!!!
Didn't know that you finished the program.
To you and everyone else who did, I'm curious what the "graduation" ceremonies were like.
I escaped on 4th phase, so I never got 5th.
The 5th phasers always seemed like a select group (the one at my house stayed out all hours of the night and never got in trouble).
Again, it seemed like no one ever escaped that place - I felt like I was going to spend years there as a prisoner (that's why I booked).
I'm curious what those sick bastards in charge think a graduation from that place constitutes.
Peace on Earth.
David
M.I.A Straight
Richardson Tx. 88/89
P.S. Does anyone else remember when the captain from Gilligan's Island came to speak? Straight again manages to make another fond memory of my childhood witness their manipulation and lies to an unsuspecting altruative person.
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On 2003-05-28 16:54:00, mithygato wrote:
"Mo,
I like the blood stained blue shirt idea - I'd love to see my Mom's face if they found it in my dirty laundry during the X-Mas visit!!!
I'll see what I can do...
Didn't know that you finished the program.
To you and everyone else who did, I'm curious what the "graduation" ceremonies were like.
I escaped on 4th phase, so I never got 5th.
The 5th phasers always seemed like a select group (the one at my house stayed out all hours of the night and never got in trouble).
I just remember I got to leave OM, and never return. I think my Aunt and Uncle took me out to eat. That night I went out with a bunch of graduates and flirted for the first time in almost 2 years, it was great...(the flirting)
Again, it seemed like no one ever escaped that place - I felt like I was going to spend years there as a prisoner (that's why I booked).
I'm curious what those sick bastards in charge think a graduation from that place constitutes.
Peace on Earth.
David
M.I.A Straight
Richardson Tx. 88/89
P.S. Does anyone else remember when the captain from Gilligan's Island came to speak? Straight again manages to make another fond memory of my childhood witness their manipulation and lies to an unsuspecting altruative person."
Not many did escape, it's true. None of us kids wanted to be homeless. If I hadn't been so afraid of my family sending me someplace even worse, I may have copped out more than just once. I just wanted them to let me out. I just wanted my family to treat me like they loved and accepted me. That never happened. Fuck 'em.
Love,
Morli
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Morli, from what I read about your family, they really do suck. It's really sad that you got stuck with those people by birth, especially your mom. I hope ya don't mind me insulting them too. I'm just wanting to say I think you're right!
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I remember that rule "Obey my oldcomer". Was it one of the first 5 rules which were mandated to be stated by whoever got called on? I remember Honesty and Talking Behind Backs being in that first 5, but I can't remember which other ones were.
I remember some people saying "obey thy oldcomer" in Rules Rap as though it was a religious practice. That was some sickness. The ex-clients who said that are probably the people who still approve of Straight.
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I remember that rule "Obey my oldcomer". Was it one of the first 5 rules which were mandated to be stated by whoever got called on? I remember Honesty and Talking Behind Backs being in that first 5, but I can't remember which other ones were.
I don't remember that rule specifically. Maybe b/c I didn't even think to disobey my Oldcomer. I dunno.
One of the other rules was empathy and sensitivity.
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One of the other rules was empathy and sensitivity.
Straightlings and those who ran it sure broke that rule. It was more like "no empathy or sensitivity will be tolerated".
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On 2003-05-28 22:45:00, JDavid wrote:
"Morli, from what I read about your family, they really do suck. It's really sad that you got stuck with those people by birth, especially your mom. I hope ya don't mind me insulting them too. I'm just wanting to say I think you're right!
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"I hope ya don't mind me insulting them too." - Not at all!! :wave:
lol.....Thanks Dave. :wink:
You know, the family I have today makes all that just a distant bad dream. After I get married I'll have two new sisters and one new brother.(and their kids) Not to mention a Mom and Dad that are wonderful. I tell Jon how lucky he is all the time.(he knows though) I'll get some pictures up soon. I look forward to putting wedding pics up too. I really have come full circle. I'm older than his oldest sister -hee hee
Morli
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What about the COC?
On another note:
To this day asking me "What's wrong?" is a guaranteed sure fire way to get your head bitten off. It's a conditioned response. I hear those words and all I see is poor schlock after poor schlock being bitched at and set back regardless of if the schlock being put to the question had done anything or not.
It's like I'm Pavlov's phaser or something....
CL
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On 2003-05-29 04:10:00, JDavid wrote:
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One of the other rules was empathy and sensitivity.
Straightlings and those who ran it sure broke that rule. It was more like "no empathy or sensitivity will be tolerated".
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Worse than that. It was a directive to do something proactive, which translated loosly to "Pretend, even to yourself, that you can read minds and assign the only acceptable emotional response." And, btw, the rest of Group and even the parents are following this rule. Believe it!
Locate the blind spot in the culture--the place where the culture isn't looking, because it dare not--because if it were to look there, its previous values would dissolve.
Terence McKenna
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To this day asking me "What's wrong?" is a guaranteed sure fire way to get your head bitten off. It's a conditioned response
The question that aggravates me is "What's going on with you?"
Don
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Well Don, that's pretty much right on target. People in the "real world" can give bullshit answers when questioned, without even thinking twice. For me, it's like, no matter how much I want to bullshit someone, I can't. Like some kind of disease or something. I call it the curse of the "honesty syndrome". A good example is when recycling monitors, people think they all get shredded up and dispersed to various markets as several different commodities. In actuality, they are shipped overseas and mined for copper, then dumped in rivers, oceans etc... So when someone asks me what happens to the monitors, I tell them they get dumped overseas. This creates many problems in my recycling business, as people are told one thing by the professional bullshitters and another by me. Hmmm, I hate that. I'd love to just play along with the rest of the world, but somehow, it's just not possible. Also, when a customer comes over with some stuff to recycle, I HAVE TO show them everything that happens here. I cannot just say, thanks and they are on their way. What should take 2 minutes for them dropping off a load of PCs takes a half hour. Oh well, nuff said. :smokin: