Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 05:34:37 PM
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 05:34:37 PM
Looks as if this site finaly got the message. You and yours are not welcome in America. If you would simply play by the rules maybe you could come back. Now, if the rest of you would just follow the site to your new Free Country we will all be better off. Now let's all sing, "O'Canada, land of medical and decriminalized marijuana, refuge to draft dodgers and other Unamerican Americans." So long dipshits, its been real.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 05:37:02 PM
I also like how you all launched a feeble attack on Sue Scheff and then have the audacity to accuse her of declaring war on your pathetic asses. This is the first thing remotely close to justice that has ever been detailed on this site. May you all now get what you deserve.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 05:51:48 PM
:rofl:
It's awesome watching this guy deteriorate.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 06:51:04 PM
maybe you should brush up on your history and law, canada along with a few other countries are more american now than america itself. in theory, america is "the land of the freet" but in practice, countries like canada follow and heed to the principles upon which america was founded much closer. the U.S is simply put, a police state. bill of rights amendments 1,2,4,6,8,9,10,15 are infrindged upon on a daily basis in america. free speech? although it's #1 on the bill of rights it's also the one broken the most.
and then there is the issue of corporate corruption - e.g car companies keeping ethanol and biodeisel off the market, how long it took for tobacco companies to admit their wrong, enron, or how about blackwater, or halliburton.
or maybe you should look up what happens in america if a "state of emergency" is declared; i wouldnt want to be around when it happens, ever seen the movie "the stand"? it's really not far from what could happen:
Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051
specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310
grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049
assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921
allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...
National Security Act of 1947
allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.
1950 Defense Production Act
gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.
Act of August 29, 1916
authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.
International Emergency Economic Powers Act
enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.
so dont give fornits shit for upholding the principles of the american constitution, they are more american and patriotic than you could ever possibly grasp with your defective brain.
Title: what goes around maybe does come around
Post by: ottawa5 on August 08, 2007, 10:31:42 PM
"Looks as if this site finaly got the message. You and yours are not welcome in America. If you would simply play by the rules maybe you could come back. Now, if the rest of you would just follow the site to your new Free Country we will all be better off. Now let's all sing, "O'Canada, land of medical and decriminalized marijuana, refuge to draft dodgers and other Unamerican Americans." So long dipshits, its been real."
Johnny Ringo: Obviously I don't know you, but if you're reading this site, can you please elaborate on your post as quoted above?
I am very rarely here these days, and there may well be a history somewhere in this place that clarifies your remarks, but I haven't the stomach to look for that history---these days, I only check in here when I have my own reasons to do so.
By way of self-disclosure, I will say that as a person much more naive than I am now (that is, now I do recognize that there is evil in the world, evil that is beyond compromise), I used to post at fornits, with the result that I was castigated and threatened---my posts were misrepresented in a character-assasination schtick that has happened many times at this site.
My own situation was perhaps somewhat unique in that the low-lifes here actually tried to post my address (and even a map of my neighborhood) and phone number here, presumably for the use of whatever type of disturbed individual might see it here. Believe me, I took the appropriate action when that happened, a record exists.
Interestingly enough, I'm also a Canadian by birth, with political contacts in Canada through my family, so you can imagine that I'm sickened by the idea, as suggested in your post, that fornits has roamed into that country.
Canada has a long history of tolerance and repulsion at threats or violence, if this crew has migrated up there, maybe the communication people in that country need to know what this cess pool is really about.
If you can clarify your post, Johnny, I'd appreciate it.
Ottawa5
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: ottawa5 on August 08, 2007, 11:43:55 PM
Canada is a country that prides itself on civil discourse, I do believe. And they're allowing this cess pool to operate out of their nation?
Please consider the responses I got here, due to not towing the party line about emotional growth schools:
And if you like, look over my posts, what have I ever said that could possible justify these responses. Responses which, I note, were allowed to remain after I contacted the moderator about them. And compounded by later posts that purported to give my address (with map included) and phone number.
So is this civil discourse by Canadian standards?
Wouldn't it be better to force this two-bit site out of Canada, off the entire continent in fact, is there any island that might host them, or maybe Ginger ought to look for honest work in a coffee shop somewhere, you know, to pay towards the legal bills?
I don't know. Something about you Ottawa makes me just want to fucking pound your skull in over, and over, and over, and over, and over....Nah, I'd rather fist fuck ya.
Now why would you go off and ruin a perfectly good hand fist fucking O5? Just remember not to eat with that hand later. Oh, and have fun cleaning out the cob webs!!!
.[ This Message was edited by: SON OF SERBIA on 2004-09-21 14:31 ]
Sorry, R, I wasn't thinking right. Yeah, I was actually going to fist fuck her ass hole, but now that I think about it, I'd much rather ram my fist down her fucking throat and rip out her mangled and bruised tongue.
Nah, let's just bury her in a 55 gal. drum with concrete. Watch, as an enlightening experiment, as her facial expressions change while the concrete hardens, slowly restricting her breathing.
Let's enjoy the show as she slowly realizes the next breath is her last.
Fuck it, I'm going to do a little research and figure out where she lives...
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 09, 2007, 01:14:28 AM
Anne (Ottowa5). Read what happened: http://sueschefftruth.com/ (http://sueschefftruth.com/)
Try to keep a somewhat neutral mindset. I realize you really dislike Fornits. But well. Fornits is a place where discourse simply is. Civil or not is a subjective matter anyway... Content is not censored here. I see you defend "Emotional Growth" schools all over the face of the earth and condemn fornits for trying to expose a crook. Well. Let me ask you. How would you feel if you were in program and one of those precious "Emotional growth Schools" were telling lies like this (http://http://www.fornits.com/docs/BenchmarkDefamation.pdf) to your parents. Is that not defamation? What "consequences" are there for that? Once again I must reiterate that you seem to be absolutely clueless about what goes on in these schools.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 09, 2007, 01:25:52 AM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
I also like how you all launched a feeble attack on Sue Scheff and then have the audacity to accuse her of declaring war on your pathetic asses. This is the first thing remotely close to justice that has ever been detailed on this site. May you all now get what you deserve.
The feeling is mutual, Len.
Title: Re: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 09, 2007, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
Now let's all sing, "O'Canada, land of medical and decriminalized marijuana, refuge to draft dodgers and other Unamerican Americans." So long dipshits, its been real.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Ursus on August 09, 2007, 10:47:48 AM
@psy: perhaps it is just my computer, but that pdf link appears to be empty.
@anyone re. defamation: addresses, phone #s? On some rinky dink forum board with a bunch of loud-mouthed teenage hooligans? Pftt! Ha ha! You have no clue as to the degree of libel and character assassination that these emotional-retardation "schools" can effect! These places will smear you for life. No comparison to Ottawa's relative inconvenience and emotional insult.
@Anne: wow. Thanks much for that link! Great stuff.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Troll Control on August 09, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
:rofl:
It's awesome watching this guy deteriorate.
Yes, it is. It's like a trainwreck in slow motion.
Here's what's funny, though: Now all of the things that Johnny Ringo claimed posters were doing here before, defamation, libel, etc that he desperately wishes would stop, can now go on unfettered and without consequence of any kind.
Now, I'm not advocating doing this. I'm only saying that Johnny Ringo (Jeff Holloway) should be careful what he asks for. Now he'll be slammed every which way from Sunday with items true and untrue, I'm sure, and he has zero legal recourse.
What do you think, dummy? Still so glad the site moved to another nation?
As far as Ottawa5 is concerned, she's just your basic mental-defective wannbe program owner. Viscious and cruel as they come, yet stunningly ignorant and arrogant concurrently.
Just look at her name: Anne S. Hall. Say it r e a l l y slowly and it actually describes her quite fittingly - "An Ass Hole". Thats you, love! :rofl:
Now you two have fun getting your teeth kicked in together!
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 09, 2007, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
@psy: perhaps it is just my computer, but that pdf link appears to be empty.
Make sure you have the latest version of Acrobat Reader
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 09, 2007, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
Just look at her name: Anne S. Hall. Say it r e a l l y slowly and it actually describes her quite fittingly - "An Ass Hole". Thats you, love! :rofl:
Now come now. She went through Parent Workshops with Mel Wasserman himself. That is pretty much guaranteed to mess with your head (sorry, Anne, but I think you were brainwashed, and internalized the change)
Title: An interesting point to consider
Post by: ottawa5 on August 09, 2007, 10:22:12 PM
In his feeble way, DJ has touched on something that I thought about when I first heard about this astonishing flight out of the United States.
What are the current laws concerning communication media, including the internet, like in Canada? Certainly, "free speech" is in some ways more restricted than in the United States, in terms of what you can say publicly about minority groups or gays for example (a quick search should verify that this is so).
So what does Canadian law say about internet communication of insutling, obscene, libellous, harassing or threatening material, anonymously or otherwise?
And what Canadian agency should be alerted to such material in order to crack down on it? Something to look into when I have the time.
What's happened here kind of reminds me of what the judge said when he sentenced "Doctor Death" Jack Kevorkian to several years in prison after his last, most publicized doctor-assisted suicide-event.
It was something to the effect of: "It wasn't enough that you were doing what you felt you wanted to do, you had to keep outdoing yourself, keep being more "in your face", more publicly outrageous. You kept pushing things further and further, demanding, daring anyone to stop you. Well, consider yourself stopped".
Title: Re: An interesting point to consider
Post by: psy on August 09, 2007, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
In his feeble way, DJ has touched on something that I thought about when I first heard about this astonishing flight out of the United States.
What are the current laws concerning communication media, including the internet, like in Canada? Certainly, "free speech" is in some ways more restricted than in the United States, in terms of what you can say publicly about minority groups or gays for example (a quick search should verify that this is so).
So what does Canadian law say about internet communication of insutling, obscene, libellous, harassing or threatening material, anonymously or otherwise?
And what Canadian agency should be alerted to such material in order to crack down on it? Something to look into when I have the time.
What's happened here kind of reminds me of what the judge said when he sentenced "Doctor Death" Jack Kevorkian to several years in prison after his last, most publicized doctor-assisted suicide-event.
It was something to the effect of: "It wasn't enough that you were doing what you felt you wanted to do, you had to keep outdoing yourself, keep being more "in your face", more publicly outrageous. You kept pushing things further and further, demanding, daring anyone to stop you. Well, consider yourself stopped".
Anne. Threats won't make you any friends and regardless of how you think you have been treated, Fornits will not be shut down. If not Canada, then Sweden, then Holland etc... Shutting down Fornits WILL NOT HAPPEN. Even if you managed to get to Ginger, there will always be others willing to carry the torch. This is the internet, lady. Completely different set of rules here. Windbag congressmen like to sit back and preach about "regulating the internet". Even if it were legally possible, it is not technically possible. Law enforcement is limited by things such as jurisdiction and will always be hopelessly outnumbered by experienced techs who are dedicated to keeping free speech unrestricted.
In any case, if you dislike how you are treated here, why do you continue to post here (especially threats) and then complain about people's responses? Insulting and obscene comments are still protected speech, and a statement is not libelous until it is judged as such in court (and even there, injustice often prevails).
Why would you want to crack down on Fornits? Apart from personal affronts, do you really think it would do good if you actually succeeded (not that it is even possible). Do you really see us as a whole as evil?
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 09, 2007, 10:46:17 PM
Hey o5, are you the church lady whose feathers got so ruffled over the "Niles wants to fuck a program mom" thread on Open free for All? Just curious.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: ottawa5 on August 09, 2007, 11:36:20 PM
Interesting.
In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.
At the TechDirt site for example:
[News You Could Do Without
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Permalink. Chilling Effects In Action: Canadian Bloggers Worried About Legal Threats Stay Quiet from the not-worth-getting-sued dept A few months ago, we had the story of a guy in Canada who was suing a whole bunch of sites because commenters on those sites said things he believed were defamatory. He supposedly even went after a few sites that simply linked to the defamatory material (and then there were claims that he went after sites that simply linked to sites that linked to the supposedly defamatory content). That seems a bit absurd, for obvious reasons. However, an article in Toronto's Globe & Mail notes that it may actually have been effective. Various bloggers have stopped writing about the guy out of a fear of getting sued as well. That, of course, is exactly what the suits were intended to do: to create some "chilling effects" against free speech. While the US laws clearly protect publishers and online services from content they didn't write, Canada doesn't have such protections -- and the chilling effects from that gap in the law are quite clear in this case. There's nothing wrong with using the law against those who actually are making defamatory remarks. However, suing sites that host those remarks or those who simply write about the story itself isn't protecting against defamation. It's going beyond that to intimidate anyone who might normally write about a perfectly legitimate legal issue].
Well psy, like you say, there's always Holland (well, maybe--I don't read Dutch, can't say what those laws are like).
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 10, 2007, 12:57:16 AM
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking"
Well. If anybody starts stalking us Fornitscators, we'll be sure to let you know. :lol:
Title: Re: An interesting point to consider
Post by: Troll Control on August 10, 2007, 09:20:41 AM
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
In his feeble way, DJ has touched on something that I thought about when I first heard about this astonishing flight out of the United States.
What are the current laws concerning communication media, including the internet, like in Canada? Certainly, "free speech" is in some ways more restricted than in the United States, in terms of what you can say publicly about minority groups or gays for example (a quick search should verify that this is so).
So what does Canadian law say about internet communication of insutling, obscene, libellous, harassing or threatening material, anonymously or otherwise?
And what Canadian agency should be alerted to such material in order to crack down on it? Something to look into when I have the time.
Sure, go ahead and "look into it," Anne. Knock yourself out. The end result is going to be the same as it was when you "looked into it" when the site was hosted in the US: NOTHING.
Anne, you're a gasbag. You can huff and puff until you're blue in the face and it won't change a damn thing. Grow up, pull up your knickers and get on with your life. Crying like a baby about how you've been "wronged" falls on deaf ears, just like your petty empty threats.
Let me be the first one to tell you from Canada - Go fuck yourself..
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 10, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
So Anne, are you or are you not the 'church lady' from that thread?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Antigen on August 10, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
Oh, the irony of it all!
First, a little history. Fornits.com was just fine on BareMetal. Several of you militant toughlove hategroup storm troopers have tried threats, bribes and outright lies to get BareMetal to nix this site. Even though there exist some significant differences of opinion between myself and BM's other acitvist customers (which is why I established my own site instead of bringing my issue into MAPInc and DPA) they have steadfastly refused to cow to you bullies each and every time you've tried to stiffle us. The only trouble was that they charge so much for bandwidth that I had to go looking for a more cost effective option. And here we are back in Canada again.
The drug policy reformers are still quite enthralled with the Treatment not Incarceration Judas goat move. I think maybe they'll start reexamining their position on that now that Mitt and Mel are making international headlines. Maybe not. Activists so often become factionalized and militant and, ultimately, closed minded. We'll see.
The irony? The TOUGHLOVE hategroup and all of it's militant drones like O5 are ok with actually torturing and even killing kids, destroying families. That's just fine, so long as we all support their delusion that what they're really doing is saving kids' lives and bringing families back together.
I actually do still snicker a little bit whenever they react with stunned outrage over their victims wishing bad things upon them. Just to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's funny at all that so many people so vehemently wish such horrible things on you. Not at all. I know firsthand what drives that kind of rage. I just think it's funny as hell how you can dish it out but ya just can't take even a written expression of same directed back at you. Pussies! Wimps! Cowards!
:rofl:
Funnier still? You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. ::roflmao:: Fuck You! LOL I'm made of stone. You have made me and plenty of others like me so jaded, so tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance that, now that I'm of age and you can't force me into any of your torture camps, you ain't got SHIT that scares me. And some of these younger ones coming up are even tougher.
Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. I have no assets for you to take. I care not a whit what any fucker thinks of me except my close friends who know better than to listen to idiots like you. Worse case? Some judge orders me to do something I'm unwilling to do and I get to hang out in some local county jail with a bunch of hookers for a month or so. Hands down, by far and away better and more interesting company than when you sadistic bastards forced me into a program for two years.
Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can't. You made me this way so be careful what you wish for!
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 10, 2007, 11:50:05 AM
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
Interesting.
In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.
In order to be "cyberstalked", dipshit, we would need to be coming after you. Since you clearly keep returning to us, just what are you going to tell the authorities, huh? That you keep going on a website that clearly has views diametrically opposed to your pathetically transparent recruitment efforts and you're shocked and upset when people start calling you names?
Dumbass! :roll:
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 10, 2007, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Oh, the irony of it all!
First, a little history. Fornits.com was just fine on BareMetal. Several of you militant toughlove hategroup storm troopers have tried threats, bribes and outright lies to get BareMetal to nix this site. Even though there exist some significant differences of opinion between myself and BM's other acitvist customers (which is why I established my own site instead of bringing my issue into MAPInc and DPA) they have steadfastly refused to cow to you bullies each and every time you've tried to stiffle us. The only trouble was that they charge so much for bandwidth that I had to go looking for a more cost effective option. And here we are back in Canada again.
The drug policy reformers are still quite enthralled with the Treatment not Incarceration Judas goat move. I think maybe they'll start reexamining their position on that now that Mitt and Mel are making international headlines. Maybe not. Activists so often become factionalized and militant and, ultimately, closed minded. We'll see.
The irony? The TOUGHLOVE hategroup and all of it's militant drones like O5 are ok with actually torturing and even killing kids, destroying families. That's just fine, so long as we all support their delusion that what they're really doing is saving kids' lives and bringing families back together.
I actually do still snicker a little bit whenever they react with stunned outrage over their victims wishing bad things upon them. Just to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's funny at all that so many people so vehemently wish such horrible things on you. Not at all. I know firsthand what drives that kind of rage. I just think it's funny as hell how you can dish it out but ya just can't take even a written expression of same directed back at you. Pussies! Wimps! Cowards!
:rofl:
Funnier still? You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. ::roflmao:: Fuck You! LOL I'm made of stone. You have made me and plenty of others like me so jaded, so tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance that, now that I'm of age and you can't force me into any of your torture camps, you ain't got SHIT that scares me. And some of these younger ones coming up are even tougher.
Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. I have no assets for you to take. I care not a whit what any fucker thinks of me except my close friends who know better than to listen to idiots like you. Worse case? Some judge orders me to do something I'm unwilling to do and I get to hang out in some local county jail with a bunch of hookers for a month or so. Hands down, by far and away better and more interesting company than when you sadistic bastards forced me into a program for two years.
Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can't. You made me this way so be careful what you wish for!
Rock on Ginger!!! ::rocker:: ::rocker:: ::drummer:: ::armed:: ::cheers:: ::cheers:: :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: ::roflmao:: ::rocker:: :wstupid: :wstupid:
This needs to be posted over on the TT forum to for SueSue and Izzy to see.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 10, 2007, 12:32:33 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""ottawa5""
Interesting.
In searching a bit concerning Canadian laws re internet harrassemnt/stalking, there's all kinds of good stuff just by googling something like "Canadian laws cyberstalking" , let alone getting into the actual professional legal literature.
In order to be "cyberstalked", dipshit, we would need to be coming after you. Since you clearly keep returning to us, just what are you going to tell the authorities, huh?
Hey! Maybe yous should litigate against ottawa5 for "cyberstalking." :idea: :rofl: ::bwahaha2::
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Bunnie on August 10, 2007, 12:35:05 PM
This is sooo great it should be on a tee shirt. Better yet I am going to print it out and frame it on the wall. Ginger I wanted to reply and was pondering on this, but you said it so much better than I could ever imagine. Well said. This should be on the front page of Fornits, but I guess they would not even read it much as the warning on the TTI link. WOOO HOO go girl ::cheers:: :wave:
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 10, 2007, 12:40:20 PM
?????
Ladies post??
:(
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 10, 2007, 12:43:40 PM
Well it was 'up' for a minute or two at least.. ((LOL)).
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 10, 2007, 12:47:42 PM
I went to quote it and reply and it was gone. So quickly.
::bwahaha::
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 10, 2007, 01:16:24 PM
Which reminds me of this idea I had of starting a thread consisting of nothing but "offensive" material dedicated to ottawa5. Let's see just how far we can push the envelope without getting sued.. :rofl:
Just call it "Dedicated to ottawa5" or something...
Someone start it.. thanks.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Troll Control on August 10, 2007, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Which reminds me of this idea I had of starting a thread consisting of nothing but "offensive" material dedicated to ottawa5. Let's see just how far we can push the envelope without getting sued.. :rofl:
Just call it "Dedicated to ottawa5" or something...
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 10, 2007, 02:33:27 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Oh, the irony of it all!
First, a little history. Fornits.com was just fine on BareMetal. Several of you militant toughlove hategroup storm troopers have tried threats, bribes and outright lies to get BareMetal to nix this site. Even though there exist some significant differences of opinion between myself and BM's other acitvist customers (which is why I established my own site instead of bringing my issue into MAPInc and DPA) they have steadfastly refused to cow to you bullies each and every time you've tried to stiffle us. The only trouble was that they charge so much for bandwidth that I had to go looking for a more cost effective option. And here we are back in Canada again.
The drug policy reformers are still quite enthralled with the Treatment not Incarceration Judas goat move. I think maybe they'll start reexamining their position on that now that Mitt and Mel are making international headlines. Maybe not. Activists so often become factionalized and militant and, ultimately, closed minded. We'll see.
The irony? The TOUGHLOVE hategroup and all of it's militant drones like O5 are ok with actually torturing and even killing kids, destroying families. That's just fine, so long as we all support their delusion that what they're really doing is saving kids' lives and bringing families back together.
I actually do still snicker a little bit whenever they react with stunned outrage over their victims wishing bad things upon them. Just to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's funny at all that so many people so vehemently wish such horrible things on you. Not at all. I know firsthand what drives that kind of rage. I just think it's funny as hell how you can dish it out but ya just can't take even a written expression of same directed back at you. Pussies! Wimps! Cowards!
:rofl:
Funnier still? You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. ::roflmao:: Fuck You! LOL I'm made of stone. You have made me and plenty of others like me so jaded, so tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance that, now that I'm of age and you can't force me into any of your torture camps, you ain't got SHIT that scares me. And some of these younger ones coming up are even tougher.
Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. I have no assets for you to take. I care not a whit what any fucker thinks of me except my close friends who know better than to listen to idiots like you. Worse case? Some judge orders me to do something I'm unwilling to do and I get to hang out in some local county jail with a bunch of hookers for a month or so. Hands down, by far and away better and more interesting company than when you sadistic bastards forced me into a program for two years.
Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can't. You made me this way so be careful what you wish for!
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
Ditto.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2007, 08:45:38 PM
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that is, now I do recognize that there is evil in the world, evil that is beyond compromise
Interesting. That's akin to what I said when I learned that parents were sending their own children to be tortured.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 07:39:03 AM
You just have to love it when Ginger brings her blather to the mix. She only cares about what her friends think. When their all sitting around smoking dope and telling horror stories of their youth, (can't seem to move past it), they are bonded. "These people really love me, they really love me", cries Ginger. You can't miss the irony of this situation however. Fornits and its retarded, po-white trash, dope smoking leader have forever taken the high ground that what they are trying to do end an unethical and illegal industry of child abuse. Yet, they are the ones having to seek refuge in another country because they can't seem to operate with in the laws of the United States. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think, a little too ironic. I really do think.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 09:28:58 AM
back in the USSA!
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 10:10:16 AM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
You just have to love it when Ginger brings her blather to the mix. She only cares about what her friends think. When their all sitting around smoking dope and telling horror stories of their youth, (can't seem to move past it), they are bonded. "These people really love me, they really love me", cries Ginger. You can't miss the irony of this situation however. Fornits and its retarded, po-white trash, dope smoking leader have forever taken the high ground that what they are trying to do end an unethical and illegal industry of child abuse. Yet, they are the ones having to seek refuge in another country because they can't seem to operate with in the laws of the United States. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think, a little too ironic. I really do think.
1. You really did not just quote Alanis Morissette.
2. Ummm, and HLA doesn't operate outside the law? Suuuuure...
I'm surprised Len allows Jeff to post on this site all the time. He just makes the HLA staff look that much worse.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 02:25:03 PM
Johhny:
1. define "dope". it could mean anything from heroin to marijuana.
2. what makes you think all of fornits smokes "dope"?
3. what do you have against "dope" smokers? your kids, your mom, even your grandma could be a "dope" smoker. and i bet 99% of the music you listen to was written by people who smoke "dope". dont be a hypocrite.
4. why do you insist on focusing on how fornits are a bunch of druggies every time you post?
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 16, 2007, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
You just have to love it when Ginger brings her blather to the mix. She only cares about what her friends think. When their all sitting around smoking dope and telling horror stories of their youth, (can't seem to move past it), they are bonded. "These people really love me, they really love me", cries Ginger. You can't miss the irony of this situation however. Fornits and its retarded, po-white trash, dope smoking leader have forever taken the high ground that what they are trying to do end an unethical and illegal industry of child abuse. Yet, they are the ones having to seek refuge in another country because they can't seem to operate with in the laws of the United States. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think, a little too ironic. I really do think.
Oh bite my ass, you moronic piece of shit. Ginger could fucking care less what people think of her, including her friends. We have not broken the law, the ISPs are pussies and wouldn't stand up to people paying big bucks to bury the truth. She was contacted and asked to take postings down. She said no. If they were UNtrue, the woman throwing the temper tantrum would have had legal recourse. What we said was TRUE so she didn't, so she BOUGHT people to sit around and post fake, positive shit about her.
At least Ginger HAS friends. You guys have to BUY 'em.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 16, 2007, 02:38:00 PM
Johnny Ringo. doesn't that remind you of that stupid name/character from the Brady Bunch? Greg becoming Johnny Bravo.
Fucking 'tard.
:roll: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Deborah on August 16, 2007, 03:09:35 PM
They employ only the finest at HLA :rofl:
Title: The rules
Post by: Antigen on August 16, 2007, 03:16:47 PM
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
And they have not. However, We haven't broken any laws. Sue's judgment against Carey Bock was a default judgment. That means the defense didn't show up for the trial because the defense was not invited. In other words, this was kangaroo court. Do note that this dubious judgment represents the largest dollar amount for any such judgment against a net blogger or forum poster. That, in fact, is how the corporate media is spinning it. And they have obvious reasons for wishing ill will on all those pain in the ass bloggers and net journalists who keep debunking their fluff.
The net views censorship as damage and routes around it. We'll see, but I'm pretty confident that we'll come out on top of this one.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
Fornits and its retarded, po-white trash, dope smoking leader
Mmmm. I dunno, this is starting to look like slander to me. At least how this cocksucker defined it in the other thread. :D
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 06:19:10 PM
Actually its not, if I used a name it could be. However, I leave it to the reader to decide who the leader of Fornits is.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 16, 2007, 06:21:13 PM
What I think is so funny is that they really believe it's upsetting either Ginger or us or both. I mean, did he really read her post? It's not only hilarious but oh so true. She could give two shits about her "reputation" or any creature comforts. She doesn't require much to be happy. A roof over her head, some good friends, a computer, defineitely a computer and a few other assorted pleasures. :wink: . The very things that they're terrified of (losing) are the things that don't mean a damn to her.
:rofl: :rofl:
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 16, 2007, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
Actually its not, if I used a name it could be. However, I leave it to the reader to decide who the leader of Fornits is.
Gonna answer those questions yet?
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Froderik on August 18, 2007, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
Yet, they are the ones having to seek refuge in another country because they can't seem to operate with in the laws of the United States. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think, a little too ironic. I really do think.
Ironic indeed! A lot of programs like to do the same thing, you know...
So what's so different about HLA, J.R.? What sets it apart from the rest of these corrupt shitholes?
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Che Gookin on August 18, 2007, 09:02:38 PM
For one they allow their employees ample time to browse the internet at HLA.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2007, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""
For one they allow their employees ample time to browse the internet at HLA.
TSW, How can you keep a straight face and just go on with the discussion like nothing has changed? You know dam well I cant focus on anything else since your new avatar.
Put her back up!!
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
You heard the anon. Tits or GTFO!
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: psy on August 19, 2007, 06:03:42 AM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
You just have to love it when Ginger brings her blather to the mix. She only cares about what her friends think. When their all sitting around smoking dope and telling horror stories of their youth, (can't seem to move past it), they are bonded. "These people really love me, they really love me", cries Ginger. You can't miss the irony of this situation however. Fornits and its retarded, po-white trash, dope smoking leader have forever taken the high ground that what they are trying to do end an unethical and illegal industry of child abuse. Yet, they are the ones having to seek refuge in another country because they can't seem to operate with in the laws of the United States.
Yup. We were thrown out becuase of fradulent allegations and hollow threats of frivilous litigation. No due process, no chance to defend ourselves or refute the charges. Child abuse, however, remains tolerated and even encourated in the USA. oh.. And don't forget, we were thrown out of Canada too... but fornits is still running, and with each sucessive attempt to take us down we adapt and become stronger.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Che Gookin on August 19, 2007, 06:20:40 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""
For one they allow their employees ample time to browse the internet at HLA.
TSW, How can you keep a straight face and just go on with the discussion like nothing has changed? You know dam well I cant focus on anything else since your new avatar.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2007, 01:00:34 PM
what doesnt kill you makes you stronger....pain is weakness leaving the body.
-mark keith as he sits on me. awfully fitting.
Title: Fornits seeks refuge in Canada; unwelcome in America!!!!
Post by: Deborah on August 20, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo""
I also like how you all launched a feeble attack on Sue Scheff and then have the audacity to accuse her of declaring war on your pathetic asses. This is the first thing remotely close to justice that has ever been detailed on this site. May you all now get what you deserve.