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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: webdiva on August 05, 2007, 03:17:30 PM

Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: webdiva on August 05, 2007, 03:17:30 PM
http://http://www.fornits.com/docs/bullshit.html

which came with several attachments
http://http://www.fornits.com/docs/attachments.zip

Interestingly enough.  After contacting the Browning County sherrifs dept, it was discovered she never filed anything.  The case number didn't even fit the format they use.

When 20/20 was contacted, they didn't seem to know anything about Sue Sheff either.

Also.  Her name, which she claims to be trademarked... Isn't.  She lied about that too:

see for yourself:
http://http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: psy on August 05, 2007, 03:24:54 PM
Dear sue:

We are now in Canada where you can't fuck with us anymore.  Kindly go fuck yourself for making me take time out of other shit i have to do to help move Fornits.

A very big thanks to:

Rachael - for finding a Canadian provider with balls.. (unlike the American GoDaddy)
Kelly - backing up and transferring db
Ginger - for being so punctual with transferring the dns :D
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Ursus on August 05, 2007, 05:27:56 PM
You would think that someone of Sue Scheff's... ah, "caliber," would bother to spell check and ream for grammatical faux pas on such an important missive to GoDaddy... the way it currently reads seems like it just may be from some crazy hysterical dumb-assed piece of vermin excrement.  

Maybe in time people will come to read an "abundant dependence" on Reputation Defender for what it really is:  emergency reparations for being a total sleaze.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Ursus on August 05, 2007, 05:30:52 PM
Am I missing something?  (Wouldn't be the first time.).  Where exactly are these so-called "death threats?"
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: psy on August 05, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
If there were, actually, any death threats, don't you think she would have /actually/ called the cops, rather than just say she did.

The lying bitch is scared.  She knows we have something, she can hear the train coming, but she doesn't know exactly what or from where... So she tried to have us all shut up.  Well.  She has just moved herself to the top of my "todo list" (and that of a lot of other people as well).

BTW. if you can't log in do this:

Clear your cookies
log in.... you will be redirected to the prior fornits location
then go here: http://fornits.netfirms.com/fornits.com/wwf (http://fornits.netfirms.com/fornits.com/wwf) and you should be logged in (should).  If not, guest posting does work.

in a few hours, the dns nameservers will be swapped to the new ones and fornits will be once again accessable at fornits.com.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2007, 09:11:31 PM
Well, welcome to Canada where freedom of speech is still rigourously upheld.

Rachael
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2007, 10:17:15 PM
I'll get you damn forniscators!!!

 :flame:
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: webdiva on August 05, 2007, 10:40:20 PM
as you can SEE we were only down for a FEW HOURS, but we wouldn't bring the site up ASAP because we were waiting on Ginger to get back from her WILD WEEKEND PARTY!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: psy on August 05, 2007, 10:44:48 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
as you can SEE we were only down for a FEW HOURS, but we wouldn't bring the site up ASAP because we were waiting on Ginger to get back from her WILD WEEKEND PARTY!


Yup.  Lazy woman made us do all the work!  we slaved over hot computers (literally in my case.... poor powerbook gets quite hot doing all that work) all night long while ginger was slamming down beers in somebody's backyard...  It's intolerable i tell you :D
Title: 20/20
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2007, 11:22:38 PM
Maybe the attachment,  where it states by PURE'S owner, that she shall
be on 20/20 thid month, should be sent to 20/20.....that would be interesting.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2007, 12:02:15 AM
Sorry, sorry.... no I'm not. I had a blast catching up with old friends and meeting some new ones. But this was a close call. Thank ya'll for the rescue.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 06, 2007, 12:47:18 AM
This lady is nuts if she thinks she can railroad fornits like she did Carey.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Carey on August 06, 2007, 12:53:49 AM
I think ya'll will find this interesting.  I released a web wire this weekend and it was pulled.  Also, I tried to have it show as a sponsored link using Sue's name, just like she has done using my name.  (Google my name, you will see her webwires and her sponsored link using my name.)

I want ya'll to read Webwire/Google's reason why I can not use Sue's name (although she uses mine).

And, I want ya'll to see how they are going to leave hers up (even though they admit hers violates their policy as mine did.)  Actually they pulled my "How Free is Free Speech"  webwire and my "Sue Scheff's Undocumented Case" webwire.

You have to read the email thread from the bottom up.

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Our information regarding the ownership of the name "Sue Scheff" comes from Google.  They conveyed to us that efforts were made to protect the name as property within Google's keyword driven advertising efforts (which are what power our WebRelease product).
 
We hope this information was helpful.
 
WebWire Support



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: support1@webwire.com (http://mailto:support1@webwire.com)
Subject: Re: General Inquiries


I did a trademark search at http://www.uspto.gov/main/sitesearch.htm (http://www.uspto.gov/main/sitesearch.htm)

I could not find the name "Sue Scheff" as a trademark name.

Please remove her webwires as well since they seem to have failed the test.



-----Original Message-----
From: WebWire Support1
To: careycbock@aol.com (http://mailto:careycbock@aol.com) [mailto:careycbock@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:17 AM
To: http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=22089 (http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=22089)

What is the difference in what I wrote and what Scheff wrote?


-----Original Message-----
From: WebWire Support1
To: careycbock@aol.com (http://mailto:careycbock@aol.com) [mailto:careycbock@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:57 PM
To: careycbock@aol.com (http://mailto:careycbock@aol.com)
Sent: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 3:42 pm
Subject: RE: General Inquiries


What is your headline, and please understand that it takes one business day for your WebRelease to be processed (only the WebPost portion is instant).
 
WebWire Support



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Careycbock@aol.com (http://mailto:Careycbock@aol.com)

Why is my webwire not showing up under sponsored links like requested? Does it take a couple of days for this to happen? I though I read that it would be effective immediately.
 
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 01:25:45 AM
Who writes those blogs for Sue Scheff?  It is obvious from the spelling erros, sentence structure, grammar errors in this email that this woman seems to lack all writing skills.  She perhaps has a "ghost writer" for this book she continues to promote?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: ""Carey""
I did a trademark search at http://www.uspto.gov/main/sitesearch.htm (http://www.uspto.gov/main/sitesearch.htm)


It should be noted that this is the correct link:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/ (http://tess2.uspto.gov/) (then click on keyword search)

But Sue's name is still not trademarked...
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 01:31:43 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Who writes those blogs for Sue Scheff?  It is obvious from the spelling erros, sentence structure, grammar errors in this email that this woman seems to lack all writing skills.  She perhaps has a "ghost writer" for this book she continues to promote?

Or it's an "i'm writing a book" marketing tactic.  Do you know how long she has been claiming to have been writing that book!?!?!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 01:32:58 AM
Sue Scheff claims her name is a TRADE MARK---yet she also wants to claim SHE IS NOT A PUBLIC FIGURE?  How's that?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: webdiva on August 06, 2007, 01:56:52 AM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Sorry, sorry.... no I'm not. I had a blast catching up with old friends and meeting some new ones. But this was a close call. Thank ya'll for the rescue.


its ok party girl we understand. we've seen the pictures. LOL
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Ursus on August 06, 2007, 02:29:41 AM
Interesting that one can pay WebWire to print any and all sorts of drivel as news...
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Bunnie on August 06, 2007, 04:16:07 AM
Thank You for keeping Fornits online! All of you.
This person is unbelieveable, you wonder why someone would honor her request.  Oh yeah the famous lawsuit...what a bunch of
crap, she scared them.
 I can't wait till Carey gets a chance to defend herself.
 Sue if its the truth it is not slander.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 06, 2007, 04:35:02 AM
Quote from: ""Bunny""
Thank You for keeping Fornits online! All of you.
This person is unbelieveable, you wonder why someone would honor her request.  Oh yeah the famous lawsuit...what a bunch of
crap, she scared them.
 I can't wait till Carey gets a chance to defend herself.
 Sue if its the truth it is not slander.


Me two....
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 07:43:06 AM
Does anyone know if Sue refers parents to The Hyde School.  If so, then this tells me everything I need to know about her.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 10:58:32 AM
If you notice she also states that she contacted the FBI regarding the so-called "death thread".  Yah right, so someone suggested a pair of booties and water, IT WAS A JOKE SUE, you witless, humorless, cow.  And, have you ever heard of "Spellcheck"?  

If you're so worried about representing yourself in a good light, then wax those brows and stash, get a face lift, cut those nose hairs, fix your teeth, and do something with that freakin thing on the top of your head called "Hair".  And don't go back to the same schmuck who did your nose.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:00:30 AM
Almost forgot, thanks everyone for getting the site back and in operation!  Go Canada!  Viva la Canada!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
If you notice she also states that she contacted the FBI regarding the so-called "death thread".  Yah right, so someone suggested a pair of booties and water, IT WAS A JOKE SUE, you witless, humorless, cow.  And, have you ever heard of "Spellcheck"?  

Oh I know!!  It didn't even say they were going to put cement boots ON her.  They said they wished she'd get some.  That's not a threat, that's a wish.  A desire.  A want.

Quote
If you're so worried about representing yourself in a good light, then wax those brows and stash, get a face lift, cut those nose hairs, fix your teeth, and do something with that freakin thing on the top of your head called "Hair".  And don't go back to the same schmuck who did your nose.


Holy shit?!  Her nose has already been done??   :o  Damn, that would have been one of my first suggestions.  Bad Doc.
Title: Re: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
http://http://fornits.netfirms.com/docs/bullshit.html

which came with several attachments
http://http://fornits.netfirms.com/docs/attachments.zip

Interestingly enough.  After contacting the Browning County sherrifs dept, it was discovered she never filed anything.  The case number didn't even fit the format they use.

When 20/20 was contacted, they didn't seem to know anything about Sue Sheff either.

Also.  Her name, which she claims to be trademarked... Isn't.  She lied about that too:

see for yourself:
http://http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss


Couldn't log in - I'll clear the cookies later - but for now - HOW is this Possible?

Are you saying there never was a case filed? That can't be right - surely. I mean, even the lawyer was bragging about it - he being a lawyer - surely would not perpetrate a fraud on that kind of level!

Maybe you checked the wrong county? You say "Browning county"  was that a typo? Isn't it "Broward county"  Which county did you check with?

But anyway - Congrats guys, on the good work keeping the board humming along :)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:16:27 AM
http://freedomofspeechdoessupportdefam. ... s-law.html (http://freedomofspeechdoessupportdefam.blogspot.com/2007/08/carey-bock-levine-extortion-is-law.html)

 ::cheers::
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:17:08 AM
Same as "I wish she'd get run over by a car", doesn't mean I am going to get in my car and run her over.  Who'd ruin their car on her.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:18:20 AM
::cheers::  ::cheers::

http://freedomofspeechdoessupportdefam. ... -results=4 (http://freedomofspeechdoessupportdefam.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=4)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: SettleForNothingLess on August 06, 2007, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Same as "I wish she'd get run over by a car", doesn't mean I am going to get in my car and run her over.  Who'd ruin their car on her.



 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :flame:
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:19:33 AM
Nice piece on Carey.  Who ever did that...bang on!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Froderik on August 06, 2007, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Interesting that one can pay WebWire to print any and all sorts of drivel as news...

(http://http://www.joelogon.com/images_temp/successoryinternet400.jpg)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:26:59 AM
How does one donate to Fornits?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:28:59 AM
Love that Fro.  At least everyone is making it harder for her to censor the truth. (http://http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z167/cookiecutter_bucket/censored.gif)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Nice piece on Carey.  Who ever did that...bang on!



Nice job whoever's doing those!!!  Keep it up!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: SettleForNothingLess on August 06, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Interesting that one can pay WebWire to print any and all sorts of drivel as news...
(http://http://www.joelogon.com/images_temp/successoryinternet400.jpg)


wait.. no offense but it the "thug" on the left a chick or what? lol sorry im half asleep
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2007, 12:11:26 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
How does one donate to Fornits?


PM me, please.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Mummie on August 06, 2007, 12:25:15 PM
check your pm
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2007, 01:56:28 PM
Thanks so much for your help. It was a pleasure talking to you.

If anybody wants to help there are a few things that we need.

We need a good consult on banner advertising and ad brokers.
We need individual advertisers who could benefit from linking their name to this somewhat controversial website.
We need help countering Sue's manipulation of the search engines.
We need links and references on sites like Fark, Encyclopedia Dramatica or any other site which you may frequent. (a reference in your signature is a good way to effortlessly give a little promo)

We need ideas.
Money's nice too, but as of yet I can't say exactly how it will be spent. The overall objective is to make Fornits.com a self sustaining net publication similar in structure to FARK or Something Awful or Huffington Post (that's vague, I know, but there is a common thread in there somewhere we just have to further define it)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Mummie on August 06, 2007, 02:03:54 PM
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We need links and references on sites like Fark, Encyclopedia Dramatica or any other site which you may frequent. (a reference in your signature is a good way to effortlessly give a little promo)



Can you explain how that works.  I am not sure.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 02:11:08 PM
Fark
http://www.fark.com/ (http://www.fark.com/)


They collect interesting stories and set up comment threads on them.  http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comment ... nk=2979145 (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2979145)  

The link to the article is at the top, followed by comments.  If you register and get an account (free) you can post comments.  As I understand it, if you attach a signature you can add http://wwf.fornits.com/ (http://wwf.fornits.com/) to it and it'll show on all your posts.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
BTW, I'm having trouble with incoming email so contact me via phone, PM,  chat or through a friend if you want to talk to me.

Thanks!
Ever your dedicated inactivist,
Ginger McNulty
Title: Re: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: psy on August 06, 2007, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""webdiva""
http://http://fornits.netfirms.com/docs/bullshit.html

which came with several attachments
http://http://fornits.netfirms.com/docs/attachments.zip

Interestingly enough.  After contacting the Browning County sherrifs dept, it was discovered she never filed anything.  The case number didn't even fit the format they use.

When 20/20 was contacted, they didn't seem to know anything about Sue Sheff either.

Also.  Her name, which she claims to be trademarked... Isn't.  She lied about that too:

see for yourself:
http://http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss

Couldn't log in - I'll clear the cookies later - but for now - HOW is this Possible?

Are you saying there never was a case filed? That can't be right - surely. I mean, even the lawyer was bragging about it - he being a lawyer - surely would not perpetrate a fraud on that kind of level!

Maybe you checked the wrong county? You say "Browning county"  was that a typo? Isn't it "Broward county"  Which county did you check with?

But anyway - Congrats guys, on the good work keeping the board humming along :)


I checked with Broward County sherrifs dept.  I even talked to somebody in records.  I checked in serveral different ways.  Sue Scheff never filed anything.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Mummie on August 06, 2007, 02:25:05 PM
Thanks Guest.

More lies from sue Sue, why isn't anyone surprised.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: BuzzKill on August 06, 2007, 02:28:39 PM
///I checked with Broward County sherrifs dept. I even talked to somebody in records. I checked in serveral different ways. Sue Scheff never filed anything.///

How is that possible? Are we talking about a different case maybe? We aren't talking about the Bock thing are we? Do you mean there was some other case she claims to have filed, but didn't?

Those documents are about the Bock judgement. . . But there must be some confusion. . .

You can't mean she never filed anything?? How could it get into court at all, if not?

I'm very confused - please help.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 02:31:52 PM
No, she said she filed a report with BSO and the FBI about alleged death threats against her here.  As far as anyone can find out, nothing has been filed.
 
She also said that 20/20 was doing a story on her.  They've never heard of her.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: ""The Bullshit Email to Godaddy""
I have filed a police report with Broward Sherriff's office (File#W505031987) in Florida


Yet another of Sue Scheff's lies.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: BuzzKill on August 06, 2007, 02:39:28 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
No, she said she filed a report with BSO and the FBI about alleged death threats against her here.  As far as anyone can find out, nothing has been filed.
 
She also said that 20/20 was doing a story on her.  They've never heard of her.


Ahh - I see! Thanks a bunch. That make sense. But would a county office have records on a complaint to the FBI?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Mummie on August 06, 2007, 03:18:03 PM
(http://http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z167/cookiecutter_bucket/exct0002-1.gif)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: psy on August 06, 2007, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: ""BuzzKill""
Quote from: ""Guest""
No, she said she filed a report with BSO and the FBI about alleged death threats against her here.  As far as anyone can find out, nothing has been filed.
 
She also said that 20/20 was doing a story on her.  They've never heard of her.

Ahh - I see! Thanks a bunch. That make sense. But would a county office have records on a complaint to the FBI?


She claimed she contacted both.  Check the email (linked to in first post) as well as the hilarious attachments.  She seems to like my quotes quite a lot.  She even quoted Sandy!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2007, 03:28:05 PM
Seems like I have joined her shit list....
How on earth am I ever going to sleep at night?
 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::

That's ok... she's on my list too...  :flame:
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 03:58:35 PM
Quote
Seems like I have joined her shit list....


So what cha' going to do now that you're on her list Sandy?

Sandy:  I'm going to Disneyland. :rofl: (http://http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z167/cookiecutter_bucket/Grammy.jpg)  Isn't he cute?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2007, 04:05:24 PM
Definitely deserves a celebration!!!
That's the best idea that comes to mind to do with all the free time I'll have now that she doesn't call me.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 04:11:46 PM
Yup.  Can you say "bye-bye Izzy". (http://http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z167/cookiecutter_bucket/misc0005.gif)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 06, 2007, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""


We need ideas.
Money's nice too, but as of yet I can't say exactly how it will be spent. The overall objective is to make Fornits.com a self sustaining net publication similar in structure to FARK or Something Awful or Huffington Post (that's vague, I know, but there is a common thread in there somewhere we just have to further define it)


How does that work, some special server or am I missing the point completely?

Note to self: Self get another job, hand over cash to Ginger...
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Quote
Note to self: Self get another job, hand over cash to Ginger...


Is that an attempt at levity?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2007, 07:39:30 PM
Bump
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 07, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: "hanzomon4"
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""


We need ideas.
Money's nice too, but as of yet I can't say exactly how it will be spent. The overall objective is to make Fornits.com a self sustaining net publication similar in structure to FARK or Something Awful or Huffington Post (that's vague, I know, but there is a common thread in there somewhere we just have to further define it)

How does that work, some special server or am I missing the point completely?
Quote

Ok, check out these sites:

http://fark.com/ (http://fark.com/)
http://somethingawful.com/ (http://somethingawful.com/)
http://huffingtonpost.com/ (http://huffingtonpost.com/)
(especially http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz) )
I'm sure there are many other similar sites. Just brows around and see if any of these capture your interest. If you're inclined to, register and participate. You can put your favorite Fornits link into your signature file so that every post will generate more links back here. You can post comments, forum posts, submit articles to FARK like sites, etc. The idea is to connect with the like minded netizens of Cyberia and bring this travesty of justice to their attention. We have a slight advantage in that Sue Scheff has to pay people to fabricate a clean and upstanding reputation for her. We have the truth driven by righteous outrage.
 
Quote
Note to self: Self get another job, hand over cash to Ginger...


No! Some people have more money than time. If you're not one of those then don't even think of it. I'm sort of a freak for efficiency. Whatever you decide to do to help, I want you to accomplish more than just helping fornits in the process. At the very least, you should enjoy doing it and, hopefully, make new friends, meet new and interesting people and learn something valuable from it.

I'm waiting for permission from my friends to post a picture from the party I attended last weekend just to illustrate what I mean. While this whole site and related projects do deal with intensely serious issues and we are doing some good, I'm not burning myself out or letting it consume me and I hope no one else is either.
Title: ...'post whatever I want'...
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 09, 2007, 03:44:11 PM
I freaked when I tried to logon and got that error message.  I'm joining ALL the sites with a Fornits signature...

Oh Ca-na-da!

Thankyou
Title: Re: ...'post whatever I want'...
Post by: Antigen on August 09, 2007, 06:28:23 PM
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
I freaked when I tried to logon and got that error message.  I'm joining ALL the sites with a Fornits signature...

Oh Ca-na-da!

Thankyou


Oh, thank you!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: TimeBomb on August 10, 2007, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
If anybody wants to help there are a few things that we need.

We need a good consult on banner advertising and ad brokers.
We need individual advertisers who could benefit from linking their name to this somewhat controversial website.
We need help countering Sue's manipulation of the search engines.
We need links and references on sites like Fark, Encyclopedia Dramatica or any other site which you may frequent. (a reference in your signature is a good way to effortlessly give a little promo)

We need ideas.
Money's nice too, but as of yet I can't say exactly how it will be spent. The overall objective is to make Fornits.com a self sustaining net publication similar in structure to FARK or Something Awful or Huffington Post (that's vague, I know, but there is a common thread in there somewhere we just have to further define it)


Ginger, have you ever looked into the http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hostin ... _tools.htm (http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hosting/activist_tools.htm)

Hell, you might even try taking a stab at an OSI grant.

Some ideas anyway.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 10, 2007, 10:29:28 AM
Holy crap! Now that's a turn around. I used to be very active w/ Mapinc. When I started Fornits, they sort of refused to help because they'd gotten on the 'treatment not incarceration' bandwaggon. I guess they've had a change of heart. I should talk to them. Thanks!
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 10, 2007, 10:34:30 AM
I think you misunderstand. I just did a quick check. They still say forced treatment like it's a good thing. One example:

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n930/a06.html?210 (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n930/a06.html?210)

I don't want to go to war with them, though. They're basically on the right track and do a whole lot of good. I'm just waiting for them to finally come around and recognize their error. Not holding out much hope anymore, though. I know where their money comes from, much of it anyway and the primary big buck supporters are invested in treatment and insurance.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: TimeBomb on August 10, 2007, 11:01:09 AM
Well that's just a newspaper article. I didn't see anything that says it's representative of their views. But I really don't know. I just figured it was up their ally, especially after seeing Trebach's site listed on their list of clients. http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hosting/clients.htm (http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hosting/clients.htm)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 10, 2007, 11:08:36 AM
No, it was a published letter to an editor. Robert Sharpe, I think was the author. Last I checked, Arnie had sort of parted ways with Drug Policy Foundation. They even changed their name to Drug Policy Alliance.

But dig this gem from the topic next door.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=276188#276188 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=276188#276188)

This is pretty much all that MAPinc does, except that they have it exceptionally well organized and it's got a whole lot of momentum.

We could set aside a space where we could aggregate articles and other media relating to our issues so that anyone who wants to can easily browse the news of the day relating to our issues and easily respond. This is what I've tried several times to launch as the Cassandra Project.

If there's interest enough, and I think there is at this point, then maybe it's time to trot old lady (Cassandra) out again and see if she'll dance?

What do yenz all think are the best ways to organize such an effort?
Title: Sue Scheff & PURE Challenged by Fornits and Ginger Warbi
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2007, 09:03:46 AM
An Engaging Game of I-Chess:
Who is Ginger Warbis of Fornits.com?

Written by: Paula Reeves
www.paulareeves.com (http://www.paulareeves.com)

August 10, 2007

The “Internet Wolverine” responds to threats by Sue Scheff, her company PURE (Parents Universal Resource Experts), and others in the private “teen help” business:

“Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can’t.” -Ginger Warbis, August 2007-

Ginger Warbis, living somewhere in Virginia, is no ordinary woman. She began her controversial electronic publishing site at Fornits.com over five years ago. Flanked and protected, pro bono, by Attorney Philip Elberg, Warbis is fearless in her exposure of the burgeoning and dangerously unregulated industry called the “troubled teen” or “teen help” industry.

If you dare enter Ginger Warbis’ Web World, you are forewarned that it is not for the weak of heart. The posts are crude and nasty at times, but most hit to the heart of a uniquely American tragedy.

“Oh, the irony of it all,” Ginger Warbis exclaims in a recent post on her site as she writes under the pen name of “Scarlett Chiclet.” In the span of a few years, this angry advocate has transformed herself from a rough hewn virtual-vigilante to a witty, raunchy publicist who isn’t afraid of anyone, anywhere, anytime. Whether you like her or not, one cannot help but admire the tenacity of Ginger Warbis and her band of mischievous Internet crusaders.

Warbis’ arch-enemy at the moment is Sue Scheff, a self-proclaimed “resource expert,” who places children in programs, sometime unsafe ones, that pay Scheff substantial sums of money. According to bloggers, Scheff recently tried to shut down the Fornits.com site and silence Ms. Warbis’ prolific criticism of Scheff and others like Scheff.

In response, Warbis moved her Internet presence to Canada. The Fornits.com site is now spawning anti-Sue Scheff sites too numerous to track, such as www.sueschefftruth.com (http://www.sueschefftruth.com).

Why is Ginger Warbis so tenacious and tough? She characterizes herself as a “prisoner of war” who survived the now defunct Straight Program. As a child in the early 1980s, Warbis said she was held against her will for two years at Straight in Florida, deprived of a meaningful education, and forced to confess and engage in acts against her will.

Attorney Elberg, who defends Warbis’ right to speak, has won multi-million dollar settlements against those victimizing children in private programs. Elberg also criticizes Scheff and her practices of using her money to silence those who disagree with her.

In an apparent response to Sue Scheff’s attempt to take down Fornits.com, Ginger Warbis challenges:

“Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. . . .”

With the help of Attorney Elberg, she won dismissal of a 2004 case that Sue Scheff, the wealthy heiress, and PURE, filed against Warbis for defamation and invasion of privacy.

Underscoring her determination, Warbis writes: “You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarrassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. I'm made of stone . . . . tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance. . . .”

It does not appear that Ginger Warbis will be folding Fornits.com anytime soon. In the meantime, Sue Scheff has hired a company to saturate the Internet with self-created positive comments and web sites about her and her company, in the hope of countering the mounting guerilla forces of Ginger Warbis and Fornits.com.

copyright 2007 Paula Reeves
www.paulareeves.com (http://www.paulareeves.com)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2007, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""BuzzKill""
Quote from: ""Guest""
No, she said she filed a report with BSO and the FBI about alleged death threats against her here.  As far as anyone can find out, nothing has been filed.
 
She also said that 20/20 was doing a story on her.  They've never heard of her.

Ahh - I see! Thanks a bunch. That make sense. But would a county office have records on a complaint to the FBI?

She claimed she contacted both.  Check the email (linked to in first post) as well as the hilarious attachments.  She seems to like my quotes quite a lot.  She even quoted Sandy!

 
Sue is obviously looking to defend herself.Attacking those who tell the truth is nothing new.Those who take the truth and manipulate it to serve their own purpose or illness is a staple of what I have seen Fornits become. Freedom is one thing. Accountability is another.
You reap what you sew.
I am certain that Sue will "pay" for her crimes against children. I have no doubt. I also have no doubt of her guilt.
Title: Another Blog Spot on Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2007, 09:50:01 AM
www.sueschefffornits.blogspot.com (http://www.sueschefffornits.blogspot.com)
Title: the evil Empress...
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 16, 2007, 11:40:25 AM
Missed y'all for a few days there.
You guys REALLY rock -thx.

Someone told me to suggest Aries to you. :question:
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 03:10:26 PM
But the stables of truth are diversifying...

Sue-Sue would have to nuke the internet to cover up the truth now!

http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf (http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf)
http://www.sueschefftruth.com (http://www.sueschefftruth.com)
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheff-pure-sued (http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheff-pure-sued)
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheffs-undocumented-case (http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheffs-undocumented-case)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... itstart=20 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=26&func=view&id=228&catid=4&limit=10&limitstart=20)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/2 ... 267011.htm (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/267/RipOff0267011.htm)
http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/ (http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/)
http://www.netscape.com/tag/sue+scheff (http://www.netscape.com/tag/sue+scheff)
http://sueschefftruth.com/?p=8 (http://sueschefftruth.com/?p=8)
http://www.hugg.com/taxonomy/term/1155 (http://www.hugg.com/taxonomy/term/1155)
http://www.xomba.com/who_is_sue_scheff (http://www.xomba.com/who_is_sue_scheff)
http://claimid.com/realsuescheff (http://claimid.com/realsuescheff)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-orleans-la/T0KS82CNBMB0HBD6H)
http://www.corank.com/tech/tag/Sue%20Scheff (http://www.corank.com/tech/tag/Sue%20Scheff)
http://family.netscape.com/story/2007/0 ... ff-lawsuit (http://family.netscape.com/story/2007/08/15/child-abuse-alleged-in-green-vs-pure-sue-scheff-lawsuit)
http://www.stumbleupon.com/tag/sue-scheff (http://www.stumbleupon.com/tag/sue-scheff)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... 1&catid=13 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=&func=view&id=2191&catid=13)
http://reddit.com/search?q=%22Sue+Scheff%22 (http://reddit.com/search?q=%22Sue+Scheff%22)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/new-orleans-la/T0KS82CNBMB0HBD6H)
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=653572&mc=20&forum_id=2)
http://www.care2.com/news/member/847797324/451087 (http://www.care2.com/news/member/847797324/451087)
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=671777&mc=3&forum_id=2)
http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/s ... ctory.html (http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/suescheffemptyvictory.html)
http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007 ... -to-censor (http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007/08/15/the-strange-story-sue-scheff-reputation-defender-want-to-censor)
http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Ac ... Sue_Scheff (http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Academy_Green_vs_FPA_Sue_Scheff)
http://www.nowpublic.net/what-sue-schef ... elp-censor (http://www.nowpublic.net/what-sue-scheff-wants-reputation-defender-help-censor)
http://www.xomba.com/tags/sue_scheff (http://www.xomba.com/tags/sue_scheff)
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=671777&mc=3&forum_id=2)
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=671777&mc=3&forum_id=2)
http://bloggerproxy.info/proxy-11575.htm (http://bloggerproxy.info/proxy-11575.htm)
http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/s ... ctory.html (http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/suescheffemptyvictory.html)
http://sueschefffornits.blogspot.com (http://sueschefffornits.blogspot.com)
http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Ac ... Sue_Scheff (http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Academy_Green_vs_FPA_Sue_Scheff)
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Sue_S ... s_Horrific (http://digg.com/political_opinion/Sue_Scheff_PURE_and_Others_Accused_of_Fraud_by_Florida_Parents_Horrific)
http://reddit.com/info/2et1a/comments (http://reddit.com/info/2et1a/comments)
http:// fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=276944&sid=3d85e55b5a87b8dc2d93278c7165f009

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007 ... -to-censor (http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007/08/15/the-strange-story-sue-scheff-reputation-defender-want-to-censor)
http://www.ziki.com/en/people/suescheffretort (http://www.ziki.com/en/people/suescheffretort)
http://www.cyroxos.net/articles/Sue.php (http://www.cyroxos.net/articles/Sue.php)
http://www.corank.com/tech/story/carey- ... Sue-Scheff (http://www.corank.com/tech/story/carey-Bock-v-Sue-Scheff)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2007, 05:39:11 PM
They're not for you to sift through.  They're for clicking on and bumping up.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 17, 2007, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
 They're for clicking on and bumping up.


What's this?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 17, 2007, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
Quote from: ""Guest""
 They're for clicking on and bumping up.

What's this?


Gets the truth bumped up the google page count
Title: fly-by
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 18, 2007, 02:56:55 PM
...idiot-speak[/i], please!

on account of...
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2007, 03:11:32 PM
The more people click on those links (they have the real truth about Sue posted), the further up the Google search they'll show up.  Right now she's paid someone to spam it all up with bullshit lies about how wonderful she is.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 18, 2007, 04:29:15 PM
So if I read them, which I have been, I'm helping and getting a clue, yes?
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2007, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: ""3xsaSeedling""
So if I read them, which I have been, I'm helping and getting a clue, yes?

Good
Good
Someone should get the truth out
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2007, 12:21:03 PM
this looks like the lastest list

http://sueschefftruth.com (http://sueschefftruth.com)
http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf (http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf)
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheff-pure-sued (http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheff-pure-sued)
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheffs-undocumented-case (http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheffs-undocumented-case)
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Sue_Scheff (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Sue_Scheff)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... 15&catid=4 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=26&func=view&id=615&catid=4)
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=653572&mc=16&forum_id=2)
http://www.careybock.com/default.asp (http://www.careybock.com/default.asp)
http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/ (http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/)
http://suescheffsuescheffsuescheff.blogspot.com (http://suescheffsuescheffsuescheff.blogspot.com)
http://www.corank.com/tech/tag/Sue%20Scheff (http://www.corank.com/tech/tag/Sue%20Scheff)
http://www.rollyo.com/suescheffretort/sue_scheff_truth (http://www.rollyo.com/suescheffretort/sue_scheff_truth)
http://www.netscape.com/story/2007/08/1 ... -to-censor (http://www.netscape.com/story/2007/08/15/the-strange-story-sue-scheff-reputation-defender-want-to-censor)
http://family.netscape.com/story/2007/0 ... -to-censor (http://family.netscape.com/story/2007/08/17/what-sue-scheff-wants-to-censor)
http://www.ziki.com/en/companies/sueschefftruth (http://www.ziki.com/en/companies/sueschefftruth)
http://www.xomba.com/who_is_sue_scheff (http://www.xomba.com/who_is_sue_scheff)
http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=8 (http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=8)
http://www.hugg.com/taxonomy/term/1155 (http://www.hugg.com/taxonomy/term/1155)
http://www.topix.net/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK (http://www.topix.net/forum/state/oh/TTJD0HO9L3UTRGDNK)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-orleans-la/T0KS82CNBMB0HBD6H)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... 6&catid=13 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=&func=view&id=2186&catid=13)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/new-orleans-la/T0KS82CNBMB0HBD6H)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/2 ... 267011.htm (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/267/RipOff0267011.htm)
http://www.xomba.com/tags/sue_scheff (http://www.xomba.com/tags/sue_scheff)
http://reddit.com/search?q=%22Sue+Scheff%22 (http://reddit.com/search?q=%22Sue+Scheff%22)
http://reddit.com/info/2et1a/comments (http://reddit.com/info/2et1a/comments)
http://www.rootpages.com/sue/scheff/page.aspx (http://www.rootpages.com/sue/scheff/page.aspx)
http://www.care2.com/news/member/847797324/451087 (http://www.care2.com/news/member/847797324/451087)
http://www.ziki.com/en/companies/suesch ... h/api/rank (http://www.ziki.com/en/companies/sueschefftruth/api/rank)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19905 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19905)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19905 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19905)
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Carey_Bock_ ... ights_Back (http://digg.com/gaming_news/Carey_Bock_Responding_to_Sue_Scheff_and_PURE_Katrina_Victim_Fights_Back)
http://digg.com/videos/people/Lawsuit_e ... _Nightmare (http://digg.com/videos/people/Lawsuit_exposes_PURE_Sue_Scheff_Nightmare)
http://www.cyroxos.net/articles/Sue.php (http://www.cyroxos.net/articles/Sue.php)
http://www.corank.com/tech/story/carey- ... Sue-Scheff (http://www.corank.com/tech/story/carey-Bock-v-Sue-Scheff)
http://fornits.com (http://fornits.com)
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
And let each page fully load before you close the window or tab. If you close the connection before it loads or times out it counts for less.
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Antigen on August 20, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
Some of these blogs n such are actually generating interest from the uninitiated. Take a little time if you've got it to read and respond to these folks and, maybe, invite them over here if they want to know more.
Title: free for all
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2007, 10:59:22 AM
At any time that fornits needs a home, or hosting i will gladly provide it free of charge and i will take on any legal battles and issues. This includes Ms. Sheffs complaints.

To Ginger
From - Your old Fame Haven Sarasota friend. You know me well.
Title: Re: free for all
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2007, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
At any time that fornits needs a home, or hosting i will gladly provide it free of charge and i will take on any legal battles and issues. This includes Ms. Sheffs complaints.

To Ginger
From - Your old Fame Haven Sarasota friend. You know me well.




Thanks kind stranger.  I'm sure she'll be along soon. :D
Title: Sue declares war on fornits explained!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2007, 09:41:09 PM
If Google or the other search engines are playing hanky-panky with stuff that has Sue's name on it, intentionally misspell her name and post away.

People will find it. By word of mouth, people will start to think that's the correct spelling. Use Susan, Suzanne, Sue-anne. Schef, Sheff, Sheffe, Scheffe, all combinations. "Sue (from PURE) Scheff" is unlikely to trigger Google's "we took it off because it's a trademark" and is likely to come up somewhere in the search.

Computers are usually easier to confuse than they are to make confusion-proof.

Julie Cochrane
(former database programmer)

Disclaimer: Everybody's entitled to be discussed truthfully, especially people whose behavior can't stand the light of day. I do not--ever--recommend saying false things about bad people. It distracts attention from the true things.