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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: TheWho on July 27, 2007, 09:56:21 PM
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This is for the dumbass we know as "Who".....
Wow, thanks for the information, I think. Probably a good guess that you are not employed in any form of teaching capacity.
If the school has 160 kids there is no way they are going to hire 40 master level counselors (in my opinion). This would be way over kill in the counseling department. The way I read it is each group (13 kids) is assigned 2 master level counselors and under these counselors would be assistant counselors. The master leveled counselors would oversee more than one group, while the assistant counselors would be more one-on one. This would make more sense from a financial and therapeutic stand point. I cant see why HLA would want to dedicate 2 MS to a group of 13 when they have assistants to help them. So each group would have 2 counselors, but the counselors would have more than 1 group.
I am not saying this is how it is done, but I would have the master leveled counselors overseeing more than one group with the assistance of the undergraduates , if the standards allowed.
Does anyone have any state or federal guide lines that may shed some more light on this?
So to summerize my thoughts:
1) There is a little disagreement on the interpretation of the counseling oversight, which is understandable based on the wording.
2) They don’t appear to be violating any standards.
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the who, you're an idiot. dont talk about hla when you dont know anything about it.
the "assistant counselors" are not actually counselors. they dont do any counseling whatsoever. they are essentially the nannies for the student body. their job consists of escorting kids around either in groups or individually, watching them as they do their day to day business, stand in the hallways during school hours, enforce rules, write people up, but usually it just involves standing around and taking orders over a radio.
HLA claims to have counselors with masters level degrees, 2 per peer group, 2 for every 13-15 kids. exept only about half had masters level degrees, and most counselors had at least two peer groups.
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and HLA does not have 160 students. They have around 50 students these days.
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the who, you're an idiot. dont talk about hla when you dont know anything about it.
the "assistant counselors" are not actually counselors. they dont do any counseling whatsoever. they are essentially the nannies for the student body. their job consists of escorting kids around either in groups or individually, watching them as they do their day to day business, stand in the hallways during school hours, enforce rules, write people up, but usually it just involves standing around and taking orders over a radio.
HLA claims to have counselors with masters level degrees, 2 per peer group, 2 for every 13-15 kids. exept only about half had masters level degrees, and most counselors had at least two peer groups.
Like it was mentioned above. The master leveled counselors may have oversight over more than one group while they get assistance from counselors with Bachelor’s degrees.
I think we can argue about this all day, but the bottom line is that HLA meets and exceeds all state and federal requirements in this area. It appears you are hung up on the wording.
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HLA meets and exceeds all state and federal requirements
god, you are a moron. if hla met or exceeded any standards they wouldn't have been forced to LICENSE. running an unlicensed treatment center is only ONE of the instances in which HLA FAILED to meet or exceed standards.
you obviously know nothing of "state and federal requirements" or you wouldn't spout this OBVIOUS LIE. is telling blatant lies part of "adding value and balance"?
FACT: HLA was and is in violation of several state and federal regulations and has been given 6 months by ORS to either MEET or EXCEED their various deficiencies or CLOSE UP SHOP.
whom should readers believe, the ORS and CPS files showing dozens of violations at HLA and Ridge Creek, or the noted prvaricator and asshole, TheWho?
i'll stick with the oversight agencies who have handed down severe sanctions on HLA and Ridge Creek based on facts gathered from INVESTIGATIONS, nto some lunatic program pimp who claims to be bias neutral while promoting programs with LIES.
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HLA meets and exceeds all state and federal requirements
god, you are a moron. if hla met or exceeded any standards they wouldn't have been forced to LICENSE. running an unlicensed treatment center is only ONE of the instances in which HLA FAILED to meet or exceed standards.
you obviously know nothing of "state and federal requirements" or you wouldn't spout this OBVIOUS LIE. is telling blatant lies part of "adding value and balance"?
FACT: HLA was and is in violation of several state and federal regulations and has been given 6 months by ORS to either MEET or EXCEED their various deficiencies or CLOSE UP SHOP.
whom should readers believe, the ORS and CPS files showing dozens of violations at HLA and Ridge Creek, or the noted prvaricator and asshole, TheWho?
i'll stick with the oversight agencies who have handed down severe sanctions on HLA and Ridge Creek based on facts gathered from INVESTIGATIONS, nto some lunatic program pimp who claims to be bias neutral while promoting programs with LIES.
So getting back on topic, you cannot provide any specific areas where HLA is not meeting or exceeding requirements as they apply to HLA's Counselors. Just the usual rhetoric
1) HLA employs Master leveled Counelors for the kids
2) HLA employs Bachelor leveled counselors for the kids.
I think after 4 days of no one coming to the table with information that this violates any standards we can agree HLA is in compliance (in this area) and move on.
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listen, dummy, it's ALL BEENPOSTED BEFORE. why are you so lazy? do your own work. HLA's and RC's violations have been posted in several threads. just because YOU'RE ignorant, doesn't mean that the violations are any less factual.
to summarize: TheWho is an ignorant bastard, and HLA/RC violations have been posted all over this site and elsewhere.
TheWho: if all standards are/were met, why is HLA forced into becoming licensed as an RCF? isn't the licensing issue a result of many violations over many years? think about it, dildo.
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just a few facts to set the table for TheWho's next lie feast...
Unqualified Staff:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=15667&start=0 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=15667&start=0)
Physical Punishments:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=16869&start=0 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=16869&start=0)
(this also includes sending kids to RC without documentation or treatment plans, which is illegal and they've been cited for it)
No Fire Drills/Evacuation Plans:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17838&start=0 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17838&start=0)
Strip Searches (illegal at RCF's):
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... hlight=ors (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17356&highlight=ors)
Reading/Censoring Mail (illegal at RCF's)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=14735&start=0 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=14735&start=0)
Staff With Diploma Mill degrees (illegal everywhere):
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... ight=phony (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=14370&highlight=phony)
ok, so this took me like 5 minutes. is TheWho just lazy, or stupid as well?
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just a few facts to set the table for TheWho's next lie feast...
Okay, I read thru and did not find any requirements inwhich HLA is violating as it applies to their hiring of Master leveled and Bachelor leveled counselors.
Please be specific, all you did was cut and past links to other peoples opinions and negative arguments. I think we should take a look at what the state and industry dictates as standards and compare these to what HLA does. Are they in compliance or not?
Then we should transfer this information, very clearly, to the parents thinking of sending their children to HLA. Not vague accusations.
HLA hires and maintains Counselors with Masters and Bachelors degrees. Does the state require something different and if so what?
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Great, so the question is to those who do know what they are talking about.
Are we set and in agreement that HLA meets or exceeds all requirements as they pertain to the hiring of Master and Bachelor degreed Counselors?
It sounds like a yes, because no standards have been brought to the table that show a violation in this area.
Lets give this another day to see if anyone can dig something up before we close it out, I think this is an important issue.
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Don't feed the trolls, kids!
The quickest way to make The Who go away is to ignore him. He feeds off of our responses to him. Just ignore what he says - it's usually wrong and contributes nothing helpful to the conversation anyway - and he'll go away.
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Amen. But he won't let little details like he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about get in the wway of collecting referral fees for sending kids to HLA.
He obviously didn't read the links provided, because the first one shows hires without degrees of any kind. He must have "missed" that one.
We're "all in agreement" that TheWho is a mron that has no clue about HLA or really anything else for that matter.
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Lets give this another day to see if anyone can dig something up before we close it out,
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As if you are in a position to make decisions for this forum. Psychopath.
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The quickest way to make The Who go away is to ignore him. He feeds off of our responses to him. Just ignore what he says - it's usually wrong and contributes nothing helpful to the conversation anyway - and he'll go away.
I suggested this a long time ago, and many (like yourself) have suggested it since...but it seems there will always be those tweakers who can't resist the urge to get into it with him....
Remember that Uncle Remus story about the Tar Baby?
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Great, so the question is to those who do know what they are talking about.
Are we set and in agreement that HLA meets or exceeds all requirements as they pertain to the hiring of Master and Bachelor degreed Counselors?
It sounds like a yes, because no standards have been brought to the table that show a violation in this area.
Lets give this another day to see if anyone can dig something up before we close it out, I think this is an important issue.
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You still don't get it, you ignorant, ignorant man. The question is not whether HLA is meeting the state's licensing requirements. If they are making improvements to meet those standards, then fine. The point is that they do not provide what they advertise. They claim that all peer groups will be supervised by masters-level counselors, and that is not the case - people who have gone through the program have posted on here their first-hand experiences. You come on here having no knowledge of HLA whatsoever, and think that you can claim to know what you are talking about? Good God, man, you are even more arrogant than I thought.
Let's pose a question to you and see if you have the guts to answer it. Why are you so very interested in HLA?
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because he wants ASPEN to buy it. his interest is twofold: one, he wants ASPEN to buy HLA and two, he supports ALL programs no matter the facts surrounding them.
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The quickest way to make The Who go away is to ignore him. He feeds off of our responses to him. Just ignore what he says - it's usually wrong and contributes nothing helpful to the conversation anyway - and he'll go away.
I suggested this a long time ago, and many (like yourself) have suggested it since...but it seems there will always be those tweakers who can't resist the urge to get into it with him....
Remember that Uncle Remus story about the Tar Baby?
LOL
Lord, I love that story!
So true though...we have lots of Brer Rabbits on here. I'm guilty of it myself.
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Are we set and in agreement that HLA meets or exceeds all requirements as they pertain to the hiring of Master and Bachelor degreed Counselors?
No.
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Great, so the question is to those who do know what they are talking about.
Are we set and in agreement that HLA meets or exceeds all requirements as they pertain to the hiring of Master and Bachelor degreed Counselors?
It sounds like a yes, because no standards have been brought to the table that show a violation in this area.
Lets give this another day to see if anyone can dig something up before we close it out, I think this is an important issue.
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You still don't get it, you ignorant, ignorant man. The question is not whether HLA is meeting the state's licensing requirements. If they are making improvements to meet those standards, then fine. The point is that they do not provide what they advertise. They claim that all peer groups will be supervised by masters-level counselors, and that is not the case - people who have gone through the program have posted on here their first-hand experiences. You come on here having no knowledge of HLA whatsoever, and think that you can claim to know what you are talking about? Good God, man, you are even more arrogant than I thought.
Let's pose a question to you and see if you have the guts to answer it. Why are you so very interested in HLA?
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.
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If you have not had a kid at HLA and gone thru what HLA put us families thru, you really are not worthy of an opinion because you know NOT what you are talking about.
Great, so the question is to those who do know what they are talking about.
Are we set and in agreement that HLA meets or exceeds all requirements as they pertain to the hiring of Master and Bachelor degreed Counselors?
It sounds like a yes, because no standards have been brought to the table that show a violation in this area.
Lets give this another day to see if anyone can dig something up before we close it out, I think this is an important issue.
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You still don't get it, you ignorant, ignorant man. The question is not whether HLA is meeting the state's licensing requirements. If they are making improvements to meet those standards, then fine. The point is that they do not provide what they advertise. They claim that all peer groups will be supervised by masters-level counselors, and that is not the case - people who have gone through the program have posted on here their first-hand experiences. You come on here having no knowledge of HLA whatsoever, and think that you can claim to know what you are talking about? Good God, man, you are even more arrogant than I thought.
Let's pose a question to you and see if you have the guts to answer it. Why are you so very interested in HLA?
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.
Answer my question first.
Why are you so very interested in HLA?
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My apologies for not logging in previously. I posted this question, not "the who".
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.
Thank you for your response.
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Why are you so very interested in HLA?
The discussion caught my eye when I saw someone posting information from some girls wedding announcement and claiming that she wasn’t qualified to be a counselor at HLA. I didn’t know how the 2 connected and was curious of what the requirements were to be a counselor and/ or an addictions counselor. No one seemed to be able to tell me, all I got was people trying to run the subject off topic.
This sparked my interest as I am a parent to several children and from a parents point of view the information seemed to be one sided or tainted like it came from an ex-employee and not worthy to be used to base a decision. So I thought I could try to keep the discussion focused and on track and maybe nail down the requirements for counselors and how they compare to what HLA does.
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the information seemed to be one sided or tainted like it came from an ex-employee and not worthy to be used to base a decision.
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could there possibly be a better witness/source than an ex-employee? what makes you think ex-employess would provide biased information?
i dont get it. when some parents read this site, they think anything negative is biased and anything positive about hla is true. in fact, it's quite the opposite. Note how hla has their own forums, which are censored and have only glowing, positive things said about hla and anything with the slightest grain of negativity gets deleted. Fornits on the other hand, although current hla administrators continue to flood this forum with their ilogical and paper-thin defences; we do not ban them. there are issues with some individuals such as "thewho", since he has absolutely no affiliation, connection, or knowledge about hidden lake, which is why measures have been taken against him. the reason many of these pages are filled with vulgarities and personal attacks is because it's a highly emotional topic. keep in mind that many of these posters who are kids, on top of having previous emotional trouble, were psychologically, mentaly, and spiritually abused for 1.5-3 years in the name of "therapy". no wonder the kids are pissed, and no wonder Hidden lake is getting on the defensive [even online], their mistakes are coming to bite them in the ass, there going to be going from middle-class, high reputation to impoverished and shunned. what do you expect? i thought the average individual has common sense, after all, it's callled common sense for a reason.
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Just posting it again so the question doesn't get lost in the shuffle...
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.
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i dont get it. when some parents read this site, they think anything negative is biased and anything positive about hla is true. in fact, it's quite the opposite.
Positive information goes down so much easier than negative info. So based on this you need to be careful not to slam people or businesses to the ground or throw all logic out the window or allow your emotions to get the best of you when conveying a negative position, sour grapes etc. turn people off to the message you may be trying to convey. Most program parents are familiar with disgruntled employees (if they are active in the working world) and understand there is more going on besides these type of people just trying to convey the truth so they proceed with caution.
Most parents will respond to a very clear and concise topical discussion which lays out the requirements and compare them to what is being done. This is why I have tried to lead this discussion down the path of discovering facts and trying to compare requirements to what HLA is doing today. This will be good for everyone (it�s a win-win all around) and allow the parents to make a decision based on honest and balanced information.
A good start may be to answer �HLA Truth��s question:
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.�
If there are groups which went without a master leveled counselor I think this would be information that parents would like to know. Lets name the group and then we can proceed to determine the root cause on how this happened. To just wave our hands and say they don�t provide this service isn�t something the parents reading this thread are going to swallow.
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"Masters Level" is a load of dogshit. Either you have the Master's Degree or you don't.
And diploma mills don't count.
Nor does a counselor shared between two peer groups.
Let's have answers, if at all possible.
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My apologies for not logging in previously. I posted this question, not "the who".
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.
Thank you for your response.
You were there and being that you were the only one qualified, you would know. After you left, there was no one left that was certified. For heavens'sake, there are people there with diploma mill degrees .
Some said they graduated from certain schools that do not even offer couseling degrees. So go figure...You want to know why Hollowhead and McMillon never got certified? Clay Erikson is not certified to be an addictions counselor either.
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Clay Erikson is not certified to be an addictions counselor either.
How come the parents and other readers can get any straight answers around here?
Which groups didnt have counselors with masters degrees?
Where is it stated that the counselors need to be certified? Which state law requires this?
Again lets compare the requirements to what is actually being done so that the parents can make an informed decision.
How come everyone keeps changing the subject? People keep saying this has been discussed in the past, where are the links to the state requirements? Lets tie this together and let the readers know where HLA is falling short on this. Is it that hard to do?
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They tried to pawn this guy off as a Peer Group Counselor originially until we challenged his qualifications to be a PG Counselor since he doesn't have a Masters Degree. Lenny - glad you listened to us. BTW - He's the only one HLA is still referring to as an AC - Assistant Counselor - all of the former ACs have quit or had their titles changed.
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=207 (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadProfile.aspx?userID=207)
Scott Smith
Assistant Counselor
B.S. Sociology, North Georgia College and State U., Dahlonega, GA Certificate of completion, Jerusalem University., Israel Scott is married and has one child, hobbies include landscape design, fishing, drama, cooking, archaeology, biblical studies, and family time.
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43-10A-7. Licensing requirement; exceptions (a) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a person who is not licensed under thischapter shall not practice professional counseling, social work, or marriage and family therapy, nor advertise the performance of such practice, nor use the title "professional counselor," "associate professional counselor," "social worker," "marriage and family therapist," or "associate marriage and family therapist," nor use any words, letters, titles, or figures indicating or implying that the person is a professional counselor, associate professional counselor, social worker, marriage and family therapist, or associate marriage and family therapist or is licensed under this chapter.(b) The prohibition of subsection (a) of this Code section shall not apply to the following persons:
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(e) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to prohibit the licensed practice of nursing or the performance of duties which constitute a standard procedure of the practice of medicine by any person acting under the direct supervision of a licensed medical doctor, provided that such supervised persons are qualified by virtue of their education, training,
or experience to perform such duties and that such persons shall not use any titles indicating or implying that they are licensed under this chapter.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-7, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1987, p. 3, § 43; Ga. L. 1989, p. 825, § 1; Ga. L. 1993, p. 330, § 3; Ga. L. 1994, p. 97, § 43; Ga. L. 1994, p. 404, § 1; Ga. L. 1994, p. 450, § 2; Ga. L. 1994, p. 953, § 1; Ga. L. 1996, p. 701, §§ 1, 2; Ga. L. 1996, p. 843, § 1; Ga. L. 1996, p. 1073, § 1; Ga. L. 1997, p. 1387, §§ 1, 2; Ga. L. 2000, p. 136, § 43; Ga. L. 2000, p. 1584, § 2; Ga. L. 2003, p. 312, § 1.
43-10A-8. Eligibility for licensure
No person shall be eligible for licensure under this chapter unless such person furnishes satisfactory evidence to the board of all of the following:
(1) Having met the education, training, and experience requirements of Code Section 43-10A-11, 43-10A-12, or 43-10A-13 regarding that specialty for which a license is sought;
(2) Having successfully passed the examination established for that specialty under Code Section 43-10A-9, except that persons meeting the requirements of subparagraph (a)(2)(A) of Code Section 43-10A-13 shall not be required to pass such examination;
(3) Having paid any required license fee; and
(4) Having furnished at least two personal references from supervisors, teachers, or any combination thereof.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-8, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1989, p. 825, § 2; Ga. L.1996, p. 843, § 2.
43-10A-9. Examination
The board shall provide for the conduct of examinations for licensure in each specialty at least twice a year. Examinations may be written, oral, experiential, or any combination thereof and shall deal with such theoretical and applied fields as prescribed by the board. The examinee's name shall not be disclosed to any person grading the examination until
that grading is complete.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-9, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-10. Licensure without examination
The board may issue a license without examination to any applicant licensed in a secialty under the laws of another jurisdiction having requirements for licensure in that specialty which are substantially equal to the licensure requirements for that specialty in this state.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-10, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1990, p. 1484, § 2.
43-10A-11. Requirements for licensure in professional counseling
(a) The education, experience, and training requirements for licensure in professional counseling are as follows:
(1) For licensure as an associate professional counselor, a master's degree from a recognized educational institution in a program that is primarily counseling in content which includes a supervised internship or practicum as part of the degree program and registration with the board of an acceptable contract for obtaining the post- master's experience under direction and supervision required for licensure as a professional counselor; and
(2) For licensure as a professional counselor:
(A) A doctoral degree from a recognized educational institution in a program that is primarily counseling in content and requires at least one year of supervised internship in a work setting acceptable to the board; or
(B) A specialist degree from a recognized educational institution in a program that is primarily counseling in content with supervised internship or practicum and two years of post-master's directed experience under supervision in a setting acceptable to the board; or
(C)(i) A master's degree in rehabilitation counseling or in a program that is primarily counseling in content from a recognized educational institution;
(ii) An internship or practicum supervised either by a supervisor, as defined in paragraph (16) of Code Section 43-10A-3, or by a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor certified as such by the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification;
(iii) The Certified Rehabilitation Counselor designation from the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification; and
(iv) Three years of post- master's directed experience providing rehabilitation services in a rehabilitation setting under supervision provided either by a supervisor, as defined in paragraph (16) of Code Section 43-10A-3, or by a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor certified as such by the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification. Up to one year of such experience may have been in an approved practicum or
internship placement as part of the degree program; or
(D) A master's degree from a recognized educational institution in a program that is primarily counseling in content with supervised internship or practicum and four years of post-master's directed experience under supervision in a setting acceptable to the board. Up to one year of such experience may have been in an approved practicum placement as part of the degree program.
(b) For purposes of subsection (a) of this Code section, work settings acceptable to the board may include, but are not limited to, educational, rehabilitation, career development, mental health, community, or industrial organizations.
(c) Associate professional counselors may only use the title "associate professional counselor" and may practice professional counseling only under direction and supervision and only for a period not to exceed five years while obtaining the postmaster's experience required for licensure as a professional counselor.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-11, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1990, p. 1484, § 3; Ga.L. 1993, p. 330, § 4; Ga. L. 1994, p. 450, § 3; Ga. L. 1997, p. 1387, § 3; Ga. L. 2002, p. 1479, §§ 2, 3.
43-10A-12. Requirements for licensure in social work; authorized services
(a) The education, experience, and training requirements for licensure in social work are as follows:
(1) For licensure as a master's social worker, a master's degree in social work from a program accredited by the Council on Social Work Education; and
(2) For licensure as a clinical social worker:
(A) A master's degree in social work from a program accredited by the Council on Social Work Education; and
(B) As defined by the board, three years' full- time supervised experience in the practice of social work following granting of the master's degree. Of the three years of supervised experience, only the first two must be under direction. A doctoral degree in a specialty, an allied profession, or child and family development may substitute for one year of such
experience. At least one year of experience shall have occurred within two years immediately preceding application for licensure as a clinical social worker or the applicant shall have met the continuing education requirement established by the board for clinical social work during the year immediately preceding application.
(b) Licensed master's social workers may render or offer to render to individuals, marriages, couples, families, groups, organizations, governmental units, or the general public service which is guided by knowledge of social resources, social systems, and human behavior. They may provide evaluation, prevention, and intervention services which include but are not restricted to community organization, counseling, and
supportive services such as administration, direction, supervision of bachelor's level social workers, consultation, research, or education. The first two years of their practice after licensure as a master's social worker shall be under direction and supervision. Thereafter, they may engage in private practice, except that those social workers whose practice includes counseling or psychotherapeutic techniques may only engage in such practice under the supervision of a duly qualified supervisor and only for such period of time as is prescribed for qualification to take the clinical social work licensing examination.
(c) Licensed clinical social workers may practice all authorized services of licensed master's social workers and may: provide supervision and direction; provide psychosocial evaluation through data collection and analyses to determine the nature of an individual's mental, cognitive, emotional, behavioral, and interpersonal problems or conditions; provide counseling and psychotherapy to individuals, marriages, couples, families, and groups; interpret the psychosocial dynamics of a situation and recommend and implement a course of action to individuals, marriages, couples, families, or groups in such settings as private practice, family service and counseling agencies, health care facilities, and schools; and provide direct evaluation, casework, social work advocacy, education,
training, prevention, and intervention services in situations threatened or affected by social, intrapersonal, or interpersonal stress or health impairment.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-12, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1987, p. 467, § 1; Ga. L.1990, p. 1484, §§ 4, 5; Ga. L. 1993, p. 330, § 5.
43-10A-13. Requirements for licensure in marriage and family therapy
(a) The education, experience, and training requirements for licensure in marriage and family therapy are as follows:
(1) For licensure as an associate marriage and family therapist, a master's degree in a program in marriage and family therapy or a program including a master's degree and additional post- master's degree coursework, both of which programs shall include three courses in marriage and family studies, three courses in marriage and family therapy, three courses in human development, one course in marriage and family therapy ethics, and one course in research, or from any program accredited by the Commission on Accreditation for Marriage and Family Therapy Education, which degree shall have been granted by a recognized educational institution; completion of a one-year practicum in marriage and family therapy under supervision before or after the granting of the master's degree, which practicum shall include 500 hours of direct clinical experience in marriage and family therapy and 100 hours of supervision of such experience; and registration with the board of an acceptable contract for obtaining the post-master's experience under direction and supervision required for licensure as a marriage and family therapist; and
(2) For licensure as a marriage and family therapist:
(A) Licensure as an associate marriage and family therapist and two years of full-time post- master's experience or its equivalent in the practice of marriage and family therapy under direction and supervision as an associate marriage and family therapist, which shall include a minimum of 2,000 hours of direct clinical experience and 100 hours of supervision of such experience and which shall be completed within a period of not less than two years and not more than five years;
(B) A master's degree from a program in any specialty, any allied profession, applied child and family development, applied sociology, or from any program accredited by the Commission on Accreditation for Marriage and Family Therapy Education, which degree shall have been granted by a recognized educational institution and shall include, as part of the degree program or as additional post- master's degree coursework, at least two courses in marriage and family studies, two courses in marriage and family therapy, and, after July 1, 2000, one course in
marriage and family therapy ethics; and three years' full-time post-master's experience or its equivalent under direction and supervision in the practice of any specialty, which shall include a minimum of 2,500 hours of direct clinical experience, one year of which may have been in an approved practicum before or after the granting of the master's degree which shall include a minimum of 500 hours of direct clinical experience, and two years of which shall have been in the practice of marriage and family therapy which shall include a minimum of 2,000 hours of direct clinical experience, and 200 hours of supervision of such
experience all of which shall be completed within a period of not less than three years and not more than five years; or
(C) A doctorate degree from a program in any specialty, any allied profession, applied child and family development, applied sociology, or from any program accredited by the Commission on Accreditation for Marriage and Family Therapy education, which degree shall have been granted by a recognized educational institution and shall include, as part of a master's or doctoral degree program or as additional post-graduate degree coursework, at least two courses in marriage and family studies, two courses in marriage and family therapy, and, after July 1, 2000, one
course in marriage and family therapy ethics; two years' full-time post-master's experience under direction in the practice of marriage and family therapy which shall include a minimum of 1,500 hours of direct clinical experience, one year of which may have been in an approved internship program before or after the granting of the doctoral degree, which shall
include a minimum of 500 hours of direct clinical experience, and one year of which shall have been full- time post-master's experience, which shall include a minimum of 1,000 hours of direct clinical experience; and 100 hours of supervision of such experience in the practice of marriage and family therapy, 50 hours of which may have been obtained while a student or intern in an accredited doctoral program.
(b) Persons intending to apply for licensure as a marriage and family therapist and who have completed one of the graduate degrees required for such licensure may register a contract with the board for obtaining the required post- master's experience under direction and supervision.
(c) Associate marriage and family therapists may only use the title "associate marriage and family therapist" and may practice marriage and family therapy only under direction and supervision and only for a period not to exceed five years while obtaining the postmaster's experience required for licensure as a marriage and family therapist.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-13, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1988, p. 580, § 1; Ga. L.1989, p. 825, § 3; Ga. L. 1994, p. 97, § 43; Ga. L. 1995, p. 874, § 1; Ga. L. 1996, p. 843, § 3; Ga. L. 1997,
p. 452, § 2; Ga. L. 2002, p. 415, § 43.
43-10A-14. Fees
Application, examination, license, license renewal, and penalty fees shall be established by the board pursuant to Code Section 43-1-7.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-14, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-15. Expiration, renewal, and penalty dates
Expiration, renewal, and penalty dates for licenses issued under this chapter shall be established pursuant to Code Section 43-1-4. No person whose license has expired shall have such license reinstated without complying with the rules and regulations regarding reinstatement set forth by the board.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-15, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-16. Requirements for continuing education
The board shall establish continuing education requirements for license renewal. The number of hours of continuing education in each specialty shall not exc eed the number of hours available that year in each such specialty in board approved courses within the state. The board may waive these continuing education requirements for not more than 12 months, but such waiver shall only be available upon the licensee's satisfactory showing to the board of undue hardship.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-16, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-17. Denial or revocation of license; other discipline; subpoenas; judicial review; reinstatement; investigation; immunity; failure to appear; voluntary surrender of license; other applicable law
(a) The board shall have the authority to refuse to grant a license to an applicant therefor or to revoke the license of a person licensed by the board or to discipline a person licensed by the board, upon a finding by a majority of the entire board that the licensee or applicant has:
(1) Failed to demonstrate the qualifications or standards for a license contained in this chapter or rules or regulations promulgated thereunder; it shall be incumbent upon the applicant to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the board that he meets all the requirements for the issuance of a license, and, if the board is not satisfied as to the applicant's qualifications, it may deny a license without a prior hearing; provided, however, that the applicant shall be allowed to appear before the board if he so desires;
(2) Knowingly made misleading, deceptive, untrue, or fraudulent representations in the practice of a specialty or on any document connected therewith; or practiced fraud or deceit or intentionally made any false statement in obtaining a license to practice the specialty; or made a false statement or deceptive registration with the board;
(3) Been convicted of any felony or of any crime involving moral turpitude in the courts of this state or any other state, territory, or country or in the courts of the United States; as used in this paragraph and paragraph (4) of this subsection, the term "felony" shall include any offense which, if committed in this state, would be deemed a felony, without regard to its
designation elsewhere; and, as used in this paragraph, the term "conviction" shall include a finding or verdict of guilty or a plea of guilty, regardless of whether an appeal of the conviction has been sought;
(4) Been arrested, charged, and sentenced for the commission of any felony, or any crime involving moral turpitude, where:
(A) First offender treatment without adjudication of guilt pursuant to the charge was granted; or
(B) An adjudication or sentence was otherwise withheld or not entered on the charge except with respect to a plea of nolo contendere.
The plea of nolo contendere or the order entered pursuant to the provisions of Article 3 of Chapter 8 of Title 42, relating to probation of first offenders, or other first offender treatment shall be conclusive evidence of arrest and sentencing for such crime;
(5) Had his license to practice a specialty revoked, suspended, or annulled by any lawful licensing authority other than the board; or had other disciplinary action taken against him by any such lawful licensing authority other than the board; or was denied a license by any such lawful licensing authority other than the board, pursuant to disciplinary proceedings; or was refused the renewal of a license by any such lawful licensing authority other than the board, pursuant to disciplinary proceedings;
(6) Engaged in any unprofessional, immoral, unethical, deceptive, or deleterious conduct or practice harmful to the public, which conduct or practice materially affects the fitness of the licensee or applicant to practice the specialty or is of a nature likely to jeopardize the interest of the public, which conduct or practice need not have resulted in actual injury to any person or be directly related to the practice of the specialty but shows that the licensee or applicant has committed any act or omission which is indicative of bad moral character or untrustworthiness;
unprofessional conduct shall also include any departure from, or the failure to conform to, the minimal standards of acceptable and prevailing practice of the specialty, as well as the practice of any professional activity which the licensee or applicant is not qualified to perform by virtue of not having acquired the requisite professional education, training, or experience;
(7) Knowingly performed any act which in any way aids, assists, procures, advises, or encourages any unlicensed person or any licensee whose license has been suspended or revoked by the board to practice unlawfully a specialty or to practice outside the scope of any disciplinary limitation placed upon the licensee by the board;
(8) Violated a statute, law, or any rule or regulatio n of this state, any other state, the board, the United States, or any other lawful authority (without regard to whether the violation is criminally punishable), which statute, law, or rule or regulation relates to or in part regulates the practice of the specialty, when the licensee or applicant knows or should know that such action is violative of such statute, law, or rule; or violated a lawful order of the board previously entered by the board in a
disciplinary hearing, consent decree, or license reinstatement;
(9) Been adjudged mentally incompetent by a court of competent jurisdiction within or without this state; any such adjudication shall automatically suspend the license of any such person and shall prevent the reissuance or renewal of any license so suspended for as long as the adjudication of incompetence is in effect; or
(10) Displayed an inability to practice the specialty with reasonable skill and safety to the public or has become unable to practice the specialty with reasonable skill and safety to the public by reason of illness, use of alcohol, drugs, narcotics, chemicals, or any other type of material:
(A) In enforcing this subsection, the board may, if it has a reasonable basis to believe that the licensee is practicing while incapacitated in the performance of his or her duties by reason of substance abuse or mental or physical illness, require a licensee or applicant to submit to a mental, physical, or mental and physical examination by an appropriate licensed
practitioner designated by the board. The results of such examination shall be admissible in any hearing before the board, notwithstanding any claim of privilege under a contrary rule of law or statute. If a licensee fails to submit to each examination when properly directed to do so by the board, the board may summarily suspend the license of such licensee, if the public health, safety, and welfare imperatively require such action, and thereafter enter a final order upon proper notice, hearing, and proof of such refusal; and
(B) For the purpose of this subsection, the board, if it has a reasonable basis to believe that the licensee is incapacitated in the performance of his or her duties by reason of substance abuse or mental or physical illness, may require the licensee to produce or give the board permission to obtain any and all records relating to the alleged incapacitating mental or physical condition of a licensee or applicant, including that individual's personal psychiatric, psychological, and mental health records; and such records shall be admissible in any hearing before the board. If a licensee fails to provide such records when properly directed to do so by the board, the board may summarily suspend the license of such licensee, if the public health, safety, and welfare imperatively require such action, and thereafter enter a final order upon proper notice, hearing, and proof of such refusal.
(b) The provisions of Chapter 13 of Title 50, the "Georgia Administrative Procedure Act," with respect to emergency action by a professional licensing board and summary suspension of a license are adopted and incorporated by reference into this Code section.
(c) For purposes of this Code section, the board may obtain, through subpoena by the division director, upon reasonable grounds, any and all records relating to the mental or physical condition of a licensee or applicant, and such records shall be admissible in any hearing before the board.
(d) When the board finds that any person is unqualified to be granted a license or finds that any person should be disciplined pursuant to subsection (a) of this Code section or the laws, rules, or regulations relating to a specialty, the board may take any one or more of the following actions:
(1) Refuse to grant or renew a license to an applicant;
(2) Administer a public or private reprimand, but a private reprimand shall not be disclosed to any person except the licensee;
(3) Suspend any license for a definite period or for an indefinite period in connection with any condition which may be attached to the restoration of said license;
(4) Limit or restrict any license as the board deems necessary for the protection of the public;
(5) Revoke any license;
(6) Condition the penalty upon, or withhold formal disposition pending, the applicant's or licensee's submission to such care, counseling, or treatment as the board may direct; or
(7) Impose a fine not to exceed $500.00 for each violation of a law, rule, or regulation relating to the specialty.
(e) In addition to and in conjunction with the actions described in subsection (d) of this Code section, the board may make a finding adverse to the licensee or applicant but withhold imposition of judgment and penalty; or it may impose the judgment and penalty but suspend enforcement thereof and place the licensee on probation, which probation
may be vacated upon noncompliance with such reasonable terms as the board may impose.
(f) Initial judicial review of a final decision of the board shall be had solely in the superior court of the county of domicile of the board.
(g) In its discretion, the board may reinstate a license which has been revoked or issue a license which has been denied or refused, following such procedures as the board may prescribe by rule; and, as a condition thereof, it may impose any disciplinary or corrective method provided in this Code section.
(h)(1) The division director is vested with the power and authority to make, or cause to be made through employees or agents of the board, such investigations as he or she or the board may deem necessary or proper for the enforcement of the provisions of this chapter. Any person properly conducting an investigation on behalf of the board shall have access to and may examine any writing, document, or other material relating to the fitness of any licensee or applicant. The division director or his or her appointed representative may issue subpoenas to compel such access upon a determination that reasonable grounds exist for the belief
that a violation of this chapter may have taken place.
(2) The results of all investigations initiated by the board shall be reported solely to the board, and the records of such investigations shall be kept for the board by the division director, with the board retaining the right to have access at any time to such records. No part of any such records shall be released, except to the board, for any purpose other than a
hearing before the board, nor shall such records be subject to subpoena; provided, however, that the board shall be authorized to release such records to another enforcement agency or lawful licensing authority.
(3) If a licensee is the subject of a board inquiry, all records relating to any person who receives services rendered by that licensee in his or her capacity as licensee shall be admissible at any hearing held to determine whether a violation of this chapter has taken place, regardless of any statutory privilege; provided, however, that any documentary evidence relating to a person who received those services shall be reviewed in camera and shall not be disclosed to the public.
(4) The board shall have the authority to exclude all persons during its deliberations on disciplinary proceedings and to discuss any disciplinary matter in private with a licensee or applicant and the legal counsel of that licensee or applicant.
(i) A person, firm, corporation, association, authority, or other entity shall be immune from civil and criminal liability for reporting or investigating the acts or omissions of a licensee or applicant which violate the provisions of this chapter or for initiating or conducting proceedings against such licensee or applicant, if such report is made or action is taken in good faith, without fraud or malice. Any person who testifies or who makes a recommendation to the board in the nature of peer review, in good faith, without fraud or malice, before the board in any proceeding involving the provisions of subsection (a) of this Code section shall be immune from civil and criminal liability for so testifying.
(j) Neither the issuance of a private reprimand nor the denial of a license by reciprocity nor the denial of a request for reinstatement of a revoked license nor the refusal to issue a previously denied license shall be considered to be a contested case within the meaning of Chapter 13 of Title 50, the "Georgia Administrative Procedure Act"; notice and hearing within the meaning of said chapter shall not be required, but the applicant or licensee shall be allowed to appear before the board if he so requests.
(k) If any licensee or applicant after reasonable notice fails to appear at any hearing of the board, the board may proceed to hear the evidence against such licensee or applicant and take action as if such licensee or applicant had been present. A notice of hearing, initial or recommended decision, or final decision of the board in a disciplinary proceeding shall
be served upon the licensee or applicant by certified mail or statutory overnight delivery, return receipt requested, to the last known address of record with the board. If such material is returned marked "unclaimed" or "refused" or is otherwise undeliverable and if the licensee or applicant cannot, after diligent effort, be located, the division director shall be deemed to be the agent for service for such licensee or applicant for purposes of this Code section, and service upon the division director shall be deemed to be service upon the licensee or applicant.
(l) The voluntary surrender of a license or the failure to renew a license by the end of an established penalty period shall have the same effect as a revocation of said license, subject to reinstatement in the discretion of the board. The board may restore and reissue a license to practice a specialty and, as a condition thereof, may impose any disciplinary sanction provided by this Code section.
(m) This Code section shall apply equally to all licensees or applicants whether individuals, partners, or members of any other incorporated or unincorporated associations, limited liability companies, corporations, or other associations of any kind whatsoever.
(n) Regulation by the board of a specialty shall not exempt licensees under this chapter from regulation pursuant to any other applicable law, including but not limited to Part 2 of Article 15 of Chapter 1 of Title 10, the "Fair Business Practices Act of 1975."
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-17, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1993, p. 123, § 25; Ga.L. 1993, p. 330, § 6; Ga. L. 1994, p. 97, § 43; Ga. L. 1996, p. 718, § 1; Ga. L. 1999, p. 81, § 43; Ga. L.
2000, p. 1589, § 3; Ga. L. 2000, p. 1706, § 10.
43-10A-18. Availability of injunction in enforcement of chapter
Whenever it shall appear to the board that any person is or has been violating any provisions of this chapter or any of the lawful rules, regulations, or orders of the board, the board, the division director, or the appropriate district attorney may file a petition for injunction in the proper superior court of this state against such person for the purpose of enjoining any such violation. It shall not be necessary to allege or prove that there is no adequate remedy at law. The right of injunction provided for in this Code section shall be in addition to any other legal remedy available, including but not limited to any right of criminal prosecution provided by law.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-18, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 2000, p. 1706, § 19.
43-10A-19. Obtaining license by fraudulent representation
It shall be unlawful for a person to obtain or attempt to obtain a icense under this chapter by fraudulent representation.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-19, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-20. Penalty
Any person violating Code Section 43-10A-19 or Code Section 43-10A-7 shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than $100.00 nor more than $1,000.00 for each offense and, in addition, may be imprisoned for a term not to exceed 12 months.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-20, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-21. Restrictions on use of terms in corporate, partnership, association, or business names
(a) No corporation, partnership, association, or other business entity may use in its corporate, partnership, association, or business name any term or title restricted under subsection (a) of Code Section 43-10A-7 or the term "professional counseling," "social work," or "marriage and family therapy," or any words, letters, titles, or figures indicating or implying that such entity or any of its employees, officers, or agents are practicing a
specialty regulated under this chapter, unless each person practicing a specialty in that entity, except those persons exempt under paragraph (1), (4), (5), (6), (11), (13), or (14) of subsection (b) of Code Section 43-10A-7, is licensed under this chapter.
(b) Any corporation, partnership, association, or other business entity which violates subsection (a) of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than $500.00 nor more than $1,000.00 for each offense.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-21, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1990, p. 1484, § 6; Ga.L. 1993, p. 330, § 7.
43-10A-22. Restrictions on scope of chapter
Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to authorize persons licensed under this chapter to practice nursing, occupational therapy, physical therapy, medicine, or psychology, as regulated under Chapters 26, 28, 33, 34, and 39, respectively, of this title nor shall anything in this chapter be construed to limit or regulate the practice of those licensed under said Chapters 26, 28, 33, 34, and 39 of this title, nor shall anything in this chapter be construed to authorize persons licensed under this chapter to perform psychological testing.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-22, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1987, p. 3, § 43; Ga. L.1993, p. 330, § 8.
43-10A-23. Insurance coverage for specialty practitioners
Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to mandate insurance coverage or reimbursement for specialty practitioners licensed under this chapter.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-23, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-24.
Repealed.
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Now see how many of these "Counselors" are licensed with the state of Georiga:
https://secure.sos.state.ga.us/myverification/ (https://secure.sos.state.ga.us/myverification/)
Just enter a few of the last names and guess what?? They are not licensed as required to be considered a "counselor" in the state of Georgia.
Please don't try to tell us we don't know what we're talking about you pious ass-wipe.
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TITLE 43. PROFESSIONS AND BUSINESSES
CHAPTER 10A. PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS, SOCIAL WORKERS, AND
MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPISTS
43-10A-1. Short title
This chapter shall be known and may be cited as the "Professional Counselors, Social
Workers, and Marriage and Family Therapists Licensing Law."
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-1, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1.
43-10A-2. Declaration of purpose
It is declared to be the purpose of the General Assembly that the activities of certain
persons who utilize certain titles relating to or who practice professional counseling,
social work, and marriage and family therapy be regulated to ensure the protection of the
health, safety, and welfare of the people of this state.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-2, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1993, p. 330, § 1.
43-10A-3. Definitions
As used in this chapter, the term:
(1) "Advertise" means, but is not limited to, the issuing of or
causing to be distributed any card, sign, or other device or the
causing or permitting any sign or marking on or in any building or
structure, or in any newspaper, magazine, or directory, or on
radio or television.
(2) "Allied profession" means the practice of medicine,
psychiatric nursing, psychology, or pastoral counseling.
(3) "Board" means the Georgia Composite Board of Professional
Counselors, Social Workers, and Marriage and Family Therapists
established by this chapter.
(3.1) "Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification" means
the national certifying agency for rehabilitation counselors as
recognized by the National Commission for Certifying Agencies.
(4) "Counseling" means those techniques used to help persons learn
how to solve problems and make decisions related to personal
growth, vocation, family, social, and other interpersonal
concerns.(5) "Direction" means the ongoing administrative overseeing by an
employer or superior of a specialty practitioner's work. The
person providing direction shall be responsible for assuring the
quality of the services rendered by that practitioner and shall
ensure that qualified supervision or intervention occurs in
situations which require expertise beyond that of the
practitioner. Direction may be provided by any person acceptable
to the standards committee for that specialty in which the
practitioner is working.
(6) "Division director" means the director of the professional
licensing boards division. The division director shall serve as
secretary to the board.
(7) "Fee" means money or anything of value, including but not
limited to a salary, offered or received as compensation in return
for rendering services in any specialty.(8) "Marriage and family therapy" means that specialty which
evaluates and treats emotional and mental problems and conditions,
whether cognitive, affective, or behavioral, resolves
intrapersonal and interpersonal conflicts, and changes perception,
attitudes, and behavior; all within the context of marital and
family systems. Marriage and family therapy includes, without
being limited to, individual, group, couple, sexual, family, and
divorce therapy. Marriage and family therapy involves an applied
understanding of the dynamics of marital and family systems,
including individual psychodynamics, the use of assessment
instruments that evaluate marital and family functioning, and the
use of psychotherapy and counseling.
(9) "Practice a specialty" or "practice" means to offer to render
for a fee or to render for a fee any service involving the
application of principles, methods, or procedures of professional
counseling, social work, or marriage and family therapy.
(10) "Professional counseling" means that specialty which utilizes
counseling techniques based on principles, methods, and procedures
of counseling that assist people in identifying and resolving
personal, social, vocational, intrapersonal and interpersonal
concerns; utilizes counseling and psychotherapy to evaluate and
treat emotional and mental problems and conditions, whether
cognitive, behavioral, or affective; administers and interprets
educational and vocational assessment instruments and other tests
which the professional counselor is qualified to employ by virtue
of education, training, and experience; utilizes information and
community resources for personal, social, or vocational
development; utilizes individual and group techniques for
facilitating problem solving, decision making, and behavior
change; utilizes functional assessment and vocational planning and
guidance for persons requesting assistance in adjustment to a
disability or disabling condition; utilizes referral for persons
who request counseling services; and utilizes and interprets
counseling research.
(11) "Psychotherapeutic techniques" means those specific
techniques involving the in-depth exploration and treatment of
interpersonal and intrapersonal dynamics but shall not include the
performance of those activities exclusively reserved to any other
business or profession by any other chapter of this title.(12) "Recognized educational institution" means any educational
institution which grants a bachelor's, master's, specialist, or
doctoral degree and which is recognized by an accrediting body
acceptable to the board.
(13) "Social work" means that specialty which helps individuals,
marriages, families, couples, groups, or communities to enhance or
restore their capacity for functioning: by assisting in the
obtaining or improving of tangible social and health services; by
providing psychosocial evaluations, in-depth analyses and
determinations of the nature and status of emotional, cognitive,
mental, behavioral, and interpersonal problems or conditions; and
by counseling and psychotherapeutic techniques, casework, social
work advocacy, psychotherapy, and treatment in a variety of
settings which include but are not limited to mental and physical
health facilities, child and family service agencies, or private
practice.
(14) "Specialty" means social work, marriage and family therapy,
or professional counseling, or any combination thereof.
(15) "Supervision" means the direct clinical review, for the
purpose of training or teaching, by a supervisor of a specialty
practitioner's interaction with a client. It may include, without
being limited to, the review of case presentations, audio tapes,
video tapes, and direct observation in order to promote the
development of the practitioner's clinical skills.
(16) "Supervisor" means a person who meets the requirements
established by the standards committee for that specialty which is
being supervised and who is either licensed under this chapter or
is a psychiatrist or a psychologist.
(17) "The Commission on Accreditation for Marriage and Family
Therapy Education" means the national accrediting agency for
marriage and family therapy education as recognized by the United
States Department of Education.
(18) "The Council on Social Work Education" means the national
accrediting agency for social work education as recognized by the
United States Department of Education and the Council on
Postsecondary Accreditation.
HISTORY: Code 1981, § 43-7A-3, enacted by Ga. L. 1984, p. 1406, § 1; Ga. L. 1987, p. 3, § 43; Ga. L.
1990, p. 1484, § 1; Ga. L. 1993, p. 330, § 2; Ga. L. 1994, p. 450, § 1; Ga. L. 1995, p. 1302, § 17; Ga. L.
1997, p. 452, § 1; Ga. L. 2000, p. 1706, § 9; Ga. L. 2002, p. 1479, § 1.
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Thank you.
Now the next step is to tie this requirement back to HLA and check to see how many counselors are referred to as:
Professional counselor
Associate professional counselor
Social worker
Marriage and family therapist
Associate marriage and family therapist
If they hold any of these titles then they are required to be licensed in the State of Georgia under Title 43 Chapter 10A.
The next step is to check the titles of the employees of HLA and if they are using any of the above titles we will check for the license to use the stated Title.
I will take this one since you guys provided the statutes.
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If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
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If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
How many can a licensed therapist supervise?
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Thank you.
Now the next step is to tie this requirement back to HLA and check to see how many counselors are referred to as:
Professional counselor
Associate professional counselor
Social worker
Marriage and family therapist
Associate marriage and family therapist
If they hold any of these titles then they are required to be licensed in the State of Georgia under Title 43 Chapter 10A.
The next step is to check the titles of the employees of HLA and if they are using any of the above titles we will check for the license to use the stated Title.
I will take this one since you guys provided the statutes.
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so what you are saying is that there is a loophole which hla exploited. from a strict constructionist viewpoint what you are saying is correct, but unfortunately with a little bit of "reading between the lines with common sense", it becomes very illegal. essentially, if someone is not qualified to be licensed but wants to work in that field, and do the exact same thing, all they have to do is change their job title to something thats not on the list. although it's legal it's not ethical because it's very misleading. even if the parent knows the law by heart, he/she is most likely going to assume that "professional counselor" and "masters level peer-group counselor" are synonyms, "one used officially and one used for marketing".
this is very, very simmilar to what hidden lake did with ORS: by calling it a "theraputic boarding school", and claiming it was a "boarding school with a theraputic aspect" they managed to dodge the regulations they would be subjected to if they were to be a "residential treatment facility with academics".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purposive_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purposive_theory)
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i they've really done the switcheroo at hla
denny beatty was a peer group counselor when i was there in
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... ?userID=19 (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadProfile.aspx?userID=19)
Kees was once upon a time a counselor, but it was a long long time ago, like peer group 3 or 4.
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... ?userID=96 (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadProfile.aspx?userID=96)
this guy, lance, although i guess he may be qualified, is a very evil individual. just pure evil. i get the chills being around him. it's like he's the seed of satan. it's like im just waiting for him to grow horns and a tail and whip out a pitchfork. note: i am not a christian.
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=127 (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadProfile.aspx?userID=127)
Ted McAlister was lance's evil twin. luckily, he dont work there no more.
i've noticed the amount pg counselors has gone down from like 2 dozen when i was there to 6. hip hip horay fornits and the lawsuit is doing it's job! when you got hundreds of graduates bent on giving you a hard time...well....youre gonna have a hard time...
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Word is Lance is now working at Ridge Creek. Why's he still listed on HLA's web site as PG Counselor?
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Why are you so very interested in HLA?
The discussion caught my eye when I saw someone posting information from some girls wedding announcement and claiming that she wasn’t qualified to be a counselor at HLA. I didn’t know how the 2 connected and was curious of what the requirements were to be a counselor and/ or an addictions counselor. No one seemed to be able to tell me, all I got was people trying to run the subject off topic.
This sparked my interest as I am a parent to several children and from a parents point of view the information seemed to be one sided or tainted like it came from an ex-employee and not worthy to be used to base a decision. So I thought I could try to keep the discussion focused and on track and maybe nail down the requirements for counselors and how they compare to what HLA does.
::hatter:: ::soapbox::
Ooooh, sorry, wrong answer, Who. You have been posting in the HLA forum long before the thread about Danielle Howard started. Try again.
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so what you are saying is that there is a loophole which hla exploited.
No, they are not loop holes it is very well defined and laid out. If you get a job working for someone else they can give you any type of title they please i.e. guidance counselor, career counselor, senior counselor, junior counselor. The higher your degree the more money you make. This is the same as other professions. In Engineering there are tons of job titles to suit individual companies needs i.e. Quality engineer, production engineer etc.
But if you want to take you services directly to the public, in the state of Georgia (as in most states), you need to be licensed because you don’t have a corporation or oversight. This is the intention of the licensing. There are many positions within State and private sector which require their people to be licensed but its primary intent is for those individuals who want to come into Georgia and hang a sign up and start practicing business.
HLA doesn’t advertise that all their counselors have a professional license. I don’t understand why they would do that or how that would help. They indicate that their people have a certain education level and if they have a back ground in their field of study or not like any other business would. How many companies place a list of their employees’ names and educational back grounds out for everyone to see. This is very open and I don’t see how they can be more open and forthcoming than this.
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If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
How many can a licensed therapist supervise?
To be honest, I don't know if there is a limit or not to the number someone can supervise. I do know that there are some private therapists whose entire practice is devoted to supervising non-licensed. Good question though.
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Do you know of any other programs which requires all their counselors to be licensed?
I dont think this is standard at least it is not in other industries that I know of.
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If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
How many can a licensed therapist supervise?
To be honest, I don't know if there is a limit or not to the number someone can supervise. I do know that there are some private therapists whose entire practice is devoted to supervising non-licensed. Good question though.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 121#245121 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=245121#245121)
Leonard Buccellato, Ph.D., the founder and owner of Hidden Lake has been a Licensed Psychologist in the state of Georgia since 1975. Dr. Buccellato and the Associate Directors of Counseling supervise and oversee all counseling activities at Hidden Lake Academy.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 499#218499 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=218499#218499)
In addition to the Realizations, Counselors lead other psycho educational peer group sessions in the mornings and evenings throughout the week.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 201#218201 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=218201#218201)
(b) The internship/SWE supervisor shall not take primary supervisory responsibility for more than three interns or fellows concurrently without Board approval.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 031#200031 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=200031#200031)
I am the ex-counselor that has been posting. I whole heartedly agree that forcing a kid to detail the accounts of her rape is wrong and offers no benefit to the child. I am amazed if a child was forced to do this. I also agree that the counselors at HLA need to be better trained. I do not think the have to all be licensed, because you have to be in the field for three years before you get your license. What does need to happen is that HLA needs to have several licensed staff that are giving direct day to day supervision of the non-licensed staff. Currently, HLA has one person doing the supervision of all their counselors. That is an impossible situation and a detriment to the kids. Dr. Buccellato will never put forth the money that it would take to properly supervise all of the counselors at HLA.
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Thank you.
Now the next step is to tie this requirement back to HLA and check to see how many counselors are referred to as:
Professional counselor
Associate professional counselor
Social worker
Marriage and family therapist
Associate marriage and family therapist
If they hold any of these titles then they are required to be licensed in the State of Georgia under Title 43 Chapter 10A.
The next step is to check the titles of the employees of HLA and if they are using any of the above titles we will check for the license to use the stated Title.
I will take this one since you guys provided the statutes.
::hatter::
so what you are saying is that there is a loophole which hla exploited. from a strict constructionist viewpoint what you are saying is correct, but unfortunately with a little bit of "reading between the lines with common sense", it becomes very illegal. essentially, if someone is not qualified to be licensed but wants to work in that field, and do the exact same thing, all they have to do is change their job title to something thats not on the list. although it's legal it's not ethical because it's very misleading. even if the parent knows the law by heart, he/she is most likely going to assume that "professional counselor" and "masters level peer-group counselor" are synonyms, "one used officially and one used for marketing".
this is very, very simmilar to what hidden lake did with ORS: by calling it a "theraputic boarding school", and claiming it was a "boarding school with a theraputic aspect" they managed to dodge the regulations they would be subjected to if they were to be a "residential treatment facility with academics".
Bingo.
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I agree that Lance H is a total jerk and should not be allowed to work with kids. He is a real hot head who cannot control himself in a professional manner at all. He is a JOKE and I would never want my child around him. You tried to mouth off to me Lance but it did not work. You are a pathetic excuse for a "counselor" . CREEPY!!
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"professional counselor" and "masters level peer-group counselor" are synonyms
This makes no sense at all. No parent would ever assume anything like that. Professional Counselor, Engineer etc. are licensed by the state and can work independently and outsource their talents.
If they were professional counselors they would advertise this.
You are trying to make what they do seem illegal and it is not. We have provided the evidence that HLA meets the letter of the law.
This is why parents dont believe what many of you conclude and say on this forum. If you are truthful and honest with your information parents will eventually start believing more people at face value. This is why we ask for details because much of what you say is unrelieable.
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Yes, fornits is considered such an unreliable source of information that only 75% of families pulled their kids out of HLA in the past 18 months and only some 21 families filed suit against HLA for various and sundry misconduct.
Shame on you, fornits! :roll:
TheWho is a complete and utter fool that has no idea what he's blathering about.
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Yes, fornits is considered such an unreliable source of information that only 75% of families pulled their kids out of HLA in the past 18 months and only some 21 families filed suit against HLA for various and sundry misconduct.
Shame on you, fornits! :roll:
TheWho is a complete and utter fool that has no idea what he's blathering about.
:rofl: :rofl: :exclaim: :exclaim: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::nod::
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HLA has not one single licensed counselor/therapist. None. Zip. Look at the webpage. Yet there are several counselors who are license-elegible. Why do they not apply for licensure?
Simple. They know what happened to those who came before them who were licensed and who were pushed by Buccellato to sign off on things that, if discovered, would cost them their license. So all those with a license left to protect themselves, and those who remain, even Hollowhead and his ilk, refuse to get licensed because they know what the little man will have them doing.
What a great place to work.
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Yeah, it is a shitty place. I worked there, too. We didn't have any licensed providers either, just some unlicensed "clinicians" with phony degrees from diploma mills, like "Dr." Tom Sisk - a fraud and charlatan who was the director of counseling even though Len admitted directly to my face that his degree was as worthless as the "services" he provided.
Dee, can you tell us a little bit more about licensed employees who had legal issues due to Len's behavior?
Thanks..
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Seems we have gone full circle, thanks for everyone’s input. Here is a summary to date:
1) HLA is meeting or exceeding all requirements for their hired counselor base as viewed by state requirements (State of Georgia)
2) There are some questions concerning HLA possibly not giving the nod to employees who are licensed ready.
3) There are questions concerning the wording of how “Master leveled” counselors workload is dispersed among the peer groups.
4) HLA is receiving oversight from the state and holds a provisional license with them. So it appears they are clean in this area.
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Seems we have gone full circle, thanks for everyone’s input. Here is a summary to date:
1) HLA is meeting or exceeding all requirements for their hired counselor base as viewed by state requirements (State of Georgia)
2) There are some questions concerning HLA possibly not giving the nod to employees who are licensed ready.
3) There are questions concerning the wording of how “Master leveled” counselors workload is dispersed among the peer groups.
4) HLA is receiving oversight from the state and holds a provisional license with them. So it appears they are clean in this area.
pull those conclusions out of the air? oh man you are so ignorant. ever heard of the concept of denial? 2 and 3 are partially true, but 1 and 4 are dead wrong. a provisional license does not by any means mean that they are meeting the requirements of the state, it just means that the state understands their bussiness needs (HLA cant shut down for a 6 month break afterall) and are allowing them X amount of time to obtain a real licence.
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Seems we have gone full circle, thanks for everyone’s input. Here is a summary to date:
1) HLA is meeting or exceeding all requirements for their hired counselor base as viewed by state requirements (State of Georgia)
2) There are some questions concerning HLA possibly not giving the nod to employees who are licensed ready.
3) There are questions concerning the wording of how “Master leveled” counselors workload is dispersed among the peer groups.
4) HLA is receiving oversight from the state and holds a provisional license with them. So it appears they are clean in this area.
pull those conclusions out of the air? oh man you are so ignorant. ever heard of the concept of denial? 2 and 3 are partially true, but 1 and 4 are dead wrong. a provisional license does not by any means mean that they are meeting the requirements of the state, it just means that the state understands their bussiness needs (HLA cant shut down for a 6 month break afterall) and are allowing them X amount of time to obtain a real licence.
The state requirements have been posted, where is HLA in non compliance, specifically.
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I Keep forgetting the cat-in-the-hat guy.
Thanks Deb.
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Yeah, it is a shitty place. I worked there, too. We didn't have any licensed providers either, just some unlicensed "clinicians" with phony degrees from diploma mills, like "Dr." Tom Sisk - a fraud and charlatan who was the director of counseling even though Len admitted directly to my face that his degree was as worthless as the "services" he provided.
Dee, can you tell us a little bit more about licensed employees who had legal issues due to Len's behavior?
Thanks..
Or how about talking about some of the male employees that allegedly filed sexual harassment suits against Len. Maybe the boys from Q&Q would like to come on here and talk about those???
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Seems we have gone full circle, thanks for everyone’s input. Here is a summary to date:
1) HLA is meeting or exceeding all requirements for their hired counselor base as viewed by state requirements (State of Georgia)
2) There are some questions concerning HLA possibly not giving the nod to employees who are licensed ready.
3) There are questions concerning the wording of how “Master leveled” counselors workload is dispersed among the peer groups.
4) HLA is receiving oversight from the state and holds a provisional license with them. So it appears they are clean in this area.
pull those conclusions out of the air? oh man you are so ignorant. ever heard of the concept of denial? 2 and 3 are partially true, but 1 and 4 are dead wrong. a provisional license does not by any means mean that they are meeting the requirements of the state, it just means that the state understands their bussiness needs (HLA cant shut down for a 6 month break afterall) and are allowing them X amount of time to obtain a real licence.
The state requirements have been posted, where is HLA in non compliance, specifically.
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Just so readers know "who" this guy is, he's this guy:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=16007 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=16007)
And he says things like this:
I hope the kids don't get too mad at us. Ha, ha, ha, I'm just having a bit of fun. The thing we all n33d to keep in mind is that these kids deserve what they get. So what if a couple of them died? The point is that I get my referal fees.
So, readers, let's not be under any false impressions. TheWho is a troll looking for desperate parents to rope in for cash. and he'll say anything, no matter how false, to get that to happen...
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This symbol ::hatter:: is mine now, he can find a new one.
"The who" can go back to logging in, if he likes.
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This symbol ::hatter:: is mine now, he can find a new one.
"The who" can go back to logging in, if he likes.
But since you are TheWho, your statement is a bit puzzling.
Same guy. This loser doesn't know when to say when.
Feel free to browse the 300 page abortion he created as an enduring egoist monument to himself to get a firm grasp of the person "who" is trying to mislead you. He really, genuinely is a scumbag.
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This symbol ::hatter:: is mine now, he can find a new one.
"The who" can go back to logging in, if he likes.
But since you are TheWho, your statement is a bit puzzling.
Same guy. This loser doesn't know when to say when.
Feel free to browse the 300 page abortion he created as an enduring egoist monument to himself to get a firm grasp of the person "who" is trying to mislead you. He really, genuinely is a scumbag.
TheWho has problems with multiple personalities, posting as several anons agreeing with one another, posing as kids, posing as staff and posing as a parent.
You can't believe a word of what he says. Just review the thread called "TheWho" and you'll see what he's all about...
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Just ignore him,Deb. Lets all use his symbol ::hatter:: and maybe he will go away. Lets get back on topic, this is where we left off:
Seems we have gone full circle, thanks for everyone’s input. Here is a summary to date:
1) HLA is meeting or exceeding all requirements for their hired counselor base as viewed by state requirements (State of Georgia)
2) There are some questions concerning HLA possibly not giving the nod to employees who are licensed ready.
3) There are questions concerning the wording of how “Master leveled” counselors workload is dispersed among the peer groups.
4) HLA is receiving oversight from the state and holds a provisional license with them. So it appears they are clean in this area.
::hatter::
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Just ignore him,Deb.
:rofl: :wave: