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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 23, 2007, 12:11:11 PM
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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =290309991 (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=209520568&blogID=290309991)
Liam Scheff, a Cedu graduate and someone who I actually attended with, is assembling research for a book/memoirs sort of thing.
Hey Everyone - this is going to be good.
Liam is already an accomplished journalist.
For many of us, this is the light at the end of a very long tunnel.
I CAN't wait for this to get underway. But it all starts with YOU!
He needs memories, research, stories, anything you can gather up.
Feel free to email me at liamscheff@yahoo.com (http://mailto:liamscheff@yahoo.com) , or through
the myspace forum, or you can leave a message below.
I have interviewed a couple fellow travellers down
this road already, and have found it a greatly
rewarding experience. It is quite a thing, to review
the many feelings and experiences, the odd rituals and
beliefs we were surrounded with, to put it side by
side with our adult philosophies, and worldly
experience. Quite a thing.
In sum, I look forward to hearing from you, talking,
swapping stories, and investigating and understanding
our similar, and different experiences.
Please write below, or to my email, with questions,
concerns, comments, etc. I will answer whatever
questions you have to the best of my ability.
Thanks,
Liam Scheff
http://liamscheff.com (http://liamscheff.com)
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ummm, I do not purport be an accomplished journalist by any measure. But I have to say, that Liam's open invitation to Cedu Alumni/a was poorly written. There was nothing in Liam's post that inspires me to want to contact the nascent autrhor.
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At least he can spell...
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Hello,
Thanks to Johnny P. for posting my myspace blog here. I look forward to hearing from any and all.
http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff (http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff)
I do hope to hear from those who've been through that ringer, whether you loved it, hated it, or are somewhere in between.
My goal is to take a comprehensive and complete, honest and actual account of what went on, from person to person, your stories, your thoughts, with your consent as to how much information you give, and what you hold back.
These stories are remarkable, precious, odd, strange, different, and at times shocking, upsetting, and terribly revealing about a deeply hidden face of our culture.
I would like to hear from any and all, former students, staff and parents, who would like to put their stories on the record. (That said, I will respect requests for anonymity, of course).
I will answer any questions any of you have about me, my work, the interview process, etc, if you contact me by email.
Thanks,
Liam Scheff
liamscheff@yahoo.com
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ummm, I do not purport be an accomplished journalist by any measure. But I have to say, that Liam's open invitation to Cedu Alumni/a was poorly written. There was nothing in Liam's post that inspires me to want to contact the nascent autrhor.
It was actually probably one of the most detailed outreaches yet to get everyone to put some meat behind their words and take some action.
Or would you rather: "Um, I am writing a book, so, like, call me or something."
IMO, you would rather a book not be written, a movie not be made or bad report reach the light of day. I think we know whose side you're really on. If you love Cedu, just say so and stop pissing on progress.
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Hey Johnny, have you heard from Liam? He wanted to interview me, and we had some email exchanges about setting up a time, and then he dropped off the face of the earth.
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Yeah, When I figured out he wasn't related to that whole Sue Scheff thing, and that he wasn't the guy making the film documentary that did, in fact drop off the earth (Adam Best?), I also replied to his emails. I'm very sensitive and I want to share that his not contacting me has really hurt the little kid inside of me. I'm going to pound a pillow with Liam's name on it.
Just kidding dude, hit us back when you have a chance. We all want to see intelligent work about pig fucking!
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I believe he is in the middle of moving...
I will shoot him a line and remind him of his literary obligations!
:wink:
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Just to restate it. For those of you not following - Liam Scheff is NOT related nor has he anything to do with Sue Scheff.
I know Liam. Good guy. Give him your feedback, get this book off the ground. It's important and it's definitely not any Cedu asskissing project. That goes for myself, I have to email him back...DOH!
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Hi,
Johnny P. wrote and told me to make a peep over here, so "Peep!"
I've been on the road, away visiting friends in the near South, and now, moving back to my beloved Boston.
So, this weekend is focacta for work, other than meditative packing, taping and hoisting boxes...
I have taken interviews thus far with 4 or 5 Cedu folk, and have a few more in line, plus a couple or more RMA'ers, and one 70's Cedu fellow who wrote, but then disappeared.
The interviews have thus far gone well, with fellow Cedu'ers and I reviewing and, I think, beginning to systematize, to a degree, the pattern of life in the place, so that it will be easily comprehensible to the new reader.
I am happy to talk with any and all who have a Cedu story to tell. Please see the post at the top, or the myspace page link, for details (in short - I am very simply trying to put some actual voices and experiences on the record, for posterity's sake, to record a very hidden bit of our American history.
For my part, I am fascinated, for a variety of reasons, I'm sure, by hidden histories, intentionally forgotten events, buried passages in our past (and present).
I am looking for contacts with staff who will talk openly as well, in praise or criticism of the place.
I once had contact, years ago with Randolph Reynolds, who was, I will maintain to this day, a very decent human being, at least as and while I knew him in the Cedu years. He was a rarity, in my experience, at the place.
There is a Sabro, who showed up on this forum, who I would like very much to talk with, if anyone can help with that.
As for final work - books, etc - there are always possibilities. My purpose is to make the work clear, accurate, representative of individual's points-of-view, and to make it easily publicly available. That, to me, is the first step, and where I can be of use.
Those of you with film cameras, or with aspirations to further work, I think there's plenty there, and the interview series will be of good use to you.
I expect to be done with this work - interview taking - by year's end, and to be transcribing and releasing the work through the first half of 2008.
That's a probable schedule, given other work demands.
But don't wait, if you want to give an interview! B/c at some point - probably Dec/Jan, I'll have to focus my attention on the transcribing and editing for publication.
Thanks for your interest, all, and do email me, not here, but at
http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff (http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff)
Be well all, bests,
Liam
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PS - And for the record, I do not know, am not affiliated with, am not working with or for the Sue Scheff, "parent advocate", in question.
Scheff is a fairly rare last name, and I don't know how it got stuck to both of us. As a rule, I don't tend to feel much sympathy for parents who need "advocates" to send their children away to military and reform schools.
To be fair though, I don't know the woman. I found her auto-bio blog here - http://www.helpyourteens.com/true_story.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/true_story.html) - she seems to have fair criticisms of many of the programs.
But, fill me in on the story, if it's of interest.
Liam
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I am happy to talk with any and all who have a Cedu story to tell. Please see the post at the top, or the myspace page link, for details (in short - I am very simply trying to put some actual voices and experiences on the record, for posterity's sake, to record a very hidden bit of our American history...
As for final work - books, etc - there are always possibilities. My purpose is to make the work clear, accurate, representative of individual's points-of-view, and to make it easily publicly available. That, to me, is the first step, and where I can be of use.
I need an editor.
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Would you be willing to pay for the service? This Anon can edit with a high degree of professionalism but I'm not willing to do it for free, especially if it's big.
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Take a look at his other work before you agree to be interviewed. http://aidsmyth.blogspot.com/2005/07/mo ... cheff.html (http://aidsmyth.blogspot.com/2005/07/more-lies-from-liam-scheff.html)
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First of all, I wouldn't say the person makes a real stong argument for what a "liar" Liam is.
Secondly, Liam is a journalistic and aids is a very difficult topic. Of course he is going to have a stance. Some will agree and some will disagree.
Thirdly, Liam ATTENDED Cedu. He knows what we are talking about. He was there. For me, he was just a good listener as I spoke, but it was also nice to have someone relate and that could draw real Cedu examples from what I said.
Fourth - FUCK YOU...then don't be interviewed!
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Journalist...I hate typos
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The editing that I need for my project is not crossing t's and looking for faulty commas. It's telling the story factually and interesting to the outsider that is difficult. Testimony would be easier than telling the story of the entire program culminating especially to time immediately afterwards that is difficult. An editor that understands tenses and usage for telling a long story would be great but it's the last phase after content that is daunting to me:
1. Do the pitch to the publishing houses that consist of a whole lot of information I don't have time to compile.
2. Send out and research the publishing houses and previous works and their authors.
3. Plan the marketing strategy.
4. on
5.and on.
There are jobs that are writers' and their are jobs that are publisher's, and now we live in a time where the roles have changed. A first time author writing about a little known, niche of the fallout from the "war on drugs", is expected to do the work of the writer, editor, publisher, and publicist. I don't want to be a fucking writer anyway, I just want to tell this story and get it out there...and be done. So, it's a special role in collaboration that I'm holding out for. So far, I'm getting better at doing it on my own.
NEXT point of interest.
any person that wants to contribute a time line and a list of the experiences from the IandME and the Summit Workshops would be helping me, and posterity greatly. I have been taking time off from this last bit of content for editorial purposes, and I'm ready to start wrapping my book up. Really explaining the nature of those last workshops and the "trust counseling sessions" and stuff in the last six months ain't easy. There were some rewrites going on inside my brain and it's capturing those changes over a couple of hundred pages that has been challenging, rewarding, and liberating.
I hope Liam gives me a call, I've been waiting to chat with him about his project and also guess he must be sort of an interesting cat if he's got his own troll brigade. Either way, public interest is there for the descriptions of this whole slew of "teen adolescent boot camp wilderness survival therapeutic boarding reform behavior modification program academy even better than hospital they tell you SCHOOLs.
Let's give them accurate, informative, and if possible, interesting media for understanding what our experience was. In a truthful manner, even if your place made you a chicken dancing pig fucking shitheel child abuser, let's get the stories out there.
Thus ends my soliloquy.
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I have his email...
contact me at somethingshore@yahoo.com
I will give it to you so you can contact him directly.
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Hi,
still taking interviews, with about 7 done and 4 pending. Very interesting, illuminating, personally quite satisfying, to review with some of you the strange (and probably legally tenuous) experience of that very odd place.
Please contact me at http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff (http://www.myspace.com/liamscheff)
And don't be shy, please. If you have a story to tell, I'm doing my best to assemble a bit of research that will give some future use to writers, film-makers, investigators, etc.
Thanks to all who've been interviewed - I'm working on transcribing, takes a little time, but it's on its way.
Best regards to all,
Liam Scheff