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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: hanzomon4 on July 23, 2007, 01:34:33 AM

Title: AA group taking advantage of underage girls
Post by: hanzomon4 on July 23, 2007, 01:34:33 AM

Check out this article from the Washington post, Seeking Recovery, Finding Confusion (http://http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/21/AR2007072101356.html?nav=rss_health).

Title: AA group taking advantage of underage girls
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2007, 10:26:18 AM

Oh, I've been following this on Orange Papers.  He's got a ton of info on it.


http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-let ... l#Midtown4 (http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-letters85.html#Midtown4)

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-let ... town_links (http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-letters85.html#Midtown_links)



Video story here.

http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=105282 (http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=105282)

Title: AA group taking advantage of underage girls
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2007, 12:08:46 PM

I am not surprised as much as  disgusted. AA = creepy cult

Title: AA group taking advantage of underage girls
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2007, 02:29:38 PM

Quote from: ""Guest""

I am not surprised as much as  disgusted. AA = creepy cult

Spot on!!  That's actually where all this teen "help" shit was born.  People trying to combine religion and AA (like AA isn't religious enough anyway) and coming up with sick shit like Synanon (which is actually a contraction of "sin" and "anon").  Fucking Stepcraft cultists.

 ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::stab::

Title: AA group taking advantage of underage girls
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2007, 06:50:06 PM

Interesting as to how it relates to the TTI.

http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/cbook/chap6.html (http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/cbook/chap6.html)


Why We Should Reject The Disease Concept of Alcoholism

Herbert Fingarette, Ph. D.



But the greatest scandal of the argument for the disease concept as a useful lie is the claim that it helps alcoholics by inducing them to enter treatment. On the contrary, both independent and government research shows expensive disease-oriented treatment programs to be largely a waste of money and human resources (Fingarette, 1989). Their apparent success proves illusory when they are compared in statistically rigorous studies with other programs, and with the rate of improvement in untreated alcohol abusers (which is a much higher rate than the disease concept has led the public to believe). Very often, perhaps always, brief outpatient counseling works just as well as a long stay in a hospital orother residential clinic costing thousands of dollars. Some studies conclude that professional intervention is slightly better than no treatment, although it makes nodifference what the treatment method, duration, setting, or cost is. Other studies find no significant difference in results regardless of whether there is treatment.