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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: blombro on July 21, 2007, 02:38:16 AM

Title: Is this ok?
Post by: blombro on July 21, 2007, 02:38:16 AM
Edited for content.
Title: Re: Is this ok?
Post by: Karass on July 21, 2007, 03:47:26 AM
done
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 01:24:31 PM
Hey, what the fuck are you doing? Have you never heard of client confidentiality?    

The way I see it, there are two possibilities here:

1. You are fabricating a story that supports your justifications regarding sending children to only "mildly abusive" programs.

or,

2. You are actually posting a young girl's extraordinarily private information on an open forum that anyone can see, in such a way that her identity could be determined.


Either way, I am so terribly disappointed. I had only started reading your posts within the last few days and I was concerned about many of your postulations, but also glad to see more intelligent discourse on the subject of children's rights and advocacy. However, you are far more misguided than I thought.


On the subject of your post, if this is a real girl's story, please remove it for her sake. If it's simply a hypothetical scenario, state as much and I'll leave you be.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: nimdA on July 21, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: ""Rachael""
Hey, what the fuck are you doing? Have you never heard of client confidentiality?    

The way I see it, there are two possibilities here:

1. You are fabricating a story that supports your justifications regarding sending children to only "mildly abusive" programs.

or,

2. You are actually posting a young girl's extraordinarily private information on an open forum that anyone can see, in such a way that her identity could be determined.


Either way, I am so terribly disappointed. I had only started reading your posts within the last few days and I was concerned about many of your postulations, but also glad to see more intelligent discourse on the subject of children's rights and advocacy. However, you are far more misguided than I thought.


On the subject of your post, if this is a real girl's story, please remove it for her sake. If it's simply a hypothetical scenario, state as much and I'll leave you be.


Very good points.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: psy on July 21, 2007, 01:30:47 PM
Quote from: ""Rachael""
However, you are far more misguided than I thought.


Y'aint seen sheeyit yet!

Welcome to Fornits, Brian!
Title: Re: Is this ok?
Post by: psy on July 21, 2007, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: ""blombro""
This is outside my role of a member of Youth ACT/CAFETY, so please do not construe these activities to impact anyway on the legitimacy of that organization, this is part of my day job


Ever heard of a little thing called "conflict of interest" ?
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Karass on July 21, 2007, 02:21:47 PM
I assumed this was a hypothetical -- perhaps a blending of different real life circumstances intended to elicit responses from this forum about making tough choices. I hope that's the case.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 03:12:53 PM
As long as the name of the minor is omitted, and the families name, this is not in any way a legal violation, client priviledge, or other.  I would, however, have to question the possibility of a conflict of interest, and that would depend on the either job's policies.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 03:13:43 PM
As long as the name of the minor is omitted, and the families name, this is not in any way a legal violation, client priviledge, or other.  I would, however, have to question the possibility of a conflict of interest, and that would depend on of the either job's policies.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
As long as the name of the minor is omitted, and the families name, this is not in any way a legal violation, client priviledge, or other.  I would, however, have to question the possibility of a conflict of interest, and that would depend on of the either job's policies.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 03:36:22 PM
Ooops.  sorry 3x's.  Correction:  That would depend on either one of the  job's policies.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: hanzomon4 on July 21, 2007, 04:59:35 PM
I don't know if enough was posted to identify anyone but you're right Rachel. We have to keep confidentiality in mind when asking for help no matter how sincere we maybe. Charly's a lawyer right? Maybe you could PM her for some advice.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: blombro on July 21, 2007, 08:32:51 PM
The intent to obtain perspective was sincere, and there shouldn't and wouldn't be enough information here to identify the person or persons involved in the scenario that I presented unless they already have that privledged information to the case or cases, but I will remove the original post so that there's no issue of confidentiality to the individual or individuals involved to be on the safe side.

However, I will say that it is common practice to give case studies like these in a public forum for feedback on how to best approach the situation as long as no identifying information is given.

As for the conflict of interest, at least I don't believe that there is a conflict of interest between my work as a social worker and my work for Youth ACT.  My employers are aware of my work with CAFETY and now Youth ACT, and they are supportive of it.  Since our agencies mission is to give youth the choice of their services and to keep kids out of residential programs, my mission would seem to be identical in both situations.

Like I've said before, I have chosen to work in an area where I have persuaded parents to keep their kids at home instead of sending them to Ivy Ridge, managed to pull a kid out of a program in Pennsylvania against that school's recommendations, gotten kids released from juvenile detention.  The situation described is the only time where I have worked with a youth that under my watch the youth has been placed in a more restrictive setting, albeit if I wasn't involved the youth would have be placed in an even more restrictive setting.  I wanted to get feeback from this board to see if there was another way of going about the situation that would be to this youth's benefit.  I was asking for your help, since as it has been stated here much recently that I'm misguided.

Now, I'm going to edit the original post and ask for your forgiveness if it turns out I did something that wasn't kosher.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 08:41:53 PM
Blombro are you a licensed social worker?
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: blombro on July 21, 2007, 08:42:09 PM
Can the moderator (if there is one) edit the content of Gabba Gabba's reply?
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 08:45:29 PM
Why? What's wrong with it?
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 09:07:05 PM
And by asking for that, you ensured that half the anons and a few of the regs have saved it.

Never ask for anything to be removed from Fornits, regardless of your purpose. It simply doesn't work.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: blombro on July 21, 2007, 10:55:33 PM
I asked for the edit to his post, because since he quoted my statement, the same information that others thought might be confidential information (though probably not) is still available.  Just to be on the safe side, it seem like a good idea if he could remove the same info.

As for the other question, I am not a licensed clinical social worker, but I do similar work to others in my office that hold that title, and my supervisor is in fact a licensed clinical social worker.  I hold a bachelor's in psychology and a masters in public policy.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2007, 11:02:41 PM
Thanks, I thought I had read somewhere that your said you were a "social worker."  My mistake.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: psy on July 21, 2007, 11:46:44 PM
Quote from: ""blombro""
Can the moderator (if there is one) edit the content of Gabba Gabba's reply?


LOL.  Moderator?  on Fornits!?!?  This is a free speech zone mister.  I got "moderated" on Cafety once, and that was the last time I ever posted there.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2007, 01:46:23 AM
Happens a lot on the board I am on.  Fortunately, I have only been "edited/moderated" once, threatened a couple times too.  Oh well.
Title: Is this ok?
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2007, 04:24:52 PM
How do you even get a hold of these kid's cases? Do they just find you over the internet or something like they would a program?