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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: nimdA on July 10, 2007, 11:50:19 PM

Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: nimdA on July 10, 2007, 11:50:19 PM
I know Washington state has a law that lets 13 year old kids and up decide if they want treatment. What other states have something like this?
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Sidhe Shee on July 11, 2007, 12:40:01 AM
TSW

California has the same law, from 12 up.  See Auntie thread, re Nolo Press.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: nimdA on July 11, 2007, 12:52:45 AM
I'm not digging through that piece of shit thread.

Details please or link if possible.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2007, 12:53:09 AM
Isn't it nice to see TSW and Izzy chatting again?
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: nimdA on July 11, 2007, 12:59:46 AM
Me and Izzy have been talking for awhile on the blame everything on Izzy Thread.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2007, 12:27:40 PM
Any parent in any state can hire a kidnapper right now to be in their house within a couple days with their child in handcuffs, on their way to some godforsaken gulag. Laws, smaws... don't mean shit without enforcement.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: nimdA on July 11, 2007, 12:34:35 PM
That wasn't ever the question. The question is what states have the laws and what laws are they?

We both know you can kidnap a kid for under a 1000 with an over the phone order.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2007, 03:21:49 PM
Yea and the Kidnapper ....uh escort. Probably gets paid twice, from the parents and the school.
Title: Re: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: psy on July 11, 2007, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: ""TS Waygookin""
I know Washington state has a law that lets 13 year old kids and up decide if they want treatment. What other states have something like this?


Very true.  But do they have laws that govern "treatment".  (ie.  "Emotional Growth" / "Therapeutic" facilities that are technically considered "schools")
Title: Re: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: White Cracker Man on July 11, 2007, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""TS Waygookin""
I know Washington state has a law that lets 13 year old kids and up decide if they want treatment. What other states have something like this?

Very true.  But do they have laws that govern "treatment".  (ie.  "Emotional Growth" / "Therapeutic" facilities that are technically considered "schools")


I would think emotional growth,therapeutic facilities,etc would definitely be included in any laws applying to involuntary treatment of minors.

The problem might be that the law only applies to states with laws applying to involuntary treatment of minors, meaning a child can be made to receive treatment as long as the place of treatment  is not located in a state that has laws applying to involuntary treatment of minors.

Months ago, there was an ST thread that discussed this topic.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: nimdA on July 11, 2007, 11:54:17 PM
I believe you might be right about that Muldoon. However, the question still stands. What states have the choice in care laws to begin with?

I understand Washington State and California appear to have them.

Doesn't New York have something along those lines? Not sure how valid that would be with the Judge Rothberg(spelling?) Center for electrozap torture being located in New York.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2007, 10:49:07 AM
I am a fat child abuser. Give me some food and your kids. (munching sounds)
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Sidhe Shee on July 12, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
TSW

..."In the state of California a minor can:

...consent to his or her own mental health treatment or counseling on an outpatient basis or participate in a decision to consent to residential shelter services if he or she is at least 12 years old, is determined to be sufficiently mature to consent to residential shelter services, or is otherwise emanicapted." (Fam. Code Sec. 6920, 6921, 6924). (Nolo's Guide to California Law, 8th Ed., 2004).

Go to NoloPress.com if you want more information I can also link you to other legal sites if you want.  Just let me know.
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: Sidhe Shee on July 12, 2007, 12:50:33 PM
TSW  Here's your link.  I think you will find everything you need.

http://http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/state_statutes.html
Title: What states have laws for choice in care?
Post by: White Cracker Man on July 13, 2007, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: ""TS Waygookin""
I believe you might be right about that Muldoon. However, the question still stands. What states have the choice in care laws to begin with?

I understand Washington State and California appear to have them.

Doesn't New York have something along those lines? Not sure how valid that would be with the Judge Rothberg(spelling?) Center for electrozap torture being located in New York.


New York doesn't have any laws about involuntary treatment of minors. That might knock The Family Foundation School and Ivy Ridge,to name two schools that come to mind besides the electrozap program you mentioned,out of New York if there were a law preventing involuntary treatment of minors.