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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => EdCons and referring organizations and agencies => PURE Bullshit and CAICA => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 05, 2007, 03:20:27 PM
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http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/ (http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/)
Great, please identitfy the members so the public, if so interested, may contact board members to formally address any concerns or issues they may have with CAICA.
As for the comments posted on this "blog" I find it hard to believe that not one addresses the core issues raised in the "Patti Atwoods" emails.
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Isabelle Zehnder States:
This is a buyer beware market. There are no Federal laws in place to protect children who are placed into such programs. There is no governmental oversight.
http://www.parentpolice (http://www.parentpolice) blog.
Here is my question for Izzie:
How can you make that statement and then turn around and advocate on behalf of PURE and Scheff?
Do you realize that when and if the industry ever becomes regulated people like Scheff will be put out of business? Why? Because she doesn't have the education and training (credentials) to recommend programs. Sure she had a bad experience with WWASP but that doesn't mean she is qualified to determine what a good program is.
What she is doing is dangerous. She is just another example of why the industry needs to be regulated. She is selling a false since of security to parents. It is wrong and it needs to be stoped.
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This was posted on the troubled teen industry forum.
NOTE TO GENERAL PUBLIC and CAICA's BOARD OF DIRECTORS:
CAICA (and PURE) are listed on ISAC's program and referrer watchlist.
http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp)
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LOLS has Sue Scheff posted a comment on Izzy's Patti Atwoods blog?
:rofl:
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How sad, but totally predictable. Unfortunately, I can no longer support Justice4kids given the statement by it's founder. Just doesn't seem appropriate to me under the circumstances.
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What kind of support were you giving to Justice 4 Kids? Were you financially donating? Or were you helping them with all the kids who are being abused in Florida? If so why would you stop helping when it's about the kids? That really doesn't make sense. And if you weren't giving money or helping them then I'm not sure what you mean that you were supporting them.
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What kind of support were you giving to Justice 4 Kids? Were you financially donating? Or were you helping them with all the kids who are being abused in Florida? If so why would you stop helping when it's about the kids? That really doesn't make sense. And if you weren't giving money or helping them then I'm not sure what you mean that you were supporting them.
Wow - what's it to you, guest? So what if someone wants to pull their support, whatever it may be. That's their perogative.
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Because people are so quick to spew out negativities towards people who are actually doing good for kids. Now isn't that what all this is about? What's best for the kids?
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Hello? Justice4Kids isn't the only advocacy group in Florida, or nationwide for that matter, one can lend their support to. Let's not overdramatize someone's personal decision not to support this particular organization by suggesting in doing so they are hurting kids. That's really pushing it too far, guest.
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IS IT "best for kids" to refer kids to Sue Scheff/PURE for placement in programs; or to refer them to goons at Sunrise Adolesent Transports, HUH IZZY?
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I sometimes wonder if people who post on fornits read all the posts or just jump in and start posting without knowing what they're even talking about.
If you go back and read, she didn't refer anyone to Sunrise to put a kid in a program. You form your opinions based on what you read on this board which is kinda scary if you ask me. But of course no one asked me. Ha! :lol:
I know she'd never do that, send a kid off to some program. She hates programs as much as you do. Get it? :flame: Whether y ou like her or not you should know she'd never send a kid to a program.
She gave this fake Patti woman what she asked for. The number for the escort company antoher parent used to get her nephewout [/color]of TB.
This Patti was going to use the transport company to pick her familiy up at the airport in Jamaica, drive them to TB, pick up the kid, take them all back tot he airport, and the kid would go home with his family. :D
They didn't want to use Jamaican drivers. Can't say I blame them for that, even though Patti wasn't a real person. :scared:
And they all went home, happy ending!!! (or would have been if the story had been true!) ::birthday:: ::cheers:: ::rocker:: ::peace:: ::drummer:: ::kiss:: ::heart:: ::rainbow::
::trophy:: ::trophy:: ::trophy:: ::trophy:: ::trophy:: ::trophy::
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And where exactly was IZZY's FRIEND SUE AT PURE going to send this child? Scheff refers to PROGRAMS, guest!
And Izzy referred to PURE.
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IS IT "best for kids" to refer kids to Sue Scheff/PURE for placement in programs; or to refer them to goons at Sunrise Adolesent Transports, HUH IZZY?
Good question!
Why would Justice4Kids support CAICA who apparently thinks it's okay to bash parents and kids who allege they were abused and defrauded by the now-closed Whitmore Academy? Which isn't even listed on CAICA's facility watchlist unlike other CLOSED programs.
Shouldn't all victims of alleged abuse be supported particularly while a civil suit is still going on? Or do only some abused kids tell the truth?
Justice for some abused children (e.g. WWASPS) but not others?
Hard to blame anyone for having a problem with Izzy or any org. that supports her kind of "advocacy", I agree.
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I sometimes wonder if people who post on fornits read all the posts or just jump in and start posting without knowing what they're even talking about.
Likewise
If you go back and read, she didn't refer anyone to Sunrise to put a kid in a program.
Yes she did. she referred Patti to sunrise to transport her nephew from TB to a program recommended by PURE.
You form your opinions based on what you read on this board which is kinda scary if you ask me. But of course no one asked me. Ha! :lol:
OK. Who are you, anonymous guest. I am Michael Crawford who has provided ample evidence for everything I have said.
I know she'd never do that, send a kid off to some program.
Well. You know wrong. She did do just that, through pure. Another program wasn't Patti's idea either. Patti initially wanted to find a regular academic boarding school for her nephew.
She hates programs as much as you do. Get it? :flame: Whether y ou like her or not you should know she'd never send a kid to a program.
If that was true, i would have no problem with her at all. I would be grateful.
She gave this fake Patti woman what she asked for.
Patti did not initially ask for a program. She was convinced to do so.
The number for the escort company antoher parent used to get her nephewout [/color]of TB.
and into a program recommended by PURE.
I know you have read Izzy's side of the story, and the very selective few letters she posted... but have you read the rest of the correspondence from the beginning (http://http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/files/Patti.zip)?
Or for that matter, have you read the entire debacle from the beginning:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=264362#264362 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=264362#264362)
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CAICA SPOKESPERSON:
You need to get your facts straight.
CAICA does refers kids to programs. Izzabelle admitted that she helped facilitate the placement of a child in a PURE recommended program.
Ooops.
:cry2: :oops: :scared: ::bangin:: ::mecry::
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Yeah right. Izzy referred a parent to an unlicensed, unregulated transport company in Utah (which as it turns out is owned by a former TEEN HELP admissions rep) as a TAXI SERVICE?
Hello? That's an awfully expensive taxi ride.
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Can these Izzy folks not read?
Izzy referred PATTI to Sue Scheff/PURE BEFORE she ever engaged in email exchanges and phone calls with PATTI.
Izzy decided to refer PATTI to Sue Scheff/PURE just from the information she was given by her MySpace friend, Sandy.
READ!!!!!!
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Isabelle Zehnder can protest all she wants, but referring children into unregulated programs by way of her friend and colleague's company PURE is proof positive that CAICA does not live up to it's disclaimer of not referring children to programs. Whether it happened once, twice, or dozens of times, it does not matter. What matters is it happened.
That's my personal take on the situation.
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It appears three of the comments posted on this blog in support of CAICA were written by people chosen by Isabelle Zehnder as CAICA ADVOCATES OF THE MONTH.
Cathy Corry
Mark Caldwell
Dawn Chase
http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/ (http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/)
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Wasn't Sue Scheff an "Advocate of the Month?"
Wonder why she's not commenting? After all she was on the receiving end of her friend Izzy's referral, wasn't she?
Gotta wonder how strong this "friendship" might be, since Izzy seemed to think that the PURE TELEPHONE NUMBER was Sue's private home phone number.
Wonder why Izzy didn't just DISCLOSE that she was handing out the phone number to PURE?
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Wasn't Sue Scheff an "Advocate of the Month?"
Wonder why she's not commenting? After all she was on the receiving end of her friend Izzy's referral, wasn't she?
Gotta wonder how strong this "friendship" might be, since Izzy seemed to think that the PURE TELEPHONE NUMBER was Sue's private home phone number.
Wonder why Izzy didn't just DISCLOSE that she was handing out the phone number to PURE?
It is odd isn't it? Zehnder claiming she had permission to give this person her friend's private/home number when in reality, it was PURE's business number?
What was Zehnder's explanation, assuming she even offered one?
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So who ARE the Caica board members?
T.I.A.
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Yes she did. she referred Patti to sunrise to transport her nephew from TB to a program recommended by PURE.
No, actually if you read closer she was supposed to coach him over the summer to try to get him into a safe local private school in the fall. Remember?
It was Patti's sister who wanted the names of two programs and Patti was just appeasing her sister. So read it again.
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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/ (http://helpteentroubled.com/)
It leads to other links, including this:
http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011 (http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=Help%20for%20Troubled%20Teen&OVKEY=help%20for%20troubled%20teen&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=11397970511&OVKWID=7487696011)
Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.
And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/ (http://teenhelp.us/)
It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.
Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.
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How about Isabelle saying: I'm sorry Patti.. I don't recommend to programs. I can help you with your situation..by giving you some off the record advise on how to get your nefew out of TB... but, I am afraid it would be unethical of me ... as an advocate ... who can NOT assure the safety of your nefew if your sister were to put him into another program.
Isabelle-- if you plan to continue to "advocate" you need to get a backbone. It doesnt matter it the parent "asked" or not. You still refered them to Sue .. who has refered parents to UNSAFE programs. It is documented. Your support of that has lost you credibility. It matters not if "Patti" was real or not. If you were to stand up to a parent and say.. I do not support placing children in these types of programs.. so I can not refer you to anyone.. is another way to get the point accross to the parent .. these are bad .. stay away from them. It is completely obvious you jumped at refering to Sue. There is not any discussion that there was any kind of struggle to get that info from you. She asked.. you provided. Simple as that. What was it a day later.. you and Sue came "out" and admitted to "teamwork?". Back peddle as you may.. it is all documented.
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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/ (http://helpteentroubled.com/)
It leads to other links, including this:
http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011 (http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=Help%20for%20Troubled%20Teen&OVKEY=help%20for%20troubled%20teen&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=11397970511&OVKWID=7487696011)
Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.
And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/ (http://teenhelp.us/)
It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.
Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.
From the www.antiwwasp.com (http://www.antiwwasp.com) website
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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/ (http://helpteentroubled.com/)
It leads to other links, including this:
http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011 (http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=Help%20for%20Troubled%20Teen&OVKEY=help%20for%20troubled%20teen&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=11397970511&OVKWID=7487696011)
Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.
And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/ (http://teenhelp.us/)
It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.
Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.
You have posted this on the wrong thread.. this belongs on the WWASP thread. They have their own niche here as well. Trying to diluting what Sue/IZ do by pointing fingers at does not deflect from the fact they directly or indirectly refer parents to programs that are unsafe and abusive in nature.
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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/ (http://helpteentroubled.com/)
It leads to other links, including this:
http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011 (http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=Help%20for%20Troubled%20Teen&OVKEY=help%20for%20troubled%20teen&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=11397970511&OVKWID=7487696011)
Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.
And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/ (http://teenhelp.us/)
It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.
Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.
From the www.antiwwasp.com (http://www.antiwwasp.com) website
If I am not mistaken .. that is an ad supported site. The admin of the site can not make a choice in the advertising on the page... anymore than the comericals that come on in your living room.
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I know she'd never do that, send a kid off to some program. She hates programs as much as you do. Get it? Whether y ou like her or not you should know she'd never send a kid to a program.
How can you make that statement. She did what she did. She referred the parent to PURE who in turn will work to refer the kid to a program.
How about Isabelle saying: I'm sorry Patti.. I don't recommend to programs. I can help you with your situation..by giving you some off the record advise on how to get your nefew out of TB... but, I am afraid it would be unethical of me ... as an advocate ... who can NOT assure the safety of your nefew if your sister were to put him into another program.
Ditto. Be a true advocate, for the kids, not for PURE. Remember, it is an unregulated industry. The people placing kids and taking care of the kids are ex hospital kitchen workers (example: Scheff) and ex used car salesman (example: Litchfield).
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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/ (http://helpteentroubled.com/)
It leads to other links, including this:
http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011 (http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=Help%20for%20Troubled%20Teen&OVKEY=help%20for%20troubled%20teen&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=11397970511&OVKWID=7487696011)
Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.
And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/ (http://teenhelp.us/)
It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.
Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.
A day late and a dollar short sugar tits. We already took his ass down.
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Stop the spamming--the Kevin August issue at anti-wwasp website was settled when he deleted his "referral compay" from that website. Unlike IZZY, he aplogized and SAYS he got his butt out of the business of selling kids into PROGRAMS.
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Guest stated, "Its hard to imagine why you'd go aftr an advocate who doesn't allow a single ad on her site...."
GUEST, first of all, calling Izzy an "ADVOCATE" may be a huge stretch; since a true child advocate would not refer a child to Scheff/PURE who has no credetials to be referring any child to any program; and Scheff is unethicallly paid by the PROGRAMS SHE REFERS TO, OK?
Secondly, Izzy does have ADS on CAICA.
Izzy advertises her own for-profit company, Positive Family Solutions to sell her coaching services every chance she seems to find.
Izzy seems to link to Scheff/Pure at every opportunity available.
Izzy promotes her little radio chats on the Rose Moore show.
Izzy advertises her floundering Fundraiser on CAICA.
Izzy advertises her "friend Sue's book all the time.
It is reported that Izzy said she was going to make this ADVOCACY pay her money; and Izzy seems to be right on task.
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Izzy sells Izzy, too, the pompous, self-important windbag. the crap she writes about herself makes it sound like she's a lone martyr, single-handedly exposing Tranquility Bay, the lone voice crying in the wilderness for change...and bills, lots of presidential portraits for her and Sue, unqualified as they are to be in the unethical businesses they're in.
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(http://http://www.foureyesjokeshop.com/ProductImages/thejokebar/wind-up-teeth.jpg)
Wish I knew how to "animate" this pic, LOLS.
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Wouldn't it seem that Izzy would put out a PRESS RELEASE, or at least BLOG BLOG BLOG and introduce a "board of directors" if she had one? That is what CEO's and Presidents do, now isn't it?
But then, companies doing fundraisers and offering "tax dedutible" status to any donators usuallly post their IRS information, too don't they.
Wonder why Izzy removed the CHINS site that was keeping up with the donations on her floundering fundraiser? The last count showed a whooping $100 raised, right? Guess those "advocates of the month" just didn't get around to donating, yet.
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Stop the spamming--the Kevin August issue at anti-wwasp website was settled when he deleted his "referral compay" from that website. Unlike IZZY, he aplogized and SAYS he got his butt out of the business of selling kids into PROGRAMS.
He has ads to make money and could take those down I'm sure. They lead to WWASPS and other abusive programs. So it's not all innocent over there. They're leading parents to abusive sites so it is very relevant.
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Has Kevin August referred a person to PURE or to a teen escort company that is run by an ex-wwwasp employee of TEEN HELP?
When he did try that with his referral company teenhelpus--he was attacked on fornits and cafety: and he pulled the referral company.
Posters can't control how he runs his website; except fnot to register and participate on his website.
Why don't YOU discuss this issue with Kevin August if YOU'RE so concerned with google ads.
Are you concerned that Isabelle Zehnder refers to PURE and to a teen escort company; and that she admits she helped place another child in a program; YET, Izzy's disclaimer says she does not refer children to programs; and she's written an article denouncing teen escorts?
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Back to the OT
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Dr Fucktard is a member.
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I don't think the Doctor would lower him-self to associate with her.
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is antiwwasp a male enhancement website now? It seems to be -
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LOLS ... lookie here ... Izzy appears to be enhancing CAICA!
http://www.caica.org (http://www.caica.org)
Lower Left Hand Corner (Under Defamation Articles)
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
EDITORIAL BOARD
etc.
I especially like the Parent Committee. Wonder what their job will be? Parents helping other parents? How original. Where does Izzy come up with these ideas?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:lol:
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What the hell? When I tried to sign the petition from the link
http://www.caica.org (http://www.caica.org) to end face-down restraints I was taken to PayPal. You can't sign without paying Izzy? The petition on the homepage doesn't take you to PayPal. What's up with that, Big Iz?
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I especially like the Parent Committee. Wonder what their job will be? Parents helping other parents? How original. Where does Izzy come up with these ideas?
uhhh that would be the parents helping ...blah blah P.U.R.E ::dove:: ::unhappy::
Izzys partner in (alleged) crime.
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Have to ask, What is a NPC Committe?
Won't even say what runs through the mind when seeing N P C and thinking about Izzy !!!!!
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What is NPC?
Is Berryman connected to CAICA? That dude has been MIA for a long time ever since he got nominated as AOM. Poor guy. He really took a wrong turn somewhere, didn't he? Or was he always out to lunch? I seem to remember him advocating against the very people it appears he ended up supporting ... the referral industry? That is what PURE is and apparently, IZZY refers to PURE and transporters, too.
Wake up Jeff. It's not to late to bail out.
:rofl:
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Jeeeezz give it up.
Some posters begging Izzy to bail out of Scheff's clutches and "become the RIGHT KIND OF ADVOCATE"; and now someone is asking Jeff Berryman to bail out, too?
These people love Sue Scheff and are just like her.
Berryman has had YEARS to walk away from Scheff and her referral business.; hasn't he?
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Have to ask, What is a NPC Committe?
In role-playing games, an NPC is a character that does not have a human behind it. The PCs are the characters; the NPCs are all run by the GM (or the computer).
Therefore, an NPC committee is full of people who don't exist at all. :lol:
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Hell---why didn't I know that?
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Have to ask, What is a NPC Committe?
In role-playing games, an NPC is a character that does not have a human behind it. The PCs are the characters; the NPCs are all run by the GM (or the computer).
Therefore, an NPC committee is full of people who don't exist at all. :lol:
Man that is weird.
It's already been noted that Zehnder writes frequently in the WE or US mode and refers to herself as President of a Board of Directors that apparently disbanded not long after CAICA started, reportedly for lack of being able to obtain liability insurance according to a former board member, see Fornits Archives).
One blog, the Patti Atwoods one was written by the Editorial Board, with no explanation as to who or what that is.
All of these entities, Board of Directors, Editorial Board, Parents Committee, Research Committee, were published on CAICA a few days ago WITH NO ACTIVE LINKS.
Then there is this ... http://www.therosemooreshow.com (http://www.therosemooreshow.com)
Look at who designed the website AND who is linked heavily?
Weird. Just plain weird, IMO.
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Have to ask, What is a NPC Committe?
In role-playing games, an NPC is a character that does not have a human behind it. The PCs are the characters; the NPCs are all run by the GM (or the computer).
Therefore, an NPC committee is full of people who don't exist at all. :lol:
Man that is weird.
It's already been noted that Zehnder writes frequently in the WE or US mode and refers to herself as President of a Board of Directors that apparently disbanded not long after CAICA started, reportedly for lack of being able to obtain liability insurance according to a former board member, see Fornits Archives).
One blog, the Patti Atwoods one was written by the Editorial Board, with no explanation as to who or what that is.
All of these entities, Board of Directors, Editorial Board, Parents Committee, Research Committee, were published on CAICA a few days ago WITH NO ACTIVE LINKS.
Then there is this ... http://www.therosemooreshow.com (http://www.therosemooreshow.com)
Look at who designed the website AND who is linked heavily?
Weird. Just plain weird, IMO.
Oh... that is just too funny.
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What is NPC?
Is Berryman connected to CAICA? That dude has been MIA for a long time ever since he got nominated as AOM. Poor guy. He really took a wrong turn somewhere, didn't he? Or was he always out to lunch? I seem to remember him advocating against the very people it appears he ended up supporting ... the referral industry? That is what PURE is and apparently, IZZY refers to PURE and transporters, too.
Wake up Jeff. It's not to late to bail out.
:rofl:
Didn't Jeff used to post on fornits?
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Fornits search shows Scheff's lap-dog, Berryman, has 91 posts.
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I think there were a lot more, just under various names. He was a regular a few years back if I remember correctly.
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From the front page go to articles. His "Helpful Links" has the following:
Help for Troubled Teens
Directory of troubled teen programs nationwide. Get free information.
http://http://www.helpteentroubled.com
Help for Troubled Teens Resource Catalog
Find information on Help for Troubled Teens. View parent resource videos online or have them mailed to you for free. Receive parental and educational information on schools and programs.
http://http://www.TeenHelp.us
Diamond Ranch Academy - Troubled Teens
Residential treatment center for Troubled Teens ages 12 to 17. Through our proven real life transition program teens are taught real life skills in work, school and financial responsibility.
http://http://www.strugglingteens.us
We Help Troubled Teen Boys
Your "old" Son - Home in 9 months. Unique, Long Term Results, Call Now.
http://http://www.TopFlightAcadamy.com
Lifelines - Help For Troubled Teen
Lifelines Crisis Intervention provides help for troubled adolescents and resources for their parents. Our caring, confidential service offers programs and schools for problem teens.
http://http://www.teenlifelines.com
Troubled Teen Residential Treatment
Alternative residential treatment boarding school-theraputic treatment & education for at risk youth. Drug addiction, rebellion, depression, behavior modification.
http://http://www.discoveryacademy.com
Troubled Teens Resource Catalog Interventions for troubled teens. Free Catalog.
http://http://www.teenhelp.us
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To clarify the above post. Those are links from the www.antiwwasp.com (http://www.antiwwasp.com) website. This is what happens when people use Google Ads on their websites. Is it worth the little amount of $ made from the ads to potentially lead parents right to the very facilities he claims are abusive?
THe problem with this and that I think should be re-addressed with the owner of the site is that these websties that lead to WWASPS sites aren't obvious. People won't know they are WWASPS and if an anti-wwasp person says "Helpful Links" and then under those links the end up finding programs for kids that are WWASPS, the entire site helps no one.
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Izzy brags that both her and her husband started CAICA, so no doubt he's a board member, along with the names of her cats and dogs. :rofl:
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Does Izzy have a Board of Directors?
Did this Board approve of Izzy un-linking from Scheff/PURE?
Did the Board vote to take Scheff off the "Advocate of Month" list?