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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Oz girl on June 09, 2007, 08:57:37 AM

Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Oz girl on June 09, 2007, 08:57:37 AM
So I have an american houseguest who described in detail "purtiy balls" where fathers take their pubescent daughters to some kind of prom like event where the girl gets a ring and signs something claiming she will not have sex until marriage. The dad then passes the ring to the husband. Partially  because this sounded a little talibanesque, and partially because the thought of discussing your sexuality with your dad is too gross this houseguest was accused of having a lend of a gullible audience. Turns out it was not made up. i had heard of such balls but did not know they went this far. Apparently they do. Many people lost the bet with this houseguest when she proffered the proof on the internet:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/funda ... nd214.html (http://www.rickross.com/reference/fundamentalists/fund214.html)

 ::puke::

What are peoples thoughts on this creepy fad
Title: Big Balls
Post by: Froderik on June 09, 2007, 10:41:12 AM
Wow, how puritanically weird...

Brings to mind that old song "Big Balls" by AC/DC...   :rofl:
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Ursus on June 09, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
This is absolutely sick.  Are these young women, and girls, mere chattel more or less owned by the personal whims of their fathers?  Whatever happened to educating our children how to be kind, loving, and respectful human beings first and foremost?
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Fire Swamp on June 09, 2007, 11:28:41 AM
Freedom and independence are as essential as the air we breathe!
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Truth Searcher on June 09, 2007, 11:29:41 AM
I actually caught this on TV a few weeks back.  It was most WEIRD!!  I remember thinking that most adolescent girls would be very uncomfortable with the idea of daddy knowing about her sexuality or lack thereof.

Most of the girls appeared to like the idea that daddy was her knight in shining armor so to speak.  That he was the protector of her virginity.  

I am all for dads being a very integral part of their daughters lives.  Studies show that girls who have warm healthy relationships with their dads tend to be less promiscuous and more fulfilled in their relationships once they are of age.  I am all for abstinence before marriage too.  But, this was so over the top ... I almost got the feeling of incestuousness.

It was creepy.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2007, 01:26:39 PM
Fundie religions always attract the creeps who want to use it as an excuse for control and deviant sexual behavior.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Deborah on June 09, 2007, 01:41:52 PM
I figured it would be for teens...

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The man’s date? His 25-year-old daughter. Welcome to Colorado Springs’ Seventh Annual Father-Daughter Purity Ball, held at the five-star Broadmoor Hotel. The event’s purpose is, in part, to celebrate dad-daughter bonding, but the main agenda is for fathers to vow to protect the girls’ chastity until they marry and for the daughters to promise to stay pure.

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Randy Wilson’s 19-year-old, Khrystian, is typical: She works at her church, spends most weekends at home with her family and has never danced with a male other than her father or brother. Emily Smith, an 18-year-old I meet, says that even kissing is out for her. “I made a promise to myself when I was younger,” she says, “to save my first kiss for my wedding day.”

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“This evening is more about spending time with her than her purity at this point,” says one seven-year-old’s dad, a trifle sheepishly. The event is seemingly innocent—not once do I hear “sex” or “virgin” cross anyone’s lips. Still, every one of the girls here, even the four-year-old, will sign that purity covenant.

SEVEN? FOUR? Sign a purity agreement? Do they even know what sex is?
Apparently not.

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When I ask Hannah Smith, 15, what purity means to her, she answers, “I actually don’t know.” Her older sister Emily jumps in: “Purity, it means…I don’t know how to explain it. It is important to us that we promise to ourselves and to our fathers and to God that we promise to stay pure until…. It is hard to explain.”
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: try another castle on June 10, 2007, 12:00:24 AM
Are these the balls that the Travelers' hold? Because it sounds almost identical to them, with the exception that the girls in the clan actually get married off at around 12 to an adult.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2007, 12:30:37 AM
Nope, these are just regular fundie girls...like Jessica Simpson. I don't know if her father brought her to a ball, but he did give her a purity ring in return for a urity pledge... when she was young. This is public knowledge.

Ick.

Its as if these guys are saying that their daughters' worth and character resides in their intact hymen. Ick.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Oz girl on June 10, 2007, 12:30:42 AM
no castel it actaully looks a lot more mainstream and suburban than that. Here is the link I was initially shown

http://www.generationsoflight.com/gener ... index.html (http://www.generationsoflight.com/generationsoflight/html/index.html)
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Froderik on June 10, 2007, 10:40:44 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Nope, these are just regular fundie girls...like Jessica Simpson. I don't know if her father brought her to a ball, but he did give her a purity ring in return for a (p)urity pledge... when she was young. This is public knowledge.

Ick.

Its as if these guys are saying that their daughters' worth and character resides in their intact hymen. Ick.

Yeah. Nothing wrong with encouraging girls to remain wary of the wiles of drooling males who are looking for an easy poke, but that's going a bit too far..

Next..  :rofl:
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2007, 01:36:53 AM
Just what place do the daughters of single mothers have in all this?  They have no father in shining armor to take his place as the protector of his daughter's virginity and defender of her reputation.  Just what does this say about the dichotomization of our society that, once again, single parents are of a lesser class?
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Oz girl on June 12, 2007, 07:10:43 AM
Oh one of the websites mentions that brothers or uncles & stepdads are alllowed to play big daddy if there is no literal father.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Carmel on June 13, 2007, 08:09:26 PM
I wouldnt be shocked in the slightest at the ratio of girls involved in these scenarios that get nightly "bonding" visits from their fathers or brothers or uncles.

Not shocked at all.  In fact, not that I could ever prove it...but I bet the ratio is higher in these circles than in most.  Id bet my right tit on in.  

Its just like everything else...when people need to make a gaudy show of their moral character...its almost certainly because in private they lack it the most.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2007, 08:13:55 PM
It would really suck to lose your right tit. You'd look like that Dutch ultimate fighter, Tra Whatshisname. You know, the one who lost his right tit.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Ursus on June 13, 2007, 10:30:11 PM
Quote from: ""Carmel""
...Its just like everything else...when people need to make a gaudy show of their moral character...its almost certainly because in private they lack it the most.


I agree.  It's a subject they are obsessed with for multiple reasons, ha!
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Deborah on June 13, 2007, 11:31:57 PM
Quote from: ""Carmel""
I wouldnt be shocked in the slightest at the ratio of girls involved in these scenarios that get nightly "bonding" visits from their fathers or brothers or uncles.

Not shocked at all.  In fact, not that I could ever prove it...but I bet the ratio is higher in these circles than in most.  Id bet my right tit on in.  

Its just like everything else...when people need to make a gaudy show of their moral character...its almost certainly because in private they lack it the most.


I'm with you Carmel. Is that a Tx thang? Being in the bible belt and all.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Carmel on June 14, 2007, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Quote from: ""Carmel""
I wouldnt be shocked in the slightest at the ratio of girls involved in these scenarios that get nightly "bonding" visits from their fathers or brothers or uncles.

Not shocked at all.  In fact, not that I could ever prove it...but I bet the ratio is higher in these circles than in most.  Id bet my right tit on in.  

Its just like everything else...when people need to make a gaudy show of their moral character...its almost certainly because in private they lack it the most.

I'm with you Carmel. Is that a Tx thang? Being in the bible belt and all.


What...molestation? Or using your breasts as collateral?
 :lol:
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: nimdA on June 14, 2007, 09:09:34 PM
Ok interesting survey.. What is the ratio of these girls making it to adulthood who were molested by their daddy/uncle/brother versus those who lost their virginity in the back seat of a car/behind the backstop at school/cheap motel room/ toilet stall/in their own bed.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2007, 02:05:08 AM
Quote from: ""A Program's Worst Nightmare""
Ok interesting survey.. What is the ratio of these girls making it to adulthood who were molested by their daddy/uncle/brother versus those who lost their virginity in the back seat of a car/behind the backstop at school/cheap motel room/ toilet stall/in their own bed.


hahaha.

maybe I missed the point of that post entirely, but I do have to say, you girls make it awfully hard to feel bad for you when there a bajillion 14 year old girls taking topless pictures of themselves with their arms folded across their chests in the bathroom mirror, which they promptly post on myspace. get real.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Ursus on June 15, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
hahaha.

maybe I missed the point of that post entirely, but I do have to say, you girls make it awfully hard to feel bad for you when there a bajillion 14 year old girls taking topless pictures of themselves with their arms folded across their chests in the bathroom mirror, which they promptly post on myspace. get real.


Which came first?  Society's prurient mindset, or 14 yo's posing for their myspace pictures?  And who is of the age more responsible for their actions?
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2007, 10:29:46 AM
I'm not making excuses for sick fucks that molest little girls, especially incestually (is that a word?). they deserve a painful death by fire. but at the same time...you strap a bunch of raw meat to your naked body and walk through a room of hungry pitbulls...what do you really think is going to happen?
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2007, 12:02:40 PM
You sound like youre hanging with the pitbulls.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
It's like those damn kids who just won't shut up or stop acting up... they were just asking to be beat up.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2007, 01:16:13 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
You sound like youre hanging with the pitbulls.


Oh yes, you have me all figured out. Shit, I don't even get aroused by girls over 16 anymore.
Title: Ewwww!!!
Post by: Ursus on June 15, 2007, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
You sound like youre hanging with the pitbulls.

Oh yes, you have me all figured out. Shit, I don't even get aroused by girls over 16 anymore.


 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
I think there are some "camps" that can make a more manly man out of you!
 ::seg::