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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Carmel on April 28, 2003, 10:59:00 AM

Title: Im sorry
Post by: Carmel on April 28, 2003, 10:59:00 AM
just wanted to let everyone know, I apologize for all of whtas been going on here lately.  Its all very petty, and I find it to be especially so now.

I lost my 5 year old daughter and my husband lost his mother and Aunt in a car accident yesterday afternoon.  Please, everyone say a prayer for them for me.....it would mean a great deal.

Carmel
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Post by: ehm on April 28, 2003, 11:11:00 AM
Carmel,
Our hearts go out to you and our thoughts are with you. I am so sorry for your loss. I mean that with deepest sincerity.

Morli and Xyla
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Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2003, 12:22:00 PM
So sorry for your losses. That is absolutly tragic.
I can't find an obituary or articale on those deaths anywhere in the Houstin Tx. newspapers I have looked in. Where will the funerals be held so that flowers can be sent to you and your family?
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Post by: hedwigfan on April 28, 2003, 01:16:00 PM
Carmel,
  I'm so sorry for your loss--my heart goes out to you and your family. Know that you are in my thoughts. Kris
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Post by: Carmel on April 28, 2003, 01:27:00 PM
I am appreciate your thoughts so much...thank you so very much.

It was about 200 miles outside of El Paso, TX.  She and his mother will be brought back here for services to Earthman funeral.  

They tell me she did not suffer, none of them did.  Thats enough for me to make it through this right now.

Again, I am so thankful for everyones understanding and I sincerely apologize for the past.
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Post by: ClayL on April 28, 2003, 01:47:00 PM
I read your post and cannot imagine the pain you must be experiencing. Please know that you have my deepest sympathy and my thoughts and prayers go with you. If there is anything I can do please feel free to call on me. I sent all my contact info to babalu@hotmail.com.

With warmest wishes

Clay
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Post by: kpickle39 on April 28, 2003, 01:54:00 PM
Carmel - so very sorry to hear about your loss.  It is very tragic.  You and yours are in my prayers.

Mike
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Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2003, 02:10:00 PM
Just wanting you to know we are thinking of you and your husband.  We are so sorry for your loss and will be praying for peace and comfort.  
Sincerely,
Powerful Attitude's Wife
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Post by: METALGOD8 on April 28, 2003, 02:19:00 PM
Shelby and I send our condolences. Please let us know if there's anything we can do.
Shelby and MG8
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Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2003, 02:24:00 PM
Carmel,
    I will not pretend to know what you are going through right now but will tell you that I feel extremly sad for your loss. I pray that God gives your husband and you strenght to help you deal with your sorrow. You have a lot of people here for you. Bad things happen to good people so don't feel bad about the past.
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Post by: Diane B on April 28, 2003, 02:56:00 PM
Carmel,

I am so sorry to hear about your loss, my thoughts and prayers are with you.  If you need anything please let let me know allbaker6@netscape.net.

Diane
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Post by: Antigen on April 28, 2003, 08:38:00 PM
I don't know what else to say except us too. Words can't express it. But our hearts go out to you.
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Post by: marika708 on April 28, 2003, 09:15:00 PM
Carmel, I am so sorry that you are going through this, I read your post at work earlier and the firewalls won't let me post from there anymore, so I had to wait until tonight.  I worked next to a woman for 4 years who lost one daughter to leukemia and then 18 months later the other one died in an accident.  I am so sorry, I wish there was a way we could turn back time.  Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers.

Marika

668: The Neighbor of the Beast
--Anonymous Postman

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Post by: Tampa survivor on April 28, 2003, 11:04:00 PM
Carmel,
Devestation has entered your life, as mine spins along like yours was a few days ago.  Why?  It happens, we say, until it happens closer to home, like it has to you.
Tonight I shall walk through my house an extra time or two, as I have already since reading your post.  I will look at my children and be reminded, yet again, that we are not permanent.
Carmel, I wish I could help.  No man should loose a mother and child on the same day. Your husband and you will need each other more than ever.  
I held what I still had after a terrible loss many years ago.  What you still have will help you see the daffodils bloom again, in time.
Bill
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Post by: ramprato on April 28, 2003, 11:24:00 PM
I am also so sorry for your losses Carmel and I will be preying for you......Ken :sad:
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Post by: JDavid on April 29, 2003, 01:08:00 AM
this is the deepest dimention of sorrow and devastation there is.  We mourn the rest of our lives while keeping them immortal in memory.  No matter how much time passes, never feel as though grieving is wrong, yet always feel free to experience the happiness they would always wish for you.  I am helpless, so I grieve along with you.  I hope to hear from you again soon.
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Post by: Tampa survivor on April 30, 2003, 11:33:00 PM
Guess what?  You were the first thing I wanted to see about on Fornits, so I thought I'd move ya up where you belong.
In my thoughts you are.
I wish I could do more.  I am so far away.
Bill
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Post by: mcadaret on May 01, 2003, 04:03:00 PM
Carmel,

Words fail in times like these. The least I can do is follow Bill's lead and keep you on top.

Know of my continued prayers for you.

your brother,
Michael

The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics
is often very tolerant and human. But when fanatics are on top,
there is no limit to oppression.

--H.L. Mencken

Title: Im sorry
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2003, 09:53:00 AM
::heart::
With Deepest Sympathy my friend.
Title: Im sorry
Post by: Carmel on May 03, 2003, 03:39:00 PM
Just a drop in to thank you all so much again.  

My baby still isnt home, they had to cremate her and her grnadmother there at the facility in the middle of nowhere....so tey havent come home yet.  They should be here by Monday, and our service is Monday at 8:00 pm.  I know some were interested in sendng flowers and such, this is so thoughful but not necessary....however I wil post the information here as soon as possible.

Again, thank you for your words of sympathy and prayers.....every simge one of them is being taken to heart and used as fuel for living at this very moment by all of us here.  It has been phenomenal the outpouring of love and how much it all has carried us through this time.
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Post by: JDavid on May 04, 2003, 04:26:00 AM
Hello Carmel.  I sent you a private message.
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Post by: Majiktrvls on May 06, 2003, 08:38:00 AM
Carmel, just to let you know that you are in my thoughts. I am hopeful that your daughter's memorial service yesterday went as well as could be expected under the circumstances. I cannot imagine what you are going through, but I wanted to let you know that I was thinking of you. Peace be with you and your family, now and always.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2003, 10:34:00 PM
Just keeping this on top to let you know that you are in our thoughts.
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Post by: JDavid on May 08, 2003, 11:05:00 PM
I have found the obituaries for Gabrielle and Robin, but I have not found the one for Carmel's husband's aunt.  At the bottom of the page, you can put 04/27/2003 and click search and it will show only these two people: http://www.earthmanfunerals.com/Obits/Index.html (http://www.earthmanfunerals.com/Obits/Index.html)

I sure hope it's ok to show this.  I'm guessing you all would like to see a little more about who we are talking about.  I was waiting for Carmel to come back & show us, but it looks like Carmel is taking a long break from visiting the board.
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Post by: Carmel on May 11, 2003, 03:20:00 AM
Hello all,

Just a quick update....

I am in Charleston SC, my boss flew my husband and I and our son here for some relaxing recovery time.   Its been rough one this last week or so.  Tomorrow is mothers day and I am at a loss.  

The service was beautiful, by baby is home now...it was a very humbling and painful blow to hold her small bag of ashes in my arms....but she is home..its were she wanted to be....

Please, everyone kiss your babies tonight and look in their eyes like you have never done before...the moments are precious.  I cannot begin to convey the love and support that has poured in from friends and family alike...including you all.  

Many nights the demons have been chasing me, they are real...I know this now...abush, I may have something very closely in commmon with your experience now...we should talk.

Its 3 am and I am a bit disjointed....I will try to make it around more often soon.  Again, I cant thank everyone enough...

Many thanks,

Carmel
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Post by: METALGOD8 on May 11, 2003, 10:16:00 AM
Thank you too Carmel, for being here after all that you have been through recently.
Take care,
MG8 :smokin:
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Post by: JDavid on May 14, 2003, 05:34:00 PM
I know the pain is unbearable, but if it reaches a level to where you feel it cannot be possible to live with it, remember they would have wanted you to live on.  Plus, the other survivors who were close to them need you.  You seem very strong so far.  I am mainly just expressing hope that that strength does not disappear.
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Post by: Carmel on May 16, 2003, 09:58:00 AM
Hey all,

Just wanted to drop in and say thanks again.

Its been rough, harder than I thought possible.   Been home from SC for a week now, and its scary.  I find fear is my biggest enemy now rather than anger or sadness.  Being alone is a hell of thing.  I miss her so much, I miss tucking her in at night, I miss combing her hair, I miss telling her to quit jacking around and finish her food.....its such an empty feeling.

I weaned myself off all medicine, relatively quickly I think.  Now all there is between her and I is time.  someday we will meet.
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Post by: JDavid on May 16, 2003, 11:01:00 AM
I understand what you're saying about "some day we will meet".  I hope you are planning on that being a natural process, right?  You're not interested in speeding it up is what I'm trying to say.  

Those weren't vital health medications, were they?  Just wondering.

You, your husband and your close family and friends are closer than ever, I imagine.  I hope that is how it is.
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Post by: toddbrown on May 20, 2003, 02:05:00 AM
I spend much of my time on these sites now days, just trying to connect with others who have been through, what I thought was my own personal hell, that no one could possibly understand, and here you are experiencing it all over again.Iam so sorry I will pray for you
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Post by: Carmel on May 22, 2003, 04:02:00 PM
Thanks Todd, I did receive your e-mails and I am sorry I havent responded to them, its been difficult to sit down and hammer out e-mails to anyone lately....I sort of lose wind in the middle of doing it so I try and keep it minimal.

Days are getting better, we have lots of support and lots of understanding coming from all angles.  I am glad to hear that you have been doing well, and that things have worked out for you.  I added you to my Yahoo list, so feel free to drop me a message anytime....

Talk to you soon