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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Troll Control on April 26, 2007, 01:40:48 PM

Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 26, 2007, 01:40:48 PM
This document is archived in the public record.

Exerpted verbatim from Document 57, Case 2:06-cv-00146-WCO, a sworn affadavit from Leonard Buccellato:

Quote
Dr. Leonard Buccellato, who upon being duly sworn, testifies as follows:

4.  "...Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues."

5.  "Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month."

6.  "Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent."

7.  "Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to...students."

8.  "Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA..."

9.  "HLA...will not likely survive two months..."


Signed, Dr. Leonard Buccellato
2 February 2007



Exerpted verbatim from a letter to HLA parents from Leonard Buccellato, dated 25 April, 2007:

Quote
"....We are not making plans to close the school...  

...a couple of misinformed individuals perpetrated the idea, and continue today to speculate without any benefit of a knowledgeable base-in-fact...  

We are not short staffed as a few would like you to believe...  

Young single staff in particular, become dissatisfied with the amount of social and living amenities offered within the area and make the decision to leave in favor of a city or urban area. Some of our staff come to us through the local military community, which are subject to duty transfers more now than ever and leave...  

Again, we are not short staffed...

It is school as usual..."



Obviously, one set of statements is true and one set is false.  

The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"

Parents, you must review the public record.  You don't have to believe anything you read here.  Go to the source.  Compare Buccellato's sworn affadavit to the court with the email he authored to you.  

Does it pass the smell test? Is this an honest broker?  Is this someone who should be entrusted with the care of your child?  If he would lie to you or to the court about serious matters like this, what else may have you been misled about?  Look into it.  Go to the source documents.  See for yourself.  Your child and family deserve your effort to find the truth hidden in the lies.

If you'd like copies of these original documents you can PM and I will provide them to you.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Deborah on April 26, 2007, 02:09:02 PM
Is the judge and plaintiffs lawfirm aware of this letter?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2007, 02:19:52 PM
Yes letter sent
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 26, 2007, 02:24:22 PM
I'm unaware of what the judge knows, but it's doubtful it would have gotten to his attention this quickly.  I am aware, however, that the palintiffs and their attorneys are cognizant of it and are following up.

Interestingly, despite this letter, I have been told by a few current HLA parents that as soon as they get their kids out - they are waiting until the end of the academic year - they will also be signing up to the class action suit or retaining private counsel to pursue issues they describe as "fraud."  Some related that they are "afraid" to speak up until their kids are home for fear of "retaliation" against them or their children.

This email, in my opinion, will become entered into evidence in the class case and/or other individual suits.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: RobertBruce on April 26, 2007, 02:30:56 PM
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Summer is historically a difficult time for parents. With family vacations and general summer activities children are sorely missed. It is understandable that parents would like to have their child home early, therefore, they ask us to make academic exceptions. Doing so could seriously jeopardize our accreditation. We cannot give grades a student has not earned.


Did he put this part in just to scare parents from pulling their kids? What difference would it make if a parent pulled their kid before the term began? Are the employing the "we might lose your transcript" technique again?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: happyday7 on April 26, 2007, 02:58:10 PM
Yes, they are using the not turning over the transcripts thing to parents pulling their kids out early. It is a pretty powerful thing when they tell you they will fail your kid for the school grade if they do not finish the semester after parents have invested that much money. They have parents by the KAHUNAS.  :evil:  :(
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 26, 2007, 03:02:47 PM
In fact, witholding transcripts is against the law in Georgia.  they may charge a limited fee for copies, but may not withold transcripts.

If this has happened to you, lodge a complait with the DoE.  HLA will be forced to release the transcripts without delay.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: happyday7 on April 26, 2007, 03:16:59 PM
Thanks for that tip. That is good to know. It states in the contract that parents sign at HLA that they will not release transcripts to you until your full balance has been paid.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: RobertBruce on April 26, 2007, 03:36:12 PM
Another manipulation they wont be able to get away with once the licensure kicks in.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 26, 2007, 03:39:50 PM
With or without licensure they may not lawfully withold transcripts.

You may also want to lodge a complaint with ORS and SACS-CASI.  ORS may or may not be interested in this, but SACS-CASI is the accreditor and should know that HLA is unlawfully witholding student records.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: happyday7 on April 26, 2007, 03:42:18 PM
I thought they could hold those transcripts if the parents signed the contract agreeing to not being able to get the transcripts until all monies had been paid to HLA.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2007, 03:45:18 PM
Judge O'Kelley's decison is expected shortly as the two weeks are up tomorrow.  Either way, if he does not class the case, the private cases will all be on his desk, as the out of state parents are his jurisdiction.  The parents from Georgia will not be in his court. Each family is committed to following this thru..they are all fine, good people and it has been an honour to know them.  So, although HLA is already planning their victory dance, "it's not over til the fat lady
sings"... and "we shall not go quietly into the night"..
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: RobertBruce on April 26, 2007, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
With or without licensure they may not lawfully withold transcripts.

You may also want to lodge a complaint with ORS and SACS-CASI.  ORS may or may not be interested in this, but SACS-CASI is the accreditor and should know that HLA is unlawfully witholding student records.


You can also file a complaint with the dept of ed under the FERPA laws. I'm fairly certain licensure will put a stop to this practice as an institute cannot hold transcripts provided all debts are paid.
Title: Re: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 27, 2007, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
This document is archived in the public record.

Exerpted verbatim from Document 57, Case 2:06-cv-00146-WCO, a sworn affadavit from Leonard Buccellato:

Quote
Dr. Leonard Buccellato, who upon being duly sworn, testifies as follows:

4.  "...Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues."

5.  "Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month."

6.  "Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent."

7.  "Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to...students."

8.  "Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA..."

9.  "HLA...will not likely survive two months..."


Signed, Dr. Leonard Buccellato
2 February 2007



Exerpted verbatim from a letter to HLA parents from Leonard Buccellato, dated 25 April, 2007:

Quote
"....We are not making plans to close the school...  

...a couple of misinformed individuals perpetrated the idea, and continue today to speculate without any benefit of a knowledgeable base-in-fact...  

We are not short staffed as a few would like you to believe...  

Young single staff in particular, become dissatisfied with the amount of social and living amenities offered within the area and make the decision to leave in favor of a city or urban area. Some of our staff come to us through the local military community, which are subject to duty transfers more now than ever and leave...  

Again, we are not short staffed...

It is school as usual..."


Obviously, one set of statements is true and one set is false.  

The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"

Parents, you must review the public record.  You don't have to believe anything you read here.  Go to the source.  Compare Buccellato's sworn affadavit to the court with the email he authored to you.  

Does it pass the smell test? Is this an honest broker?  Is this someone who should be entrusted with the care of your child?  If he would lie to you or to the court about serious matters like this, what else may have you been misled about?  Look into it.  Go to the source documents.  See for yourself.  Your child and family deserve your effort to find the truth hidden in the lies.

If you'd like copies of these original documents you can PM and I will provide them to you.


Hey, Ringo, you nutless and gutless little weasel, can you explain this for us?  Or are you staggering around with a .45 caliber hole in yer forehead?

Seriously, explain it.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on April 30, 2007, 09:27:47 AM
Still waiting for someone from HLA to explain why Bucci's statements to the court were opposite from the ones he made to parents?  

Ringo?  FJ?  Anyone?  Why so mum on the subject? :roll:
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on May 03, 2007, 02:35:45 PM
Hello?  Hel-looo?  Hel-loooooo.....?

I thought I'd at least get an insult in response.  You fuckers have nothing to say about this? :roll:

I just want to know who was being lied to, the Judge or the Parents?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: happyday7 on May 03, 2007, 02:39:16 PM
Now we ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL know that Bucci lied to the parents for sure.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on May 13, 2007, 03:55:51 PM
Hey, where's that little fag, Ringo?  Ringo, you have no balls to answer this thread, so you get into statistics with TheWho - a sure sign you're not interested in substance.

Explain this thread, Ringo.  We've all been waiting for the employees' perspective.
Title: Re: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2007, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
This document is archived in the public record.

Exerpted verbatim from Document 57, Case 2:06-cv-00146-WCO, a sworn affadavit from Leonard Buccellato:

Quote
Dr. Leonard Buccellato, who upon being duly sworn, testifies as follows:

4.  "...Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues."

5.  "Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month."

6.  "Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent."

7.  "Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to...students."

8.  "Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA..."

9.  "HLA...will not likely survive two months..."


Signed, Dr. Leonard Buccellato
2 February 2007



Exerpted verbatim from a letter to HLA parents from Leonard Buccellato, dated 25 April, 2007:

Quote
"....We are not making plans to close the school...  

...a couple of misinformed individuals perpetrated the idea, and continue today to speculate without any benefit of a knowledgeable base-in-fact...  

We are not short staffed as a few would like you to believe...  

Young single staff in particular, become dissatisfied with the amount of social and living amenities offered within the area and make the decision to leave in favor of a city or urban area. Some of our staff come to us through the local military community, which are subject to duty transfers more now than ever and leave...  

Again, we are not short staffed...

It is school as usual..."


Obviously, one set of statements is true and one set is false.  

The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"

Parents, you must review the public record.  You don't have to believe anything you read here.  Go to the source.  Compare Buccellato's sworn affadavit to the court with the email he authored to you.  

Does it pass the smell test? Is this an honest broker?  Is this someone who should be entrusted with the care of your child?  If he would lie to you or to the court about serious matters like this, what else may have you been misled about?  Look into it.  Go to the source documents.  See for yourself.  Your child and family deserve your effort to find the truth hidden in the lies.


Does the insurance company know about any of these issues and the correspondences between Buccellato and the court and the parents?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Ursus on May 30, 2007, 08:26:11 AM
I think that the recent HLA fire has put an interesting spin on what is being discussed in this thread.  From my perspective, it really looks like Butt Butt Bucci is carefully hedging his bets.  You know that he has every intention of coming out on top, financially speaking.  It would be nice if he could save face too, but what the heck, nobody need know who he is on some island in the Caribbean with a million or so in the bank.

If the insurance money comes in before the next session at HLA begins, I would guess he is not going to stick around.  If the insurance money is delayed, well, he has to keep up the charade if he is ever going to get it.

HLA is not my particular shitpit, although I have been haphazardly following this forum for a couple of months now.  My own reign of horror was experienced further up the coast, quite a long time ago.  So you have every right to roundly boo me out of here for not knowing what the hell I am talking about, should you so wish.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on June 01, 2007, 09:18:07 AM
Hey, Function Junction, why do you steadfastly avoid this thread?  Why would Len lie to the court or to the parents?  We still need an answer for this...
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on June 03, 2007, 07:51:05 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Hey, Function Junction, why do you steadfastly avoid this thread?  Why would Len lie to the court or to the parents?  We still need an answer for this...


C'mon, Function Junction.  Instead of posing as all sorts of different people, just answer this one question.

Did Len lie to the court or to the parents?

People want to know the answer!
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2007, 10:16:24 AM
Function Junction will never answer this question because he'd have to admit the truth and that's something he'll never do.
Title: Re: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
This document is archived in the public record.

Exerpted verbatim from Document 57, Case 2:06-cv-00146-WCO, a sworn affadavit from Leonard Buccellato:

Quote
Dr. Leonard Buccellato, who upon being duly sworn, testifies as follows:

4.  "...Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues."

5.  "Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month."

6.  "Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent."

7.  "Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to...students."

8.  "Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA..."

9.  "HLA...will not likely survive two months..."


Signed, Dr. Leonard Buccellato
2 February 2007



Exerpted verbatim from a letter to HLA parents from Leonard Buccellato, dated 25 April, 2007:

Quote
"....We are not making plans to close the school...  

...a couple of misinformed individuals perpetrated the idea, and continue today to speculate without any benefit of a knowledgeable base-in-fact...  

We are not short staffed as a few would like you to believe...  

Young single staff in particular, become dissatisfied with the amount of social and living amenities offered within the area and make the decision to leave in favor of a city or urban area. Some of our staff come to us through the local military community, which are subject to duty transfers more now than ever and leave...  

Again, we are not short staffed...

It is school as usual..."


Obviously, one set of statements is true and one set is false.  

The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"

Parents, you must review the public record.  You don't have to believe anything you read here.  Go to the source.  Compare Buccellato's sworn affadavit to the court with the email he authored to you.  

Does it pass the smell test? Is this an honest broker?  Is this someone who should be entrusted with the care of your child?  If he would lie to you or to the court about serious matters like this, what else may have you been misled about?  Look into it.  Go to the source documents.  See for yourself.  Your child and family deserve your effort to find the truth hidden in the lies.

If you'd like copies of these original documents you can PM and I will provide them to you.



 HELLO ----------------------  TOMORROW IS AUGUST 1ST....THIS WAS 6
MONTHS AGO.  THEY ARE HIRING STAFF.  WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: TheWho on July 31, 2007, 08:16:14 PM
Quote
The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"


I have seen this posted before.

I think the piece the poster is overlooking is the time line.  In February HLA appeared to be in a downward trend , reducing staff and losing money each month.  The indication was is if the trend continued they would have to close.  Which is an obvious conclusion based on their present path.
By April the school had turned itself around by reducing expenses/staff, maybe secured outside financing or backing so there were no plans to close the doors.
There was almost a 3 month difference between the two updates.  It is far from perjury, conditions change over time.
 ::hatter::
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2007, 09:52:27 PM
Wrong again, dumbass. Bucci still claims he's broke and the place is in "imminent danger" of closing. That's why he's borrowing money from his brother to keep it going.

Bucci: You're a pathetic loser.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: TheWho on August 01, 2007, 09:21:49 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Wrong again, dumbass. Bucci still claims he's broke and the place is in "imminent danger" of closing. That's why he's borrowing money from his brother to keep it going.

Bucci: You're a pathetic loser.


Its not perjury  to say you are broke one day and doing fine the next.  

For example:

Monday you are broke and so is Bucci (both not happy, but you are able to chill)

Tuesday your mother gives you money (so you are not broke)

Wednesday you scored some weed (you are broke again, but happy and able to chill)

Thursday you borrow money from your Dad (so you are not broke)

Friday your parents wrote a check to HLA and the escort service. (they are both broke, they dont smoke weed)

Saturday Bucci is not broke (but not happy because he doesn’t smoke weed)

Sunday  Bucci is broke again because he paid his lawyers (His lawyers appear happy on the surface, but they don’t smoke weed)

Is there a moral to this story?


 ::hatter::
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2007, 09:25:30 AM
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth.  Len has been doing that for a while now.  He hasn't stopped.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on August 01, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Wrong again, dumbass. Bucci still claims he's broke and the place is in "imminent danger" of closing. That's why he's borrowing money from his brother to keep it going.

Bucci: You're a pathetic loser.

Its not perjury  to say you are broke one day and doing fine the next.  

For example:

Monday you are broke and so is Bucci (both not happy, but you are able to chill)

Tuesday your mother gives you money (so you are not broke)

Wednesday you scored some weed (you are broke again, but happy and able to chill)

Thursday you borrow money from your Dad (so you are not broke)

Friday your parents wrote a check to HLA and the escort service. (they are both broke, they dont smoke weed)

Saturday Bucci is not broke (but not happy because he doesn’t smoke weed)

Sunday  Bucci is broke again because he paid his lawyers (His lawyers appear happy on the surface, but they don’t smoke weed)

Is there a moral to this story?


 ::hatter::

Just so readers know "who" this guy is, he's this guy:

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=16007 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=16007)

And he says things like this:

Quote from: ""TheWho""
I hope the kids don't get too mad at us. Ha, ha, ha, I'm just having a bit of fun. The thing we all n33d to keep in mind is that these kids deserve what they get. So what if a couple of them died? The point is that I get my referal fees.


So, readers, let's not be under any false impressions.  TheWho is a troll looking for desperate parents to rope in for cash.  and he'll say anything, no matter how false, to get that to happen...
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: TheWho on August 01, 2007, 11:37:33 AM
Quote
So, readers, let's not be under any false impressions. TheWho is a troll looking for desperate parents to rope in for cash. and he'll say anything, no matter how false, to get that to happen...


It ticks me off when people misrepresent me like that.  You know,  people will get the wrong impression.  It so happens that I accept checks and credit cards and have been known to barter during the lean times.

 ::hatter::
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on August 01, 2007, 11:50:54 AM
See?  Same guy.  This loser doesn't know when to say when.

Feel free to browse the 300 page abortion he created as an enduring egoist monument to himself to get a firm grasp of the person "who" is trying to mislead you.  He really, genuinely is a scumbag.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote
The question remains, "Did Buccellato perjure himself to the court, or is he continuing to lie to parents of children at HLA?"

I have seen this posted before.

I think the piece the poster is overlooking is the time line.  In February HLA appeared to be in a downward trend , reducing staff and losing money each month.  The indication was is if the trend continued they would have to close.  Which is an obvious conclusion based on their present path.
By April the school had turned itself around by reducing expenses/staff, maybe secured outside financing or backing so there were no plans to close the doors.
There was almost a 3 month difference between the two updates.  It is far from perjury, conditions change over time.
 ::hatter::



NOT TRUE.
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
If the school is going bankrupt, then why is the school hiring teachers, counselors, etc for Fall?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2007, 11:46:05 PM
www.hiddenlakeacademy.com (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com)



re-vamped web-site
Title: re-vamped?
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 07:06:56 AM
It looks exactly the same as it did last month when I looked at it...what part is re-vamped?
Title: Re: re-vamped?
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2007, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: ""SH""
It looks exactly the same as it did last month when I looked at it...what part is re-vamped?



when was this re-done?
Title: Buccellato Committed Perjury or Lied to Parents?
Post by: Troll Control on August 10, 2007, 09:26:13 AM
Looks to me like the same cast of losers, only smaller.  Added one more uncertified teacher holding only a BA.  Looks like they lost quite a few more than they added.