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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Covergaard on March 12, 2007, 09:29:04 AM
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China runs program for just 48$ per day for people, who suffers from internet addiction.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005- ... tion_x.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-07-01-china-web-addiction_x.htm)
WWASP and Aspen: Go home, you are not competive!
Even a shock system similar to Judge Rotenberg Educational Center (http://www.nospank.net/jrc-2.htm (http://www.nospank.net/jrc-2.htm)) is included in the price.
When are they first children sent off in order to achieve education in an international environment?
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China has been shipping their kids off for decades to be educated internationally. Now its becoming a reverse trend of sorts. Korean parents ship their kids to Korean ran boarding schools in China to avoid having to pay the hideous cost for a Korean education.
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They are in the final phase of developing an on-line version for those kids who can?t travel to the clinics. They are going to try to introduce this at $0.25 per day and as they accumulate an installed base of 10,000 kids or more they plan to slowly increase the price enough to become competitive. They will also be introducing a Step Program and chat room to encourage peer to peer help, there will be one moderator per 15 kids. There will be incentives, for example if a child works the program consistently and averages more than 6 hours a day they can get a price break, discount coupons for KFC, origami paper compliments of new partnership with Zig Zag and Philip Morris. Special ergonomically designed chairs for the children have been donated by NATSAP to help prevent kids from developing early back pain.
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Zig Zag?? WTF?? Hempire should be their partner here. Let's not neglect the environment!
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China runs program for just 48$ per day for people, who suffers from internet addiction.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005- ... tion_x.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-07-01-china-web-addiction_x.htm)
WWASP and Aspen: Go home, you are not competive!
Even a shock system similar to Judge Rotenberg Educational Center (http://www.nospank.net/jrc-2.htm (http://www.nospank.net/jrc-2.htm)) is included in the price.
When are they first children sent off in order to achieve education in an international environment?
Chinese people only care about MONEY!
I am right now sitting in a Chinese "internet cafe".
They go on about how they are worried about their kids playing too much internet,but thats a load of crap.
This place Im in is just like all the others across China.
FILLED TO CAPACITY with idiots playing games.
Now consider that I am participating in this forum on an ordinary public computer.
These people,aged 14 to 30,have every opportunity to look at any kind of news UNBLOCKED (except ANY news text with the words "Tibet" or FauLonGong" will be blocked).
Its the rare person listening to music,chatting with a friend or watching a video.
You would think the authorities here would encourage,OR REQUIRE,these people occasionally learn something productive on computers,but they are only interested in the money they rake in.
Think of the most scummy disgusting public telephone receiver you have ever seen,then multiply that by 10,thats how greasy and slimy this computer is that I am using now.
They wont even lean over and spit in a waste basket,they just spit right on the floor.
Most of the letters are rubbed completely off the "W" "A" "S" "D" keys,because those are the only ones they need to play the games.
Dont believe anything you read about China trying to improve their situation.
Its about MONEY,and MONEY NOW!!!
TSW can describe the very comfortable clean internet cafe in Korea.
"Sir,would you like another drink,or perhaps a nice Nong Shim Cup-O-Noodle".(NongShim instant Udon is my favorite,in the Black and White styro bowl)
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Actually I think you are thinking more about the internet cafes in Japan. The ones here in Korea are dark little nasty holes that I refuse to go into unless my computer has completely exploded. Though.. I have to admit.. the internet cafe I used in Yantai China had a charm all of its own with its 100 degree farenheit heat.
Now the ones in Japan are piiiiiimp! Telling you.. cubicles with a chair that reclines into a bed. You can rent videos.. books.. games.. anything you want there. Full climate control.. Most of them have bans on smoking. This means you can sit in them and actually use the damn thing without having the insides of your lungs paved in a tar like substance from second hand smoke.
Obsession with money I believe is a universal condition, but seemingly all the more of focus to the Chinese given the fact they have gone so long with so very little of it.
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They are in the final phase of developing an on-line version for those kids who can?t travel to the clinics. They are going to try to introduce this at $0.25 per day and as they accumulate an installed base of 10,000 kids or more they plan to slowly increase the price enough to become competitive. They will also be introducing a Step Program and chat room to encourage peer to peer help, there will be one moderator per 15 kids. There will be incentives, for example if a child works the program consistently and averages more than 6 hours a day they can get a price break, discount coupons for KFC, origami paper compliments of new partnership with Zig Zag and Philip Morris. Special ergonomically designed chairs for the children have been donated by NATSAP to help prevent kids from developing early back pain.
"They are"?
"They will"?
THIS IS FUCKING CHINA WERE TALKING ABOUT!
You only know what you trowel up on the internet.
Where did you cut-n-paste that crap from,directly from the CCCP?
EVERYTHING the Chinese say is about "SAVING FACE".
They dont even expect the rest of the world to believe their crap!
They only say it so their citizens will hear it,not for us.
Example:
The Chinese go on about how they are fighting BIRD FLU,but every bus I ride not only has passengers carrying live chickens,but they pack boxes full of them in with the luggage.
In the market where I buy my groceries,they keep live chickens (and other live shitting/pissing/bleeding animals)on the floor,SHIT EVERYWHERE right next to fresh fruits and vegatables on the floor,and everything is wet.
Im not talking about some backwater village,they do this in every city.
The other day a woman came on the city bus,the one everybody rides around town, with a live chicken,tied up feet,and the chicken laying on her lap,and her daughter sitting on the floor of the bus,resting her head on her mother's lap using the live chicken as a pillow!
Maybe 10% of Chinese people "look like" you and I (civilized human beings),the other 90% being peasent farmer types,but of those 10%,only about 0.0009% behave like civilized human beings.
Its like dressing a monkey up in a man's clothing then expecting it to walk upright.
Ask TSW about Koreans,far more sophistocated than Chinese,but still uncivilized monkeys in human clothing.
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Actually I think you are thinking more about the internet cafes in Japan. The ones here in Korea are dark little nasty holes that I refuse to go into unless my computer has completely exploded. Though.. I have to admit.. the internet cafe I used in Yantai China had a charm all of its own with its 100 degree farenheit heat.
Now the ones in Japan are piiiiiimp! Telling you.. cubicles with a chair that reclines into a bed. You can rent videos.. books.. games.. anything you want there. Full climate control.. Most of them have bans on smoking. This means you can sit in them and actually use the damn thing without having the insides of your lungs paved in a tar like substance from second hand smoke.
Prices:
China $-0.25 per hour
Korea-(about)$1.50 per hour
Japan-$3.00+ per hour
Obsession with money I believe is a universal condition, but seemingly all the more of focus to the Chinese given the fact they have gone so long with so very little of it.
OH,they have money in China,its what they spend it on that worries me.
The Chinese government is only interested in the tax money they rake in.
They do not care what you do in your business as long as they collect the tax.
Do you remember the "hair shops" you saw in China,the ones with the red light inside?
These are prostitutes,right out in the open.
I have inside information,and you would shit your pants if you knew the REAL rate of AIDS in China.
Theres a real touchy feely poster in my hotel that basically says "Please dont avoid people (the prostitutes in this hotel) just because they have AIDS".
Its like those posters you see in Korea boasting about how they "love dogs".
I was carching a bus from Pusan to Seoul and a WELL DRESSED young woman wanted to get on the bus with her new puppy in a box.The bus driver refused and told her she had to put it under the bus,IN A CARDBOARD BOX,with the luggage.
She pouted a bit,in that special was Korean girls pout,then shoved the box under the bus.
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They have those hair shops/barbu shops all over Asia in one form or another. I didn't notice any in Japan, but then they have their signs for 20,000 yen for half hour girl shops right out on the kerb with the room salons. That was in Osaka, saw the same thing in Fukoka. I've heard even better paid pleasures of the flesh exist in Tokyo. Never been brave enough to go find out.
Here in Korea the rate of AIDS transmission is absurdly low. Why? Because according to the Koreans only foriegners from Nigeria have aids. Prolly some truth to that, but none the less the way those dirty buggers go a mongering away in Itaewon and other red light districts right along with the koreans it only makes a person wonder how true that is. That and the whole Korean businessman vacation to thailand to "play" golf.
Now China I found a delightful country. It is dirty.. backwards.. uncivilized. Bejing bored me right up until the point I was nearly mugged by two thieves on the street. After that it didn't take to long to figure out where to go to find a good time and it sure as shit wasn't anything to do with those lame assed Great Wall tours.
Yeah the average Chinese person is coming into more money then they have seen in a good long while. Yet that money is for alot of chinese a recent phenomenom. Most of the peasants are still off the farm by a generation or just having come from the farm to the city to find better paying work.
*** Hah... the Korean girl pout.. classic. My students give me that one all the time... "Teachah..... **pout** Game?"
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That and the whole Korean businessman vacation to thailand to "play" golf.
It involves balls and small holes doesn't it?
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That and the whole Korean businessman vacation to thailand to "play" golf.
It involves balls and small holes doesn't it?
lol
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They have those hair shops/barbu shops all over Asia in one form or another. I didn't notice any in Japan, but then they have their signs for 20,000 yen for half hour girl shops right out on the kerb with the room salons. That was in Osaka, saw the same thing in Fukoka. I've heard even better paid pleasures of the flesh exist in Tokyo. Never been brave enough to go find out.
Here in Korea the rate of AIDS transmission is absurdly low. Why? Because according to the Koreans only foriegners from Nigeria have aids. Prolly some truth to that, but none the less the way those dirty buggers go a mongering away in Itaewon and other red light districts right along with the koreans it only makes a person wonder how true that is. That and the whole Korean businessman vacation to thailand to "play" golf.
Now China I found a delightful country. It is dirty.. backwards.. uncivilized. Bejing bored me right up until the point I was nearly mugged by two thieves on the street. After that it didn't take to long to figure out where to go to find a good time and it sure as shit wasn't anything to do with those lame assed Great Wall tours.
Yeah the average Chinese person is coming into more money then they have seen in a good long while. Yet that money is for alot of chinese a recent phenomenom. Most of the peasants are still off the farm by a generation or just having come from the farm to the city to find better paying work.
*** Hah... the Korean girl pout.. classic. My students give me that one all the time... "Teachah..... **pout** Game?"
I live on the border with China and Laos.
Here there is a lot of AIDS.
Thailand is full of AIDS.
In this city,I know many familys that have AIDS.
The Chinese guy travels to Thailand for sex,catches AIDS,then brings it home to his wife.Very common and well known in this part of China.
What is little known is the AIDS in North China.
I frequently visit a city in ShanXi Province that I will not name here.
This is a weapons manufacturing/coal city,and is a very communist city,if you visit there you feel as if you are in a time warp,its the China of 30 years ago,but very orderly and clean.
There are always whispering about the sex industry there,lots of visiting businessmen there.You have dinner with your friends,go to a sauna,then a "karaoke".I asked my friend about this so he took me to have a look.
There are four or five of these place in this city,about 100 rooms each place.A sex supermarket .We went to one place,drove through the gate,and inside there were at least 50 taxis,each room with a big window and girls.I have never seen anything like this anywhere.This place was HUGE,and there are five of this kind of complex in this city.Mind boggling!
Some say there are 5000,000 AIDS case in ShanXi Province!
FOREIGN DEVILS!Recently China was bragging that they are taking action against problems like SARS,by screening "foreigners" before they enter China (actually its the other way round,now when you enter Korea coming from China they march you in front of a heat camera,and the ferry no longer arrives to GunSan or Pusan from China,all ferry must enter at InCheon).
China always blames the foreigners for bringing this stuff in to China and they can not accept that THEY bring these problems on themselves.
If the authorities told the truth to the citizens it would "hurt their feelings",its about SAVING FACE.
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You are pretty far south. The farthest south I went was Shanghai and decided the humidity was to damn much. Went north immediately upon arrival to the nearest Train station.
Yeah sounds like AIDS and china is the same story all over Asia. Saving some face to not make themselves look bad domestically and internationally.
Gonna be going back to China next year I think. Not sure, but I definitely will be going by ferry this time and taking my time touring the entire country.
Why anyone would go mongering in Thailand or Laos is beyond me. ...Jesus christ.. they might as well change the name of those countries to the united Aids republics.
Vile little holes. or many many many many vile little holes for that matter.
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You are pretty far south. The farthest south I went was Shanghai and decided the humidity was to damn much. Went north immediately upon arrival to the nearest Train station.
Yeah sounds like AIDS and china is the same story all over Asia. Saving some face to not make themselves look bad domestically and internationally.
Gonna be going back to China next year I think. Not sure, but I definitely will be going by ferry this time and taking my time touring the entire country.
Why anyone would go mongering in Thailand or Laos is beyond me. ...Jesus christ.. they might as well change the name of those countries to the united Aids republics.
Vile little holes. or many many many many vile little holes for that matter.
Keep an eye on our China Travel Thread (Facility Questions) and Ill tell you about some good places to see in China,without backpackers.
I know everything about everything about traveling in China.
Maybe we can hook up if I come to Korea in a couple of weeks.
I will ferry to InCheon,then Seoul to Pusan.
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You visiting or heading down to Busan for work?
Either way lemme know when you touch down in Incheon. I'd be happy to spring for a few rounds of Soju shots and gamtagang.
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You visiting or heading down to Busan for work?
Either way lemme know when you touch down in Incheon. I'd be happy to spring for a few rounds of Soju shots and gamtagang.
Naw,no work,I have Chinese friends in Pusan.
I like Korean food,but that SoJu tastes like watered down rubbing alcohol.
I live in China,but I sometimes visit Pusan,usually stay 2 weeks.
Ive been to Seoul/InCheon many times,but I only pass through,I really dont know where the CHEAP YeoinSuk is located in Seoul/InCheon.I have always wanted to see more of Korea,a small country easy and cheap transportation,the "poor man's" Japan.
I also need to visit KyuShu/ShiKoKu Japan,I have friends and FREE place to stay,but I never seem to have enough time.
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Just curious TSW,what is your age ,I assume between 35 or 40?
What kind of work are you doing in Korea?
Dont tell me "English Teacher"?
I would like to live in South Korea,its pleasent enoughand I have lots of Korean/Chinese friends there,but I could never teach English,Im not educated.I gots no book learning.
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Right then.. I won't be a cheap bastard and I'll find a bottle of something worth drinking. I think I saw a bottle of Aquavit at the market in Seoul. I'll try to run one down. Name your poison and I'll see what I can do.
Visiting Korea.. Hmmmm.. Well Start in Seoul... Visit the War Memorial.. maybe do a DMZ tour... I'm not a big fan of Seoul.. why I live in the Burbs.
If you want to party there is Sinchon, Hongdae, or Itaewon.
After that head down to Busan.. Hit Daegu for a night.. Get your lonely planet guide.. I'm not even sure what is in Daegu that is worth visiting.
Busan.. got the temples.. and of course they got the "Temple" down on Texas street. No doubt you've seen this before. I'd suggest getting out the lonely planet and going and visiting as many of the smaller Islands that you can make it to. Some of them are pretty much the last remaining isolated pockets of traditional Korean style living that you will be able to find. Well isolated as far as having a massage parlor and a pc bang on the island.
I'd make it a point to head up to Pohong on the East Coast.. Maybe try to make a visit to Ullengdo Island.. Spelling?... Supposed to be a sight to behold in the spring.. though not very spring feeling at the moment.
Other than that don't know what to tell you.
If you have a Dave's Account.. I'd suggest going over to that forum and asking some of the Long term expats.
Another forum I can suggest is expatkorea.com
I post on that one, and they have plenty of long term expats who no doubt will be able to provide much more detailed information as to where to go.
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Just curious TSW,what is your age ,I assume between 35 or 40?
What kind of work are you doing in Korea?
Dont tell me "English Teacher"?
I would like to live in South Korea,its pleasent enoughand I have lots of Korean/Chinese friends there,but I could never teach English,Im not educated.I gots no book learning.
31.. English Teacher.
I'm planning on doing a stint in China also. Maybe Taiwan.. not sure yet.. possibly Japan.. but lawds.. Expensive... Though the women are far hotter and far friendlier.
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Just curious TSW,what is your age ,I assume between 35 or 40?
What kind of work are you doing in Korea?
Dont tell me "English Teacher"?
I would like to live in South Korea,its pleasent enoughand I have lots of Korean/Chinese friends there,but I could never teach English,Im not educated.I gots no book learning.
31.. English Teacher.
I'm planning on doing a stint in China also. Maybe Taiwan.. not sure yet.. possibly Japan.. but lawds.. Expensive... Though the women are far hotter and far friendlier.
Yes,but in Taiwan you can actually make some real good money teaching English.
I live in Mainland China,and Ill tell you its better to just hang out and travel and make Chinese friends rather than trying to work here.
Chinese people really make good long lasting friends,unlike these transparent Koreans who never return a fucking email.
Koreans are all the same,just when you meet one who you think is "different",you scratch the surface and underneath,just another stupid fucking Korean.
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How much does weed cost in Korea?
What quantities is it sold in,unit size?
Whats the quality,the budget stuff?
How do you buy it on the street?Taxi drivers?Jiggy Jiggy Man?
Who is selling it on the street?
Where is the best place in Korea to find it growing wild?
I understand the weed laws in Korea.
In Japan it can be picked on Hokkiado in north Japan.
I can find it grownig everywhere in China,its low quality,but its better than nothing.
I dont drink,in Korea i get off on Choco-Pie and NongShim.
I want to smoke weed there,but I have no connection.
I enjoy eating NongShim at the convienience store noodle bar.
I live on Texas Street when I am in Korea,but that place makes me depressed,and I know its a poor representation of South Korea.
I think I need to get out to a rural place in South Korea,find a CHEAP yeoinsuk and meet the locals.
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Well.. I hear you can score weed in Itaewon. I personally don't know who to go see about that. Seems the one person I used to know got himself tossed on a plane back to Nigeria. I do know that the laws are absurd. Because of my visa I can be hauled at anytime on suspicion and urine tested. If THC shows up in the old cup o' pee I will be arrested, massively fined, and deported to my country of origin at my own expense. Should I be unable to pay I will be held in the South Korean Immigration lock up until the funds are made avaliable.
If you want to see rural Korea then go visit the Islands off the coast. Another way is to just start hitching rides on various buses and end up who the fuck knows where. Normally that is what I do on a weekend when I am bored off my knob and want something to do.
Taiwan is good money for teaching, but the salaries aren't rising with the cost of living. Here in Korea the starting wage is still shite, but you can negotiate better paying contracts for lower hours after you get your first year under your belt. I did that, but ended up getting fired from my second contract. They felt my image wasn't suitable for their school. Meaning my hearing aids pissed off some parents. This put me back to square one and I am now 7 months into my 3rd contract and doing quite well. Not sure if I am going to re-up my contract with my current school of move on. Depends on how much my boss makes it worth my while.
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and you think America is fascist.. fuck. what does it feel like traveling in a country where you are one piss test away from jail or getting kicked out? sounds like we need to launch a few more wars to bring these fuckers some freedoms!!!
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If you want to see rural Korea then go visit the Islands off the coast. Another way is to just start hitching rides on various buses and end up who the fuck knows where. Normally that is what I do on a weekend when I am bored off my knob and want something to do.
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OK,but what are the cheapest sleeping accomodations in these rural areas (not the islands)?
Is there CHEAP Yeoinsuk,$10,000WON or less?
How about Minbak under $10,000WON?
The bus hitching is what I plan to do.
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Well.. I hear you can score weed in Itaewon.
OK,but how much does it cost?
What quantities is it sold in (I dont want to buy less than 5 or 10 grams at a time)?
Are there different quality weed sold,or is it all the same?
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If you want to see rural Korea then go visit the Islands off the coast. Another way is to just start hitching rides on various buses and end up who the fuck knows where. Normally that is what I do on a weekend when I am bored off my knob and want something to do.
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OK,but what are the cheapest sleeping accomodations in these rural areas (not the islands)?
Is there CHEAP Yeoinsuk,$10,000WON or less?
How about Minbak under $10,000WON?
The bus hitching is what I plan to do.
No clue.. I've always stayed in Jimjilbangs, pc rooms, and love motels.
I think minbaks run around 20,000. Again.. No idea.. What you ought to do is go register on the www.expatkorea.com (http://www.expatkorea.com) forum. Ask them these questions. They will be able to give you specific answers.
As far as weed goes? Again.. No clue.. I'm not willing to risk my visa over getting high. I can get blind pissy drunk, pass out in public, sleep it off curled up in the gutter, get up, and go home without a word said. Yet the minute a joint passes with in a light year of me I could well have the entire Korean Army after me.
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and you think America is fascist.. fuck. what does it feel like traveling in a country where you are one piss test away from jail or getting kicked out? sounds like we need to launch a few more wars to bring these fuckers some freedoms!!!
Well for one thing I don't smoke weed in Korea. So it really doesn't apply to me now does it? I can willingly give up smoking weed for a lifestyle that keeps me in chips and dip relatively free of annoying crap. Sure I have to deal with the locals on a daily basis, but as my hearing is so fucked I can't even begin to comprehend a word they babble at me I just wander through the day not even giving a shit what they have to say.
Freedom is an illusion, but my illusion of freedom as a English Teacher in Korea is far more solid than the average American working stiff back in bumcrack USA.