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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: happyday7 on February 23, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
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It makes me very sad to say that there is no way that this ultra conservative judge will allow certification of this class action in my opinion...even though he needs to do so. :(
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It makes me very sad to say that there is no way that this ultra conservative judge will allow certification of this class action in my opinion...even though he needs to do so. :(
Well, don't be too glum. If he were going to reject it out-of-hand he would have done so right away. Even if he fails to certify, there will be an appeal. So hang in there and let the process play out.
Remember also that HLA is a hair's breadth away from being shuttered by ORS for operating an illegal childcaring facility, so regardless of the lawsuit, I suspect ORS will be shutting them down anyway.
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I wonder how much longer they will be able to operate financially.
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My best guess as of last fall was the first quarter this year - by the end of March.
I know enrollment has dropped sharply and they borrowed up to their eyeballs to continue operating as well as selling off properties for cash to operate.
I still say on or about 3-1-2007.
Out of curiosity, has anyone heard an update on the ORS case? Last I heard they had until Feb. 5 to file their application for a license as a Residential Childcare Facility (or cease and desist operations) which they apperently did. Any updates on this???
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
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You have been the most informative person on this board.
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Happyday7, might I ask what your affiliation with HLA is. Former student, former staff, etc. I am just curious.
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...
So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review. But, in the bigger picture, these are good things. They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.
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loosing a class action certification is a blessing in discuize. heres how.
with a class action it will limit who can sue later on in the future, every one has to join it or they are out of luck. and if the case is lost then all are out of luck..
with no class action there can be multipal lawsuits filed. and if one looses there are still 20 more to go.....
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This is one slowass judge. Maybe he's looking to make a point with regards to HLA's artificial "March 1 we close down" deadline?
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I am a parent of a child who went to this school and it was not a good experience at all. I love my child very much and it was the worst decision I have ever made. :(
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loosing a class action certification is a blessing in discuize. heres how.
with a class action it will limit who can sue later on in the future, every one has to join it or they are out of luck. and if the case is lost then all are out of luck..
with no class action there can be multipal lawsuits filed. and if one looses there are still 20 more to go.....
Sorry, but you are woefully ignorant of the laws regarding Class Action Lawsuits.
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I agree. If the class action lawsuit is not certified, it will be very expensive for these families to sue HLA individually.
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WERE YOU AT THE HEARING?
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...
So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review. But, in the bigger picture, these are good things. They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.
I haven?t followed much of this thread, read a very few testimonies from kids and have been away for most of the past year but it looks like you did a good thing getting them to file, be happy for that, for the kids. Getting them sued or closed, in my opinion means crap or worse, the kids will go someplace else or they will reopen someplace else (unlicensed).
If you did it for the right reasons, you should feel good, and good for you and my hat off to you????.
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...
So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review. But, in the bigger picture, these are good things. They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.
I haven?t followed much of this thread, read a very few testimonies from kids and have been away for most of the past year but it looks like you did a good thing getting them to file, be happy for that, for the kids. Getting them sued or closed, in my opinion means crap or worse, the kids will go someplace else or they will reopen someplace else (unlicensed).
If you did it for the right reasons, you should feel good, and good for you and my hat off to you????.
Can't you ever go away? Don't fuck up another forum!
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They did file their application by the deadline date. I know that much. I just wonder if they close, if current families can get any of their money back? It seems to just be a waiting game at this point.
Yeah, I knew they filed it. Before they did they went scrambling, retroactively checking references and backgrounds on their employees - something that obviously should have been done before they were hired, but I digress...
So, they did try to clean house and get ready for their review. But, in the bigger picture, these are good things. They're being forced to conform to the rules of the road and the kids will only benefit from it.
I haven?t followed much of this thread, read a very few testimonies from kids and have been away for most of the past year but it looks like you did a good thing getting them to file, be happy for that, for the kids. Getting them sued or closed, in my opinion means crap or worse, the kids will go someplace else or they will reopen someplace else (unlicensed).
If you did it for the right reasons, you should feel good, and good for you and my hat off to you????.
To "TheWho":
You have known about HLA and all the vile, illegal things that have gone on there. HLA HAS BEEN UNLICENSED SINCE 1994 FOR THE TYPE OF SERVICES THEY CLAIM TO PROVIDE - GET OUT FROM UNDER YOUR ROCK. YOU could have done something, but instead you decided to be a coward and keep defending them despite knowing the real facts.
Do us all a favor: Keep posting to this forum so you can demonstrate how many people (such as yourself) continue to deny the real situation, and pretend that places such as HLA are doing more good than harm. You are pathetic; I hope that every child, parent, friend, and family members harmed by these facilties haunt you.
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Didn?t mean to rile everyone up, but just stopped in to say nice job, didn?t realize HLA filed for a license.
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It's March 1. You've made your point, your honor.
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The first court date for the petition to certify this class action was on 01-31-07. The 2 month time period would not be up until 03-31-07. At least that is the way I read it. Does anyone else agree with that? :question:
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I would love to know the total # of enrolled students at HLA right now.
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The first court date for the petition to certify this class action was on 01-31-07. The 2 month time period would not be up until 03-31-07. At least that is the way I read it. Does anyone else agree with that? :question:
WERE YOU AT THE HEARING?
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The first court date for the petition to certify this class action was on 01-31-07. The 2 month time period would not be up until 03-31-07. At least that is the way I read it. Does anyone else agree with that? :question:
It may not be accurate. Other motions have been filed by both parties. I know plaintiffs are looking for discovery to show cause for certification. HLA is, I assume, fighting the discovery.
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I would love to know the total # of enrolled students at HLA right now.
From Buchi's affadavit:
"As set forth in more detail in my declaration of December 6, 2006, HLA has suffered significant loss of revenue due to decreased enrollment. Enrollment has dropped from over 150 students in September to 102 as of this date. Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues.
"Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month.
"Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p= ... 66a#248802 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=248802&sid=366a78b7254820e57ddf1dcdf845566a#248802)
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There were like 102 kids at HLA in December 2006, but I am sure there are alot less kids there now as of 03/01/07.
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The first court date for the petition to certify this class action was on 01-31-07. The 2 month time period would not be up until 03-31-07. At least that is the way I read it. Does anyone else agree with that? :question:
It may not be accurate. Other motions have been filed by both parties. I know plaintiffs are looking for discovery to show cause for certification. HLA is, I assume, fighting the discovery.
WERE YOU AT THE HEARING?
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No, I was not at the hearing, however I have kept in touch and read Bucci's statement that he filed to the court on 02-01-07 that said something to the effect that HLA might not last the 2 months or so that the lawyers have requested for further discovery of their case. 2 months from the 01-31-07 hearing would be the 03-31-07 date that I was thinking of. I am just forming an opinion based on this information. Who knows what will happen.