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General Interest => Let It Bleed => Topic started by: starry-eyed pirate on February 16, 2007, 02:40:11 AM

Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on February 16, 2007, 02:40:11 AM: They just don't make 'em like this anymore. Best t.v. show of all time. Ever !!! The Michael Jordan of t.v. shows!!!
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Antigen on February 16, 2007, 05:36:35 AM: I used to play the theme song on the piano. Looking for a good rip now cause I need to hear it. Thanks.

In early mourning fog I see
Visions of the things to be
The ___ that are withheld from me
I realize and I can see
[flourish of trumpets, jarringly triumphant and mocking positive for the content (like John Hookers "The Hook)]

That suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please

....
There's more I can't recall... But I can remember how it sounded on that upright piano w/ a rinky-tink in the Florida room in my house in Pompano and why I wanted to play it. I was stone cold in love with Captn Pierce and the actor and playwrite who invented him.

Laughed out loud when I heard of the fucking sheer audacity and stupidity of Straight staff handlers for inviting a cast member, forget the name, to try and get an endorsement! Fuck! Overplayed their hand, just a tad? Ok.

But I love this song, loved it then. Not just cause it drove my mother nuts to hear it instead of the "praise the lord" gospel she thought she was paying to have me learn, but also because of what it meant to me personally.

MASH saved my life by making light of all the good and valid reasons why a precocious 12yo would want to do herself in and demonstrating that a determined individual could turn just such a tragic scape into big bucks at the box office at best or, at the least, solidarity for some future hopeless 12yo.

Thanks.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ganja on February 16, 2007, 07:47:20 AM: Quote from: ""Cassandra""
In early mourning fog I see
Visions of the things to be
The ___ that are withheld from me
I realize and I can see
[flourish of trumpets, jarringly triumphant and mocking positive for the content (like John Hookers "The Hook)]

That suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please

So did you put these words to the MASH theme song?
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Antigen on February 16, 2007, 03:15:48 PM: Nope, that's the way the writer wrote it.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: try another castle on February 16, 2007, 03:23:02 PM: You know how people have "comfort food"?

M*A*S*H is my "comfort show". I can watch it over and over and over again, even if I have seen each episode a million times. Altman's movie is brilliant as well. I've never read the book, however. The guy wrote sequels, where Hawk and Trapper are in private practice in the states, and become very conservative.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Antigen on February 16, 2007, 04:16:18 PM: Ahhhhhh, now that's better. There's a version out there somewhere w/ the vocal track laid over the trumpet instrumental.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on February 16, 2007, 04:59:52 PM: I used to play it on my sax, back in the days before $tr8.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 20, 2007, 04:41:10 PM: The movie kicks the shit outta the TV show, but that's usually how it goes. Alan Wussbag Alda can't hold a candle to Donald Sutherland.

The best use of TV ever, was the Patrick McGoohan-produced and -starred-in show, "The Prisoner". TV has never been better before or since. If you watch all the episodes (I think there are 13 or 14, depending on if you count the episode "Living In Harmony", the one that was banned from being broadcast in the USA, which I do), IN ORDER, and don't get it, there is no hope for you. It is the ultimate end-all and be-all of Television. Hell, humanity, (and all life on this planet, for that matter), evolved solely for the purpose of creating "The Prisoner" (and a few of the original "Star Trek" episodes, but that's another rant).
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 21, 2007, 04:46:56 PM: Also, Sally Kellerman was way hotter than Loretta Swit.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on February 21, 2007, 09:52:15 PM: I've never seen the show of which you speak. This "Prisoner".

I like that show, M*A*S*H though.

I can even hear the song playin now. Surprisin me from my computer somehow...

Anyway.

Pirate out.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: try another castle on February 21, 2007, 10:07:32 PM: Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
I've never seen the show of which you speak. This "Prisoner".

I like that show, M*A*S*H though.

I can even hear the song playin now. Surprisin me from my computer somehow...

Anyway.

Pirate out.

Oooh, pirate. You MUST see the Prisoner. The whole series is out on DVD now. I myself haven't had a chance to see all of the episodes, but it's amazing.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 22, 2007, 01:24:16 AM: Yep, The Prisoner is "must see TV".

Here's a wiki entry on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner)
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ganja on February 22, 2007, 01:42:25 AM: It's a kind of creepy Carpenter-like tune there, Cass... Cool.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ursus on February 22, 2007, 03:12:08 PM: Okay this first version (below) had my 6yo rocking with his fruit salad splattering the walls...

w/ Star&Stripes in the background:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-g0aBYVCgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-g0aBYVCgE)

w/ Hammer&Sickle in the background:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5jgjeAl5Cw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5jgjeAl5Cw)

initially more hesitant, poignant version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp6CVG7DYIg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp6CVG7DYIg)
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ursus on February 22, 2007, 03:25:20 PM: I neglected to mention that I tend to like any and all takes on 'Suicide Is Painless"... they being just different versions of the same message... I still watch M*A*S*H reruns on the telly in the wee hours of the morning, when I have insomnia, which is pretty much all the time of late...

But I do especially like the bittersweet contrast of the audioclip from Ginger. Could anyone more technically savvy than myself (which isn't saying much) inform as to how I might cut-and-paste the clip for posterity? thnx!
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Froderik on February 22, 2007, 03:35:34 PM: Sure, right-click on this and download it:

http://fornits.com/Sounds/nickdrake-Sui ... inless.mp3 (http://fornits.com/Sounds/nickdrake-Suicideispainless.mp3)
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 22, 2007, 03:44:11 PM: Quote from: ""Ursus""

But I do especially like the bittersweet contrast of the audioclip from Ginger. Could anyone more technically savvy than myself (which isn't saying much) inform as to how I might cut-and-paste the clip for posterity? thnx!

The clip Ginger posted is from the movie, and yes, it is much more haunting than the campy-sounding version that was used for the TV show (sans lyrics, CBS didn't want to use them because they may have been taken as encouraging suicide.) The song is from one of the best scenes in the movie, btw.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Froderik on February 22, 2007, 03:53:39 PM: So that's Nick Drake on guitar..?

(In Ginger's mp3, I mean.)
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 22, 2007, 04:05:42 PM: Quote from: ""El Niño""
So that's Nick Drake on guitar..?

(In Ginger's mp3, I mean.)

I have no idea, but I think I would have heardx that before if it were. I'll check out the credits on the movie and get back to you.
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Post by: Ursus on February 22, 2007, 04:24:03 PM: Yeah, I've been trying to figure out the connection myself. I've been a Nick Drake fan since about 1976...
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: RTP2003 on February 22, 2007, 04:29:05 PM: Quote from: ""Ursus""
Yeah, I've been trying to figure out the connection myself. I've been a Nick Drake fan since about 1976...

Wow. I had never heard of him until the 90s, when Sebadoh covered "Pink Moon". Then a couple of years later the Nick Drake version was used in a VW commercial. What a beautiful, tragic figure........
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Froderik on February 22, 2007, 04:35:20 PM: I've only been into him for like 5 years. I've heard a lot of his stuff, though.

The album Pink Moon is a classic.

He could play an acoustic!

http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/NDlyrics.html (http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/NDlyrics.html)
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ursus on February 22, 2007, 04:53:23 PM: Some interesting M*A*S*H trivia. I found it especially interesting that Robert Alman's son, Mike, wrote the lyrics (age 14 at the time)...

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0066026/trivia (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0066026/trivia)

And re. long awareness of Nick Drake: let's just say I am not so young... but really, I had some excellent tutelage from a local record store owner at the time, not to mention that I made a mean batch of brownies... ahem.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Oz girl on February 24, 2007, 02:24:35 AM: I have just stumbled across this thread. This song brings back some memories for me. I played the piano and drums very poorly in a terrible sometime adolescent rock band. The Manic St Preachers had released this & we used to play a shithouse cover of it.
In one of the very few live pub gigs we got I managed to get busted and told off for buying liquor underage by an undercover young cop who I had been trying to flirt with. Sneaky Bastard! It was right after we played this song. I am not sure to this day if he knew i was underage because my fake ID picture had me wearing my school uniform or if it was because i was so totally lame. possibly a little from both columns.
Title: M*A*S*H
Post by: Ursus on February 24, 2007, 03:00:46 AM: I love this song. And I love to hear of people's memories associated with it... I'm watching M*A*S*H right now, as I write...

BTW, spelling correction of previous post: Mike Altman (my fingers skipped the "t").