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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: psy on February 11, 2007, 02:57:25 AM

Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 11, 2007, 02:57:25 AM
so here it is.  sorry for the delay.   this is version .01

It's 3 AM and i couldn't think of any better text to put to the images...
so.  suggestions welcome

Link to the wallpaper here (http://http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/howmany.jpg)
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Troll Control on February 11, 2007, 07:11:01 AM
I thought it was very good.  Italics text seems a bit too small though.  Other than that, nicely done, Psy.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2007, 10:59:26 AM
I've always thought the screen-full-of-dead-kids thing to be a little cliche, but it should be effective here.

Slap some website URLs on that thing.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2007, 11:01:03 AM
How did you get so many pictures of the kids who were killed in programs, are those the real kids? If so, that's some damn good research. I see TSW point too, about using dead kids. I guess if a parent were upset you could take it down. I think it's very well done. Depressing as hell, but well done.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: exhausted on February 11, 2007, 03:06:13 PM
Looks good Psy

I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but seeing their faces makes them all the more a reality, It saddened me. Any one of them, could be any one of our own chilren  :(
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 12, 2007, 03:35:33 AM
Quote from: ""exhausted""
Looks good Psy

I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but seeing their faces makes them all the more a reality, It saddened me. Any one of them, could be any one of our own chilren  :(


Thankfullly, your children will never join their ranks...

To answer another question:  No, it was not difficult at all to find photos of these kids.  Cafety has a long list, and one of their links has a comprehensive database of deaths

So when anne says "just one death on certain part of a road that is driven on by a billion people without event".. it's just a wee bit off.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2007, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""exhausted""
Looks good Psy

I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but seeing their faces makes them all the more a reality, It saddened me. Any one of them, could be any one of our own chilren  :(

Thankfullly, your children will never join their ranks...

To answer another question:  No, it was not difficult at all to find photos of these kids.  Cafety has a long list, and one of their links has a comprehensive database of deaths

So when anne says "just one death on certain part of a road that is driven on by a billion people without event".. it's just a wee bit off.
Actually Psy to be fair it was me who said "just one death on certain part of a road that is driven on by a billion people without event" I was getting at the fact that it doesn't make it okay that a billion ppl can use the road without killing someone if only one death comes out of it, okay it is a safer road than the one where 1 person survives as opposed to a billion dying, but that one is one too many and shouldn't be written off as collatoral damage.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2007, 09:26:59 AM
:oops: that was me

Exhausted - too lazy to log in  :D
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: TheWho on February 12, 2007, 03:42:48 PM
Nice work Psy,
Just some thoughts
I think one death is too many, but the missing piece is how many of these kids could have been saved if they sought alternative treatment or no treatment at all?  How many more kids would be dead today if they had not received the help of these places?  Do the number of children saved by Wilderness, emotional growth schools and RTC outweigh the ones they can?t reach?  If we feel yes/no?.how do we know?  How is it measurable?
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2007, 03:49:50 PM
::troll::
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Troll Control on February 12, 2007, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Nice work Psy,
Just some thoughts
I think one death is too many, but the missing piece is how many of these kids could have been saved if they sought alternative treatment or no treatment at all?  How many more kids would be dead today if they had not received the help of these places?  Do the number of children saved by Wilderness, emotional growth schools and RTC outweigh the ones they can?t reach?  If we feel yes/no?.how do we know?  How is it measurable?


Who, are you angry and upset?  You must be.  Otherwise you wouldn't have come over here from your thread to question Psy's data.  RIGHT?  Well, RIGHT???
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 12, 2007, 03:56:49 PM
::troll::
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: TheWho on February 12, 2007, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Nice work Psy,
Just some thoughts
I think one death is too many, but the missing piece is how many of these kids could have been saved if they sought alternative treatment or no treatment at all?  How many more kids would be dead today if they had not received the help of these places?  Do the number of children saved by Wilderness, emotional growth schools and RTC outweigh the ones they can?t reach?  If we feel yes/no?.how do we know?  How is it measurable?

Who, are you angry and upset?  You must be.  Otherwise you wouldn't have come over here from your thread to question Psy's data.  RIGHT?  Well, RIGHT???



Ha,Ha, wow you are pissed, DJ, calm down...re-boot and start again
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2007, 03:58:02 PM
Oh for the love of.. DO NOT LET THE FUCKING TROLL DERAIL THIS THREAD!

Psy! Good work, but you really ought to get some websites on the left side of that wallpaper, with the same font as the rest of the text.

Start with www.helpatanycost.com (http://www.helpatanycost.com) , then www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org) , then finally Fornits. That's the order I think would have the most impact.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 12, 2007, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
Oh for the love of.. DO NOT LET THE FUCKING TROLL DERAIL THIS THREAD!

Psy! Good work, but you really ought to get some websites on the left side of that wallpaper, with the same font as the rest of the text.

Start with www.helpatanycost.com (http://www.helpatanycost.com) , then www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org) , then finally Fornits. That's the order I think would have the most impact.


Finally.  a suggestion.  ok.  people ... this is a critique.   if you don't have anything to contribute in terms of content or design, kindly fuck off  (THIS MEANS YOU "THE WHO")
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 12, 2007, 04:11:20 PM
updated (http://http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/howmany.jpg)

now includes list of urls
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2007, 04:15:55 PM
For those of us who don't use Macs (aka the rest of us), that text is almost guaranteed to get obfuscated by the taskbar as it is now.

Also make your next version in varying sizes for various desktops.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: psy on February 12, 2007, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
For those of us who don't use Macs (aka the rest of us), that text is almost guaranteed to get obfuscated by the taskbar as it is now.
DOH! :oops:
Quote
Also make your next version in varying sizes for various desktops.

Sure.  i was going to do the resizing and stuff last so i'm waiting for any  more suggestions to come in before i do that.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: BuzzKill on February 12, 2007, 07:24:22 PM
I like it. I think it makes a powerful statement. I don't know the first thing about what your doing so I can't suggest much - but I do like what I see.
Title: So I promised milk i'd make wallpaper
Post by: Troll Control on February 13, 2007, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Nice work Psy,
Just some thoughts
I think one death is too many, but the missing piece is how many of these kids could have been saved if they sought alternative treatment or no treatment at all?  How many more kids would be dead today if they had not received the help of these places?  Do the number of children saved by Wilderness, emotional growth schools and RTC outweigh the ones they can?t reach?  If we feel yes/no?.how do we know?  How is it measurable?

Who, are you angry and upset?  You must be.  Otherwise you wouldn't have come over here from your thread to question Psy's data.  RIGHT?  Well, RIGHT???


Ha,Ha, wow you are pissed, DJ, calm down...re-boot and start again


Just one more example of TheWho's imploded logic where he vectors in and scores ground zero hits on himself - over and over again.

Who, weren't you just saying in another thread that because someone posts in "someone else's thread" it shows they are "angry" and "upset"?  Just one more example of TheWho ignoring his own statements when they apply to him.

TheWho is a wittle baby ::crybaby::  in a gwownup's body.  Seriously, Who, you are the most childlike alleged adult I've ever come into contact with.  You really need some help...