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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 10, 2007, 10:40:24 PM
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For a second I thought that said, WTF are you doing to KISS some Programmie ASS?
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See the sig...
Website... (see the sig) Lots of research on CEDU, Synanon, Lifespring.... California law, the food pyramid... condensed
Interviewing Program survivors posted a 10 page im interview on fornits (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=234653#234653)...
Gathered another survivor story, put it on the website (http://http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/testimonials.html)... Interviewed dad....
misc crap
convinced 3 parents not to send kids to programs... (1 is public)
got thrown off St for no reason (well maybe the above had something to do with it)
current shit on agenda
School... 6 courses.
Trying to get other survivors to talk... it's like pulling teeth... most just want to move on... don't want to think about the past. some have blocked a lot of it out...
a project i can't talk about... but will become public at some point..
thinking of ideas for an animation about program...
chatting with people
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How about a shirts vs. skins ice hockey match?
programmies are the skins.
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My good awesome Warrior against Evil! Psy!
Can you find out if they have a cell phone number for Jayne? I want to arrange a little text messaging campaign for the good lady.
Oh. I have her cell number. It's actually an 800 number. Which i love... Will i post it here? No. She'd never talk to me again and i like to keep a line of communication open... It's handy to be able to ask "well how do you respond to XYZ allegation?"...
Also have you considered writing letters to the editors? I've lost sleep thinking about those run aways drifting around Redlands.
I need to write a letter to a journalist who gives a shit... complete with an informational packet... the website was a good start.
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How about a shirts vs. skins ice hockey match?
programmies are the skins.
Try Another castle, I've a favor to ask of you.
Are you bold enough for it? Or a sheep amongst the wolves?
Which is it good sir/ma'am?
It's sir, and I'd totally do it. I'd suck at it, because I've never been much of a sports guy, and haven't been on ice skates in ages, but I'd still do it. I WANT A STICK!
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They are pretty white trash type cops in Redlands. Got popped by a couple a few years back, kinda a shitty area, head west youngins. Lots of interesting shit going on at the beaches.
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How about a shirts vs. skins ice hockey match?
programmies are the skins.
Try Another castle, I've a favor to ask of you.
Are you bold enough for it? Or a sheep amongst the wolves?
Which is it good sir/ma'am?
It's sir, and I'd totally do it. I'd suck at it, because I've never been much of a sports guy, and haven't been on ice skates in ages, but I'd still do it. I WANT A STICK!
My request of you, and its a request we don't do the program demand or else thing here on fornits, is for you to compile some sort of image based video thingie comparing programs to gulags.
Would this trouble you greatly?
Has potential. The issue is reference footage. I'd need to find some fast, because this would be my chosen project for my editing class. (Since I don't have time to do a separate piece in addition to my editing class project.) Any suggestions on resources for this? Since I'm Mr. Dial up, I don't torrent. Stills is acceptable, too, but there is also the copyright issue for any footage. Not saying I won't do it, I'm just thinking out loud here regarding logistics.
Testimony is also good, but don't know anyone in the area I can contact.
So, as of now, reference, priority one.
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I am in law school to become a lawyer so I can spend my time suing programs for the hell of it. I am also in martial arts classes so if I come across a programmie in real life I will be prepare. Besides that, I have been instrumental in an investigation that netted a dozen arrests, two different programs shut down and twelve kittens being saved. They called me a hero, but I just think I am a regular country girl. Give me some white bread and bologna and I'm happy, I tell ya what.
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I was sittin' at home sippin' on my comfort when a man named John Walsh starting speaking to me as if a voice from heaven above. I called him and told him about some child abuse going on I knew about at a program and then the FDOCP (Federal Dept of Children Protection) swept in with their helicopters and guns and freed the children from their unnecessary and unlawful bondage. They arrested all the staff, and found out the director was abusing kittens in his office. The kittens were also freed, and have been adopted to a loving home. Thank God for John Walsh and the FDOCP. That man really cares about kids.
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How about a shirts vs. skins ice hockey match?
programmies are the skins.
Try Another castle, I've a favor to ask of you.
Are you bold enough for it? Or a sheep amongst the wolves?
Which is it good sir/ma'am?
It's sir, and I'd totally do it. I'd suck at it, because I've never been much of a sports guy, and haven't been on ice skates in ages, but I'd still do it. I WANT A STICK!
My request of you, and its a request we don't do the program demand or else thing here on fornits, is for you to compile some sort of image based video thingie comparing programs to gulags.
Would this trouble you greatly?
Has potential. The issue is reference footage. I'd need to find some fast, because this would be my chosen project for my editing class. (Since I don't have time to do a separate piece in addition to my editing class project.) Any suggestions on resources for this? Since I'm Mr. Dial up, I don't torrent. Stills is acceptable, too, but there is also the copyright issue for any footage. Not saying I won't do it, I'm just thinking out loud here regarding logistics.
Testimony is also good, but don't know anyone in the area I can contact.
So, as of now, reference, priority one.
Footage of Randall Hinton and Stalin standing side by side. You up to that level of digital manipulation?
Also stills showing Aushwitz and Tranquility bay. Do a memorial spoof showing Hitler saluting Ken Kay and crowd for their ongoing work to purify the Aryan race or something of that sort.
That is kind of insulting to Stalin and Hitler.
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Its too cliche.
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TSW, what do you think would happen if a group of program survivors just walked onto a program grounds and sat down and did a sit in protest. What do you think would happen? Theyd call the cops, would that get the press out there. Is this a totally stupid direction, or how do you think the staff would have reacted to that kind of protest. It would be great to videotape something like that and put it on google video. Probably get a trespassing charge or something at least and maybe roughted up by the friendly piggies... :-?
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- I'm still the guy who fixed the fucking spam problem around here (plus a whole lot of other techie shit)
- some shoulder-tapping on answers.yahoo.com
- some kid-warning (I'm not saying where, I'll never link to kids' forums from here)
- Massive English editing of Covergaard's Wikipedia shit, other Wikipedia stuff
- [Deleted]
- Helped unleash some guy to whoop some ass on the Judge Rotenberg Center
- [I can't discuss this]
- A certain survivor has honestly thanked ME for getting him through the last months of a certain dying program, I'm not quite sure why
Why lie? It ain't impressive. I've been trying to piss off most of you assholes (the ones with, y'know, testimony) into getting something done, with limited success. Call me whatever names you like, I'll just read it and chuckle. Props to anyone who's getting kids out. Extra props to people getting the places closed.down. Major, serious props go to the people who get these places shut down before they open and the local communities inoculated against having another one opened.
You know what, folks? Pretend this is a game. Pretend getting kids out is 1 point, shutting a whole place down is 100 points plus one point per kid, and preventing a place from ever opening is a whopping 10 points per bed. Pretend I'm giving out prizes like some kind of fucking game-show host. Welcome to Press Your Fucking Luck.
I'll be back. I have a young white pony to jump on.
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It's a bit too ham-handed TSW. I was thinking more along the lines of methods of and conditions under incarceration. Stress-poses, malnutrition, indoctrination. The similarities between the two. However, resources for reference footage for both of those will be hard. And concentration camp stuff is just out. Whether it's accurate or not, people will dismiss it outright the minute they see it.
Yeah, what that other guy said, too cliche.
I'm wondering if the comparison aspect is really necessary. Show what goes on, and people will draw their own comparisons.
Still, the issue is reference footage.
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Well, I've spent the past three hours compiling links for the good people in Idaho City, Idaho who are trying to keep Alamar Ranch out of their backyard.
Since the thread has slid down to the 11th topic, guess no one else thought it was a worthy cause.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20630 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20630)
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- http://www.askquestions.org/articles/teens and all the assorted snowballing/dovetailing from that.
- "Damn Answers" thread
- First one here I can remember banned from ST
- Helped deprogram Perrigaud
- Helped get about half a dozen kids out of programs by talking to parents in pm's
- Helped to counter programmite bullshit and assorted argumentative fallacies, until I gave up on TheWho
- Helped police some wikipedia articles, Milk's taking care of it now
- Made Karen go /cry for a little while after I got pissed and tried to guilt trip her :em:
- Sat on Sue-Sue's shit list for quite a while, though that's more of an honor than an accomplishment
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-providing real answers/advice for "struggling parents" to keep kids out of sadists' hands
-debunking programmie logical fallacies (labor of love)
-organizing isolated families who feel they have no recourse into program-shuttering juggernauts
-hours and hours of telephone support and advice for parents and kids alike
-exposing the deep fraud of program umbrella groups
-scoring heavy ground-zero hits on one very unlucky program over and over again
-ramping up to cut off the head of NATSAP
-fending off threats of violence in late night intimidation calls to my home with statements like "do you know how big the hole in a .45 looks while it's leveled on your face? come and see!"
-subverting programs by recruiting active employees to datamine and document farm
-networking, networking, networking
-letters to congress, regulating agencies, A.G's and governors
-deprogrmming parents one painstaking case at a time
-educating readers with facts about mental health care
-providing damaging information about program lawsuits and arrests to strugglingteens and shaming them into linking the stories on their 'breaking news' section
-getting banned from st for refusing to comply with censorship/bs/nonsense
-taking no shit from anyone, ever
-outing some of the most prolific pro-program trolls of all time
-dropping dimes to oversight agencies by the roll
-talking common sense plain talk with references
-rolling deep with my program-closing crew of 5
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Nothing that worked.
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Is it really about individuals programmies? Would you defeat the catholic church by burning down individual churches and beating up individual priests?
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I'd have to say that most of what I was talking about above applies to both Deborah and RobertBruce also. We're talking endless hours of strategizing, conferencing and making calls/writing letters to try to spur action from generally slumbering oversight agencies, plus lots of research and documentation.
I think the most important things we've all learned are never to take "I can't help you" as an answer and never to give up. These bureaucracies are huge ships that take a long time and a lot of effort to turn around. They do turn, though.
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What I think we need more than anything is some friggin EXPOSURE already.
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-taking no shit from anyone, ever
::unhappy:: ::fuckoff:: ::both:: ::kma:: ::bwahaha:: ::hehehmm:: ::bwahaha2:: ::rocker::
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Is it really about individuals programmies?
Not ideally, but perhaps ultimately; of course it would be piecemeal.
It wouldn't be the ideal solution, but better than nothing..
A gradual chipping away at their power structure through random acts of terrorism...
Fear tactics.. fighting fire with fire.... :skull:
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Today what I am going to do to kick some programmie ass is decide to make an ed con's life a living hell for the next week.
TSW, are you going after Lon? That would be cool.
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You're joking, right?
Woodbury.
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Am currently working on the logistics re: the video. Was about to post about it.
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We have plans.
Nasty wittel cultistses