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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 04, 2007, 02:23:04 AM
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Anyone recall the medias coverage of the pakistani CIA operative who was captured in 2004?
His claims that Al-Qeada planned to smuggle nuk-u-ler and or radio weapons components into the US from Mexico didnt last long as front page news.
I am former US Army. My status in the Arny allowed me to brush elbows with others who had access to high level security clearance, and privy intel.
After this Pakistani CIA operative was flown to the US, he claimed that Al-Qeadas latest objective is to build and position 12 nuke/radio bombs throughout the US at key targets and detonate them simultaneously.
The newest rumor a few moths ago in this circle of people was a little more frightening.
This CIA operative has been a wealth of info to the military.
His latest activity has been to watch endless hours of video tape from Mexicos most active border crossing locations.
To date he has identified exactly 12 Al-Qeada members entering the US via Mexico.
Each of them with backpacks that went unchecked.
12 People identified?
12 Detonation points in the US?
Do not be mislead by the fact that a back pack is small considering components used to build a bomb.
With todays technology, and the availability of less vital materials for bomb making her in the US, a back pack can carry the vital components of a bomb equal to, or more powerful than that used in Hiroshima.
Some food for thought.
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Woo hoo! ***throws hands up in air*** We're all gonna die! :rofl:
Unless you live in the midwest or a red state, where all of the anti-terrorist funding is going.
Time to move to Ohio!
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Im sure theyd set of 100 simeltaneous nukes if they could or had the capability. hopefully its a little more difficult than that to build a nuclear weapon let alone 50.. besides if it were that easy musllim fanatic wouldnt be the only ones to be concnerned with. remembere the doomsday cult who set off biological weapons in tokyo?
if it did happen i would hate to see what the blacklash against muslims would be.. probably nuking the entire middle east along with concentration camps here and all that good stuff... who wants a ww3?
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"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure."
Helen Keller
"I do not want the peace which passeth understanding, I want the understanding which bringeth peace."
Helen Keller
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I also heard the rumor that Angelina is afriad shes going to lose Brad back to Jen soon....what the hell is everyone gonna do then?
I agree with Cassandra, safety is an illusion...probably one of the biggest illusions we create for ourselves. You could move to Montana, only to step out your front door, slip on a rock and break your neck. I dont wish the death of a thousand suns on anyone, thats for certain....but people die horrible deaths every single day, and I am in no way entitled to any greater fate as a human being than they are. I mean, thousand are slaughtered in third world countries over civil strife every year....wheres the fear for them? The outrage? Its not something that COULD happen brother....it already IS happenening, and just because it isnt happnening to us, makes it no less real or meaningful.
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Game Over: Thirty-Six Sure-Fire Signs That Your Empire Is Crumbling
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0202-26.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0202-26.htm)
by David Michael Green
Published on Friday, February 2, 2007 by CommonDreams.org
Sunday, February 04, 2007
So. You've built yourself an empire, eh?
Well, bully for you!
What's next, you ask? Well, now you've got to do what everybody does
when they have an empire, of course. You've got to worry about it falling apart, mate!
But how to tell for sure? Let me see if I can be helpful. Here are some rules of thumb to keep in mind, thirty-six sure-fire indicators that your empire is falling apart:
You know your empire's crumbling when the folks who are gearing up
their empire to replace yours start blowing up satellites in space. And then they don't bother to return your phone calls when you ring up to ask why.
You know your empire's crumbling when those same folks are cutting
deals left, right and center across Asia, Latin America and Africa, while you, your lousy terms, and your arrogant attitude are no longer welcome.
You know your empire's crumbling when you're spending your grandchildren's money like a drunken sailor, and letting your
soon-to-be rivals finance your little splurge (i.e., letting them own your country).
You know your empire's crumbling when it's considered an achievement
to pretend that you've halved the rate at which you're adding to the
massive mountain of debt you've already accumulated.
You know your empire's crumbling when you weaken your currency until
it looks as anemic as a Paris runway model, and you're still setting record trade deficits. (Hint: Because you're not making anything anymore.)
You know your empire's crumbling when "the little brown ones" (thank
you George H.W. Bush - certainly not me - for that lovely expression)
in country after country of "your backyard" blow you off and proudly
elect anti-imperialist leftist governments.
You know your empire's crumbling when you can't topple those governments and replace them with nice puppet regimes - like in the good old days - even if you wanted to. And you badly want to.
You know your empire's crumbling when one of their leaders comes to the United Nations and makes fun of your emperor, calling him the devil, and joking about smelling sulphur where he just stood. And though a few folks cringe, everybody laughs.
You know your empire's crumbling when just about your entire military
land force is tied up in a worse-than-useless war launched on the basis of complete fabrications, that every day is actually making you less - not more - secure from external threat.
You know your empire's crumbling when almost half the soldiers in that war are high-paid mercenaries, and you don't dare institute a draft.
You know your empire's crumbling when you send soldiers into war with
two weeks training and a lack of armor, and then you keep them there
for three, four and five rotations.
You know your empire's crumbling when a member of the Axis of Evil can test missiles and explode nuclear warheads, and all you can do about it is mumble some pathetic warnings about how they better not do that again or there will be consequences.
You know your empire's crumbling when you even think that there is an
Axis of Evil.
You know your empire's crumbling when a rag-tag military hodge-podge
of irregulars has you pinned down in an endless fight you can't win, but also can't lose.
You know your empire's crumbling when you're too dumb to even ban
Humvees as a first step toward ending your dependency on a foreign-owned crucial resource.
You know your empire's crumbling when you trade your prior moral leadership on human rights issues for global disgust at your torture, 'extraordinary rendition' (a.k.a. kidnaping for torture) and the
dismantling of nine centuries worth of civil liberties progress.
You know your empire's crumbling when you blow off international law that you once helped create, and undermine the institutions of international governance that you once helped build.
You know your empire's crumbling when opinion polls confirm that every month you're more and more despised throughout the world.
You know your empire's crumbling when you can't even pull off the hanging of a tin-pot murderous former dictator without turning him into a hero.
You know your empire's crumbling when you're the richest country in the world, but nearly 50 million of your people don't have basic health care coverage.
You know your empire's crumbling when the World Health Organization
ranks your healthcare system 37th 'best' in the world, just above Slovenia, and just below Costa Rica. (And far below Colombia, Cyprus,
Saudi Arabia and Morocco.)
You know your empire's crumbling when instead of making it easier for
citizens to obtain a higher education, you're making it harder and more expensive.
You know your empire's crumbling when your government gives tax breaks to industries as a reward for exporting your jobs elsewhere.
You know your empire's crumbling when the so-called 'opposition' party can't even turn that obscenity into a viable campaign theme and use it to clobber the worst emperor in your history.
You know your empire's crumbling when your middle class has been stagnant for three decades, while the wealth of the hyper-rich continues to climb through the roof.
You know your empire's crumbling when your reaction to that is to exacerbate the problem by enacting tax policies that massively increase further still the gap between the rich and the rest.
You know your empire's crumbling when the predatory class has taken
over your government and is stripping the country of everything not bolted down to the floor. And then it sells the floor itself, as well, to your rivals.
You know your empire's crumbling when you're spending tens of billions of dollars you don't own on new nuclear warheads and space weapons that don't work, to be used against an enemy you don't have.
You know your empire's crumbling when one of your cities drowns and
your government does next to nothing before, during and after.
You know your empire's crumbling when a massive environmental nightmare is looming around the corner, and your emperor not only
ignores it, but claims it isn't real while taking steps to exacerbate it.
You know your empire's crumbling when your emperor is warned by a CIA briefer of an imminent terrorist attack of vast proportions, and
responds by remaining on vacation and dismissing the briefer with the words: "All right. You've covered your ass, now."
You know your empire's crumbling when the same emperor drops everything to fly across the country from his vacation home in order to sign a bill intervening on the wrong side of a personal medical drama involving a single family.
You know your empire's crumbling when gays and immigrants are used as diversionary issues to keep people from thinking about the pillaging
of their country and their wallets actually taking place. And it works.
You know your empire's crumbling when people are getting more religious and less scientific, not the other way around. You know your empire's crumbling when your political leaders start to be chosen by dynastic rules of succession.
And you especially know your empire's crumbling when the most idiotic
child of one of the least accomplished leaders in its history is not only crowned as the next emperor, but is even revered for a time by most of the public as a great one.
Rome? Britain? Spain?
At this rate we'll be lucky to end up like Belgium.
David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra
University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers' reactions
to his articles (www.regressiveantidote.net (http://www.regressiveantidote.net).
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Castle, no, you may not be effected immediately, but Ohio certainly isnt going offer you anything but time. The literal and figurative fallout of 12 nukes will turn all your lives into such a hell that you will likely commit suicide shortly after a catastrophe of this nature.
Its not surprising to see the fear you folks attempt to hide with the mocking nature of your posts. The threat is real, and the likelihood is well beyond speculation.
Dont you owe it to yourselves and your children to at least prepare for something like this?... even mentally?
Casandra, maybe you dont let fear motivate you to take action, for that you are an idiot. You folks think fear is a weakness?
No, fear should not consume anyone. But the threat of terrorist attacks on the US is imminent, and as crazy as you folks may think people who prepare for it are...you fit the same mold.
Security certainly does exist throughout all of nature in the form of natural defense mechanisms that have evolved among every living thing on earth, the most prevalent being fear that prompts action.
I know enough to assume a catastrophic event will take place...soon.
Beyond speculation. But I dont have any more information available to me since sharing this with you. The motivations of the people who wish to kill US citizens is, and should be enough of an alarm to warrant consideration.
Most of my former professional associates concur. It will happen within the next 18 months.
Does anyone know why the words "economic terrorism" exist and is now considered an act of war?
When the Saudis begin to take their money out of the US, the fuse has been lit. Its a shame that our Gov and media will likely never tell us when the Saudis come to get that money.
We are at the mercy of the Saudis and Kuwaitis. Our country is being run by them. Our war with Iraq only exists because of them. But our war is not with Iraq. It is with Iran, and Pakistan, and Syria, and Egypt, and Afghanistan, and Turkey.
And of course. Saudi Arabia.
On a side note, its a bit irritating to read and hear the claims that our war was illegal and immoral and unjustified. If WMD were the real cause of this war, it has been justified. Period.
I suppose none of you have heard about the lake south of Baghdad that your tax dollars encompassed completely with a fence, and now has more military defense and security than even the pentagon?
Why you say?
Because laying in the bottom of the lake is the largest of several cache's of nuclear, radiologic and biological weapons including long range missiles capable of killing every last human being on this planet either directly or indirectly.
They are the only thing the insurgents in Iraq are after.
Many of you think the US invaded Iraq ulterior motives and you think this because of a report that no WMD's existed?
Oh, they were found, they may not have been seen, but interrogations and intel let our tight lipped gov know they were there and existed.
Does anyone have a guess as to why the US and he world was never told?
Fear is a good answer. But its not the correct answer.
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I also heard the rumor that Angelina is afriad shes going to lose Brad back to Jen soon....what the hell is everyone gonna do then?
I agree with Cassandra, safety is an illusion...probably one of the biggest illusions we create for ourselves. You could move to Montana, only to step out your front door, slip on a rock and break your neck. I dont wish the death of a thousand suns on anyone, thats for certain....but people die horrible deaths every single day, and I am in no way entitled to any greater fate as a human being than they are. I mean, thousand are slaughtered in third world countries over civil strife every year....wheres the fear for them? The outrage? Its not something that COULD happen brother....it already IS happenening, and just because it isnt happnening to us, makes it no less real or meaningful.
Damn, we all might as well just kill ourselves and get it over with.. :lol:
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Castle, no, you may not be effected immediately, but Ohio certainly isnt going offer you anything but time. The literal and figurative fallout of 12 nukes will turn all your lives into such a hell that you will likely commit suicide shortly after a catastrophe of this nature.
Its not surprising to see the fear you folks attempt to hide with the mocking nature of your posts. The threat is real, and the likelihood is well beyond speculation.
Dont you owe it to yourselves and your children to at least prepare for something like this?... even mentally?
Casandra, maybe you dont let fear motivate you to take action, for that you are an idiot. You folks think fear is a weakness?
No, fear should not consume anyone. But the threat of terrorist attacks on the US is imminent, and as crazy as you folks may think people who prepare for it are...you fit the same mold.
Security certainly does exist throughout all of nature in the form of natural defense mechanisms that have evolved among every living thing on earth, the most prevalent being fear that prompts action.
I know enough to assume a catastrophic event will take place...soon.
Beyond speculation. But I dont have any more information available to me since sharing this with you. The motivations of the people who wish to kill US citizens is, and should be enough of an alarm to warrant consideration.
Most of my former professional associates concur. It will happen within the next 18 months.
Does anyone know why the words "economic terrorism" exist and is now considered an act of war?
When the Saudis begin to take their money out of the US, the fuse has been lit. Its a shame that our Gov and media will likely never tell us when the Saudis come to get that money.
We are at the mercy of the Saudis and Kuwaitis. Our country is being run by them. Our war with Iraq only exists because of them. But our war is not with Iraq. It is with Iran, and Pakistan, and Syria, and Egypt, and Afghanistan, and Turkey.
And of course. Saudi Arabia.
On a side note, its a bit irritating to read and hear the claims that our war was illegal and immoral and unjustified. If WMD were the real cause of this war, it has been justified. Period.
I suppose none of you have heard about the lake south of Baghdad that your tax dollars encompassed completely with a fence, and now has more military defense and security than even the pentagon?
Why you say?
Because laying in the bottom of the lake is the largest of several cache's of nuclear, radiologic and biological weapons including long range missiles capable of killing every last human being on this planet either directly or indirectly.
They are the only thing the insurgents in Iraq are after.
Many of you think the US invaded Iraq ulterior motives and you think this because of a report that no WMD's existed?
Oh, they were found, they may not have been seen, but interrogations and intel let our tight lipped gov know they were there and existed.
Does anyone have a guess as to why the US and he world was never told?
Fear is a good answer. But its not the correct answer.
We should have wiped out those fuckers a long time ago, but thanks to the Clinton administration and the rest of the scandalous people "up top" this was not possible.
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And why are we always SO fucking willing to swallow whatever the UN tells us?
Hmmm?
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Who wants to see the middle east in flames and a disaster take place here on US soil besides the terrorists?
A. Christians
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Who wants to see the middle east in flames and a disaster take place here on US soil besides the terrorists?
A. Christians
Thank you for your entry to February 4ths dumbest post contest.
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Who wants to see the middle east in flames and a disaster take place here on US soil besides the terrorists?
A. Christians
Thank you for your entry to February 4ths dumbest post contest.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Shouldn't you be at church on your knees singing praise to jebus? :rofl:
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Shouldn't you be at church on your knees singing praise to jebus? :rofl:
Shouldn't you be on your knees sucking Dr. Fucktard's wang? :rofl:
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Shouldn't you be at church on your knees singing praise to jebus? :rofl:
Shouldn't you be on your knees sucking Dr. Fucktard's wang? :rofl:
1/10
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Shouldn't you be at church on your knees singing praise to jebus? :rofl:
Shouldn't you be on your knees sucking Dr. Fucktard's wang? :rofl:
1/10
Oh come on... I'd say that was at least a 4.
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Dr Fucktards wang is certainly not 4.
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No, I give it a 2
Predictability, and the use of "wang" following the word "fucktard"
Fucktard is a left hook, you either need to follow a left hook with an equally powerful punch, or dont follow at all.
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Dr Fucktards wang is certainly not 4.
:lol: I meant the ~joke about Fucktard's wang.. :rofl:
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No, I give it a 2
Predictability, and the use of "wang" following the word "fucktard"
Fucktard is a left hook, you either need to follow a left hook with an equally powerful punch, or dont follow at all.
So a different word like "weenie" or something would have worked better?
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I know enough to assume a catastrophic event will take place...soon. (of course you do, did your cult guru tell you it was imminent?)
Beyond speculation. But I dont have any more information available to me since sharing this with you. (of course not lol) The motivations of the people who wish to kill US citizens is, and should be enough of an alarm to warrant consideration.
Most of my former professional associates concur. It will happen within the next 18 months. (Onoes!Q!!!OMG!!)
Does anyone know why the words "economic terrorism" exist and is now considered an act of war?
When the Saudis begin to take their money out of the US, the fuse has been lit. Its a shame that our Gov and media will likely never tell us when the Saudis come to get that money. (yeah and we will just bend over and take it right? that hundred billion dollar a year military, its just for air shows right?)
We are at the mercy of the Saudis and Kuwaitis. (LMAO! You have that completely backwards, sorry) Our country is being run by them. (again LOL, I thought it was the jews?) Our war with Iraq only exists because of them. (So project for a new americfan century, those people are all middle easy stooges.. get real) But our war is not with Iraq. It is with Iran, and Pakistan, and Syria, and Egypt, and Afghanistan, and Turkey.
And of course. Saudi Arabia. (I thought you said they ran the country, so how could we be at war with them? )
On a side note, its a bit irritating to read and hear the claims that our war was illegal and immoral and unjustified. If WMD were the real cause of this war, it has been justified. Period. (tell that to the dead solders who joined after 9/11 to fight the people who actually attacked america)
I suppose none of you have heard about the lake south of Baghdad that your tax dollars encompassed completely with a fence, and now has more military defense and security than even the pentagon? (the pentagon isnt surrounded by hostiles lobbing mortars and people willing to kill themselves in order to take a few inifdels with them. theres good reason to have a base, its called staying alive)
Why you say?
Because laying in the bottom of the lake is the largest of several cache's of nuclear, radiologic and biological weapons including long range missiles capable of killing every last human being on this planet either directly or indirectly.
They are the only thing the insurgents in Iraq are after. (well then i am seriously worried. small bands of young men armed with old soviet technology and homemade bombs against the 21st century killing machine known as the us military.. yeah, im so fucking worried!)
Many of you think the US invaded Iraq ulterior motives and you think this because of a report that no WMD's existed? (no its because of the jews, this is all for israel, remember? ... or wait, was it the saudis, or the kuwaitis.. i forgot.. who really runs this country again?)
Oh, they were found, they may not have been seen, but interrogations and intel let our tight lipped gov know they were there and existed. (then how come no iraqi stepped up to claim the lottery prize david kay was offering post invasion for anyone with information about the nuclear program. he was offering a new life anywhere in the world, and millions of dollars for anyone with information. but i doubt you read his writings on the subject ? sadaams weapons program was a bluff post 91 gulf war. accept it. move on.. we called his bluff and we were wrong)
Does anyone have a guess as to why the US and he world was never told?
Fear is a good answer. But its not the correct answer. (what werent we told? that the real reason we invaded iraq was to blunder on purpose to allow the domestic insurgency that is sure to rise a chance to steal a dozen nukes while the US was asleep at the wheel? or that somehow starting a civil war right on the boder of saudi and kuwait is good for them and that they somehow wanted it? thanks for an entertaining read)
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No, I give it a 2
Predictability, and the use of "wang" following the word "fucktard"
Fucktard is a left hook, you either need to follow a left hook with an equally powerful punch, or dont follow at all.
So a different word like "weenie" or something would have worked better?
Weenie? No.
Swollen one-eyed spitting lizard would have scored much higher.
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A little too wordy, IMO.
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Over analysis can ruin everything.
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And why are we always SO fucking willing to swallow whatever the UN tells us?
Hmmm?
And why are are so willing to believe this anonymous Guest. I think he's full of shit and made all this up.
A cache of WMDs conveniently hidden at the bottom of a lake with the government covering it up. Please. The government couldn't keep that secret.
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The US doesn't have any SCUBA gear right now due to budgetary constraints. We spent so much money on the Iraq war at the behest of the Saudis we cannot spent the money to recover the weapons from the lake! That's why the navy is so upset. It all makes sense now...
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And why are we always SO fucking willing to swallow whatever the UN tells us?
Hmmm?
And why are are so willing to believe this anonymous Guest. I think he's full of shit and made all this up.
A cache of WMDs conveniently hidden at the bottom of a lake with the government covering it up. Please. The government couldn't keep that secret.
Are you fucking kidding me? The gov't can keep just about ANYTHING secret. Oh nevermind. Shit...
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The US doesn't have any SCUBA gear right now due to budgetary constraints. We spent so much money on the Iraq war at the behest of the Saudis we cannot spent the money to recover the weapons from the lake! That's why the navy is so upset. It all makes sense now...
:rofl: :rofl:
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Theyve been keeping chemtrails and flouride secret forever.. look at the death rate statistics, theyve been plumetting.
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A coworker of mine belongs to a small pseudo-religious group that go on about the same dooms day delusions. He also gives them 10% of his gross take home pay. But he tells me I will be sorry when Israel takes it's borders, and that's going to happen any day now.
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The US doesn't have any SCUBA gear right now due to budgetary constraints. We spent so much money on the Iraq war at the behest of the Saudis we cannot spent the money to recover the weapons from the lake! That's why the navy is so upset. It all makes sense now...
What a moron! What the fuck would they do with scuba gear? Bring the weapons to the surface?
Theres no fuckin reason to touch them, theyre in a pretty safe place dont you think?
Everything Ive said is verifiable, you just need to look further than your local fox news to find it.
With the imminent probability of a catastrophic event in the near future, how is a doomsday mentality any more unreasonable than no reaction at all?
The only preparations Ive made are to build a concrete lead lined bunker. It is self sustaining environment with live plants, 6 months worth of food and water and oxygen, an external containment port for human waste, photoelectric energy generation with battery storage...and of course a few guns to protect it from idiots like the ones here who will beg for entry when the bombs go off.
Right now, its growing pot.
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Castle, no, you may not be effected immediately, but Ohio certainly isnt going offer you anything but time. The literal and figurative fallout of 12 nukes will turn all your lives into such a hell that you will likely commit suicide shortly after a catastrophe of this nature.
Well, I was being facetious. I Have no desire to move to Ohio. I'll stay right where I am and let the radiation vaporize me, thank you.
Probably the only smart thing I ever heard from my stepfather was when he said "When your number's up, your number's up."
If it does happen, I just hope I have enough time to score some ridiculously sticky weed and smoke a huge fat bowl before it all goes down. If ever there was a reason to quit my weed abstinence, that would be it. :smokin:
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If it does happen, I just hope I have enough time to score some ridiculously sticky weed and smoke a huge fat bowl before it all goes down. If ever there was a reason to quit my weed abstinence, that would be it. :smokin:
Create your "emergency kit". Don't forget a lighter.
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If the subject is at all interesting to you, you might want to read a novel written back in 1980. The Fifth Horseman; by Larry Collins and Dominique LaPierre. It is a work of fiction about Libyan terrorist planting a thermonuclear device in New York City. It is basically a suspense novel: will the detective find the terrorist - will they find the bomb - who will get killed next, and so on. It is a real page turner that makes the possibility of this scenario seem frightening plausible. It is out of print now, but you can get cheep second hand copies on Amazon or Ebay. Its worth looking for if you like a good read; or if the subject of nuclear terrorism interest you.
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If it does happen, I just hope I have enough time to score some ridiculously sticky weed and smoke a huge fat bowl before it all goes down. If ever there was a reason to quit my weed abstinence, that would be it. :smokin:
Create your "emergency kit". Don't forget a lighter.
In case of emergency, break glass.
"Fortunately, we are in a constant state of emergency."
-Hawkeye Pierce