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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: HOLIDAEINN87 on January 27, 2007, 09:36:53 PM
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Wow so I was adopted and then grew up and ended up get sent off to a boarding school. Which is like what was the point of adopting me bringing me to America for the wonderful American education at HYDE. I must say that if u are a parent and you are thinking about sending your kid to a school that might help them in some way, cross out hyde from your list of possibilities unless u want your kid to hold some kind of anger resentment on u after they graduate or even go there for a year. People call it a cult but I don?t think it?s a cult at all. Its actually a place for kids to get ass raped and there life?s fucked with ? during the summer I had to start my life all over again and find out who I really was. They tell you that you need to change who you are, and then when you leave that place its like u look about on it and think wait sooo who am I? Imagine if everyone was like Joe Gauld ??? I remember when I watched my fellow classmates so up there and make amazing speeches and knowing that they were ?dirty? and then I remember going up there to get that document and not making a speech? I didn?t get to express my opinion because I was doing the things that I wanted to do? and what I did didn?t hurt anyone? then I remember the day that I got to college and sat down and was like how do you write a college essay? they taught us how to write the 5 paragraph essay? what the fuck did I learn in HIGH school??????????????????? Live is not getting up at 6am cleaning room and walking to breakfast and then going to get your meds and then you go to class all doped up on your meds and the day just flies bye next thing you know your at sports and then taking a shower going to dinner, study hall, dorm, dealing with bullshit in your dorm, and then you don?t to sleep until 11 or 12 not because of studying but because you are responsible for everyone else?s shit?.. that is not life, that is not the fucking real world? now I have to deal with making up a semester because I got to college and just sat here thinking WOW that was 4 years of bullshit my parents just wasted 170,000 dollars
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Wow so I was adopted and then grew up and ended up get sent off to a boarding school. Which is like what was the point of adopting me bringing me to America for the wonderful American education at HYDE. I must say that if u are a parent and you are thinking about sending your kid to a school that might help them in some way, cross out hyde from your list of possibilities unless u want your kid to hold some kind of anger resentment on u after they graduate or even go there for a year. People call it a cult but I don?t think it?s a cult at all. Its actually a place for kids to get ass raped and there life?s fucked with ? during the summer I had to start my life all over again and find out who I really was. They tell you that I want you to change who you are, and then when you leave that place its like u look about on it and think wait sooo who am I? Imagine if everyone was like Joe Gauld ??? I remember when I watched my fellow classmates so up there and make amazing speeches and knowing that they were ?dirty? and then I remember going up there to get that document and not making a speech? I didn?t get to express my opinion because I was doing the things that I wanted to do? and what I did didn?t hurt anyone? then I remember the day that I got to college and sat down and was like how do you write a college essay? they taught us how to write the 5 paragraph essay? what the fuck did I learn in HIGH school??????????????????? Live is not getting up at 6am cleaning room and walking to breakfast and then going to get your meds and then you go to class all doped up on your meds and the day just flies bye next thing you know your at sports and then taking a shower going to dinner, study hall, dorm, dealing with bullshit in your dorm, and then you don?t to sleep until 11 or 12 not because of studying but because you are responsible for everyone else?s shit?.. that is not life, that is not the fucking real world? now I have to deal with making up a semester because I got to college and just sat here thinking WOW that was 4 years of bullshit my parents just wasted 170,000 dollars
I'm sorry you had such a negative experience at Hyde. Sadly, you have lots of company. Many Hyde students feel their time there was wasted or harmful, or both. As you say, it's especially infuriating when students who are dirty play Hyde's game and end up giving speeches. This is typical of the Hyde hypocrits. Of course, not only are some students hypocrits at Hyde; many staff are too. When I was at Hyde I saw staff who liked to give us the Hyde speech about things like truth, humility, and courage, and then they would turn around and lie, act arrogantly, and be afraid to stand up to the people running Hyde. Did they really think students didn't notice? I agree with you . . . parents should NOT send their kids to Hyde.
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Its actually a place for kids to get ass raped and there life?s fucked with ?
Were you raped at Hyde?
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NOO I WAS NOT RAPED AT HYDE WHAT THE HELL KINDA QUESTION IS THAT???? BUT HYDE WAS A FUCKED UP EXPERIENCE
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SORRY, didn't mean to offend... you mentioned above noted phrase in your piece, that's why I asked... And I agree, Hyde IS a really messed up place to be.
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NOO I WAS NOT RAPED AT HYDE WHAT THE HELL KINDA QUESTION IS THAT???? BUT HYDE WAS A FUCKED UP EXPERIENCE
well i do know someone who was raped at hyde. He was the son of someone who became a headmaster for a few years. Hyde somehow got them to keep things quiet. I bet this kid is going to hate his parents and hyde when he finally deals with things.
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I think many/most of us know someone who was raped at Hyde, even if we don't know that they were raped. I don't know if it is Hyde or just society in general,,,
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I think many/most of us know someone who was raped at Hyde, even if we don't know that they were raped. I don't know if it is Hyde or just society in general,,,
Are u minimizing a rape at a boarding school? Yes, something like this can and does happen, but the normal course would be to call the police and report it, get the kid psychological counseling, etc. To my knowledge Hyde did neither one of these things. Hyde usually handles everything in house. I remember one time when a friend went to the emergency room at the hospital. Hyde never bothered to call her parents and they freaked out when they found out.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
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NOO I WAS NOT RAPED AT HYDE WHAT THE HELL KINDA QUESTION IS THAT???? BUT HYDE WAS A FUCKED UP EXPERIENCE
Can you tell us a little more about your experiences at Hyde and what kind of other destruction things you saw happening on campus. Which campus did you go to?
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OK PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT RAPE AT HYDE... I NEVER GOT RAPED AT HYDE I AM JUST SAYING THAT HYDE WAS A VERY PAINFULL EXPERENCE...U KNOW HAVING SEX AT HYDE IS VERY INTERESTING THO
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This is a forum for all, and a thread for all... Hence, with all due respect, and with the kindest of intentions, I don't think you can stipulate what people do or do not talk about. That said, you did state something else which I wished to address, namely:
People call it a cult but I don?t think it?s a cult at all.
Jehovah's Witnesses, est, Scientolgy are all considered cults, what makes Hyde any different?
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
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People call it a cult but I don?t think it?s a cult at all.
Jehovah's Witnesses, est, Scientolgy are all considered cults, what makes Hyde any different?
cut-and paste from another forum here:
Six conditions are simultaneously present in a thought reform program: (margaret singer)
* obtaining substantial control over an individual's time and thought content, typically by gaining control over major elements of the person's social and physical environment,
* systematically creating a sense of powerlessness in the person,
* manipulating a system of rewards, punishment. and experiences in such a way as to promote new learning of an ideology or belief system advocated by management,
* manipulating a system of rewards, punishments, and experiences in such a way as to inhibit observable behavior that reflects the values and routines of life organization the individual displayed prior to contact with the group,
* maintaining a closed system of logic and an authoritarian structure in the organization and
* maintaining a non-informed state existing in the subject.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
Ok have two guesses:
you are in your 40's
the event was in June '06
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
Ok have two guesses:
you are in your 40's
the event was in June '06
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
Ok have two guesses:
you are in your 40's
the event was in June '06
No, you must be thinking of someone else. The event I'm referring to was a couple of years ago (and I'm not in my 40's). Sorry to be vague, but our family is in the process of putting together a complaint against Hyde, so I can't be too specific at this point - perhaps later.
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
Ok have two guesses:
you are in your 40's
the event was in June '06
No, you must be thinking of someone else. The event I'm referring to was a couple of years ago (and I'm not in my 40's). Sorry to be vague, but our family is in the process of putting together a complaint against Hyde, so I can't be too specific at this point - perhaps later.
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Sorry to be vague, but our family is in the process of putting together a complaint against Hyde, so I can't be too specific at this point - perhaps later.
Join the club... ::cheers::
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No, I am not minimizing it. Far from it. But I do know that Hyde minimizes it. They do not call the police. They don't even call the parents usually. They think grilling the victimized student in school meetings and seminars addresses the same needs as should be addressed in psychological counseling and which, if anything, only traumatizes the kid even more. It is an appalling blindness to human needs let alone legal responsibilities, and one that continues as a matter of course. Always has, as long as they have been in operation.
This is serious stuff here! Are you sure there are not any laws governing private boarding schools? It is hard to believe that in this day and age things like this can happen without any consequences. Hey, does Hyde preach about consequences? Isn't that what 2-4 is about? How about Hyde? What kind of consequences do they have?
From what I know personally and what I have read here on the threads it appears that from time to time a family gets pushed to their limits and they sue the school. The school's insurance company then settles out of court and the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere. Since it isn't on the records, the school can pretend it never happened, at least as far as the next crop of students and their parents is concerned. And such "crops" come and go, and time passes, and people's personal experiences of the school never span a very large period of time so it is easy to think of such egregious incidents, if one's time overlapped with one, as unfortunate but unusual.
But it appears they are not so unusual, they've been happening for over 30 years. And not once, at least that I am aware of, has the school bothered to apologize to the transgressees and the community at large and attempt to make amends, let alone ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongfulness of these acts and take steps to ensure that they do not happen again. The school's attitude implicitely condones sexual predators, hence makes the suffering of their victims that much worse and that much more of a mindfuck.
Yes, it's absolutely criminal that Hyde has been able to get away with these abuses for decades. There is quite a collection of incriminating stories about abuses and unprofessional behavior at Hyde over the years.
While it's tragic that so much of this has been buried over the decades, clearly the tide is turning. What is fundamentally different is that now, for the first time, Hyde is being exposed far and wide as a result of the internet. Until now, Hyde has been able to control the flow of information and has always puts its own one-sided spin on any bad publicity.
Now, however, Hyde is NOT in control. This is unprecedented, and I suspect the rapid dissemination of negative publicity about Hyde through the internet has Hyde administrators running scared. They know that the proverbial cat is out of the bag and there's virtually nothing they can do about it. Hyde people are probably monitoring this and other sites and are worried sick. They know that more and more people (parents, educational consultants, etc.) who are interested in Hyde are Googling the school and coming across this website and other criticisms posted on the internet. The visibility of this particular website is growing and growing (just check the Google rankings).
And the latest news is that one of the people posting on this web site, Gary, is inviting people who have opinions about Hyde (positive or negative) to contact him for interviews. It sounds like Gary is planning to write this up and spread it around. Never has Hyde been exposed like this.
Hyde finally is getting a taste of its own medicine. For decades Joe Gauld and his gang have been dishing it out with impunity. Never, I suspect, did they imagine that Hyde's victims would be able to inflict so much damage. Hyde has always assumed that it was impervious to criticism. This is poetic justice.
I LUV IT, but... do you really think they are "running scared" and "worried sick" about the negative publicity? I think the mindset inherent in the depraved indifference and one-size-fits-all mentality pretty much inoculates them against any criticism or notions of responsibility... But also, yes, the internet's effect IS amazing. I never in a million years would have imaged reading other students' experiences that echoed my own.
The reason Hyde may be worried sick is that this publicity is probably affecting enrollments. Hyde has lots of competition, more than ever before. I have heard Hyde officials talk about their concern about enrollments, both in public and private. The financial implications are huge. Hyde simply can't afford bad publicity, so this internet publicity is probably having an impact.
There is no question that some people are reading these postings and, as a result, are deciding to not apply to Hyde. That has NEVER happened before; parents who were considering Hyde before the internet never would have had access to this information. All they had access to was Hyde's own materials and educational consultants' recommendations (and the occasional parent). The tide has turned.
No shit? You talk to Hyde officials in private. Do they have any idea you are spitting up the kool-aide?
It wasn't that kind of private discussion (that is, not in an office or other private setting). I was standing right near two senior Hyde administrators at a public event when they were talking about admissions, the percentage of families that signed up that spring to return in the fall, etc. They were hardly whispering; it was quite easy to overhear their conversation, although I doubt they wanted me or anyone else to hear their frank discussion about the "yield" and admissions trends.
I've also also heard Macolm Gauld talk quite openly about all of the competition that Hyde faces and his concern about Hyde's ambiguous and often confused image in the "market." Malcolm didn't directly acknowledge all of the negative publicity that's circulating about Hyde; however, given the nature of his comments it's hard for me to imagine that Hyde administrators aren't very nervous about this relatively recent development (this web site, etc.). I have a feeling that this web site and other very negative publicity have caught them by surprise and they're not sure what to do about it. Hyde's not used to being unable to exercise complete control, so this is probably very troubling to them.
Ok have two guesses:
you are in your 40's
the event was in June '06
No, you must be thinking of someone else. The event I'm referring to was a couple of years ago (and I'm not in my 40's). Sorry to be vague, but our family is in the process of putting together a complaint against Hyde, so I can't be too specific at this point - perhaps later.
One of the things that upsets me is that Hyde is able to use our tax paying dollars to get rich off of these charter schools they are opening. They have connected with the right suckers who sell Hyde to the education board of their state. Very disturbing. I believe Hyde has also been trying to get grants from companies like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. If any of you have the time you would be doing a good deed by informing these various foundations who grant money to education, about your experiences at Hyde both good and bad. I hear it is better to be pro-active because once the grant has been made there isn't much that can be done. It would be an embarassment to the companies or foundations to not go through with a grant that has been promised.
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Could you describe for us a little more how our tax dollars end up at the charter schools? Perahps I am a bit dense on the subject, but I suspect I am not alone...
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Could you describe for us a little more how our tax dollars end up at the charter schools? Perahps I am a bit dense on the subject, but I suspect I am not alone...
Charter schools typically receive some form of subsidy from public (state, school district, etc.) funds. Here is a good overview: http://www.edreform.com/index.cfm?fuseA ... umentID=60 (http://www.edreform.com/index.cfm?fuseAction=document&documentID=60)
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They provide alternate environments in troubled school districts.
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Wow so I was adopted and then grew up and ended up get sent off to a boarding school. Which is like what was the point of adopting me bringing me to America for the wonderful American education at HYDE. I must say that if u are a parent and you are thinking about sending your kid to a school that might help them in some way, cross out hyde from your list of possibilities unless u want your kid to hold some kind of anger resentment on u after they graduate or even go there for a year. People call it a cult but I don?t think it?s a cult at all. Its actually a place for kids to get ass raped and there life?s fucked with ? during the summer I had to start my life all over again and find out who I really was. They tell you that you need to change who you are, and then when you leave that place its like u look about on it and think wait sooo who am I? Imagine if everyone was like Joe Gauld ??? I remember when I watched my fellow classmates so up there and make amazing speeches and knowing that they were ?dirty? and then I remember going up there to get that document and not making a speech? I didn?t get to express my opinion because I was doing the things that I wanted to do? and what I did didn?t hurt anyone? then I remember the day that I got to college and sat down and was like how do you write a college essay? they taught us how to write the 5 paragraph essay? what the fuck did I learn in HIGH school??????????????????? Live is not getting up at 6am cleaning room and walking to breakfast and then going to get your meds and then you go to class all doped up on your meds and the day just flies bye next thing you know your at sports and then taking a shower going to dinner, study hall, dorm, dealing with bullshit in your dorm, and then you don?t to sleep until 11 or 12 not because of studying but because you are responsible for everyone else?s shit?.. that is not life, that is not the fucking real world? now I have to deal with making up a semester because I got to college and just sat here thinking WOW that was 4 years of bullshit my parents just wasted 170,000 dollars
CAROLINE!! Aaah, I love you. After I left, sometimes I wondered about you and Cait, and if you ever became brainwashed. I'm glad you didn't.