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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: hedwigfan on April 08, 2003, 10:05:00 AM

Title: my favorite things
Post by: hedwigfan on April 08, 2003, 10:05:00 AM

my husband and kids
rainy afternoons
the movie "Men Don't Leave"
chocolate
the Brady Bunch
really great sex
FoodTV
Chopin
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
painting
cooking
really good cheese
my beagle and my Brittany
a good belly laugh
my patients
learning new things
Poland
freedom

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2003, 11:42:00 AM

My Family
Shopping with my daughter
Canooing with Jonathan
Swimming in a huge rock quarry on a sunny summer day, alone.
friends
BBQs
fresh fruit in a pie
Awesome music
fireplaces
stars
Having a Garden
Saturday afternoons
rainbows
mountains
Trees
leaves changing colors
picnics
fresh snow
flowers
driving with the windows down, while listening to good music
The ocean
Laughing
Loving
Living
Learning
Growing
Giving
I could go on...
Hedwigfan,
I've been meaning to comment, that is one of my favorite movies. I cry every time! It's so good. (Hedwig and the Angry Inch) that is. The sound track it awesome. Good stuff!
My other favorite movie is Harold and Maude.
HWF, are you Polish?
I am Polish, a painter, and I love to cook! Even though I'm vegen, I love good cheese.
Goat cheese. MMmmmmmmmm.
I liked your post, and thought I'd tell you hi.
Morli

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 11:44:00 AM

Well, I was logged in, oops! Oh well, that's me.

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Carmel on April 08, 2003, 12:53:00 PM

Anyone remeber writing "in-words" and inspiration lists on your MI's?  

I think its a positive thought, this thread...although its probably the very last bit of creepiness that I can stand.  This place has gone to hell in a handbasket.

No offense to those posting their favorite things....it just reminds me personally of when staff would call for a song while someone was being thrown to the floor....we were all singing and chanting....and in the bcakground, there was screaming.

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 01:44:00 PM

No offense to those posting their favorite things....

Right......

Title: my favorite things
Post by: hedwigfan on April 08, 2003, 02:09:00 PM

Yes, I am Polish, and have quite a bit of family in southern Poland. My last visit there was in 2001 with my parents, my husband, and our kids. It was the last trip I took with my father, who was born and raised there. He died suddenly on Feb. 2 of this year, and I miss him terribly.
  Alway like to hear from other fans of Hedwig. Really great music and graphics. "I feel so optimistic..."

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Carmel on April 08, 2003, 02:16:00 PM

You know, your just pissed because your husband got on here and ranted and raved about how we should all keep our mouth shut if we didnt want to jump on the bandwagon of love and goodness every single time some one posted.  And some people felt that was wrong, so it was voiced....yes, by me it was voiced as well.  And you have been crawling up my ass every single time I post whether its benign or not! Then you surf around posting like you are miss "Star of Hope" all over the place trying to be so HELPFUL.

I think its garbage.  If I wanted to be offensive to you in that last post, why the hell would I make any statement clarifying that it was again...MY PERSONAL feelings.  PERSONAL OPINIONS, of which all seem to have gone to shit on this board.  Join the ranks or be crushed.  I have never been hounded or given so much grief by anyone as I have by you in the last few weeks and I have been posting here for almost 2 years.

We all get into debate here, but to be honest I had never seen anthing so blatantly censoring and a violation of the right to opinion as I had when he made that post.  I sometimes play the Devil's Advocate here in order to help keep up a healthy open position, for myself as well as others.  But I have never told anyone they arent ALLOWED to speak their mind.

And dont come back insulting me with this "honey" and "sweetie" venomous bullshit.  I am neither your honey nor your sweetie. YOU have to know that what he posted was unfair and not even in keeping with your lovely attitude about spreading understanding and support.  

If you dont like me, then just lay off me.  I simply felt like with all the shit going down here, it reminded ME, THATS ME ONLY, about what it used to be like in group.  I didnt say I didnt like your favorite movie or your favorite tv channel for crying out loud.  Why dont you post a little poll of your own and ask everyone if they want to boot ME off the board?  Then you could flutter about spreading your love and support unhindered by those of us who dont want to be like frigging sheep?

Can you honestly look back and say that what that person posted anonymously to the new poster was wrong one little bit in view of how things are turning out on this board?  Is it lying to say that we arent just all a bunch of helpful supportive love-bugs?  I defy you to make that judgement.

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 02:26:00 PM

Polish-Jewish here. My Grandpa.
Another one of my best friends is PJ too. She speaks Hebrew beautifully. I'm so sorry about your father. My daughter and I recently lost her father suddenly. Every day is different with the grieving. One day your memories are wonderful, and the next the loss is unbearable all over again. He was the best friend I'd ever had. All we can do is love the life we have right now I've learned.
Morli

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 06:24:00 PM

For one thing, people tend to take insults offensively last time I checked. No matter what you say you are not meaning to say: Like this for instance, ? I?m not trying to be an ass-hole, but you?re an idiot.?
  Also, Jonathan does not rant and rave, and he apologized stating:

"Actually it was my "Communist" post that seems to have everyone upset. Let me apologize. I guess my reaction was a little over the top, I did not mean to suggest censorship or denying anyone the ability to express their own opinions. My intention was to suggest that the "Anon"'s comment really didn't belong in this thread and was actually detrimental, considering the nature of the original topic. (see the opening post)That was why I was upset about the reference to posting without consequences. I deleted my original post because it was just adding to fire. And I don't want to be the one hijacking this thread. So for anyone who read my "incendiary" post consider it rescinded. And my apologies to those who took my post to be promoting that there be no free will to dissent here. If we all agreed then there would be nothing to talk about. This is a great forum and I wouldn't want to change anything."

 He doesn't post here anymore, and he won't ever again. I haven't hounded you or given you grief, I tried to explain that I thought  you misunderstood him to begin with. I had been here one week when I posted that thread. I did not post looking for a fight. I posted hoping to find someone to relate to me.  Anything I took to personally, that the original anonymous wrote, I let go of, and discarded it as that, and yes, I deleted my original post which stated strong disagreement towards the anon. My  reaction to him was emotional, as was my frame of mind. I?ve admitted that. Your PERSONAL feelings are obviously ones of dislike towards me. I'm not going to let you bully me though. You're right! We don't see eye to eye, that doesn't mean:

"Join the ranks or be crushed."

 By the way, in case you haven't noticed, you are the one attacking, not me.  You started this with us and made it PERSONAL. Why?
 
You say you?re leaving, that the board has gone to hell, Well? You?re still here I haven?t been pushing you, you?ve been trying to start shit with me ever sense I came on this board. I?m not fighting with you.  This isn?t a bar. ?honey?  
I do have hope, and don't mind being referred to as a star either so thanks.

Why dont you post a little poll of your own and ask everyone if they want to boot ME off the board? Then you could flutter about spreading your love and support unhindered by those of us who dont want to be like frigging sheep?

Because,  not everyone is just like you Carmel,  sorry to disappoint you. Hate me all you need. I?m not the bovine.

Can you honestly look back and say that what that person posted anonymously to the new poster was wrong one little bit in view of how things are turning out on this board? Is it lying to say that we arent just all a bunch of helpful supportive love-bugs? I defy you to make that judgement.

 No, you are doing a great job of proving him right.

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Antigen on April 08, 2003, 08:45:00 PM

Plese stop all the ::crybaby::

Carmel, I get it. I have the same sort of wretching feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever something that might be kind of normal in another context reminds me of the dark weirdness.

I don't think you meant anything unkind by it. But I wouldn't have said it just so because... well, last time I did I think it was on Don's board and I put it something like "OMG, I think I'm going to puke!" and it really wasn't so well recieved.

In hind-sight, I probably should have not said it right at that time. Doesn't mean it's not true. Just that I tend to skip the love raps.

Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean.
-- John Muir

Title: my favorite things
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on April 08, 2003, 08:52:00 PM

[ This Message was edited by: 85 Day Jerk on 2003-04-08 19:51 ]

Title: my favorite things
Post by: hedwigfan on April 08, 2003, 09:20:00 PM

Bob, are you talking about the movie, Das Boot, or about a boat house? At any rate, have seen and enjoyed the movie.
   This thread was not intended to be a "love rap" or to haunt anyone with creepy vibes. For the love of cheez whiz! Is there anything wrong with actually attempting to get to know one another? Not everything in life has to somehow relate back to Straight, does it?

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Tampa survivor on April 08, 2003, 09:31:00 PM

"? Not everything in life has to somehow relate back to Straight, does it? "
Well, if you've dealt with it appropriately......

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 10:17:00 PM

Now I'm program? Look, I don't think of everything in life in terms of "Straight." Yes, I was there about two years, but I had already been in another boot-camp for 18 months. Before that I was getting my ass kicked by my dad for the first 12 years. While my mom couldn't have given a rats ass. Then he died, and my mom sent me away. I'm not a fucking "Straightling." I'm a person searching.
 I like the fucking movie, and I sat there, staring out the window first thing this morning thinking, "What things do I like... It is raining today. Rain is nice. And that rain turned into snow. No shit, it is snowing here. So at first you think, this is cheezy, but then you prioritize,  take a bong hit Ginger? what are my most, what are the least. Getting to know you , and your interests. Taking a moment to think about what is good in your life not your ?Straight Life.? It?s starting a topic about something besides bickering. It might be a little gay, but who cares? So are fucking Care Bears, but they are just so frikkin? cute!   I?d call it ?chick stuff? before I?d call it ?Straight like.?   Are we only allowed to talk about  SRI?  (((We are not in Straight anymore))) why do some of you reference it in a blaming or negetive context when you hear something you don?t like?
 I?ve got a hellofa  proposal  Let?s have a Hate Rap. Let?s talk about everything we hate, and nothing else Ever. Wait, doesn't that happen no matter what anyway? Apparently. That sound fun to you Carmel? BTW That?s sarcasm.  
Morli



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Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 10:30:00 PM

HWF,
I did not even see your post before I submitted mine. I was struck funny by the love rap remark myself obviously. Hahahahahaha,ha, ha heh... it was hilarious!
Take care.
Morli

Title: my favorite things
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on April 08, 2003, 10:45:00 PM

It was the second month of the new year and Ronnie Raygun was kicking in his second term with promises of new economic recovery.  Not much was being felt down here in Florida.  I had managed to get myself trespassed from my own apartment building for fighting with the landlord and threatening to kick his ass.  The police let me stay the one last night, but when it came time to pay the next weeks rent, I wound up being evicted.
I finished work at Sunshine Laundry the next day, and picked up my pay at the window.  I had asked Kelly to check around and see if any of the local flop-house apartment buildings had any vacancies.  She did'nt have any good news for me.  I had burned my last bridge at Ina's house way back during Hurricaine Elena and now I had to face the bitch of the matter.  I was homeless with enough money for a place to stay, but they were all full up, or I had been kicked out of them before for raising hell.  I walked over to First Avenue South to avoid all the bums and "good time Charlies" gathered along Central Ave, trying to get that last buzz on for the evening, before filing in line, like concentration camp inmates into the Praying Hands Mission for a place to sleep.  I would rather spend the night sleeping on a bed of fireants.  Jesus Saves, try telling that to Danny Wheeling, who caught a case of TB from staying there and shipped off with his two older brothers in a beat up '68 Cutlass with a questionable title on their way to Seattle and the new "grunge scene."  He died 2 weeks later in a small clinic his brothers left him at, in Hannibal Missouri.  He never even made it to Kansas.  Those thoughts were in my mind as some strange movement caught my eye.  A pair of workboots were hanging from below the tire well of a semi-trailer.  What made it strange was that there was a pair of legs attached to these boots, and presently an old man dropped to the ground from the trailer above.  He looked up and said, "She's all yours, partner, I won enough at Derby Lane today to blow this stinking town."  " I just came back to pick up my things."  "Getting all that cardboard was a bitch though, but the blankets are fresh, I stole 'em from the Missions clothesline just 2 days ago."  I thanked the man and wished him luck, then walked over to check out my new home.  This trailer must have hit a guardrail or something.  There was a large jagged hole in the floor of the trailer a few feet above the rear tires.  It was just big enough for a large man to squeeze up through and the tires and chassis frame acted like a ladder of sorts.  Inside was warm and dry.  There was a pallet made of sheet after sheet of cardboard that the man must have taken from the GTE Directories plant next door.  He had even gotten one of those fancy cardboard chest of drawers from the nearby Thrifty Discount.  He even left a small transistor radio. All that it needed was a 9 volt battery. This place was the Taj Mahal compared to the Mission.  It was an incredibly strange homecoming as I emptied the contents of my pack onto the blankets and stolen pillows and placed my clothes and other items into the drawers and set up housekeeping in my new "apartment."   That weekend I took the bus up to north Clearwater and visited my father.  We watched the movie Das Boot on cable before going to bed.  I did not speak to my father about my living situation.  My father did not have a clue.  I don't think he ever did.  I was pretty happy and content with the new place, and I actually opened a bank account due to all the money that I was saving.  Then one Saturday I come home from work and the trailer was gone.  They had all been towed off just like that. It turned out that the city needed the lot for parking so that a bunch of people could poke at the ground of the new baseball stadium with stupid plastic shovels for a "Groundbreaking Ceremony."  (It would be another 10 years before any baseball games were played there.) I decided to pay a visit to my Grandfather simply tell him the truth.  He was very understanding and handled the fact that I was homeless very well.  I did not want to impose on his own house, so we set off building a small apartment in the attic of a small house that he owned and rented out.  What came after that was the period of my greatest life changes.  Being able to stand on my own two feet and survive by my wits and having family that will lend a hand rather a hand out are some of MY favorite things.  I am sorry if this story was long in the telling, but how else could it get out?

[ This Message was edited by: 85 Day Jerk on 2003-04-08 20:21 ]

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Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 08, 2003, 11:05:00 PM

What a coincidence Julie Andrew's sang that cheezy song in The Sound of Music. That was during the Holocaust in the movie...

BB- HOLY PROGRAM BATMAN! Does that make Julie Andrews a Nazi?
BM- Chill honey bunny. Here light this...
BB- cough! Maybe Julie Andrews is a nazi...
BM- Dude, bat bitch, you're talkin about Mary Poppins.
BB-Mary Poppins is a nazi?
BM-Never mind...!

Pretty comical huh?

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Froderik on April 08, 2003, 11:29:00 PM

People who are there for me, without being judgemental, are definitely up there on my list.

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Antigen on April 09, 2003, 01:15:00 AM

On 2003-04-08 19:17:00, Morli wrote: "Now I'm program?

No, not at all. In the real world, it's perfectly normal and helpful when people get fractious to say "Ok, let's talk about something pleasant." That it reminded Carmel of the "Let's have a song" brain warp and that I keyed right in on that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I clicked into this link hoping to find some warped humor by 85DayJerk. Normally, I just skip this kind of thread. Not that I think you should or that you shouldn't start them. Just that they don't do much for me. And, now that Carmel mentions it, that's probably got a lot to do with it.

On 2003-04-08 19:17:00, Morli wrote: Look, I don't think of everything in life in terms of "Straight." . . . I'm not a fucking "Straightling." I'm a person searching.

Me either. But some things haunt me. I didn't mean to be insulting or imply that you should not say what you want. Really, I don't think Carmel did either. I think she was just mentioning it. Have you ever been talking with another Program person when Straight song comes on the radio or something and just go "Oh... creepy!"?

On 2003-04-08 19:17:00, Morli wrote:  I like the fucking movie, and I sat there, staring out the window first thing this morning thinking, "What things do I like... It is raining today. Rain is nice. And that rain turned into snow. No shit, it is snowing here.

I know! Weird, huh? It's not snowing here, but it was close. I keep telling my daughter that she's Perciphone and everyone here is anxious for her to come up out of Hades so that Spring can come.

On 2003-04-08 19:17:00, Morli wrote: So at first you think, this is cheezy, but then you prioritize,  take a bong hit Ginger? what are my most, what are the least. Getting to know you , and your interests. Taking a moment to think about what is good in your life not your ?Straight Life.?

Please knock it off, awright? It seems there have been some rumors floating around that I'm some kind of strung out stoner. Don't believe everything you hear.

Again, I think you're blowing this way out of preportion. Just chill and please try not to get nasty. I know you probably mean nothing by that. But I'm sitting on the edge of Apalachia and some people have been throwing around fairly credible threats of using the anonymous snitch hotlines to get revenge on others around here. And don't think that just because I haven't got any pot means that I have nothing to worry about. They tend to shoot first and ask questions later. So please be careful which rumors you believe and spread.

On 2003-04-08 19:17:00, Morli wrote: It?s starting a topic about something besides bickering. It might be a little gay, but who cares? So are fucking Care Bears, but they are just so frikkin? cute!   I?d call it ?chick stuff? before I?d call it ?Straight like.?   Are we only allowed to talk about  SRI?  (((We are not in Straight anymore))) why do some of you reference it in a blaming or negetive context when you hear something you don?t like?

Oh, come on now. You're posting in a forum called "Straight, Inc. Survivors" and you're surprised that another poster mentions something about Straight?

The fatal pedagogical error is to throw answers, like stones, at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions.

                               
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 09, 2003, 01:49:00 AM

On 2003-04-08 22:15:00, Antigen wrote: Oh, come on now. You're posting in a forum called "Straight, Inc. Survivors" and you're surprised that another poster mentions something about Straight?

No no no. I was just trying to make a point.

On 2003-04-08 22:15:00, Antigen wrote:, I don't think Carmel did either. I think she was just mentioning it.

Time will tell.

On 2003-04-08 22:15:00, Antigen wrote:Please knock it off, awright?

No problem, just playing.

I'm listening and I hear you. I agree there's a definate time to just let things go. Thanks-
Morli

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ClayL on April 09, 2003, 09:48:00 AM

I was once in the Frank Church Wilderness area in Idaho hunting elk. It was butt cold around 11 degrees. I was sitting on a bluff about 1000 feet above this mountain lake. Down in the valley there was this bull elk bugling and on the mountain behind me there was a wolf howling at the moon. I was watching the sun set over the Rockies. There were no other sounds but these and this was was about the most peaceful place I have ever been in. I don't think I have ever been more tired in my life.

CL

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2003, 02:11:00 PM

On 2003-04-08 22:49:00, Morli wrote: I'm listening and I hear you. I agree there's a definate time to just let things go. Thanks- Morli

Thanks =)

Title: my favorite things
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2003, 03:12:00 PM

office supply stores..
newborn kittens...
getting caught in the rain without an umbrella...
ripe tomatoes...
xyla blue rackers.....
the sound a tiny pebble makes when you throw it in water.....
silence... ::ftard::

Title: my favorite things
Post by: ehm on April 09, 2003, 03:36:00 PM

On 2003-04-08 19:45:00, 85 Day Jerk wrote:

Being able to stand on my own two feet and survive by my wits and having family that will lend a hand rather a hand out are some of MY favorite things. I am sorry if this story was long in the telling, but how else could it get out?

You said it man.