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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Antigen on January 17, 2007, 08:24:39 PM
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Exclusive: New York State Acts to End Abuses at Elan School (6 comments )
READ MORE: Maine, Poland, Michael Skakel
The Elan School in Poland, Maine is notorious for allegedly forcibly extracting a murder confession from Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel. According to witnesses, it happened in the late 70's, during a "therapy session" in which he was forced to box fresh opponents while being verbally humiliated until he admitted the crime. But such abuse didn't stop in the 70's: incredibly, the school used "the ring" procedure until at least 2000 with impunity.
During its three-decades-plus history, Elan has repeatedly been accused of human rights violations and severe child abuse. All that time, state regulators somehow failed to corroborate dozens of horrifying accounts of maltreatment, which sometimes came in the form of sworn courtroom testimony.
But following an investigation spurred by my reporting for a recent New York Times op-ed, the New York State Department of Education (NYSED) has written to Elan, stating that it has "compliance issues" with the state's regulations. New York is involved because it uses taxpayer money to send emotionally disturbed and learning disabled children to the school, having approved it as an "emergency placement" for such teens.
According to a letter from New York to Elan released to me today by NYSED, the "compliance issues" include "students restraining other students," excessive use of isolation as punishment, "sleep deprivation" and "students 'counseling' other students and using coercive and confrontational language, which includes yelling and swearing." The letter also notes that Elan isn't providing the required number of hours of classroom instruction for NY students and that students are not qualified as counselors.
In other words, just as former students have claimed for decades, Elan uses abusive, degrading and violent tactics that have long been discredited as therapy even for the hardcore heroin addicts to which they were originally applied and which have no place in the education of the learning disabled or mentally ill or anyone else for that matter.
If Elan doesn't begin using qualified counselors to run therapy groups, bar students from disciplining each other, stop making them stay up all night to guard each other, stop using lengthy periods of isolation as punishment and stop making students restrain each other-- as well as adjust its entire education program to meet state requirements--- within a week, New York will no longer allow students to attend. A copy of the letter has also been sent to Maine education officials.
Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for this senseless relic. I also want to thank the brave students who were willing to talk with me and with state officials in order to help put an end to the abuse of their peers. We now know what works to help kids with addictions, with learning disabilities, with psychiatric problems and behavior issues. It's not abuse, but empathy and respect.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/)
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One State of out 50!! fuck yea. I found an old pop n' structure (remember that one... haha) and most of elan's students during my time came from NY, NJ, Con., and Mass. Thats a good chunk of their business, and this pleases me.
Fuck all the bullshit on this site, I don't even hate elan or anything, I just think it should disappear. The only way to attack elan is the attack their money, and the GREAT state if New York has made an impact.
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My girlfriend is sexy :)
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Jast takes so long to blow her up
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"New York is involved because it uses taxpayer money to send emotionally disturbed and learning disabled children to the school, having approved it as an "emergency placement" for such teens."
It was these kids that collected the most abuse IMO. Especially the emotionally disturbed. Phil W was sent there because he witnessed his mom being shot by his dad and became a ward of the state. How do you figure a boxing ring is going to straighten him out?
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Congratulations, ladies and gentlemen, on finally hosting one non-fucked up thread!
To top it off, it's actually good news, too.
Sometimes, we New Yorkers can take pride in the actions of our state government.
First they ('they' being Eliot Spitzer) knocked the Academy at Ivy Ridge out of the frame and ruled AIR to be a 'behavior modification center,' not a school (a HUGE precedent in the legal fight against these shit-holes), and now they FINALLY stop sending these poor kids to be abused at Elan (I can understand the Elan program, as I worked at Daytop and Elan is a Daytop spin-off, complete down to the terminology).
For fuck's sake, it took long enough, but now it's finally done.
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like I said, one down, forty-nine to go
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"Sometimes we New Yorkers can take pride in the actions of our state government"
Thanks for reminding me why I moved out of that shit hole to the tranquility of Maine. Now I'm neither a supporter of Elan or a follower of this Maia character but I did see something of interest in the blog comments that should be looked into if true.
"But now who will investigate NYSED for its recent amendments that permit corporal punishment of disabled children under the guise of "aversive interventions" -- interventions for which there is no research support, interventions which violate human rights treatises, and interventions which fly in the face of federal protections for developmentally disabled youth?"
Yup kinda sounds like the NYSED should clean up it's own act before telling other states to clean up theirs.
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"Sometimes we New Yorkers can take pride in the actions of our state government"
Thanks for reminding me why I moved out of that shit hole to the tranquility of Maine. Now I'm neither a supporter of Elan or a follower of this Maia character but I did see something of interest in the blog comments that should be looked into if true.
"But now who will investigate NYSED for its recent amendments that permit corporal punishment of disabled children under the guise of "aversive interventions" -- interventions for which there is no research support, interventions which violate human rights treatises, and interventions which fly in the face of federal protections for developmentally disabled youth?"
Yup kinda sounds like the NYSED should clean up it's own act before telling other states to clean up theirs.
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Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for this senseless relic. I also want to thank the brave students who were willing to talk with me and with state officials in order to help put an end to the abuse of their peers. We now know what works to help kids with addictions, with learning disabilities, with psychiatric problems and behavior issues. It's not abuse, but empathy and respect.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/)
Perhaps now some healing can begin? Let's stop with the "abuse of [our] peers"...
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Maia
I did read some of your postings and what followed (usually the same crud here) I commend you for your efforts.I thank you for exposing some truth to the circus that was the Skakel trial.Even if they dont abuse children the way they did in my day. They should be investigated for a number of decietful and un lawful business practices that I would bet still take place today.They have had years to perfect their deceptive practices.I spoke with and traded emails with a number of officials in the Dept of Education in Me.
It was like a hush hush,of who's who.Its my belief that alot (I mean alot) of money changes hands to keep Sharon in her Mercedes.
Ill gotten gains have a funny way of being found out,if one knows where to look.I hope the IRS comes a calling. If we got 500 parents to bring all of their bills from Elan to one place to be sorted out,I can promise,the inconsistancies would entertain Uncle Sam's tax men for weeks.Just some thoughts and a heartfelt thank you
The Real Art
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I just want you to know how much I appreciate you standing up for all of us that suffered at Elan. We were all stripped of our self respect and dignity and made to feel helpless at the hands of the under educated and over zealous staff at The Elan School.
I wish that I had the strength to lead this fight myself but it is only recently that I have found the strength to confront the reality of my past.
I am sure that I speak for all of us when I say thank you for fighting our fight... you will never know how much this means to us.
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Holy crap! Somebody asked me earlier today what was up w/ Elan. I figured I'd look later and find another massive flood attack or some such. Something's not right here! You guys feeling ok?
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Holy crap! Somebody asked me earlier today what was up w/ Elan. I figured I'd look later and find another massive flood attack or some such. Something's not right here! You guys feeling ok?
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Maybe you could change your insulting intro to the Elan threads please.It seems Dave,Nazi and whomever else he has pretended to be has taken a leave of absense.Funny what losing the head troll has done to your site.It has made it worth attending and participating in.
Not that anyone has ever said that would happen :roll:
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He's still around. He was calling Felice a cu## yesterday.
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Hi-yuh hi-yuh hi-yuh
Me suh cunning linguist ;)
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Umm, Art?
Felice?
Ginger?
I have a question for you.
With your knowledge and following of the Skakel proceedings and the inside scoops on this and other sites that plague the net, why havnt any of you commented on the twist in the story?
Skakel was never beaten into submission. He wasnt coerced to confess as Miai 's story suggests. Skakel was forced to RECANT!
He told a few other students that he had knowledge of or participated in a murder. Its still questioned if he actually suggested Martha Moxley or not but the fact is, he spoke of it to create a bad-boy image among other students.
Ricci and Davidson had one choice really. To get Skakel to recant. To beat a withdrawal out of him and thats exactly what they did.
Elan didnt beat a confession out of Skakel, they coerced him to recant and admit that what he had said was a lie.
NY journalism at its finest.
Hate to be a buzzkill to all those who think Elan is going to vanish as a result of a NY state inquiry but heres a few points to suggest otherwise.
First, NY isnt exactly qualified to demand changes to the curriculum at a State licensed and monitored facility outside of NY. The Maine board of education isnt in the dark when it comes to Elan and those kids are not exactly residents of NY, they are residents of Maine which may only prove to complicate matters of a NY list of "demands" Does Miai, or anyone else here think that NY has had no knowledge of how Elan operates in the 30 years it has been sending children there?
Duh.
Second. Elan attorneys will certainly extend the time it takes for anything to result from NY's letter if any results are even realized while those NY kids in Elan (if any) are not going anywhere.
Third, NY's letter is one of dozens like it, that have resulted in no significant changes to Elans program functions.
TheRealDoug
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I have no knowlege of Mike "recanting"and we lived in the same dormroom for about a year. In addition i dont recall him admitting to anything and he was tortured for days at a time. I dont know where your statements come from. I dont claim to hold any gospel truths about what someone may or may not have done.Personally I dont think he did it.
As far as Elan goes. Those responsible for collecting money for the torture of kids will all burn.The are experts at hiding,manipulating,and are used to getting away with it.Have paid out god knows how much $$ to save their asses.
I remember every "inspection/walk-thru" was pre-arranged so far in advance the criminals had time to sanatize a house and make us into one big,happy family or else.I saw this 5-6 times during my stay.People with nothing to hide dont do this.
I do howeer agree with you that one letter from someone in government gives me a nice warm, fuzzy.It means virtually nothing !
I personally spoke with a lady in Maine's Dept of Ed. She could of cared less.Still have the emails.
I am a believer of something Joe used to say."It all comes out in the wash" I actually grew to like him in a strange,drug induced kinda way. Was truly a larger than life person that I socialized with a few times. I think that he knew then,that this Elan scam couldnt be hidden forever.Though I remain suprised that it still functions.Their day is coming and Sharon will now be the one holding the bag for the insanity that 30 years of kids had to endure.Whether in a courtroom,or in front of god.
Nice to see you Doug
The Real Art
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He's still around. He was calling Felice a cu## yesterday.
Of course he is.He is however not getting the attention he or his brother Andy are used to getting. I think the message is clear. Members of the human race only. Others to the back of the bus !
The Real Art
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I coulda lived without the fanciful conjecture but tell me you never heard of (or possibly witnessed) the signs Micheal wore that said something to the likes of "Ask me why I killed [Martha Moxley]"
They were meant to mock Skakels claim.
Krannick told me in an email that he heard Skakel talk about the Murder.
Greg Coleman testified that Micheal told him he murdered someone and later took it back and said he lied.
His testimony was that Skakel bragged that he killed someone, but then withdrew the claim when confronted. Colemans testimony had a lot to do with the conviction. With no physical evidence other than the pieces of golf club that belongs to his mother... what else was there aside from the Kennedy name being synonymous with the word "cover-up"
Its all really irrelevant anyway, Im just surprised that nobody said anything about the twist in Maia's story. Micheal never confessed as a result of the ring or other coercing and theres no source out there to suggest he did....he was forced to say that what he told Krannick and or Coleman was a lie.
Beyond that, if Skakel copped to killing Martha in groups and/or the ring, it would have leaked and LE would have been there to get him.
No doubt Davidson would have contacted authorities before a leak. Ricci just turned things around and beat a retraction out of Skakel and everyone else blew it off as a lie. A genius plan really. Ricci could sell cookies to a girl scout.
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Wow,two completely opposite accounts. Which one is true? I sure the fuck don't know. Joe could probably sell coke to girl scouts.
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Thank you for starting the long process that will hopefully end in all of us celebrating the day when the state of Maine puts the padlock on the doors of Elan 1! I can't wait to see all of them houses cleared out for good and hopefully each state that has a kid in Elan at that time will actually think before they send the kid to another placement.
Elan is an easy out for these states. No where else to put a "bad" kid? Send em to Elan! They will hold them for atleast 36 months if need be. I pity the ones I did see there for 36 months!
Elan and the people who support Elan did a bang up job of screwin lifes up. The damage may of been obvious from the get go or the damage may not of surfaced for many years whatever the damage done to us students needs to be recognized. It will not "cure" anyones trauma but it will be a hudge relief to see our issues with Elan addressed and most importantly acknowledged once and for all.
We did not lie. We did not tell stories for attention or because we were mad at our parents or Elans staff. We told the truth about how we were treated and how we saw others treated.
No matter how old we were then or are now it will be so awesome to know our efforts to expose the insanity of Elan were not in vain.
I hope that those who passed on will look down upon the earth on the day that Elan is served its eviction papers and be able to smile knowing that justice has been served.
Like I have said before that Elan ignored the
needs of the students who were OBVIOUSLY mentally ill, who were obviously victims of severe abuse in any shape or form, who were obviously suffering from some form of substance abuse/eating disorder/self mutilation disorder, ect.
There were circumstances that caused every kid to "act out" and to be sent to Elan. Some were straight up brats. All they needed was to be grounded and have their allowence taken away from them. I enjoyed seein them types knocked down a peg or two. It was funny to see them be told "NO"! I actually smiled a true smile on those days :)
It PISSED me off to see some of these young assed kids with fresh bruises on them from the last beatin some drunk assed parent gave them be crucified for not wanting to scream in an encounter group or drop a slip or participate in the feeling portion of a GM.
HELLO ASSHOLES this kid needs some serious therapy with a professional that will help ease their pain and validate them as a human being not as a punching bag.
Them recovered junkies.whores AKA staff in Elan were jokes and freaks who deserve every bad thing in life that has come to them and is still waiting to come to them.
Kharma is a BITCH.... That means you SHARON!
Why in God's good name did she EVER keep Elan up and running after her miserable excuse for a human being died?!
Has she no heart beating in her body? was it buried with Joe's black shriveled up one?
Thank You! You deserve only the best for your efforts!
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Oh fuckin shut up and get over it.
Im sure if you were counting the money youd have opened three more Elans.
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Hi Doug,how are you? Your account makes more sense to me. If it was the other way around,he should not be getting butt-raped.
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Oh fuckin shut up and get over it.
Im sure if you were counting the money youd have opened three more Elans.
Not everyone is ruled by money re-re. Some might take said money and do something productive with it. Obviously Elan did not work for such a negative foul mouthed little hooligan such as yourself. I would not waste more hard earned money on trying to rehabilitate a re-re such as yourself. You my little friend are not worth time nor money. Besides states have FREE mental health help for poor people as seriously disturbed as you appear to be. Call 211 Infoline and BEG for help son it must be really hard trying to relate to people in todays society with such a negative self image. I know you feel like the world let you down and we all owe you something but with anti-psychotic's and a few months of intensive inpatient therapy schizophrenia is manageable.
I am sorry the genetic gene pool let you down. To bad you can't sue your parents chromosomes. Or can you????[/color]
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Why is this Maia vs. Kruglik? Kruglik just works there as a Ricci/Terry slave.
Maia nice job.
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I am sorry the genetic gene pool let you down. To bad you can't sue your parents chromosomes. Or can you????
I am afraid someone has pee'd in their gene pools!
:rofl: :nworthy: ::cheers:: ::ftard:: :smokin:
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Oh fuckin shut up and get over it.
Im sure if you were counting the money youd have opened three more Elans.
Not everyone is ruled by money re-re. Some might take said money and do something productive with it. Obviously Elan did not work for such a negative foul mouthed little hooligan such as yourself. I would not waste more hard earned money on trying to rehabilitate a re-re such as yourself. You my little friend are not worth time nor money. Besides states have FREE mental health help for poor people as seriously disturbed as you appear to be. Call 211 Infoline and BEG for help son it must be really hard trying to relate to people in todays society with such a negative self image. I know you feel like the world let you down and we all owe you something but with anti-psychotic's and a few months of intensive inpatient therapy schizophrenia is manageable.
I am sorry the genetic gene pool let you down. To bad you can't sue your parents chromosomes. Or can you????[/color]
Did someone say schizophrenia ???
"Foul mouthed hooligan"
Last time I heard that my grandmother was brushing my teeth with a bar of ivory soap.
Calm thyself child. Its only a website. If you spilled too many beans on the board. Dont worry, nobody really cares but you.
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Oh fuckin shut up and get over it.
Im sure if you were counting the money youd have opened three more Elans.
Not everyone is ruled by money re-re. Some might take said money and do something productive with it. Obviously Elan did not work for such a negative foul mouthed little hooligan such as yourself. I would not waste more hard earned money on trying to rehabilitate a re-re such as yourself. You my little friend are not worth time nor money. Besides states have FREE mental health help for poor people as seriously disturbed as you appear to be. Call 211 Infoline and BEG for help son it must be really hard trying to relate to people in todays society with such a negative self image. I know you feel like the world let you down and we all owe you something but with anti-psychotic's and a few months of intensive inpatient therapy schizophrenia is manageable.
I am sorry the genetic gene pool let you down. To bad you can't sue your parents chromosomes. Or can you????[/color]
Did someone say schizophrenia ???
"Foul mouthed hooligan"
Last time I heard that my grandmother was brushing my teeth with a bar of ivory soap.
Calm thyself child. Its only a website. If you spilled too many beans on the board. Dont worry, nobody really cares but you.
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How sad. Art can't get over anything and move on with his life.
All this idiot knows how to do is cry over spilt make that happened 30 years ago. I would tell you to grow up, but seeing how your life has peaked long ago there is no chance in hell for you.
Sharon and Joe really messed with your head huh? Shows how weak minded you really are.
Funny thing is, they still own you. :rofl:
Even more funny, we all own you. :rofl: :rofl:
Poor Arthur, no one cares about him. :cry2: :cry2:
Your obession with this site is unbelievable. You must come to this site at least 6 x's a day. Ginger should charge you rent. You have no fucking life at all.
:cry2: :cry2: Sharon and Joe brainwashed me :cry2: :cry2: I can't live a productive life because of Sharon and Joe. :cry2: :cry2:
I can only imagine in the short distant future once you reach senior citizen status, how much more senile you will become.
Act your age for Christs sake! Move on with ???? Get a life first then you can move on. Fucking procrastinator..
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How sad. Art can't get over anything and move on with his life.
All this idiot knows how to do is cry over spilt make that happened 30 years ago. I would tell you to grow up, but seeing how your life has peaked long ago there is no chance in hell for you.
Sharon and Joe really messed with your head huh? Shows how weak minded you really are.
Funny thing is, they still own you. :rofl:
Even more funny, we all own you. :rofl: :rofl:
Poor Arthur, no one cares about him. :cry2: :cry2:
Your obession with this site is unbelievable. You must come to this site at least 6 x's a day. Ginger should charge you rent. You have no fucking life at all.
:cry2: :cry2: Sharon and Joe brainwashed me :cry2: :cry2: I can't live a productive life because of Sharon and Joe. :cry2: :cry2:
I can only imagine in the short distant future once you reach senior citizen status, how much more senile you will become.
Act your age for Christs sake! Move on with ???? Get a life first then you can move on. Fucking procrastinator..
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spilt make ?
Thats what happens when you too fucked up to pay attention
crack kills
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Crack isn't nearly as lethal as Marty Kruglik or Kickapoo.
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I could care less about making typing mistakes, I'm not being graded on it and it certainly has no bearing of consequence of my life.
I see you like to find things to pick at, you are scavenger, or for better lack of a word. A Vulture.
Really sad and repulsive life that you live Artmangina. You can't even maintain a relationship with someone. Artmangina is the one who failed life.
The idiot can't cope with easy things, and has to come to this site and lie about himself day in and out.
Punch away your holes Troll, you are and forevermore will always be a ( N-O-B-O-D-Y).
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Obvioiusly you care enough to send your very best of bullshit
You are a very sick little boy,that badly needs his ass whooped.
I wouldnt waste the effort .. but if you show up here,I'm sure we could figure something out.
Take your meds punk,take the whole bottle and wash it down with some draino
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You all seem to spend a lot of time hating the wrong people from the Elan School.... The real demons are Tanya, Linda and Clare(in that order). The three most self righteous, obviously over compensating control freaks on the face of the earth. I think tortured fatherless childhoods led to teenage years spent looking for love in the arms of every man that came their way and finally brought them to a career in torturing young women in captivity. They made personal missions of crushing the spirit of every young girl they got their paws on and took pleasure in every perverse second of it
Lets call it like it is and leave all this back and forth homo erotic crap for the chat rooms
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Oh fuckin shut up and get over it.
Im sure if you were counting the money youd have opened three more Elans.
Not everyone is ruled by money re-re. Some might take said money and do something productive with it. Obviously Elan did not work for such a negative foul mouthed little hooligan such as yourself. I would not waste more hard earned money on trying to rehabilitate a re-re such as yourself. You my little friend are not worth time nor money. Besides states have FREE mental health help for poor people as seriously disturbed as you appear to be. Call 211 Infoline and BEG for help son it must be really hard trying to relate to people in todays society with such a negative self image. I know you feel like the world let you down and we all owe you something but with anti-psychotic's and a few months of intensive inpatient therapy schizophrenia is manageable.
I am sorry the genetic gene pool let you down. To bad you can't sue your parents chromosomes. Or can you????[/color]
Did someone say schizophrenia ???
"Foul mouthed hooligan"
Last time I heard that my grandmother was brushing my teeth with a bar of ivory soap.
Calm thyself child. Its only a website. If you spilled too many beans on the board. Dont worry, nobody really cares but you.
When I was in prison I'd be damned lucky to find someone that brushed their teeth. Ivory soap would of helped those shit breathed inmates.
They give the new inmates a small assed sample size of clear toothpaste that had no minty fresh taste to it cuz it was made outta some sugar type shit you could taste. Since when did non-alcoholic toothpaste ever work in killing bad breath germs?! Some people had RANK breath till they could cop some real toothpaste.
I had a cool roomie that hooked me up till my bank roll hit the books. Atleast I had some "Cinnamon Rush Crest". They should of used freakin general purpose cleaners if it meant I'd have fresh breath! PineSol or somethin.
Them girls also had more facial hair than Abraham Lincoln! They were actually taken to the medical unit 1x a day to get their faces shaved.
One chick had about 20 black thick hairs on each side of her chin. She was trying to grow that shit into some sorta goatee for her "wife". Her "wife" was actually HOT. I guess them girls will go for any "stud" if it looks like a man, walks and talks like a man it is better than nothin till they are released.