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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: egypt has pyramids on January 10, 2007, 04:47:36 PM
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Sally Jesse Raphael w/Larry King
KING: Yes. How young do you have them?
RAPHAEL: I won't...
KING: How young do we get on television?
RAPHAEL: A lot of talk shows get very, very young.
KING: Ten?
RAPHAEL: Younger.
KING: Younger than 10?
RAPHAEL: We -- I've seen places where they're sent to boot camp younger than 10 years of age. I can't do it -- I can't.
KING: What's your age to draw the line?
RAPHAEL: To me, you have to be a teenager. You really do. Because, I think a teenager is aware of what they're doing, and I think that there are children who just don't know what they're doing.
KING: Are there shows where you say to yourself, I'm a little over the line today. we've gone too deep into...
RAPHAEL: Yes, and I cut it out in the tape.
KING: You do?
RAPHAEL: Yes, yes, if something -- you see, I can't control -- if somebody goes to hit somebody or something happens or somebody gives somebody a passionate kiss, but I can take it out of the tape. And I do. And we will.
KING: How about subject matter? Is it hard to come up with these...
RAPHAEL: Well, as I said, what people want to hear today...
KING: Is?
RAPHAEL: ... is two things. They want to hear teenagers, everything and anything to do with teens: teen paternity tests, teen boot camp. Because we're...
KING: Teen sex, teen...
RAPHAEL: Yes, because we're afraid of them. And the other thing they want is punishment. That's why the boot camp works. You take bad people and you punish them. That's why the judge shows work. You punish them. Americans desperately want to see people punished. There's a certain thing about us that -- and we want the punishment to be very strong and right now.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... kl.00.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0005/12/lkl.00.html)
The second type of talk show is Sally Jessy Raphael, which although has some similar topics like Jerry Springer, this show mainly has to do with teenagers, especially teens that act out against their mothers.
Although Sally deals mainly with "teen issues", she has been known for her own creative rendition of the American Gladiators on her show. She focuses on redeeming these brats into respectable young adults, with the help of a greatly annoying red head therapist! Needless to say, it usually doesn't work!
Sally also likes to send these teenagers that drop out of school, get in trouble with the law and are mean to their mothers to boot camp! So, for future reference, if you are a teenager going on Sally, be prepared to be sent to boot camp! It's a given!
A typical Sally show consists of an overweight 12 year old girl wearing a midriff shirt strutting out and acting as if she is "Miss Thang." She's got a rap sheet longer than her ratty and knotty hair and an attitude worse than her make-up job! Her mother will be sitting next to her crying her poor head off because either she can't handle her daughter anymore or she can't believe she brought that kind of child into the world.
After this girl swears up a storm to the audience and continues to make her mother cry, Sally blows her lid. And you don't want that to happen! She usually gets two inches away from the girl's face and lets her know that her behavior is totally unacceptable. During this show of over heated emotion, Sally looks like she is having a stroke from all the commotion, and that's when the perky red-headed Gilda psychologist prances out! She is just about annoying with her expertise and her perfect ways as she is "gettin jiggy wit it" with her dancing performances she does while she talks to the guests and audience. As she goes through these antics, it reminds me of the introduction of guests on the Jerry Springer show. Just say your piece and move on. Why does everything on talk shows require a weird move to help convey the message?
Then the best and most "unexpected" part happens! After Gilda's act is over, a Marine Sergeant walks out and reads off the names of all the teenagers and they are sent off to boot camp for 8 weeks. Then the audience chants " Sally" and the infamous number you can call pops up on screen so all the sophisticated people of the world can come on the show!
Sally Jessy Raphael and Jerry Springer provide examples of what our world is like and will be like if people don't get educated. I beg you, go to school!
http://www.leland.k12.mi.us/roni99.htm (http://www.leland.k12.mi.us/roni99.htm)
Worst of all, Maury began to focus on children. Today, almost every episode of the show deals with the 18-and-younger crowd: Troubled kids are sent to boot camp. Teens who dress "inappropriately" are shoved into Wal-Mart clothes. If an adult takes the stage, chances are there's a crying child in the green room, revealed to the entire audience on a large television screen. (If not, the adult is probably a fire eater or a mail-order bride.)
Not only are these schemes pathetic, but they're quickly growing tired. Each show I watched during my illness focused on teen mothers who were demanding paternity tests ? and most of them had been on the show at least three times before, unsuccessfully predicting the fathers of their child. As the women cry, Maury masquerades as some sort of therapist, simultaneously consoling them and inviting them on the show again.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/ ... -candy.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/candy/2002/2002-03-13-candy.htm)
Dont forget Ricki Lake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaGWeEFIZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaGWeEFIZM)
At least Montel finally apologized for his actions.
Has the TV finally turned the program parent mind to mush? Has this become reality now? It would seem so...
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RAPHAEL: Yes, because we're afraid of them. And the other thing they want is punishment. That's why the boot camp works. You take bad people and you punish them. That's why the judge shows work. You punish them. Americans desperately want to see people punished. There's a certain thing about us that -- and we want the punishment to be very strong and right now.
Yeah she sucks. She looks like a chattering skull with glasses on.
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Yeah, nother great example of Program-like thinking seeping into common culture. When I first watched daytime talk, it just grossed me out. Reminded me of all the hours and days of having to listen to private shit I never wanted to hear in just the same way. I don't understand, for the life of my, why anybody would voluntarily engage in this sort of thing. It's obscene!
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RAPHAEL: Yes, because we're afraid of them. And the other thing they want is punishment. That's why the boot camp works. You take bad people and you punish them. That's why the judge shows work. You punish them. Americans desperately want to see people punished. There's a certain thing about us that -- and we want the punishment to be very strong and right now.
yowch. sounds like a description of my momma.
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Yeah, nother great example of Program-like thinking seeping into common culture. When I first watched daytime talk, it just grossed me out. Reminded me of all the hours and days of having to listen to private shit I never wanted to hear in just the same way. I don't understand, for the life of my, why anybody would voluntarily engage in this sort of thing. It's obscene!
I know/knew the feeling....
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"Whut evah... I'll do what I want!" - Cartman
I would really like to see that Montel episode where he realizes how he fucked up. Unfortunately, I'm on dial up, and don't torrent, but if anyone can find it seeded, or knows the name of the episode, let me know. I can ask my friend to download it for me.
I was on a talk show once, but it was a local one (thank god), and they practically begged me to be on, since their plan A bailed. I also wanted to fuck the producer, so I figured this would curry his favor. (That's how they got my number to begin with, actually.)
It was silly. That obnoxious faggot Bobby Trendy was on it, too, self-absorbed bitch that he is.
Obviously, that particular talk show had nothing to do with misbehaving teens, so I have no idea why I'm mentioning it, except to be stupid. ::ftard::
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Does Sally Jesse Still broadcast in the US or is it older material you are refrring to?
It strikes me that the mac Daddy of these media assholes is Dr Phil because he pretends that his show has some basic measure of dignity and people believe him.
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It strikes me that the mac Daddy of these media assholes is Dr Phil because he pretends that his show has some basic measure of dignity and people believe him.
Dr Phil the fraud is a fat, annoying hillbilly who has conned fat load Oprah and housewifes across America with his BS! Dr. Fraud just spouts out stupid redneck advice and the sheeple fall for it hook, line, and sinker. When fat-ass Phil was asked about his own "largeness," the hillbilly said it was because he was "big boned." That gut sure don't look like bones to me...... :rofl:
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Daytime TV is the best reason to go to work I can think of.
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Does Sally Jesse Still broadcast in the US or is it older material you are refrring to?
It strikes me that the mac Daddy of these media assholes is Dr Phil because he pretends that his show has some basic measure of dignity and people believe him.
Yeah youre right these were the popular ones in the mid 90's actually, so the head poobahs are probably changed now. But sadly I dont watch this kind of TV anymore so I don't really know. Is it Dr Phil and Oprah now?? Wouldn't surprise me, i heard about her recent teen confrontation show.
Doest Dr Phil actually refer to a program discussed here or something?
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Yeah, nother great example of Program-like thinking seeping into common culture. When I first watched daytime talk, it just grossed me out. Reminded me of all the hours and days of having to listen to private shit I never wanted to hear in just the same way. I don't understand, for the life of my, why anybody would voluntarily engage in this sort of thing. It's obscene!
When I saw this shit as a kid it left quite the impression on me. Terrified, angry, and a little beside myself.
That shit was withering to merely WATCH, so I would have to change the channel. I still can't deal with it... and Ive seen kids younger than 10 put through that before.
You're quite right. Our culture is being slowly infected with this shit and it sucks! If I ever want to have kids, unless this country is VASTLY different (or I find a good state to live in, there are no federal laws that would fuck my kid up, and states are even allowed to make their own laws anymore) I'm going to leave for Canada or Europe. I'm not going to allow my child to be done to them WORSE than was done to me.
Shit, "challenge day" in public schools down here in Florida!! My little sister ain't gonna cross paths with a facilitator without me standing behind her lining up the sights of a firearm between the fuckers eyes :flame:
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Shit, "challenge day" in public schools down here in Florida!! My little sister ain't gonna cross paths with a facilitator without me standing behind her lining up the sights of a firearm between the fuckers eyes :flame:
Right on, Niles!!! More random acts of violence against these program schmucks! Yes indeed!! It's almost time for the first toke of the day, which is always the best. :smokin:
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Never said I'd shoot him.
Just give him a clear warning.
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Never said I'd shoot him.
Just give him a clear warning.
Aww come on man.... you know you wanna watch that fucker DIE!!!! :rofl:
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Uh, duh?
I just care more about protecting my sister from LGAT than I do about making someone suffer for what he does to people.
an ounce of prevention is a pound of cure...
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Uh, duh?
I just care more about protecting my sister from LGAT than I do about making someone suffer for what he does to people.
an ounce of prevention is a pound of cure...
I hear ya buddy. I'm an Aries, so I tend to be a little on the impulsive side.. POW! POW! POW! :rofl:
Anyway, here's a link about more stuff that will piss you off:
http://www.marijuana.com/420/drug-war-h ... issue.html (http://www.marijuana.com/420/drug-war-headline-news/27970-medical-marijuana-election-issue.html)
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Sagittarius here.
And nah, not so mad, I don't know what I'm missing out on :lol: