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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: METALGOD8 on April 05, 2003, 05:23:00 PM

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: METALGOD8 on April 05, 2003, 05:23:00 PM

The following post is a factual account, not a personal attack:

 After reading Leigh Bright's reply to my offer for diplomacy in another topic, where she states that she will use me as her "footstool", I have decided to make a statement in my defense and to announce my amazement and disappointment that a fellow survivor would behave in the manner in which she is behaving.
Before the December 15th Survivor Bonfire here, LEIGH BRIGHT had accepted her invitation to attend. During the previous week, she inquired about some documents that had been donated to us by a former senior staff member and asked if she could make some copies. Being the considerate people that we are, we elected to oblige her request and actually drove them over to her and delivered them personally. Instead of copying them as agreed the same day, she kept them for a few days. On Sunday, December 15th, she mentioned she was sick and would not be attending. We were supposed to have those documents back BEFORE the Bonfire, NOT after. I left a message on her voice mail about having someone else come over on their way down to the Bonfire, but that call was never returned. She knew she was supposed to have them back before the Bonfire. Believing that I was being impatient etc..., she became enraged at me and sent an email here to my house threatening to shove those documents up my ass. Furthermore, upon further investigation, some of these documents were missing upon their return, which, by the way, was made by special trip up to her place to get them. Other than having a police escort to her residence to retrieve these missing documents, we have little recourse to recover them. (I am not the "call the cops" type of person though, so we have gone along the whole time being quiet about it.) In the meantime, we have been working with survivors, groups, businesses, senators, diplomats, teachers, lawyers, doctors, therapists, etc etc in our quest for the reform of drug treatment policies here in this country. NOT ONE of these people etc... with the exception of LEIGH BRIGHT, has made this much  effort to attack and compromise this venture. She has apparently made it a goal in her life now to attack again and spew forth vindictive threats. I do not want to make this into more than what it is, however, regardless of what people's impressions of LEIGH BRIGHT are, I think that they should take a second look at them. According to Webster's dictionary and common sense, I have never slandered LEIGH BRIGHT. I do not have to. I do not want to, I never want to slander anybody. There are several witnesses to her activities regarding this situation. My statements regarding people and organizations promoting abusive treatment are based on facts. It is when people do things such as LEIGH BRIGHT has done where I run into difficulty avoiding making slanderous type statements. No matter how difficult it is, I do avoid them if at all possible.
I do not know what LEIGH BRIGHT means by a "footstool", and I would hope that her threat  is based on a rant and not some devious plan, but only time can tell.

For the record, permission to use my story and any mention of my name or experience in LEIGH BRIGHT's book has been officially rescinded.
 
I am also formally requesting that LEIGH BRIGHT return any "misplaced" documents that were supplied to her in this Pre-Bonfire arrangement between us as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
MG8 :smokin:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2003, 07:27:00 PM

This topic is nothing but slander.  It is irrelevant to anyone's interests.   When you speak like this about another person that most people reading this don't even know it reflects badly upon you and no one else. Most people can see through this and they won't buy it. Peace.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: METALGOD8 on April 05, 2003, 07:57:00 PM

Slander is defined as:
 A false and damaging utterance.
Considering that the above story is a factual account, it cannot be considered slander.

I will not just ignore people who threaten me with bodily harm, regardless of what others think. If you had been personally assaulted and threatened, am sure you would not just sit there and think nothing of it.
My post was not intended to be "bought" by anyone.

 MG8 :smokin:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2003, 08:08:00 PM

Webster's a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1) : a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2) : defamation of a person by written or representational means (3) : the publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene writings or pictures (4) : the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: JDavid on April 05, 2003, 08:34:00 PM

The documents are relevant to Straight survivors' interests.  Maybe not all survivors, but I guess all the ones who are local veterans of his local Straight.  Even if they're only important to him, he's a Straight survivor; they pertain to Straight, so it is relevant.

"When you speak like this about another person" is irrelevant.  Talking like this could have been avoided by her not bogarting his stuff.  If I have to borrow something to make copies of it, I can either do it right here at my house or go to Kinkos.  I don't hog people's stuff infinitely to the point they are pissed off over it, especially when there was a clear due date, the 15th.

On 2003-04-05 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote: "This topic is nothing but slander.  It is irrelevant to anyone's interests.   When you speak like this about another person that most people reading this don't even know it reflects badly upon you and no one else. Most people can see through this and they won't buy it. Peace.  "

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Froderik on April 05, 2003, 10:30:00 PM

It seems that an apology is owed to Metalgod8.

1 a : a formal justification : DEFENSE b : EXCUSE 2a2 : an admission of error or discourtesy accompanied by an expression of regret

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 12:01:00 AM

Do you honestly think that there is a diplomatic bone in your body? :flame: And truly, get yourself some rage-therapy, Bill; you need it. Incidentally, as a team member of ISAC it really isn't a good idea for you to be publicly slandering the Vice-Chair of SAFETYnet either. In case you are unaware - that's me! :roll:  Besides, if you look at this rationally, after I was alerted to your wife's threat to call the Feds and tell them I was manufacturing illegal drugs in my home (again - character!) I realized you two were the spawns of Satan, and I backed away and left you two fruitcakes alone. And even when you are completely hypocritical on the board - I've remained silent. But apparently, that's not enough for you, is it? But you know what? I'm going to give you one more chance, Bill. Cease and desist and I won't have to take this to a higher authority. The choice is yours, but if I were you, I'd take a tip from Scripture - and CHOOSE the way that is good. Leave me alone, Earnshaw. :razz:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Powerful Attitude on April 06, 2003, 01:50:00 AM

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On 2003-04-05 14:23:00, METALGOD8 wrote:

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I do not know what LEIGH BRIGHT means by a "footstool", and I would hope that her threat  is based on a rant and not some devious plan, but only time can tell.

You will be made a footstool is refering to the time when Jesus Christ the Son of God will return and rule his kingdom.  Jesus and all those who believe he is the Son  of God will put all their enemies under their feet.  "Till his enemies be made his footstool".  (Hebrews 10:13)

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: METALGOD8 on April 06, 2003, 05:08:00 AM

I would like to congratulate you on your appointment to the position of Vice-Chair of SAFETYNET. I had hoped that one day we all could work together on the abusive treatment situation in this country. After reading that last post of yours, I am doubtful that this will happen anytime soon. That is unfortunate.
For the record, I never accused you of stealing. My statements are not a delusion either.
Several people in this world have complimented me on my diplomacy skills, so one negative comment is acceptable, in my book. It will give me something from which to learn. Given the amount of name calling and assaulting that you have done to me, my wife, and ISAC, I doubt very seriously if I am the one that is swaying the minds of those who are lurking here considering funding your work.
I do not read, promote, or otherwise proclaim loyalty to these scriptures you refer to when assaulting me. If you use those scriptures to give you some legitamacy in your attacks, then so be it. There are plenty more that you could choose. The bible is a major compilation of writings.
 I have little to fear from you or whatever you choose to do. In my life, I have had many far worse fearful experiences than this one.
As far as the rumor about your drug manufacturing operation goes, that is your problem, not mine.
I heard about it from someone that said they saw it but, legally speaking, that person's account would be hearsay at this point.
Maybe we should meet and discuss this whole mess in person. Would you be willing to do that?
MG8 :smokin:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on April 06, 2003, 05:44:00 AM

I have been searching for a woman who is vain, one sided, opinionated, and who hides behind the shirt-tails of Jesus.  I stood outside in the hot sun at Billy Sunshines tent revival and lawn mower swap meet all day Saturday, staring at the sky and wait'n fer the ansuh and here it has been all along!!!!  Don't worry Leigh, I clean up real good, and I've had a recent tetanus shot even.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: hedwigfan on April 06, 2003, 09:06:00 AM

Yet another shining example of the beauty of organized religion & its propensity to create discord and paranoia...Hope you two can work this out peacefully.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 10:53:00 AM

Passive aggressive language. Yet another shining example of a "successful" Straight graduate.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 11:14:00 AM

I've been looking for survivors who don't label people, judge people, or ridicule their personal beliefs and faith. I looked on the board for days and days and all I could find were hostile people who were mean or passive aggressive who attacked people en masse. But don't worry, Jerk, it's not really the program, we can turn the computer off and walk away, even. We've been free all along!!!

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: hedwigfan on April 06, 2003, 01:30:00 PM

Actually, there is nothing passive aggressive about that statement. It clearly and succinctly reflects an opinion. We are all entitled to our opinions here, are we not?

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: hedwigfan on April 06, 2003, 01:39:00 PM

Hiding behind a brown paper bag--forthright, or passive aggressive? Hmmmmm. Lighten up a little.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 02:02:00 PM

85 day jerk, I don't hang here often, but i just read that last post and wanted to tell you i love you, you are hilarious!

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 02:29:00 PM

Leigh Bright:

I seriously hope that the above post from you is not a true indication of your writing skills.  What a waste, and with all that "education" behind your name!

If that is the best you have in you, I regret to say I'll wait until your "book" hits the library, then i'll take a free glance.  Why waste a good fifteen bucks right?  :lol:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: LeighBright on April 06, 2003, 06:16:00 PM

You know, instead of feeling jealous or insecure that I have an education and you don't, you could actually do what I did and get a loan and go back to school. Because one thing I learned from pursuing an education was that you can't just look at a situation from your own narrow point of view. Instead, you are taught how to walk completely around a subject and see it from all points of view. In fact, in some classes you had to write two opposing views to the same issue. And by learning to do that, you learn to understand where people are coming from and you finally let go of those constraints and ideas and notions that you carry with you about other people. And then you are more open minded, understanding, and less inclined to automatically judge them without all of the pertinent facts, you know, as you have clearly done here with me. I mean, you haven't read my writing except for this kind of stuff - and yet you've decided to criticize it and decide it's poor writing because of what you assumed was my comment. And why did you say these mean things? Because you don't have an education. Obviously, or you wouldn't have raised it as an issue, no one with one would because they know the struggle they went through to get it. But you know, like I said, you can get one. Obviously you DO want one or you wouldn't be mad that I do, AND that I proudly proclaim it. (However in Bill's case I was establishing liability) - I've been through hell and back in my life and I'm very proud of my degrees, especially since I only had a G.E.D. when I started. It's a damn good feeling to make such an accomplishment and I highly recommend it! It is never too late to get an education! I hope that in the future you learn to take a more open mind to people and not lash out at them because you feel insecure. I'm not any better than you - I set a goal and I achieved it. If I can make it through college - believe me, ANYONE can do it. So go for it! Go get whatever it is you want. You can do it! You can!  :smile:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: pepper53190 on April 06, 2003, 07:37:00 PM

You all are so funny.........you pass out your serinity so freely.  It's such a shame because it is so precious.  and Jerk you ARE truley funny.  Have a super day all.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: METALGOD8 on April 06, 2003, 09:09:00 PM

I have never called the DEA on you LEIGH. Please stop your assaults at once. I asked you very politely if you would be willing to meet with me in person to discuss this situation. What is your problem? For you to continue this barrage of insults, lies, hate, and other total BS just makes our efforts that much harder. At the rate SAFETYNET is going, there may not be a conference for anyone to either attend or miss. In the meantime, continuing the course you, LEIGH BRIGHT are on only makes that possibility that much more realistic. I also hope that you understand all of the responsibilities, ramifications, and possible consequences that are associated with attempting to sabotage the efforts of ISAC, cult survivor organizations, mental health professionals, lawyers, politicians, etc. and all survivors who wish to see the end of abusive treatment in the world.
Please concentrate on your mission statement and do your job. There may still be enough time to salvage whatever is left of SAFETYNET, but that is up to you and the others in that group.
One more note: "I wish you were here, this conference is great... maybe next year you can make it." I heard statements like this from several people who acknowledged missing me and my wife at last year's conference.

MG8 :smokin:

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2003, 10:08:00 PM

Ms. Bright, i beg to differ.

Indeed I do have an eduaction, I simply do not think for the sake of argument I need to throw it out there.  

good day!

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: MyPeacefrog on April 07, 2003, 12:34:00 AM

So, Bright, are you saying I should get a lawyer  for when you slandered my name?

I must also compliment you on your confrontational skills.  Miller Newton would be proud.

-Colleen

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2003, 12:38:00 AM

Alllll we are saying..........is give peace a chance.

some stoned guy

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: LeighBright on April 07, 2003, 10:52:00 AM

But if someone were to slander and libel your name on a website that you use to find persons for the book you've been writing for four years, and that you utilize to introduce other survivors and professionals to, then, yes, you would. And you would also include that you spent six years achieving that education too. You would be just as insistent as me. However, what you wouldn't understand, is why people like you feel the need to jump in on the attack. This is just like being in group, only no-one's called me a slut or a whore YET. BTW -It's not simply for the "sake of argument" that I remind Bill of all I've worked for that his words are destroying. If you had an education, you'd know exactly what I'm doing. Free your mind, and the rest will follow!

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: LeighBright on April 07, 2003, 11:08:00 AM

Do you use your name professionally, Colleen? No you do not. Did you hear me say the thing that you say "slandered your name"? No you did not. Did you EVER consider the source or discuss it with me? No. You are SUPPOSED to be a Christian, Colleen. You shouldn't be jumping in on the attack and you know that.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: MyPeacefrog on April 07, 2003, 11:37:00 AM

I'm suppose to be a christian??  Hmmmm.  Well, I am but for some reason I don't feel the need to throw that around and quote scripture to get everyone to think that I'm something that i'm not.  A sincere person is much bigger to me than a phoney educated one.

-C

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2003, 12:14:00 PM

Nobody's suing anyone. No one's calling any cops with any bogus charges, either. At least I sincerely hope it hasn't come to this!

I wouldn't worry too much about dealing with anyone who would take as fact the rash and heated words posted to these forums.

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2006, 11:36:51 PM

:o  :o  :o

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 03:32:02 PM

WTF

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 05:10:37 PM

Quote from: LeighBright

You know, instead of feeling jealous or insecure that I have an education


LOL   EASY NOW !  L
WILL U PLEASE E ME LEIGH ? BSTEVE0044@YAHOO.COM

- Steve Brown

Title: Leigh Bright
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on October 23, 2006, 05:36:58 PM

I was a-gonna sit back with some smokin herb and read this thread the other night but didn't... :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: Steve you got a ride to the memorial right ??  Yeah, I wanta meet you there.