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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: webdiva on January 04, 2007, 04:01:11 PM
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Ok I added an HTML version so they can be viewed via your web browser... I think that's easier so I've updated the links below.
These are what were known as Straights Position Papers. Their Official position (until they changed their mind and printed a new one) on certain topics. The highlighting was done 20 years ago and by someone who believed what they were reading.
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/SPPs.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/SPPs.htm)
A draft of the proposed plan of actin for PR and fundraisng for Springfield VA, Straight 1984 The word QUOTA and the Bottom line are a bit disturbing but expected
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/PRPlan1984.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/PRPlan1984.htm)
Another document outlining fundraising efforts, Springfield VA Straight. 1984
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/fundraisin1.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/fundraisin1.htm)
edit just added:
pre intake application for parents and a really disturbing memo that was attached.
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm)
he sounds so desparate in his memo almost like he's concerned if he doesn't make his QUOTA he may not have a job. looks like he did though cuz he stuck around far too long.
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I only got program jibberish (pardon the pun) when I accessed the links. I would really like to read what you've come across. Anyway to translate it? Or maybe it's just on my end... but that would be a bit incriminating! :lol:
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hmm do you have adobe acrobat reader? They are PDF documents. You can download it from Adobe's website by going here (http://http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/8.x/8.0/enu/pase30_rdr80_DLM_en_US.exe), it's free. But if you are on a dial up connection it's going to take awhile. Meanwhile I'll see about getting them into another format (like jpg or something) that is browser friendly.
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All this warped, faith-based, xtian right, stepcult thinking is weird to see in print. They went to a lot of trouble to get their "point" across. I'm referring to the 1st document; I have yet to view the others.
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hell yeah it is its weirder to see the notes my mom took as she was going through the initial parent raps and then the material they gave her when she was to TEACH it... its like duh, in your face so obvious yet clueless they were. perspective is everything.
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I only got program jibberish (pardon the pun) when I accessed the links. I would really like to read what you've come across. Anyway to translate it? Or maybe it's just on my end... but that would be a bit incriminating! :lol:
You should be good to go now, just go back to my original message and click one of the links it should take you to a browser friendly page once you refresh. just an HTML page no jibberish ;) Let me know if that works for ya.
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OK... just pulled up the first one...it looks like it's working!
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That was heavy...I only got thru the first link, but it has sent my head realing!
And our parents all bought into that shit?!
I'll have to read the other links later...
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What's really vile is the fundraising letter, where the parents of "Scott" inform everyone they send the letter to of their son's "serious drug problem".
More evidence that Straight viewed us as commodities to be exploited, not as human beings.
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I think I could have done the cult a great service as a wordsmith, saving them copy expenses and time. Leme see what I can do here...
On Sexuality:
No touch. Got it? All approval, validation, affection and acceptance comes from Group. We'll allow it if you're legally married till we find some way to explain that away too.
On outside treatment:
No advice from anybody not indoctrinated in the cult. Need counseling? We'll pick the counselor for ya. Insist on an outside source? Ok, but only if they're willing to toss dr/pt priviledge out the window. Best just keep it inhouse.
Alcohol in the home:
Well, we can't quite get all you suckers to come along with an outright prohibition so we'll just make it fucking impossible to drink after lunch. If you choose to do that, naturally you'll get reamed in parent rap. So best not to drink at all.
On travel:
Don't let a little thing like paying the bills or visiting unindoctrinated friends and family get in the way of devoting yourself and your entire family completely to the cult. Better tell them what's up, too. If they can't accept it, well too damned bad! Get another job, family and friends!
On unauthorized vacations: (I took three of these)
Oh how we long for the good old days on Ft. Lauderdale Beach when we could outright kidnap a kid, brow beat a confession out of them and then call in the parents saying their kid had asked for treatment, all on the coerced word from a friend we'd already brainwashed. But there were legal troubles with that shit, so now we pretend not to be involved. Hit your phone tree [wink, wink, nod, nod] And we've got enough cops and juvy judges in our pockets that it's fairly safe to let them in on it too. Good luck! And, of course, if you never see your kid again cause they hate you, you can always count on us to keep soaking you for all you're worth.
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That was heavy...I only got thru the first link, but it has sent my head realing!
And our parents all bought into that shit?!
I'll have to read the other links later...
hard to be beleive but most defintely they bought into it hook line and sinker. Most of them were hooked before they ever agreed to put their kid in the program. It was a matter of convincing them to the point that if anyone bucked up against what you thought was true well they liar who must be reported. IMMEDIATELY! A sea of NARK parents basically. on the 2nd phase Parent rules sheet it says... "
parents should report to staff first time, every time, immediately:
a. problems in a childs MI
b. childs slacking off in responsibilities
c. childs breaking of straight or parents rules
d. GUT instinct about the child. .
They didn't even want the parent making a choice whether or not staff should be callled or if they could actually be a fucking parent to their child. call staff immeditely and futher down it says, and this si nuts... "Parents When i doubt - use you COMMON SENSE, and THEN report to staff about the situation." Nark nark nark you're child is a druggie liar who can't be trusted. hard to thnk anyone could buy into that shit but its the only thing that makes sense because other then a few paretns who m aybe did ddoubt and pulled their child, the rest were silent. They were under the same guidelines you all were whatever happens at straight stays there, no talking about anyones kid, another parent. Defintiely no negative talk about straight or staff and if you hear another parent do it report them. They had everyone walking on eggshells and not willing to talk about anything in fear they might get in trouble. Sorry to ramble Ive got a shit load more to scaneits a bit overwelming lol but take your time eventually it starts to make sense. It doesnt make it right or make it easier but it definitely allows ou to see how they could possibly have been fooled. And its pretty unbelievable.
Kelly
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What's really vile is the fundraising letter, where the parents of "Scott" inform everyone they send the letter to of their son's "serious drug problem".
More evidence that Straight viewed us as commodities to be exploited, not as human beings.
agreed,,,, did you see in the other fundraising memo the words QUOTA and the bottom line was INTAKES. if thats not screaming commoodities, gotta sell sell sell, i dont know what is.
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The following is a reprint from a much earlier post concerning the scope of parent involvment in the evolution of straight. After that, I will comment on some more current shit directly relating to this thread, so try to keep up and away we go........
In the Pinellas County area in the late seventies, many 'inmates' came from families where the parent was directly or indirectly employed by the Defense/Aerospace industry. I would give my left arm to know the name of the person responsible for informing these workers of the "danger signs" and luring them to check out the program.
Now I am not discounting that there was a drug problem back then, but they were just attacking the symptom and not the cause. The average Joe in Pinellas County had not had a meaningful raise in over ten years, while rampant inflation was eating into whatever was left. The only workers that had it made in the shade were the aforementioned ones. They were priveleged, their jobs were secure, they saw little of their families, and god forbid, they did not talk too freely about what they do at work. This loyalty to the big daddy government guaranteed an aura of anonymity that may have made the Straight Inc. Program look like it was tailor made just for them. This is my theory. Anyone from that era want to go in on this with me then maybe I'll be a little more inclined to help out with your projects. One thing comes to mind. Prior to my coming into Straight, there was alot of construction going on at General Electric in Largo and we all know the name Mel Sembler as having a hand in redevelopment. Just something to think about is all. After some thought I have decided to name a few names of clients who's parents worked Defense/Aerospace and the place that their parents worked.
Tom and Steve Andrews............Honeywell
Mike, Bob, and Scott Patterson...General Electric
Chuck Haig..............General Electric
Lance and Lewis Cantrell........Paradyne
Ted Eckhardt..................E-Systems
Mark Errett..................Rand Corporation
Mike Kubica..................E-Systems
Mike Sailor...............Rockwell
There are more, these are just the ones I am sure of from them either being friends or oldcomers.
Actually, after some thought I decided to edit this post. I now remember that one girl's dad was a U.S. Postal Worker and another girl had a father than ran a UPS route that serviced quite a few defense plants in the Tampa Bay area. I guess the parents of kids already in the program spread the news to other parents like a bad cold or something, but I am sure it was all a part of Sembler's game plan.......Oh wait, there is a guy from UPS knocking on my door. Be right back. (kidding)
I fucking almost swallowed my tongue when I saw the crappy typewritten document. I recognized the print at once. I used the very same typewriter on my final composition for Sociology Class at Dixie Hollins High back in 1980. Back then it was still owned by Tom Schifferel's mom. She let me borrow her IBM Selectric that had a glitch in which the letter "l" when followed by an "i" would have about half a space between them. It was annoying as hell, and I pointed it out to her when she came to get it back. She only lived on the other side of the Cemetary separating our neighborhoods.
I even tried to buy it off of her, but she told me she was donating it to the Straight offices at the Morgan Yacht Building. Them cheap bastards had it ever since! Simply amazing, and just goes to show what a small world it really is.
I was talking to my dad shortly before Christmas, and come to find out that he actually was a big part of the Straight Machine in that he presented a 'horror' movie at General Electric about the dangers of drug and alchol abuse, and teen deaths due to auto accidents. They probably got about 10 or 15 intakes just off of that. My dad is not a tall man, he's about 5-6 with shoes on, but the peer pressure and the spotlight really put the zap on his head. At least he feels a little bad about it now.
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tom schifferil,that's a name I havent thought of in 25+ years I was a newcomer there Big Bret was a foster at the same time .....................................wow
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Bradbury has thousands of documents from Straight's from all over the country.
I know I have seen them.
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Bradbury has thousands of documents from Straight's from all over the country.
I know I have seen them.
Im sure he does the more the better. I just happen to have what my mom personally had, all the notes she took from being trained to teach raps, memos from mel r. etc He was smart though rarely signed shit and rarely used letterhead. but he did fuck up on ocassion that's the kind of stuff that couple prove useful when the time comes.
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this is the preintake applicatin whats most disturbing is the last page which i confirmed came from Mel R. i can see why it wouldnt
be on letter head or signed though, which is a shame.
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm)
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lol i love that photo! a picture is definitely worth 1000 words although im sure i could come up with MORE then a 1000 for that asshole
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this is the preintake applicatin whats most disturbing is the last page which i confirmed came from Mel R. i can see why it wouldnt
be on letter head or signed though, which is a shame.
http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm (http://www.webdiva.org/straight/docs/pi.htm)
That is a shame. Nice work on the docs!! Pretty sick shit.
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That is a shame. Nice work on the docs!! Pretty sick shit.
thanks just glad i finally had some time to get some of this stuff scanned. also very glad my mom held onto shit for years and took REALLY good notes. I was going through some last night she documented his cop-outs, who we used to retrieve himi when he copped out, one person of course was someone who was paid by straight to retrieve kids straight would refer the parents to him. He was also used to keep tabs on withdrawals and encourage them not to move back home especially if the parents had a kid in the program still. Turns out hes a pedophile go figure, was back then too and at the time was CIA and is currently serving a very short sentence for child porn. Did i mention straight hired him, and im sure they knew all of what i just mentioned. Even more ironic we knew him before we ever went into straight, he was a friend of the family. bizarre? just found this shit out in the last couple months.
my mom was famous for writing out her "mic talks" before she'd give them. and i read one last night that was after steve came back from a cop out (sorry got dragged back) and she even says that she couldnt believe steve tried to tell his friends that straight had been trying to brainwash him but it wouldn't "take". and that given time she was sure he would realize straight was where he needed to be. course he always knew that's why he sat on first phase for his whole straight career and copped out 7 times. my mom claims had he ever cried abuse she would have listened. I wonder now though, I mean the parents were so conditioned to report anything negative they probalby wouldnt even take the time to hear or think about what the kid was saying...
Funny how when you reevaluate something after a major perspective change lotsa shit just starts to make sense. My dad was accused of being such an asshole for harboring steve for 6 weeks when he ran away. Now if my dad knew he was being abused and let him getting taken back there he should be beaten to a pulp BUT i don't believe he knew or at least he wasn't paying attention. I think he thought Steve didn't like it there and figured he'd help out since he'd been such an asshole prior. none the less, in retrospect my mom had my dad, the police, even a judge (she documented the whole juvinile court experience where the judge refused yet couldn't say why, to court order steve back to straight) refused to put steve back in straight.
All through her notes she's just amazed that everyone is against her and Straight and she feels so betrayed. Of course now she realizes who was really betraying her. Just a shame people are so blind in the moment that they can't see what is really going on. But we've all been there at one time or another I suppose, although usually somenoe's life isn't at stake.
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It's not surprising that Straight exists in a country that so flagrantly exploits its people & denies them human rights.
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Bradbury at some point plans to make all his documents available on the internet after they are all scanned into an library type system system which will make it easy for every to access.
I think once he free's up from the litigation with the Semblers.
I have spoken to him, He expects it (the litigation) to go well past 2012.
i think he is taking legal action against them but he would not say but that's my guess.
Once his project is completed it will all be online and you may be able to add your documents to it.
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It's not surprising that Straight exists in a country that so flagrantly exploits its people & denies them human rights.
agreed... children have no rights remember in private institutions at least. which makes sense why the govt is involved becaue they cant get away with this crap in govt state run institutions lol. Those have to have laws to project childrens rights. It's definitely not a coincidence that there are no laws to protect children in privately run institutions that's for sure.
ooo we are playing tag team on the forum i just replied to your other post hurry hurry! lol
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Bradbury at some point plans to make all his documents available on the internet after they are all scanned into an library type system system which will make it easy for every to access.
I think once he free's up from the litigation with the Semblers.
I have spoken to him, He expects it (the litigation) to go well past 2012.
i think he is taking legal action against them but he would not say but that's my guess.
Once his project is completed it will all be online and you may be able to add your documents to it.
Or maybe he can add his to mine lol im alreayd in the process of archiving everything, databasing it you name it, I do it for a living so figured i'd put my programming skills to good use, but i think having the same data in multiple places online is actually key and makes it that much more accessible. Actually how does he plan on doing it? if you takl to him and you know he might want assistance on such a project tell him to holler. I met him down in st. Pete a few years back at a conference.
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It's not surprising that Straight exists in a country that so flagrantly exploits its people & denies them human rights.
The program is on the outside too...$tr8 is a manifestation of the real values of our society.
We have seen the beast in its true form.
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The following is a reprint from a much earlier post concerning the scope of parent involvment in the evolution of straight. After that, I will comment on some more current shit directly relating to this thread, so try to keep up and away we go........
In the Pinellas County area in the late seventies, many 'inmates' came from families where the parent was directly or indirectly employed by the Defense/Aerospace industry. I would give my left arm to know the name of the person responsible for informing these workers of the "danger signs" and luring them to check out the program.
Now I am not discounting that there was a drug problem back then, but they were just attacking the symptom and not the cause. The average Joe in Pinellas County had not had a meaningful raise in over ten years, while rampant inflation was eating into whatever was left. The only workers that had it made in the shade were the aforementioned ones. They were priveleged, their jobs were secure, they saw little of their families, and god forbid, they did not talk too freely about what they do at work. This loyalty to the big daddy government guaranteed an aura of anonymity that may have made the Straight Inc. Program look like it was tailor made just for them. This is my theory. Anyone from that era want to go in on this with me then maybe I'll be a little more inclined to help out with your projects. One thing comes to mind. Prior to my coming into Straight, there was alot of construction going on at General Electric in Largo and we all know the name Mel Sembler as having a hand in redevelopment. Just something to think about is all. After some thought I have decided to name a few names of clients who's parents worked Defense/Aerospace and the place that their parents worked.
Tom and Steve Andrews............Honeywell
Mike, Bob, and Scott Patterson...General Electric
Chuck Haig..............General Electric
Lance and Lewis Cantrell........Paradyne
Ted Eckhardt..................E-Systems
Mark Errett..................Rand Corporation
Mike Kubica..................E-Systems
Mike Sailor...............Rockwell
There are more, these are just the ones I am sure of from them either being friends or oldcomers.
Actually, after some thought I decided to edit this post. I now remember that one girl's dad was a U.S. Postal Worker and another girl had a father than ran a UPS route that serviced quite a few defense plants in the Tampa Bay area. I guess the parents of kids already in the program spread the news to other parents like a bad cold or something, but I am sure it was all a part of Sembler's game plan.......Oh wait, there is a guy from UPS knocking on my door. Be right back. (kidding)
I fucking almost swallowed my tongue when I saw the crappy typewritten document. I recognized the print at once. I used the very same typewriter on my final composition for Sociology Class at Dixie Hollins High back in 1980. Back then it was still owned by Tom Schifferel's mom. She let me borrow her IBM Selectric that had a glitch in which the letter "l" when followed by an "i" would have about half a space between them. It was annoying as hell, and I pointed it out to her when she came to get it back. She only lived on the other side of the Cemetary separating our neighborhoods.
I even tried to buy it off of her, but she told me she was donating it to the Straight offices at the Morgan Yacht Building. Them cheap bastards had it ever since! Simply amazing, and just goes to show what a small world it really is.
I was talking to my dad shortly before Christmas, and come to find out that he actually was a big part of the Straight Machine in that he presented a 'horror' movie at General Electric about the dangers of drug and alchol abuse, and teen deaths due to auto accidents. They probably got about 10 or 15 intakes just off of that. My dad is not a tall man, he's about 5-6 with shoes on, but the peer pressure and the spotlight really put the zap on his head. At least he feels a little bad about it now.
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The program is on the outside too...$tr8 is a manifestation of the real values of our society.
absolutely! and its a global problem, makes you really look forward to the future. i'll stick to lookin forward to tomorrow for now.
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The Democrats will save us! Everything will be better!! It's going to be a beautiful world, people! Get ready!
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The America I was raised to believe in basically doesn't exist. That is one of the main lessons I took from $tr8. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is basically a gang of 5th phasers tryin to hold down some misbehavers.
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The Democrats will save us! Everything will be better!! It's going to be a beautiful world, people! Get ready!
now that's funny! LOL corruption is universal it doesnt matter who's in office really. we've fucked shit up so bad at this point its gonna take a lot more then a few democrats to change things.
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The America I was raised to believe in basically doesn't exist. That is one of the main lessons I took from $tr8. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is basically a gang of 5th phasers tryin to hold down some misbehavers.
yeah, question is, did it ever exist? or was that just another ploy. in the dumbing down of our society they want us to believe in that pipe dream and they use our public school system to do it.
it seems to have worked for the most part because there are many people who do stlil buy into that bullshit as something that does exist and therefore can't fathom their perfect society or government being involved in such henious activity.
it's not like it happened overnight either, before we ever popped out the womb they were already fucking up our school system. aTo be such a powerful as a nation, we certainly have a very poor education system in comparison to many countries. knowledge (of the truth) is a powerful thing. God forbid we learn whats really going on and try to make a positive change in the world. What a crime.
I think the one thing that surpised me early on, is I honestly didn't realize so many people who are twisted and sinister could gain power that easily. Its almost as if there's a secret club, wonder how we join? we could infiltrate... im kidding, sorta.
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The America I was raised to believe in basically doesn't exist. That is one of the main lessons I took from $tr8. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is basically a gang of 5th phasers tryin to hold down some misbehavers.
yeah, question is, did it ever exist? or was that just another ploy. in the dumbing down of our society they want us to believe in that pipe dream and they use our public school system to do it.
it seems to have worked for the most part because there are many people who do stlil buy into that bullshit as something that does exist and therefore can't fathom their perfect society or government being involved in such henious activity.
it's not like it happened overnight either, before we ever popped out the womb they were already fucking up our school system. aTo be such a powerful as a nation, we certainly have a very poor education system in comparison to many countries. knowledge (of the truth) is a powerful thing. God forbid we learn whats really going on and try to make a positive change in the world. What a crime.
I think the one thing that surpised me early on, is I honestly didn't realize so many people who are twisted and sinister could gain power that easily. Its almost as if there's a secret club, wonder how we join? we could infiltrate... im kidding, sorta.
http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html (http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones)
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http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones)
There must be some descendants among us somewhere... I wonder how many of them are aware of their 'elite' lineage?
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http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones)
There must be some descendants among us somewhere... I wonder how many of them are aware of their 'elite' lineage?
well in my half serious posted i was alluding more to something a little older and global like Illuminati. it would make a good movie that's for sure. lol i mean anything is possible and certain things defintiely make you wonder how a lot of this has happened over an extended period of time without cooperation from others etc.
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a little older and global like Illuminati.
Don't bring us into this.
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why, would that be illegal or something? to have an opinion? theorize?
Didn't think so.
and us? You speak for all? or can you honestly just speak for yourself?
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why, would that be illegal or something? to have an opinion? theorize?
Didn't think so.
and us? You speak for all? or can you honestly just speak for yourself?
He speaks for the Paul Smith clench of the Illuminati.