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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: 69 on January 03, 2007, 10:53:14 PM
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SAN DIEGO ? An undercover police investigation launched months ago resulted in the arrest of 15 students on drug-possession charges Wednesday morning at University City High School and Patrick Henry High School.
Police said two of the students had marijuana in their possession when they were detained.
Two San Diego police officer posed as students during the fall semester at the two campuses. They bought drugs on or near school, including prescription pain medication, marijuana, ecstasy and psilocybin, otherwise known as magic mushrooms, police said.
At University City High School, police arrested eight boys and one girl, ranging in age from 15 to 17.
At Patrick Henry, in Del Cerro, six male students were arrested. They ranged in age from 15 to 18.
Authorities said they also plan to seek an arrest warrant for a student who transferred from University City to a school in Ohio.
The arrests were made without incident and the operation ?was very smooth and very low-key,? said school district spokeswoman Ursula Kroemer.
Police officials said they conducted the operation to combat drug activity in and around the campuses. The undercover officers bought 6.3 grams of marijuana, 5 ecstasy pills, 6.4 grams of mushrooms and 12 pain pills.
The superintendent was informed about the investigation from the start, with principals at the two schools learning about it Tuesday, Kroemer said.
?On one hand it is a little bit (of) startling information. On the other hand it is keeping with our zero-tolerance policy,? she said. ?One thing we can say is we think the arrests send a very clear message: We don't tolerate drug use, possession or selling on campus.?
Three students were on probation for drug-related offenses and several were repeat offenders, police said.
Police said the students are to be charged with possession of narcotics, possession of narcotics for sale and some will face an enhanced charge accusing them of selling drugs in and around a school.
School district officials had said that police would hold a media briefing Wednesday afternoon, but police officials issued a release with information on the incident instead.
Acting police Capt. Shelley Zimmerman said she couldn't say whether the department had undercover police officers posing as students at any other district campus.
She said no other arrests were expected from the operation.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metr ... hool2.html (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070103-1256-bn03school2.html)
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Police officials said they conducted the operation to combat drug activity in and around the campuses. The undercover officers bought 6.3 grams of marijuana, 5 ecstasy pills, 6.4 grams of mushrooms and 12 pain pills.
Wow. They certainly did have a mini Pablo running around campus there, huh?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:flame: :x :flame: :flame: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::puke::
WTF is wrong with people?
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The superintendent was informed about the investigation from the start, with principals at the two schools learning about it Tuesday, Kroemer said.
?On one hand it is a little bit (of) startling information. On the other hand it is keeping with our zero-tolerance policy,? she said. ?One thing we can say is we think the arrests send a very clear message: We don't tolerate drug use, possession or selling on campus.?
So nobody at the schools knew... how do they find these people who will be high school narcs for a living? They must be pretty young.. fucking turncoats.
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I appreciate the desire to keep schools "safe," but it's unbelievable (no, it's criminal) that students have absolutely no Constitutional rights while on campus in a public high school. The on-campus cop -- not just the school authorities -- can search a kid's car, backpack or personal possessions at any time with no probable cause.
Did it ever occur to any of the Zero Tolerance fanatics that this authoritarian privilege can be abused?
How fucking ironic that students learn about the Constitution and our guaranteed liberties in government class, but none of that applies to them while they're physically at school. And thanks to the Patriot Act, those liberties don't necessarily apply outside of school either.
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Police officials said they conducted the operation to combat drug activity in and around the campuses. The undercover officers bought 6.3 grams of marijuana, 5 ecstasy pills, 6.4 grams of mushrooms and 12 pain pills.
Wow. They certainly did have a mini Pablo running around campus there, huh?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:flame: :x :flame: :flame: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::puke::
WTF is wrong with people?
i sincerely hope the parents of these kids raise the issue of entrapment and sue the local coppers!
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So nobody at the schools knew... how do they find these people who will be high school narcs for a living? They must be pretty young.. fucking turncoats.
::bangin::
It's called Tough Love and tough SHIT. :flame:
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i sincerely hope the parents of these kids raise the issue of entrapment and sue the local coppers!
That only works in a free country.
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the irony is there has been a crime spree now in sd and a lot of people attribute that to the fact the police are leaving in droves because they are the lowest paid cops in the nation because they city cant budget shit.. its a big political issue at the moment.. especially since there has been random murders and invasion rapes of college students this last year.. and here they are wasting cops to pretend to be students in high school to bust them for what most of us consider a party favor bag to any descent party... anothing things that relaly makes ya wonder.
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On one hand I am not keen about drugs in schools.
Then don't send teenagers to school. Notice the lack of crack, meth, lsd, cocain and heroin from that list? the cops were there a whole semester. People who are really using drugs dont use the connects at school. That's the regular kids who buy a dime bag a year to smoke out with their friends. As far as the people selling.. good old american entrepenurialism. . they aint forcing anybody. the drug pusher is another govt myth. how many of those kids are on brain altering psychotropic drugs like anti depressants, anti anxiety, anti adhd drugs. this isnt about zero tolerance. its about taking the drugs which big brother approves. thats what this is about. they want the kids on drugs, just not the ones the kids can get without having to ask some emotional quack for permission. people use what works god bless em.
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"What the fuck ever happened to getting a paper route to earn money?"
Labor laws! Unless your parent owns a business or a friends parent you are fucked.
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Yep. It is ironic. No mention of the large number on legalized drugs, cocaine- Ritalin/Adderall. That's quiet alright cause the dollars are flowing into the pockets they prefer them to be in. My son tells me the #1 substance on campus is alcohol, followed by prescription rx, and third, pot.
Seen the movie PreCog (I think was the name)? Awesome. They are moving in the direction of prevention- intervention- arrests before a crime has been committed.
Examples: In Tx cops have taken to walking through bars and arresting people they 'believe' to be drunk, hauling them to jail on PI. Scientists are hatching a scheme that might provide a smoke and mirrors justification for mandatory drugging of people who are 'predisposed' to violence, etc. They'll probably be successful too, inspite of the fact that they still haven't proven mental illness to be genetic. Imagine a kid who was fathered by a violent man being drugged his entire life. Hell, they now claim to be able to diagnose INFANTS with depression. Give me an f'in break. Programs, of course, fit neatly into this 'intervention/prevention scheme. It's highly profitable.
Anyway, that's a good movie. Cloned psychics lie suspended in a pool of water and dream. If you turn up in their dreams you can be arrested and worse case, incinerated. Another good one, Equilibrium. The shape of things to come unless people pull their head out.
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One of my favorite movies involves a lady named Deborah being whipped mercilessly while bent over a saw-horse. :rofl:
This film is soon-to-be-released from the studios at SIBS...
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Examples: In Tx cops have taken to walking through bars and arresting people they 'believe' to be drunk, hauling them to jail on PI.
That's crazy.
I think the movie you are talking about is Minority Report with Tom Cruise, with the precogs and all that. I thought that movie had an excellent point to. It reminds me to the DARE program in fifth grade. Also how if you have a parent who has had problems with alcohol or drugs they just assume you will too. It seems all about precedent, not about actually engaging in conversation and getting to know each person as a unique human being.
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One of my favorite movies involves a lady named Deborah being whipped mercilessly while bent over a saw-horse. :rofl:
This film is soon-to-be-released from the studios at SIBS...
You never called me back when I signed up to be the impact therapy facilitator! :(
How many uppity asses do I have to tear up to get noticed around here?
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You may like my point of view, but .......you are going to get it anyway.
No one should do drugs, which contains no informative label. People dies in that way, because there is no testing during the production process.
In fact no one should do even legal drug if they could avoid it. For some unspeakable reason, it is regards at OK to go to the doctor (Even in Denmark) whenever you feel stress or can not meet the demands from life.
The society is overdrugged!!
If people has to do drugs just in order to pass an exam, how in the earth should they be able to keep a job with deadlines? They are fooling themselves!
Once again there is one line of defense again the use of unlegal drugs among adolcents and that is the parents.
Their task is to speak with the child about the dangers of drug and how the nul-tolorance in the society could spoil their future, if the child would be caught. They should talk with their children about how to handle stress and that it is OK sometime to feel being left out of the group. They should talk about handle failure, love, sexual orientation, relatives dying and other harsh facts of life.
It should NOT be a lecture. It should be a conversion! But the parents should raise the subject of using drugs before the dealer. Only by discussing the issue openly and of a free mind is it possible to minimize the problem.
And of course. Users should not be punished. They should be offered treatment. Offered, not demanded because a person can only solve a problem, which the person acknowledge.
That was my point view - like it or not.
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I do not dislike it.
I jus want to point out you can recreationally use substances that change how you feel and it NOT be a problem.
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I do not dislike it.
I jus want to point out you can recreationally use substances that change how you feel and it NOT be a problem.
Because none knows what is in the pills, just one pill could mean death. That is the nice thing with alcohol. Just read the label carefully and you know how much you are drinking.
Some also overdo it out of lack of knowledge (This link was meant to be fun, if it was not to tragic: http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-05.html (http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-05.html))
So don't take drugs. That is my point of view.
But again, It is your decision. If you dont feel that is a problem, it is not my job to force you to alter your intake.
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One of my favorite movies involves a lady named Deborah being whipped mercilessly while bent over a saw-horse. :rofl:
This film is soon-to-be-released from the studios at SIBS...
You never called me back when I signed up to be the impact therapy facilitator! :(
How many uppity asses do I have to tear up to get noticed around here?
Tell ya what- You'll have your chance to prove yourself with Deborah! I was personally looking forward to making her ass as red as a ripe tomato, but I'll let you have a crack at it to see what you're made of. A SIBS secretary will be contacting you soon with specifics; thanks!
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AIDS in the SIBS POOL!
Yes, we know. Not much can be done considering who's pissing in it. :rofl:
Now the pool is strictly relegated for consequences...
That's right, druggie -- you fuck up one too many times at SIBS, and you get a case of AIDS!
Now that's therapy. ::hehehmm::
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http://www.poolsclosed.com (http://www.poolsclosed.com)
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/thesilverboy/nevarforget.jpg)
If you don't get the AIDS out of that pool, THEY WILL.
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SPREAD THE GOSPEL! POOL CLOSED DUE TO AIDS! DEBORAH GON GIT WHIPPED!
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Other than our AIDS activism I think everyone here is completely confused by this.
:lol: just how I like it
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So don't take drugs. That is my point of view
Every adult can make the decision fro themselves. If they want to die, or do something that might potentiall lead to their death, it's their choice. I feel doing drugs is a good thing, however I don't spend my life trying to get everyone else to try them. Or start political parties based on prohibition. Nobody cares what other people's views are unless they start trying to force them on others. That's when the problems begin.
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So don't take drugs. That is my point of view
Every adult can make the decision fro themselves. If they want to die, or do something that might potentiall lead to their death, it's their choice. I feel doing drugs is a good thing, however I don't spend my life trying to get everyone else to try them. Or start political parties based on prohibition. Nobody cares what other people's views are unless they start trying to force them on others. That's when the problems begin.
If you read my input - please read it to the end:
I wrote:
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So don't take drugs. That is my point of view.
But again, It is your decision. If you dont feel that is a problem, it is not my job to force you to alter your intake.---
We are in complete agreement about trying to force our views on other people.
If people ask me if it is smart to do drug, I would recommend not to eat in at another way intake some drugs. In general I would not recommend any kind intake of stuff, which consist of unkwown material drugs - or not.
But I am not going to stop people. If some day my own children should come up and talk about it and insist on doing it, i will send them to a relative, which had decided to stop doing drugs in an age of 37 (Out of his own will and with no help.) He had to suffer from stomach pains for about 30 days before he got off, but he insisted and have been clean for about 6 month. Whether he will stay clean is up to him. Hopefully he would continue to be clean, so he can tell my children about 19 years of drug use if that situation should ever arise.
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I do not dislike it.
I jus want to point out you can recreationally use substances that change how you feel and it NOT be a problem.
Because none knows what is in the pills, just one pill could mean death. That is the nice thing with alcohol. Just read the label carefully and you know how much you are drinking.
Some also overdo it out of lack of knowledge (This link was meant to be fun, if it was not to tragic: http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-05.html (http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-05.html))
So don't take drugs. That is my point of view.
But again, It is your decision. If you dont feel that is a problem, it is not my job to force you to alter your intake.
Alcohol kills a heck of a lot more people than do drugs in the US. Prescription drugs by doctors kill a lot more. Guns kill a lot more. Sexual behaviors kill more.
Annual Cause of Death in the US
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.htm (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.htm)
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We are in complete agreement about trying to force our views on other people.
I was talking more generally about the theory about people not using drugs. It morphs from a thought, into laws, and finally into an outright war on citizens. Sorry I wasn't trying to argue with you or anything. Just talking about US drug policy in general.
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Police officials said they conducted the operation to combat drug activity in and around the campuses. The undercover officers bought 6.3 grams of marijuana, 5 ecstasy pills, 6.4 grams of mushrooms and 12 pain pills.
Wow. They certainly did have a mini Pablo running around campus there, huh?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:flame: :x :flame: :flame: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::puke::
WTF is wrong with people?
This wouldn't have gotten me through a weekend in high school. For chrissake, pigs, go bust someone who needs busting!
Months of investigation to get some crappy criminal possession/sale charges on minors? WTF have we come to here?
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So don't take drugs. That is my point of view
Every adult can make the decision fro themselves. If they want to die, or do something that might potentiall lead to their death, it's their choice. I feel doing drugs is a good thing, however I don't spend my life trying to get everyone else to try them. Or start political parties based on prohibition. Nobody cares what other people's views are unless they start trying to force them on others. That's when the problems begin.
Agreed, let junkie scum kill themselves, if that's what they want, as far as I'm concerned it's one less off the streets
Unfortunately, these junkies don't kill themselves, they mug old ladies, they beat up old men in their homes, they stab people to death for the few quid they have in their pockets, they kill the very people who went to war and suffer PTSD to this day so that they are free to enjoy state of the art prisons after being caught for their henious crimes, they drive their cars and knock down little children and kill them while high, they lose their families leaving kids devestated, they don't only wreck their lives, they wreck the lives of virtually everyone who they come in contact with - if it only affected them, then bollocks to them, let them get on with it, but it doesn't, they directly & indirectly kill other people because they take drugs (includes alcohol) :flame:
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You are picking the worst people in a HUGE population and attributing their activities to others. Most people use alcohol and drugs and don't do the things you say. What percentage of the population takes alcohol and drugs.. and why aren't they all doing the horrible things you describe? So because a small minority of people are causing trouble everyone gets punished? Nah, that doesn't cut it. You don't lock people up just because they are bad family members. If people kill other people while high or drunk they go to jail like everyone else. If you want to change your laws and dont like the cushy prisons thats your countries business but people here arent enjoying state of the art prisons after killing people.
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Agreed, let junkie scum kill themselves, if that's what they want, as far as I'm concerned it's one less off the streets
Wow. Junkie scum? This is a side of you I'm thoroughly disappointed to see.
Unfortunately, these junkies don't kill themselves, they mug old ladies, they beat up old men in their homes, they stab people to death for the few quid they have in their pockets, they kill the very people who went to war and suffer PTSD to this day so that they are free to enjoy state of the art prisons after being caught for their henious crimes, they drive their cars and knock down little children and kill them while high, they lose their families leaving kids devestated, they don't only wreck their lives, they wreck the lives of virtually everyone who they come in contact with - if it only affected them, then bollocks to them, let them get on with it, but it doesn't, they directly & indirectly kill other people because they take drugs (includes alcohol) :flame:
No they don't. The vast majority of crime surrounding drugs is a result of them being illegal. Treat it like booze. Legalize it, regulate and tax it.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition: http://www.leap.cc/ (http://www.leap.cc/)
Drugs have always been around and always will be. Some people use, some people abuse. The ONLY way to effectively deal with the situation is legalization. Anything less is foolish and a waste of time. Remember how well Prohibition of alcohol went? Rise of the mafia, Al Capone, bootlegging. You can't punish drugs or drug users or abusers away. It just won't happen.
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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/ ... 107364.ece (http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article107364.ece)
Sound arguments.
I still await the day when science couple with compassion will form the basis for rational policy; instead of the media fueled hysteria we see today.
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Agreed, let junkie scum kill themselves, if that's what they want, as far as I'm concerned it's one less off the streets
Wow. Junkie scum? This is a side of you I'm thoroughly disappointed to see.
Don't be, I have good reason to feel this way about it all - the story is horrific, horrible, and has destroyed many lives, including the lives of 3 innocent children, sorry if I offended in any way, it's just the way I feel about it, taking drugs is a choice, no one has to do it, and everyone is fully aware of the path it'll lead them down
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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article107364.ece
Sound arguments.
I still await the day when science couple with compassion will form the basis for rational policy; instead of the media fueled hysteria we see today.
Me too. I can see why this girl won an award. Very clear and concise. A non-emotional, well thought out essay about a very emotional, hot button issue.
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Agreed, let junkie scum kill themselves, if that's what they want, as far as I'm concerned it's one less off the streets
Wow. Junkie scum? This is a side of you I'm thoroughly disappointed to see.
Don't be, I have good reason to feel this way about it all - the story is horrific, horrible, and has destroyed many lives, including the lives of 3 innocent children, sorry if I offended in any way, it's just the way I feel about it, taking drugs is a choice, no one has to do it, and everyone is fully aware of the path it'll lead them down
I've been robbed by a black man at gunpoint, but I don't go around calling all black people nigger scum.
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Don't be, I have good reason to feel this way about it all - the story is horrific, horrible, and has destroyed many lives, including the lives of 3 innocent children, sorry if I offended in any way, it's just the way I feel about it, taking drugs is a choice, no one has to do it, and everyone is fully aware of the path it'll lead them down
You didn't offend me, I was just surprised to see that. I understand having a horrible experience with someone who is truly addicted to a substance, honestly I do. My ex has been making his kids lives miserable for the last few years due to his meth and opiate use. But that doesn't mean that the substance itself is inherently dangerous. It doesnt' mean that everyone that indulges is a scumbag. Many people are able to use recreational drugs responsibly. I know that's not a popular belief, but it's true nonetheless.
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And then there's those who torture kids just for hte hell of it! (with parents funding the entire operation!) They could use some good pot if you ask me, and less koolaid.
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My physician has asked me to take Nexium for the past 2 years. I feel ill every day till about half an hour after I take my medicine (an hour prior to lunch) I buy my online Nexium and yesterday, there was an address mistake and I went out! I ran to Wal-Mart and purchased Tagamet (which I think is not the same like Nexium but thought it may get me by)
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Agreed, let junkie scum kill themselves, if that's what they want, as far as I'm concerned it's one less off the streets
Wow. Junkie scum? This is a side of you I'm thoroughly disappointed to see.
Don't be, I have good reason to feel this way about it all - the story is horrific, horrible, and has destroyed many lives, including the lives of 3 innocent children, sorry if I offended in any way, it's just the way I feel about it, taking drugs is a choice, no one has to do it, and everyone is fully aware of the path it'll lead them down
I've been robbed by a black man at gunpoint, but I don't go around calling all black people nigger scum.
You might if he was doing the same to you day after day for years and years, and putting your kids through it too
If junkies don't steal, lie, cheat, rob everyone including their own families, then how exactly do they pay for their habit?
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Some junkies have respectable jobs like everyone else....
FUCK YOU!!!!! :flame: :flame:
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You might if he was doing the same to you day after day for years and years, and putting your kids through it too
No, would have just left, instead of bitterly complaining and stereotyping millions of people.
If junkies don't steal, lie, cheat, rob everyone including their own families, then how exactly do they pay for their habit?
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Some junkies have respectable jobs like everyone else....
FUCK YOU!!!!! :flame: :flame:
Sorry, but I don't believe that a heroin addict can hold down a good job in order to be able to fund the habit, they unable to function long enough to be able to work, let alone think clearly enough to be able to work in a highly paid job, and that stuff costs, I know
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Some junkies have respectable jobs like everyone else....
FUCK YOU!!!!! :flame: :flame:
Sorry, but I don't believe that a heroin addict can hold down a good job in order to be able to fund the habit, they unable to function long enough to be able to work, let alone think clearly enough to be able to work in a highly paid job, and that stuff costs, I know
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Yer it's really funny being a heroin addict you idiot
These people are killing themselves and everyone around them, the damage they cause is unbelivable, it's never okay to laugh about it, moron
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Yer it's really funny being a heroin addict you idiot
These people are killing themselves and everyone around them, the damage they cause is unbelivable, it's never okay to laugh about it, moron
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Yer it's really funny being a heroin addict you idiot
These people are killing themselves and everyone around them, the damage they cause is unbelivable, it's never okay to laugh about it, moron
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Quit exhausting yourself, exhausted.
I'll be thinking of your idiotic comments as I laugh my ASS off while getting high as kite tonight. :rofl:
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Sorry, but I don't believe that a heroin addict can hold down a good job in order to be able to fund the habit, they unable to function long enough to be able to work, let alone think clearly enough to be able to work in a highly paid job, and that stuff costs, I know
You're wrong. I know of two I can think of right now who hold down jobs, pay all their bills and really have no major problems other than making sure they can find enough and on time.
Most of the crime surrounding drug use comes from the fact that it is illegal.
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I support the idea that drug crime is no more prevalent or pivotal than regular crime. Crime is crime is crime, whether the guy is a junkie or not.
I do however like to examine the system behind what consitutes "crime". If drugs were decriminialized, taxed, regulated and quality controlled.....how much of that drug related "crime" would disappear without a trace? The old phrase "If you cant beat em, join em" seriously applies here. Stamping out drug use utterly by way of ignorance, lies and tyranny is very simply ineffective, thats just been proven over and over and over, and I cant comprehend why anyone would still be waving THAT flag around given the numbers.
We are attempting to control a situation by using and abusing the very same tactics that THAT situation uses to stay OUT of control. We need a new approach, one based on reality, not contrived morality.
The irony here is that the naysayers and the opposition have the power in their OWN hands to make a difference, but they cant seem to dump that propaganda conditioning long enough to take the first steps.
Hell, I say we stop giving corporate CEO's multi-million dollar bonuses so they dont get addicted to money and power and steal the workforce pensions!
You cant demand that a fellow human being make the right decision, but you can make it more difficult to make the wrong one. Weve already proven that tossing their asses jail is an ineffective deterrent. Lets try something new.
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Well said carmel
There is also the prostitution to consider, while I am not against prostitution itself, I personally think it's a job, the oldest trade in the world and a service that wouldn't be alive if the demand wasn't there, so leave peope alone if that's their choice, what I am against is people preying on young kids, both girls and boys who have found themselves on the streets at a very young age and got them dependant on drugs, they then have to prostitiute themselves out to pay for the drug, the majority die through drug use, it is rife here, the first few hits are free, to ensure the person is addicted and then they have to go earn their next hit - these kids lead utterly miserable lives and die alone in some manky alleyway, usually with every STD there is known to man.
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I agree on the prostitution...also gambling. Its not like you cant get a cut rate ticket to Vegas along with 4 nights at a posh hotel, family events included. I mean, lets infuse some of that zillion dollar wealth into our own states and cities...create jobs.
As far as the young ones getting into prostitution...I agree that its a situation borne of desperation....but getting "addicted" to drugs is not always the final outcome. I dunno if this makes any sense to most...but I still maintain that drug addiction is mostly a psychological effect rather than a physical one...but a youth in the grips of poverty and fear is ripe for that psychological addiction to form a good chunk of the time.
By no means will all the issues be solved, but they could certainly be approached more responsibly and with greater effectiveness.
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Because prostitution and drugs are illegal it prevents kids from asking for help because they know they are considered criminals and druggie scum by mainstream society. Thats why they end up in dark alleys, they have nowhere else to go.
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I agree on the prostitution...also gambling. Its not like you cant get a cut rate ticket to Vegas along with 4 nights at a posh hotel, family events included. I mean, lets infuse some of that zillion dollar wealth into our own states and cities...create jobs.
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I have never given it much thought as i am not a gambler but is Gambling illegal in some parts of the US?
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SOME kinds of gambling are illegal in most of the USA.
Some kinds are OK. Gotta love them 'moral' laws!
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Whoring is illegal in the USA?? Since when?
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LOL...no kidding, right?
Gambling is mostly illegal across the US, there are exceptions....like here in Texas, we have the state lottery, horse tracks, dog tracks...and you can jump a crusie ship off the gulf coast and they truck you out past the international line where the laws dont apply anymore. The Indian tribes are allowed to have casinos on reservation property. There is always online gambling of course.
Personally, I think the states are only screwing themselves...its not like you cant find a gambling outlet no matter where you are.
As far as prostitution, well thats more or less a joke here too. You probably dont see many on the street corners, but you can head to your local 24 hour "spa" and get anything you want. Oh, they bust them every once in a while....and they act like such big heroes about it. We had one here by our neighborhood for YEARS, and they just shut it down, citing inappropriately attired and unlicensed therapists. Yeah, right.....they'd been rakin it in forever. Its all a show.
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Because prostitution and drugs are illegal it prevents kids from asking for help because they know they are considered criminals and druggie scum by mainstream society. Thats why they end up in dark alleys, they have nowhere else to go.
Don't know about anywhere else, but that's not necessarily true here - there is a lot of help for drug users, but its the old age vicious cycle of them not getting help until they admit they need help and so on .... people wil more often than not give someone a second chance, but when they've been robbed, beaten, emmotionally & physically bashed, worn out and generally dragged into the gutter by an addict, there's only one way to go until they can get clean and stay that way, and that way is in the opposite direction of the addict
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It sounds like that person you are talking about exahusted really could have used NA meetings. 90 meetings in 90 days! Get a sponsor! It won't work if you don't work it!
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It sounds like that person you are talking about exahusted really could have used NA meetings. 90 meetings in 90 days! Get a sponsor! It won't work if you don't work it!
He won't admit it's a problem, he's serving a 13 year sentence now, so will be getting NA meetings, but only if he decides he wants to, or as I say admits he has a problem, he came out of prison 6 years clean, was back on it that day, which led to the inevitable crimes that are too horrifying to repeat here
Guess he likes prison food ? :(
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