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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 18, 2006, 05:01:31 AM
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Anyone happen to notice it?
Anyone here intelligent enough to understand it?
Heres a cheery heartfelt Fuck you to the esteemed leader and enabler: GInger Warbis.
Hey Ginger, rather than mock or belittle these people, why not allow some of us more civil victims an opportunity to moderate the Elan board as we see fit?
Is it a censorship issue? I would be happy to find a compromise and allow the bullshit posts to stay uncensored. But given the power, I would warn people that unprovoked attacks, vulgar sexually explicit posts, and off-topic rhetoric be cause for a temporary IP ban, or deletion as they occur.
I find it hard to believe the anon aspect is so important here, when you allow people to post the personal information of others, violating their anonymity. Thats quite a double standard.
Elans discussion needs more of a purpose than that of your own agenda Ginger. (To display the mind-fucked product of Elan to the www audience)
I assume since my views of Elan are neutral, taking on a moderate role would not fit the sites agenda either would it?
(a fornits moderator seems a bit of an oxymoron anyway doesnt it?)
Though my post is unfriendly, I am quite sincere in my desire to guide the Elan section of the site to a more productive, civil (and relevant) discussion, which I believe may benefit Elans alumni/victims via meaningful constructive communication. Rather than the purposeless swill that has consumed it for years.
We can all sit here and spotlight the individuals who post these unfavorable, often deranged comments in support of a claim that Elan and TCs like it fuck people up to this point. Or we can provide an atmosphere to encourage an enlightening, accurate view of Elan with accurate accounts of what the residents went through there, with a means of resolve and support.
Cant we?
Is it worth discussing Ginger?
Wouldnt an Elan discussion geared towards truth and accuracy be more befitting of your agenda here Ginger?
Or has displaying the behavior of former Elan residents been more supportive of your claim that TC's damage people?
I'd be happy to email you in an effort to find a suitable role I might play here.
But I would insist that I have the authority to ban IP addresses, and edit posts (with reason) in an effort to make a new and improved Elan discussion qualify for a place in this site (at least as much as is does now as a display of mental lepers)
I am retired for the winter. Hibernating in a cabin in the Mountains of he west.
Ive nothing better to do with my time, and find that this might be a gratifying endeavor.
Elans former residents NEED a resource like this.
In its current state it does nothing for Elan residents.
Eh?
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Sounds somewhat all good, all that has to be done now is to ban Arthur. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
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YOU are what is needed here...
What years were you at Elan I noticed you used the term resident... and not student.
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Ginger didn't change the subtitle; I did, based on what I see goes on here. The subtitles are intended to be an introduction to what each forum contains. I chose that one for sarcasm, wit, a warning to parents, and a hope that maybe this forum's inhabitants would realize what they're doing and stop.
Ginger's agenda is to provide an open meeting place for people to freely talk. Considering all of you were apparently former residents of Elan, and continually exchange messages, she's succeeded nicely. It's not her fault that all you want to do is insult each other. Someone please point me to the last genuinely constructive post made here. I'd love to see the date on it.
The sum total of your post is ridiculous. You're making an anonymous post going after the admin and asking to be made a moderator? "I HATE YOU AND I WON'T TELL YOU WHO I AM.. make me a mod!" Is that something you learned at Elan? In what world do you get control over any organization by issuing a blanket insult at the inhabitants and going after the site owner? "These kids are being uppity and rude, let's have some real discipline, that'll show them who's boss." Hmm... where have I heard that before?
Bear in mind that every other forum on Fornits is similarly unmoderated. Some of them are constructive enough to help get the hellholes they discuss destroyed.
Bottom line: If you want better posting in the Elan forum, make better posts.
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Uhh, who the fuck is talking to you Milkman?
I dont care if you wrote the subtitle or not, Ginger is the enabler. Accountability for "stupid" reaches up the ladder of authority, not down.
How are you qualified to respond to me? Your "moderator" title?
Please, sit down and let the grown-ups handle this.
Dont lecture my about anonymity, your alias is simply a different color mask....hypocrite!
So your suggestion is for me to come here and make constructive posts? Wake up Dorothy, I am not the only former resident who will not participate here due to the filthy rodents who disrupt every single post and conversation in this place.
The people here are extremists. I assure you there are many many people who would love to exercise their right to peaceful protest and discuss of Elan in a manner that involves truthful accounts, and civil exchange.
Why are you not interested in enabling and encouraging that?
Are you speaking on Gingers behalf and telling me she feels the same way?
Milkman. Ive seen some of your posts. It appears you are part of the problem.
And that problem is: Intelligent people do not mingle with simple minded fucks like yourself.
You can have this group of simple minded, uneducated morons and allow the Elan board to continue on in its path of worthlessness.
Or you can help me and others like me utilize the board for purposeful, truthful, topic discussion.
Elan residents want to come here. Unfortunately, we wont unless something changes.
So, if you actually have some input on what changes can be made to allow people a place to discuss without the ongoing FICTITIOUS insults, disclosure of personal information, badgering, and offensive filth, please step up to the podium.
If not. Pass the mic to someone who might think it an idea worthy of discussion.
Fuck...I mean Thank you very much.
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SOME have tried to start these so called intelligent threads/posts you speak of.
If you want to actually look in the archives you will see that alot of people have attempted to write "constructive" posts.
Unfortunately there are not enough people that want to keep it "constructive".
What we have is what we have asked for. People feed into the nonsense and before you realize it another thread bit the dust.
Like I have said countless times before if you really can't stand the content of the threads/posts here then either bust your monkey ass off to change it OR don't log in. Simple huh?
But some here do not like to make things simple.
People LIKE to come here and complain their asses off about how ridiculous it is on this forum. They look forward to it.
Others (God bless their souls) come here and keep trying to turn it around.
It is a no win situation.
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I'm just curious how you think either of us is answerable to you.
And the post above this one, wanting to "turn things around", posted mindless crap on several threads, and created the recent "help" and "laundry" threads.
I'm wondering if these are in fact Elan shills or they're just that demented.
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Thanks for your input.
That same post has been made here how many dozen times?
I am not interested in a debate of weather or not I SHOULD come in here, because I dont.
I am asking for an oportunity to communicate with the boards enablers and discuss a method to redirect the Elan section towards a constructive atmosphere.
I simply would like to take part in developing a place where Elan can be discussed, Former residents can participate in a manner that is anything but the current filthy, offensive, argument that it is, and the trolls can be held accountable for the shit they post.
Milkman subtitled the Elan section of the board..
Somehow the retard thinks parents will look in here and find an answer to thier questions.
Are you a part of that group milkman defines?
Do you want that group to represent all of Elans former residents, or your experiences there?
I dont.
But milkman can kiss my ass. I am not interested in debating this with him. I'd like to participate in an exchange with Ginger.
Trust me, I have better things to do with my time.
Im not even sure I would commit to moderating this board, but I think its worth a shot isnt it?
Elan dumps young adults back into the world and where do they have to go for support. Where do they go to understand what happened to them and how other forner students have coped with the culture shock of re-entry?
Certainly not here.
I think my effort is an unselfish one. The board will be a better place for Elan alum to visit, instead of its current status as Fornits finest display of TC victims.
The fucked up part is, all you filthy trolls keep posting your vile crap. And you continue to stand in front of the glass for Ginger to display to the world how fucking retarded you are as a result of a TC.
Does that make sense?
Do the trolls even grasp the concept that you are being USED!
Nobody fucking cares what fictional story you can conger up about Art. The focus is on YOU and how fucking miserable you are!
Hey, Im just making an offer to volunteer my time to the ELan board and get it cleaned up with a hope that something good could come from it.
Is this site not interested in helping former TC students find resolve, and supoort from people who went through the same thing?
Or is fornits Elan simply a fucking display of animals to support Gingers claim that TC's PRODUCE animals?
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Again milkman, who the fuck is talking to you?
Ask some valid meaningful questions. Step down off your fucking stage, remove your crown and tell me why my idea is unworthy of consideration.
Obviously you are happy with the board the way it is, and you are too proud of your Elan subtitle to have it threatened by anyone who actually went to Elan.
Fuck you dude. You insulted me with that subtitle.
THAT is what qualifies you to answer to me dumbass.
You were not in Elan. How are you qualified to debate how the Elan site is geared?
Youre not. So fuck off.
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Again milkman, who the fuck is talking to you?
Ask some valid meaningful questions. Step down off your fucking stage, remove your crown and tell me why my idea is unworthy of consideration.
Obviously you are happy with the board the way it is, and you are too proud of your Elan subtitle to have it threatened by anyone who actually went to Elan.
Fuck you dude. You insulted me with that subtitle.
THAT is what qualifies you to answer to me dumbass.
You were not in Elan. How are you qualified to debate how the Elan site is geared?
Youre not. So fuck off.
This crap is obviously and clearly how Ginger wants it here.Why else would this be what it is. This is not an new idea. Moderators serve no purpose here that i know of. Fornits is clearly over-run by the Elan rejects that remain committed to making this a caustic place to attend.
Look at it this way
Ginger is protecting you from the ugliness of her very own creation! :idea:
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Although my first post is, well, unfriendly and a bit hostile, those of us who want a better fornits Elan might to have to convince Ginger that it is possible. Havnt enough people asked for relief from the trolls?
I doubt Ginger actually finds any gratification in the continued mayhem of fornits Elan...But its not easy to figure out why she would allow the shit to continue when she has the power to just scrub the whole fucking farce. Its worthless unless it IS a display to support TC assault.
Shes a very intelligent person. Often intimidatingly so. The wordy prose she often comes back with is too fuckin much sometimes. (or every time)
Compromise is key. I want to do something positive, but it doesnt have to be in this toilet.
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Sounds somewhat all good, all that has to be done now is to ban Arthur. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
And what to do with your many hundred vile posts?
hmmmm
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*And what to do with your many hundred vile posts?*
Well since you stopped logging in Arthur, I guess that makes it impossible to edit/delete them. Wouldn't be a bad idea either to delete them, you would'nt want a minor coming across them in the future and reading them.
But then again it also can turn out to be a good thing. It could be your downfall, and stick like butter if interest is finally shown by a prosecutor willing to build a case against you.
I think using the word *Vile* is so modest in what you said here. You are truly a very sick, disgusting/disturbed person.
You dare try to paint an ugly picture of other people who come here, when in fact each time you purposely provoked them?
I have done the long tidious task of investigation, and every post that was directed towards you was a simple *Reaction* to your provocation
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With the exception of a person called *short bus*, you really did a number of provoking at this site. And all this goes back a long way, you simply made it your mission and business to stick your nose where it doesn't belong.
And you actually have the nerve to paint a bad picture of the people that simply reacted to your provacation?
You really need some serious help!
Way too much time on your hands.
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yes its all mt fault that you posted the distgusting vile shit that you are responsible for.
I think you are right ... get the law involved... Am looking forward to it
gutless coward that you are
not logging in? wtf? when did you ever log in
twister
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Art, I dont ride the bandwagon here, but did you ever stop and look at what this place has become?
Every time you post you validate just a little of whats being said about you.
Youre a fuckin moron to keep coming back!
Yes, these trolls should be sodomized by a truck driver or three for making fornits Elan such a trailer park. But c'mon dude. Theres not a chance in hell you'll ever redeem yourself. Nobody wants to be a part of this with you here and I dont understand what you think youd be missing out on, or leaving behind if you quit fucking coming in here. (????)
Your like the retarded kid at school dude. Nobody can legitimately blame you for being retarded, but they kick your ass every time youre on the playground...and you keep going back! Now nobody really knows why they kick your ass, they just do.
Are you as fucking stupid as they are?
Is your social life such a fucking mess that you cannot stay away from fornits?
Do you expect anyone to buy an idea that you dont come here for our own good, but maybe for someone elses benefit?
Heres a fact. You are WEAK. You have little self control. Youve been eaten, digested and shit out by the trolls. It doesnt matter how you disguise shit, doctor it up with perfume and good intentions, its STILL SHIT.
No matter how much a fucking pedophile redeems himself, finds god, cleans up his act...hes still a pedophile, and will NEVER get a job in a fucking day care center.
Stop applying for a position here!
It will be so much easier to run all the damned trolls out when youre gone.
Dont tell us all youre leaving, dont post a goodbye, or a "last post" for all your fucking friends to see you off on your journey...just fucking go!
Dont ever type "Fornits" into your browser again!
Youll be happier, those of us who come here and read all the "Art this" and "Art that" posts will be happier, and all the fucking retarded trolls will have to get a new fucking hobby.
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Sounds somewhat all good, all that has to be done now is to ban Arthur. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
Yo home-dick...what we need to do yo, is ban all you fuckin trailer park kids who use the word "Art" yo.
Does that sound somewhat all good yo?
P.S.
How can you have something that is "somewhat all good"
Either its somewhat good, or its all good.
Fucktard with your MTV trailer park slang. I'm guessing you drive an 89 honda prelude 4 door with a pop-can muffler and home-made spoiler and you tinted the windows so your homies wont see the car-seat in the back.
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For a guy that doesnt ride the bandwagon here.that was pretty good.
Redeem myself? From what? Dave K ?: Jordon? Andy?
Whatever any of them have to say is just fine with me.why does it bother you so much ? Why do you come here if that bothers you so much? Maybe you need a break, my dim witted troll. If you wish to have a constructive conversation with me,I am avail on a number of IM's throughout the day,and Email all the time.My phone number is also in the book. I suspect you dont wish to do that because your identity then would be known,and it would be illegal for you to actually email me as a friend,and type what you type here.I have no doubt that "it all comes out in the wash" I will look forward to that.
Have a nice day asswipe!
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what a coincidence.. no messeges and no email
Who is the troll?
one thing is for sure Doug
Solution or problem,you decide on which side of the fence to stand.
I'll wait here!
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Hey Art. Doug here.
Please dont assume that I am as predictable and/or transparent as you or anyone else here might be. We all have our ways of passing time before we die.
Im not too concerned with how you or anyone else here has elected to pass that time.
Its your own cross to bear.
Drawing any conclusion, other than the idea that another person would like to see you leave is quite absurd, though not in contrast to the personality youve developed and shared (and have in common) with all your silly friends here.
I'll check back and see how youre doing in a month or so.
Im off to Mexico for a week of fishing and non-english speaking pootie.
adiós agujero del asno!
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P.S.
I dont know if I am insensitive enough to send a postcard.
Maybe.
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Once again, it all boils down to Art.
Why not rename the Elan section "Art"?
With the subtitle: "Come and see how many times a retarded ass walks through a door and gets a bucket of shit in the face before he stops walking through the same door"
Anyone who claims Art is retARTed has a pretty strong case with the evidence here at fornits. I only wish the trolls here would get tired of shitting in buckets, but you keep feeding them Art.
Go Art, RUN to your nearest "some other website"
At this point I think the only thing thats going to get you away from fornits is a straight jacket.
If the doctors are disguised as lawyers representing you in a civil suit against Fornits, I anticipate you'll go quietly.
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Stayed up till 3 am to fuck with me?
Who is the troll ?
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there certainly is alot of shit slinging here.. I have taken alot of it
But you just keep it coming,its what you know to do,its easy to pick at someone on the internet behind your anon mask(s). One day you may find that all your lies and horrid stories have only left a black mark on yourself. I know your goal is to see me leave,g uess what kid. Not happening. Someone said earlier,if you want a better forum,post something better. I know it may not be as much fine as being a shiteater,but the human race has its advantages
1)people around you dont think your a whacko
2)dont have to use mouthwash after eating that bucket of shit
3)you can charge more than a nickel for giving blowjobs
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Interesting.. When the going gets tough, You know who starts speaking of eating shit and oral sex. And all this occurs when people start handing him, his ass.
Whatcha gonna do Artie?
I know, we all suck cock for a nickel and eat fistfuls of shit for breakfast!
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I know, we all suck cock for a nickel and eat fistfuls of shit for breakfast![/quote]
well then
you have attained the 1st step to recover from your illness
congrats.. now all thats left is to jump off a building
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stepcraft (shudder)
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:scared: watch out for that 1st step
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I like it,though it serves zero purpose
I find it interesting that what started out as Art defending Nazi's attention seeking racial slurs and comments has turned into the same person pummeling Art for everything else.
when in fact its no secret what started this .... way back when
art you are an ass ... but i respect ya for not backing down
dave... You are a sick man,you deserve what you get
ps its not half of what you have given
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Last I knew Doug was dead? I must be mistaken? Anyone know the real story?
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The real story is:
Doug is not Dead.
Someone with the same name, and a similar motorcycle was killed in an accident.
Dougs friend (a cop) thought it was him and spread the word.
Doug showed up the next day and freaked a few people out.
I work for Doug. I am sitting at his desk right now. I know what happened. I was also in Elan which is how I met him.
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I remember that
a year or so ago
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ok... so who might you be ? what years where you housed at elan?
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Considering sending your kid to Elan? Come read our Elan forum and observe the eloquence and integrity of its staff and graduates.
Thank you for that Ginger
another great example of solution/problem
Its your site/its your problem
You allow/condone what is posted here.After numerous attemps by a number of people other than myself to put a leash on your animals,you have become one of them.
Though I always knew,and stated what a sick fuck you were. You demonstrated that behavior then,and of course now
A hearty FUCK YOU to you !
Art
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Happy Turkey day
even you Dave !
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I think the Garglers' sub-title is offensive. I'm sure it was meant to be. I have a question for those who want to moderate and clean up this forum. Why don't you post on Ken or Jackies' site?
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Oops, that was me above. In case you want to call me names. :)
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Happy Turkey day
even you Dave !
Curious, Why would you write Happy Turkey Day? A Turkey certainly has nothing to be happy about, considering he is the main coarse across tables world wide.
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I think the Garglers' sub-title is offensive. I'm sure it was meant to be. I have a question for those who want to moderate and clean up this forum. Why don't you post on Ken or Jackies' site?
That's because people are stubborn and stupid. And their mission is to turn this board into a Zaretzky pro elan board.
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That's because people are stubborn and stupid. And their mission is to turn this board into a Zaretzky pro elan board.[/quote]
I buy the stubborn and the stupid
Pro-Elan ? Are you kidding me?
There is nothing anyone could say or do at this point to change what Fornits is.
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I thought Art said he was suing someone over what's been posted here. Whatever happened with that?
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I thought Art said he was leaving forever. Whatever happened to that?
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I thought Art said he was leaving forever. Whatever happened to that?
That was Doug,Jnailz,every woman to ever participate here and a host of others.Art isnt going anywhere. Proud of yourself?
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What? Who?
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Happy Turkey day
even you Dave !
Curious, Why would you write Happy Turkey Day? A Turkey certainly has nothing to be happy about, considering he is the main coarse across tables world wide.
Turkeys are so stupid they're happier dead
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I tried to post a new topic AND a screen popped up saying I had to sign in. Am I safe to assume that one can answer a post anonymously but can not start a new topic anonymously?
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So, Ginger has ignored the request to communicate about the topic at hand. Ignored an Email and an IM and left the demeaning subtitle intact.
But now has set the properties of posting here to allow only registered anon users to post new topics?
How fucking generous, considering the fact that the trolls disrupt threads that are already made.
So the trolls will either sign up and continue to post the crap they post, or simply use other peoples threads to continue their stupid games.
yay.
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Oh well. Work with what youve got.
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So, Ginger has ignored the request to communicate about the topic at hand. Ignored an Email and an IM and left the demeaning subtitle intact.
But now has set the properties of posting here to allow only registered anon users to post new topics?
How fucking generous, considering the fact that the trolls disrupt threads that are already made.
So the trolls will either sign up and continue to post the crap they post, or simply use other peoples threads to continue their stupid games.
yay.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19803 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19803)
Ok, I give up, at least one inch. For the moment, you have to register some kind of username to post. The spammers won this one. Too many people banned as spammers by the filtering software. Ya'll will have to register a name to post for the time being. Lot of other things need attention around here. I hope I'll be able to give you all your due in reasonable time. Right now, though, I need some zzzzzzzsssss.
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Well I think theres more to this , I think theres alot of people behind the nasty post that go on here. Not just Dave or JJ... room for thought people ... think about it.... who would ever believe anyone from this board... is it a set up? Are you feeding into their game ? Giving them just what they want? Just my gut feelings and maybe a little more but without proof WHAT CAN I SAY....
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Heres the deal. You dont have a clue who posts the shit. Admit it. You DONT KNOW!
So stop fucking guessing.
For all anyone knows...YOU are the sole source of the shit in here and you have no way to defend that accusation, just as I have no way to verify it.
One more reason to shut the hell up is..
Your post makes no sense.
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If it makes no sense then why are you so upset... just let it be why come here and go on like the nut case you are... Now thats what dosnt make sense.... :lol:
Peace Out my friend....
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So you can read someones attitude through a post too?
Shut up...ass. The only thing that remotely upsets me is that I cant reach through my monitor and stab you in the eye.
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It's 2:00 Art. Aren't you late for your meeting?
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So you can read someones attitude through a post too?
Shut up...ass. The only thing that remotely upsets me is that I cant reach through my monitor and stab you in the eye.
Hostility,aggression,hatred
is everyone you come in contact with as thrilled as we all are?
See a shrink!
Is that a THREAT? Are you man enough to come get me :scared:
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(((So you can read someones attitude through a post too?
Shut up...ass. The only thing that remotely upsets me is that I cant reach through my monitor and stab you in the eye.)))
Art that was for the joker who wants to stab me in the eye .... NOT YOU!
So I will ask again are you big enough and man enough to come get me?
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Why are you instigating Arthur?
Somethings never change...
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Why are you instigating Arthur?
Somethings never change...
Really what is the point ? Problem or solution ? I see which road you take every time. Why dont you leave it alone and just try being an adult