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Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 07:45:32 PM
SAVING TEENS IN CRISIS COLLABORATIVE    
Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
 
Thanks to the generosity of private donors and a grant of $100,000 from the federal government, Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) has raised enough money to begin saving teens.

STICC is looking for suitable families, who will be funded through an 18-20 month, long-term recovery program, including wilderness therapy and a therapeutic boarding school. Families will also receive support through the Saving Teens network of parents who have already gone through such a process.

To apply, the teen must be no older than 16 years of age.

Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

Marilyn Engelman?508-870-1515
Adam Goldberg?508-320-2700.
Leslie Goldberg?781-749-2074
Lon Woodbury?208-267-5550  

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Don't Blame Me
I'm Just The Repo Man
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 08:00:06 PM
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and a grant of $100,000 from the federal government,


That's what, enough to torture two kids for one year?

Exactly what government agency gave them this money, what restrictions did the government agency place on the use of the money (if any), and what programs will be benefiting from this taxpayer handout?

Any Fornits members know how to find these things out? Because I think we've got a corruption scandal waiting to be unleashed.
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 08:33:40 PM
Are you sure that isn't some kind of joke? Were dose it come from?
Anybody got a link to the sorce? Lon, we most all know - who are those other clowns?
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 08:59:43 PM
i suggest everyone email lou dobbs about this immediately. nobody is going to help you but lou.
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 09:38:24 PM
This ain't no joke.  Just like the referral industry preying on intolerant parents ain't no joke.  This is just another way to medicalize adolescence so parents can raise their kids without having to see or hear them.

http://www.savingteens.org/index.html (http://www.savingteens.org/index.html)

Don't Blame Me
I'm Just The Repo Man
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 09:59:13 PM
From the Saving Teens Website

Second Nature Wilderness Program Provides 75% Scholarships For Saving Teens Kids

Second Nature recently announced their support for Saving Teens saying::


Second Nature is proud to offer a 75% scholarship to children that have been approved and funded by Savings Teens for a long term recovery program. We do so because we value the
Saving Teens methodology. This begins with their comprehensive evaluation which insures
that the kids we are providing scholarships for are a good fit for our program. Once they
have completed their wilderness component Saving Teens funds a longer term therapeutic
environment, like a therapeutic boarding school. We think that this commitment to aftercare
for our clients gives them a much greater likelihood of eventual success. Saving Teens also
recognizes the important role the family plays and provides funding and emotional support
for the parents during the process so they can attend workshops and have someone to talk
to. We feel this is another essential component for success. Finally, Saving Teens requires
that the parents contribute to the process financially, according to their need, and that they
commit for the long term program of 18-24 months, to strongly discourage their removing
their children.

Overall we feel that Saving Teens has created an excellent model for recovery based on
real world experience. This gives us great confidence that the large financial commitment
we are making will be rewarded with troubled teens transformed into functional, happy,
young adults. We hope that we can be an example for other programs and schools by fully
participating in this very important initiative.


Saving Teens Participating In Panel Discussion At Independent Educational Consultants
Convention In Denver - May 2005


?Sorry, I?m Afraid We Can?t Help You?

What can educational consultants, schools, and programs do when a parent calls but cannot afford
their services or tuition? This interactive session will examine the magnitude of the problem and
look at different approaches or solutions that exist.

Saving Teens founder John Reuben will be joined by an educational consultant and
representatives from wilderness programs and boarding schools on this panel.
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: psy on November 02, 2006, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal""
Any Fornits members know how to find these things out? Because I think we've got a corruption scandal waiting to be unleashed.


Don't blame on corruption what can be explained by incompetance.  Believe me, i used to work with the Govt.

That being said.  I truly hope Lon and the rest burn in hell for this.
Title: Lon Woodbury is in
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 11:47:05 PM
Our People

Our purpose is to provide a total solution to troubled teens in crisis and their families, with a methodology that incorporates both financial and emotional support throughout an 18-24 month
process of evaluation, intervention and education. Our board of directors has been assembled to incorporate all of the required disciplines to facilitate that. Our advisory board assists us in their
specific areas of expertise.

Board of Directors:

John Reuben, Founder & President
- Parent of 2 troubled teens who have been in therapeutic programs
- Executive in Software Sales and Marketing for over 25 years, including the founding of a significant software enterprise


Marilyn Engelman, Ph.D.
- Certified Educational Planner, Founder of Educational Directions
- Specializes in psycho-educational and neuropsychological assessments, college and secondary placement, and therapeutic placement

Corey Hicks, A.A.-
Chief Executive Officer of Longevity Music, LLC
- Pastor and Founder of Philips International Outreach
- Former Addict and Alcoholic who has been clean and sober for over 14 years

Theresa Wing Hines
- Parent of troubled teen who is currently in a therapeutic program
- President and Owner of One Pearl-jewelry and textile design and import


Sharon Levy, MD
- Director of Pediatrics for the Adolescent Substance Abuse Program at Children's Hospital in Boston
- Associate Researcher at the Center for Adolescent Substance Abuse Research

Penelope Manasco, M.D.
- Parent of a troubled teen who is currently in a therapeutic program
- President of GenomAssist Former Chief Medical Officer of PharmaVigilance and First Genetic Trust, Inc.

Scott P. Sells, Ph.D.
- Founder of the Savannah Family Institute (SFI)
- Author of two books: Parenting Your Out-Of-Control Teenager and Treating The Tough Adolescent

Marie Sigman, M.S.
- Educational Psychologist specializing in advocacy for students with learning challenges and transition management of young adults from high school including college placement
- Guidance Counselor and Teacher in Sudbury Massachusetts School System for over 30 years

Alexander Steffan, J.D., M.B.A.
- Attorney in private practice
- Counselor at PolyMedica Corporation, a provider of healthcare supplies and services

Advisory Board Members:

Leslie S. Goldberg, M.Ed., CEP, Member IECA
- Founder and President of Leslie S. Goldberg & Associates, LLC - Educational Consultants
- Provider of therapeutic and educational placement advice for over twenty years
- Certified Guidance Counselor; periodic expert witness

Adam R. Goldberg, Member IECA
- Chief Executive Officer of Leslie S. Goldberg & Associates, LLC - Educational Consultants
- Specialist in intervention planning for teens at risk
- Board Member of Learning Disabilities Worldwide

Lon Woodbury, MA, CEP, Member IECA
- Publisher of Parent Empowerment Handbook, The Woodbury Report, and www.strugglingteens.com (http://www.strugglingteens.com)
- Prior to becoming an educational consultant, taught in the public school system and worked with U.S. Senate and the Executive Office of the President on public policy

Executive Director:

Patricia R. Abreu

_________________________________________

Request More Information

John D. Reuben, President and Founder

Patricia R. Abreu, Executive Director

Telephone: (877)249-1336

Email: information@savingteens.org

Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative
25 Maybury Road
Sudbury, Ma. 01776

Evaluation

STICC?s multi-step, multi-disciplinary evaluation involves the collaborative participation of
psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, and educational consultants.

Our educational consultants work directly with the medical team at our partner medical institution to
develop an individualized, long-term program for each teen, which encompasses the intervention
and educational phases of our methodology.  

At every stage of the evaluation, STICC conducts interviews with the family to assess financial need,
determine the family?s ability to support a challenging 18-24 month process, and to explain the
recommendations of our team.

Parents must sign a contract, and agree to contribute to their child?s care every month for the
duration of the program.  

The child is now ready for intervention.

Intervention

Entering a wilderness program or rehabilitation center serves to remove the teen from the existing
environment, put an immediate stop to the dysfunctional behavior and/or substance abuse, and
diffuse family conflict.

Wilderness programs are particularly effective because they teach self-reliance while including a
large therapeutic component.  Rehabilitation centers treat substance abuse as a disease, and can
be very effective for the severely addicted youngster.  Either program serves to radically change the
dynamic, and allow the child to focus on the underlying cause of the self-destructive behavior.

STICC?s role is to coordinate and provide the funding (and/or scholarships) for the intervention
program, the parents? travel, and even escort services for the children, as most teenagers do not
take this step willingly.        

Education & Recovery

The most lengthy and expensive stage in a teen?s 18-24 month recovery plan is education and
recovery, where modest gains that are made in the intervention are then leveraged and expanded.  It
is here that the self-realization that allows the child to effectively deal with life?s challenges begins to
occur.

Educational programs are not simply boarding schools, but speak to the complete development of
the child.  They support the child?s intellectual, emotional, social, and physical progress by providing
a nurturing and safe environment with academic support, group and individual therapy, recreation,
and wilderness experiences.  Schools also provide workshops for the parents so that they can
participate fully in their child?s recovery and personal growth.  In the same vein, STICC?s families
receive the ongoing guidance and emotional support of a group of dedicated parents who have
already been through this process.

Success

The teen moves on to college or a job, with STICCy results that last a lifetime.
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 12:45:57 AM
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Parent of 2 troubled teens who have been in therapeutic programs


You couldn't take care of your own kids- why the FUCK should you be trusted with someone else's?!

Hey PT9K, you wanna crack at this?
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Programmie-Trans 9000 on November 03, 2006, 12:48:03 AM
I WOULD SOONER DOUSE MY CRITICAL CIRCUITS IN A SOLUTION OF SODIUM CHLORIDE, FECES PRODUCER.
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 01:20:14 AM
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i suggest everyone email lou dobbs about this immediately. nobody is going to help you but lou.


Funny if meant as a joke.  Downright hilarious if serious.

Anyway, this is a total shit sandwich.  EdCons + .gov = there is no happy here
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 01:40:19 AM
If you're looking for 'happy', you've definitely come to the wrong forum.

Hey, a new Fornits slogan!
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 09:00:01 AM
"We think that this commitment to aftercare
for our clients gives them a much greater likelihood of eventual success."
YOU DO, HUNH? YOU THINK?

Saving Teens also recognizes the important role the family plays and provides funding and emotional support
for the parents during the process so they can attend workshops and have someone to talk to.
IT'S GOTTA BE CHEAPER THAN A REAL PSYCHIATRIST THAT I WOULD NEED TO SEE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE I FELT SO BAD ABOUT HURTING MY CHILDREN.

We feel this is another essential component for success (OF THE FINAL SOLUTION).

Finally, Saving Teens requires that the parents contribute to the process financially, according to their need, and that they
commit for the long term program of 18-24 months, to strongly discourage their removing their children."

COMMIT? WHAT IF THEY FIND YOUR PRACTICES QUESTIONABLE. OHHHHH. NO WORRIES? YOU'V GOT THE GOVERNMENT ON YOUR SIDE. WELL, SHIT, WHO WOULDN'T TRUST THEM TO PROTECT YOU FUCKING CHILDREN?

ftw
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 11:08:09 AM
This word "aftercare" seems to be used a lot in this industry. I finally had to look it up and found this on dictionary.com:
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Main Entry: af·ter·care
Pronunciation: -"ke(&)r, -"ka(&)r
Function: noun
: the care, treatment, help, or supervision given to persons discharged from an institution (as a hospital or prison)

Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


Seems odd that the programmies would openly talk about how kids are going to need treatment after the parents have already wasted all their money on the programs.

Even more odd is the common experience of everyone I've talked to who has been involved with a program: as soon as the parents stop paying, all "care" and interest in the "patient" ceases immediately. Maybe an email or two from a caring counselor asking "how are you doing?" but that's about it.
Title: leaving
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 01:03:28 PM
they spend so much energy on making sure you have staff that you connect with. In many cases, the student claims they are as close or even closer with their support staff than their own parents. After you are unleashed on the world with your new CEDU tools, you are alone. Yeah, with a little more support, care, aknowledgement, after CEDU, there could have existed a different relationship to the rest of society. What I'm trying to say is that if they did care maybe we could too. About the good things, and not hating them for leaving us out in the cold after we pour our hearts out to them in those bizarre workshops and all. I know that I would feel differently about the whole experience if there was a more gradual approach to leaving and reintegrating into the realer world. There just could have been a way to adopt decent principles from the place and avoid the prospect of ideological black and white thinking.
Oh. and only if I didn't learn to hate myself so much too. how did do that anyway? and why?
Title: Re: leaving
Post by: psy on November 04, 2006, 04:36:12 AM
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they spend so much energy on making sure you have staff that you connect with. In many cases, the student claims they are as close or even closer with their support staff than their own parents.

Yup.  Those workshops can be a real doozie.  Hey man: "Tell it all brother..."  It works.  They delete the old "you" and make you into the "you" you "really are".  After a while you forget the old nasty evil old "you" and learn to love the staff who taught you how to "find" the real "you".  After enough time you will even learn to bark on command and do tricks for the amusement of the staff.  What better way to provide happyness to others than by humiliating yourself on command.

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After you are unleashed on the world with your new CEDU tools, you are alone. Yeah, with a little more support, care, aknowledgement, after CEDU, there could have existed a different relationship to the rest of society.

What?  You mean a relationship with openness and trust somewhat resembling the truth or reality?  Don't you know, fool child, that the truth is a lie.

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What I'm trying to say is that if they did care maybe we could too.

Do more research my dear child.  Of course the cared deeply about you, and the (financial) love you brought them.  Why else would they have wanted you to stay there so long?  They needed to help you since you kept acting out incessantly, you silly goose.  Why your parents are so ashaimed of you. It's a good thing they cared about you so much more than they did.  Don't you know your friends they help you make and the staff who helped you discover who helped you discover your true self are your real family.

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About the good things, and not hating them for leaving us out in the cold after we pour our hearts out to them in those bizarre workshops and all.

Why yes, the workshops were a delightful experience.  I remember hearing from a kid who ran his friend's head over with a motorboat...  Or the girl who liked to masturbate with spatulas.  It was so cute.  We used to call her "spatch".  I think we all felt better after letting it all out.

After all that screaming in our faces, and the crying, i remember i was so happy to be fed and have a nice pile up on the floor with my loving councelor and the rest of my true friends.  After all that self-discovery i was so happy to finally be allowed to eat and sleep.  Why i could barely stand at that point.  They showed me what love and true friendship was.

Hate them for what they did?  Heavens no i would never do such a thing.  I'm so grateful to my councelor for showing me the real me inside, and helping me to forget that evil bunch of lies that made up the old "me".

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I know that I would feel differently about the whole experience if there was a more gradual approach to leaving and reintegrating into the realer world.

You should be grateful to go to an original CEDU school, child.  Where I went (cedu clone) "gradual" meant being dropped on the streets once the parents ran out of cash.  But I see their infinite wisdom in thier choices.  What better way to show a new adult the real world.  What better way to show love than by helping someone reach rock bottom, and then letting them build themselves up (or not, if you didn't remember what the program taught you).

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There just could have been a way to adopt decent principles from the place and avoid the prospect of ideological black and white thinking.

But there is no gray my child.  There is only black and white.

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Oh. and only if I didn't learn to hate myself so much too. how did do that anyway? and why?


It's ok child.  You're hating the evil old "you".  You need to remember the friends they helped the new "you" to make, the councelor they helped you to learn to love.  Oh but it is an eternal conflict my child, you must always remember the danger of relapsing into the old "you".  Remeber the first step to recovery from whatever your "issue" was.

Why yes my child, ADHD, learning disabilities, anxiety, depression, asburgers syndrome and -- any other issue you were there for, are all addictions and you need recovery which lasts a lifetime. Why else were you there?  You would not have been there unless you truly needed help.  Your parents did not know what to do with your acting out.  After all the pain you caused them eventually stopped caring.  Parents only have so much love you know.  But they still love you at CEDU my child and would take you back in a second if your parents had any money left.

to who is reading this at a glance, in case you can't tell, THIS IS SARCASM!"
Title: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
Post by: Deborah on November 05, 2006, 02:38:29 AM
A bunch of do-gooder philanthropists, religious zealots, Ed Cons, and program owners who want to save the world by incarcerating teens.

"I?m a new runner and was experiencing ankle and arch pain prior to using Boston Pedorthic orthotics. I?m pleased to report that I love my orthotics. I am pain-free and breaking my timing record. I plan to run lots of marathons and to use running to benefit "Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative."~~John David Reuben Sudbury, MA
http://www.bostonpedorthic.com/satisfied_running.asp (http://www.bostonpedorthic.com/satisfied_running.asp)

MARILYN ENGELMAN PhD
Ed Con and  Dr of Philosophy. Apparently no website.
http://listings.allpages.com/ma-0000350 ... rough.html (http://listings.allpages.com/ma-0000350481-westborough.html)

THERESA WING HINES
In addition to having a kid in a program?
December 28, 2005
Shaping Her World
Even parents of Watkinson student's take the school's mission statement to "shape their lives and the world around them" to heart. Current parent Theresa Wing Hines has begun a new venture that combines her innate artistic skills, her personal style, and her passion for making a difference in kids' lives. She has begun her own jewelry line, called One Pearl, proceeds from which will benefit two charities for children. First, the Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative, an 18-month-old nonprofit organization in Sudbury, Mass., that was established to place disadvantaged youths, including children in Connecticut, in intensive long-term therapy programs. And secondly, The George A. and A. Jean Wing Fund for International Studies here at Watkinson.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:pq0 ... =clnk&cd=2 (http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:pq0kMRes2zYJ:parents.watkinson.org/news/+%22Theresa+Wing+Hines%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2)

One Pearl
Founded in 2004, One Pearl arose from the desire to increase access to educational and behavioral services for people who cannot afford them. Many whose lives could be improved never receive help, simply because of a lack of money. One Pearl's mission is:

To provide funding for organizations that promote health and education.

We accomplish this mission through the sale of pearl and semi-precious jewelry and handmade, imported silk products. One Pearl donates all profits to nonprofit organizations.
http://www.onepearl.net/ (http://www.onepearl.net/)

YOUNG GEMS FROM STRING OF PEARLS
HALF OF JEWELRY SALE PROCEEDS HELP DISADVANTAGED TEENS
Hartford Courant - Hartford, Conn.
By Colin Poitras
Dec 25, 2005
To understand how Theresa Wing Hines' One Pearl jewelry campaign to help disadvantaged troubled teens got its name, it helps to know how a pearl is made.
A pearl is formed when a particle, most often a grain of sand, gets into an oyster, where it is coated with layer upon layer of mother-of-pearl until it emerges as a smooth, lustrous "organic" gem, Hines said.
"The process is similar to what a child can experience when entering a transformative youth program, whether for educational purposes or due to a personal crisis," Hines said.
"Just as a particle becomes a precious pearl ... a child emerges from the right program as a transformed and enriched individual."
Hines' line of necklaces, bracelets and earrings, the sales of which benefit youth programs, features a single contrasting pearl -- either black or white -- as a reminder of the wearer's commitment to a child in need.
"One Pearl has enabled me to combine my love of travel and design with one of the most important lessons my parents ever taught me -- to help others, especially children," said Hines, who has two teenage children.
Hines' jewelry costs between $20 and $1,600.
Half the proceeds from the jewelry sales go toward the Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative, an 18-month-old nonprofit organization in Sudbury, Mass., that was established to place disadvantaged youths, including children in Connecticut, in intensive long-term therapy programs.
Those programs can cost as much as $150,000 per child for an extended 12- to 18-month commitment. Many of the costs are not covered by insurance. The programs usually start with a few weeks at a rehabilitation center for teens grappling with substance abuse and character-building "wilderness" programs for those with behavioral issues. Each is
followed by therapy and counseling at a therapeutic boarding school or sober house.
The other half of the proceeds goes toward The George A. and A. Jean Wing Fund for International Studies at the Watkinson School, a private prep school in Hartford where Hines' son, Ian, attends classes. Hines started the fund, which is named after her parents, because she felt today's students aren't learning enough about the world.
Hines learned a lot about the world as a child, traveling to such places as India, Lebanon and Africa with her father, a professor with the Ford Foundation who helped start the graduate school of business at then-Dacca University in Pakistan.
It was in Dacca, now called Dhaka, that Hines' interest in philanthropy was born. She said she would never forget the poverty she witnessed from the family's private compound, where maids and cooks met her family's needs. The disparate economies had a tremendous impact on her.
"Outside there was an open sewer," Hines said. "Men bathed in it, drank it; they had no clothes. I will never forget the poverty I witnessed."
Always searching for a way to help others, Hines said she became interested in youth programs after hearing stories from friends about how their children benefited from the costly private therapy programs.
Hines said she was bothered that wealthy families were able to enroll their children and struggling families were not. She felt disadvantaged children should have equal opportunity and landed on the One Pearl campaign as one way to help.
Today, Hines frequently travels to distant places such as Shanghai to meet pearl dealers to design and promote her product. Keiler & Company, a Farmington-based advertising and marketing firm, has helped with promotional designs. The jewelry is featured at LaPerla Ltd., BK & Co. and Central Optica in West Hartford center.
Hines, whose husband David has done well in the restaurant business, says she has invested more than $80,000 of her own money in the project. She said that as her One Pearl initiative expands, she plans to reinvest about 10 percent of the proceeds into buying pearls and other materials to keep the line going, but will continue to volunteer her own time and absorb any overhead and travel costs.
Saving Teens founder John Reuben praised Hines' energy. Hines is on the organization's board of directors.
"She's a philanthropist in its truest form, flying around the world creating jewelry that is helping kids," Reuben said.
Reuben and Hines met through word of mouth in April 2005. Reuben started Saving Teens after seeing how his two sons benefited from private therapy programs. Saving Teens is a fledgling organization itself, having formed in June 2004 and only recently obtaining its nonprofit status. Reuben said donations have been steady and there is hope a child will be sent to a program soon. The organization is run by volunteers to make sure the maximum amount of donated money is used for the kids. The group's board of directors includes educators, educational consultants, mental health experts, wilderness experts and parents. Reuben, a software sales and marketing executive, said candidates will be chosen from referrals. Saving Teens has several educational consultants on its advisory board who have volunteered to help screen candidates at no cost. Saving Teens also works closely with the Adolescent Substance Abuse Program at the Children's Hospital in Boston. The program's director of pediatrics, Dr. Sharon Levy, is on the Saving Teens board of
directors. More information about the One Pearl campaign can be found at www.onepearl.net (http://www.onepearl.net).
Copyright The Hartford Courant 2005

So David?s a Kentucky Fried Chicken kind a guy?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_62554948 (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_20_34/ai_62554948)
http://www.cityofnewhaven.com/uploads/1 ... %20Ave.pdf (http://www.cityofnewhaven.com/uploads/1391-08%20KFC%20Whalley%20Ave.pdf)

COREY HICKS AA- Phillips International Outreach

The Lord is faithful? That is why I have to obey Him and launch Philips International Outreach. As a Recruitment Associate at the School of Urban Missions, I traveled nationally representing Christ and SUM with hopes of winning souls and inspiring prospective students.
Today, God is calling me to solely execute winning souls. I am extremely humbled that God would even choose to use me, but I know that He has equipped me for every thing He has placed before me. Philips International Outreach was birthed through much prayer and revelation knowledge.
http://www.musicbuilt2last.com/pblog/index.php (http://www.musicbuilt2last.com/pblog/index.php)

PENELOPE MANASCO, MD
Like Hines, she's a program parent and created a product, ?Penelope Bags? and donates a percentage to STICC.
http://www.penelopebags.com/index-1.html (http://www.penelopebags.com/index-1.html)
http://www.penelopebags.com/index-4.html (http://www.penelopebags.com/index-4.html)
The day after she left her startup technology company, First Genetic Trust, in February, she started creating her dream bag.
... she's recruited local university students to sell the bag. And of course, she's relying on the Web site, www.womenchangetheworld.com (http://www.womenchangetheworld.com), for exposure and sales. In just two weeks, the company's already sold 10 bags. Some of the profits will go to various charities, including Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative, the Avalon School and Urban Ministries.
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:6L ... clnk&cd=15 (http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:6LNGs8h9a_UJ:www.ncsu.edu/news/dailyclips/1105/110405.htm+%22SAVING+TEENS+IN+CRISIS+COLLABORATIVE%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=15)

DR SCOTT SELLS, PhD
Conducts parent seminars for programs. His associate is Greg Lindsey, past Headmaster at HLA.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... dsbad.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/5/goodkidsbad.html)
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... nnah#94224 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=94224&highlight=savannah#94224)

LESLIE and ADAM GOLDBERG
Ed Cons  Member IECA. Supporting member of NATSAP
http://www.edconsult.org/about.htm (http://www.edconsult.org/about.htm)

Leslie advertises that she?s been an Ed Con for 20 years. Shortly after STICC was created she hired an ex staff of Aspen?s Bromley Brook.
Nov 05 Amanda Hamilton
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5228.shtml (http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/article_5228.shtml)

Adam created his own testing device:
The GEPI-I? is an inventory of a student?s placement needs, based on education/learning patterns, social/emotional presentation and factors important to the student?s environment/milieu. The GEPI-I? is in no way intended to replace elements of a psycho-educational or neuropsychological battery such as IQ testing, achievement testing, personality/projective screening, etc. It is created as a supplemental assessment tool designed to clarify needs specific to placement rather than articulate student presentation.
?We are excited to raise the bar for service delivery in our industry,? comments GEPI-I? creator and the firm?s CEO, Adam R. Goldberg. ?We want to continue to reset the standard for best practices in providing the absolute top level of service for our clients.?http://www.edconsult.org/documents/GEPIPressRelease.doc

On their ?Advisory Board?
Jared U. Balmer, Ph.D.
Co-Founder & Executive Director - Island View Residential Treatment Center for Adolescents & Oakley School
Syracuse, UT
http://www.islandview-rtc.com (http://www.islandview-rtc.com)
Who promoted Self-Regulation in Montana.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... mer#225687 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=225687&highlight=balmer#225687)
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... mer#189861 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=189861&highlight=balmer#189861)
The difference between a Residential Treatment Center, for example, and an Emotional Growth School depends on the different emphases each places on the use of Psychiatry, Therapy, Structure (he used the term Milieu), Education, and Recreation. For example, a Residential Treatment Center will emphasize Psychiatry, Therapy and Therapeutic Structure in its program, with only minor elements of Recreation and Education. On the other hand, an Emotional Growth School is basically a mirror image of a RTC, in that the emphasis is on Structure, Education, and Recreation/activity, with only a minor role being played by Therapy and Psychiatry.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... lmer#54024 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=54024&highlight=balmer#54024)

Joshua C. Doyle, M.Ed.
Director of Admissions - Pine Ridge School
Williston, VT
http://www.pineridgeschool.com (http://www.pineridgeschool.com)
http://www.edconsult.org/BoardofAdvisors.htm (http://www.edconsult.org/BoardofAdvisors.htm)
Pine Ridge is an Aspen program, ?sister program? to Youth Care
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/asp ... 50323.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/aspenenhancments050323.html)

As for the $100,000 GRANT
JUVENILE JUSTICE PROGRAMS
The Committee recommendation provides a total of $333,712,000 for Juvenile Justice Programs for fiscal year 2006. The budget request proposes to fund juvenile justice programs under the Justice Assistance heading. The Committee recommendation is $45,333,000 below the fiscal year 2005 level and $101,488,000 above the request for similar juvenile justice programs. The table below displays the Committee's recommendation compared to the levels requested under the Justice Assistance heading for the same programs.
[In thousands of dollars]
The recommendation funds the juvenile delinquency prevention and accountability programs in accordance with Public Law 107-273, which reauthorizes the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act and the Juvenile Accountability Block Grant programs.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/? ... OC_194284& (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&sid=cp1095fDG3&refer=&r_n=hr118.109&db_id=109&item=&sel=TOC_194284&)
Title: Thanks
Post by: psy on November 05, 2006, 05:15:15 AM
Thanks for the info Deb.  How legitimate is IECA?  Is it truly an "Independant" educational consulting firm.  I'm starting to doubt that. :lol:

Doesn't anybody check up on theses assholes (besides fornits posters)?
Title: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
Post by: Ursus on September 24, 2010, 01:02:48 AM
RE-POST of the OP (02 Nov 2006):
Quote from: "The Repo Man"
SAVING TEENS IN CRISIS COLLABORATIVE    
Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
 
Thanks to the generosity of private donors and a grant of $100,000 from the federal government, Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) has raised enough money to begin saving teens.

STICC is looking for suitable families, who will be funded through an 18-20 month, long-term recovery program, including wilderness therapy and a therapeutic boarding school. Families will also receive support through the Saving Teens network of parents who have already gone through such a process.

To apply, the teen must be no older than 16 years of age.

Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

Marilyn Engelman · 508-870-1515
Adam Goldberg · 508-320-2700.
Leslie Goldberg · 781-749-2074
Lon Woodbury · 208-267-5550  

------------------

Don't Blame Me
I'm Just The Repo Man
Title: Re: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
Post by: Ursus on September 24, 2010, 01:09:30 AM
It certainly makes one wonder ... just how tight Lon Woodbury is with this operation:

"Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

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Title: Re: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
Post by: Dr Fucktard on September 24, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: "Ursus"
It certainly makes one wonder ... just how tight Lon Woodbury is with this operation:

    "Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

      Marilyn Engelman · 508-870-1515
      Adam Goldberg · 508-320-2700.
      Leslie Goldberg · 781-749-2074
      Lon Woodbury · 208-267-5550"
    [/b][/list][/size]
    Send your kids to SIBS instead!!!
    Title: Re: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
    Post by: Whooter on September 24, 2010, 08:30:06 PM
    Quote from: "Dr Fucktard"
    Quote from: "Ursus"
    It certainly makes one wonder ... just how tight Lon Woodbury is with this operation:

      "Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

        Marilyn Engelman · 508-870-1515
        Adam Goldberg · 508-320-2700.
        Leslie Goldberg · 781-749-2074
        Lon Woodbury · 208-267-5550"
      [/b][/list][/size]
      Send your kids to SIBS instead!!!

      I have never understood the whole SIBS thing.  Is this an inside joke of some sort?  What does it stand for?



      ...
      Title: Re: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
      Post by: Ursus on September 25, 2010, 10:24:13 AM
      Quote from: "Whooter"
      Quote from: "Dr Fucktard"
      Quote from: "Ursus"
      It certainly makes one wonder ... just how tight Lon Woodbury is with this operation:

        "Parents or referring parties must contact one of the following Educational Consultants who are working with Saving Teens:

          Marilyn Engelman · 508-870-1515
          Adam Goldberg · 508-320-2700.
          Leslie Goldberg · 781-749-2074
          Lon Woodbury · 208-267-5550"
        [/b][/list][/size]
        Send your kids to SIBS instead!!!
        I have never understood the whole SIBS thing.  Is this an inside joke of some sort?  What does it stand for?
        It sounds like you could use some straightening out at Straight, Inc. -By-The-Sea (http://http://www.fornits.com/SIBS/)! :D

        They've even got their own forum (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=6) here, in case you want to read about all the illustrious success stories, the dissenting banter, and nuggets of worldly wisdom from Drs. Fucktard and Miller Newton, et al...
        Title: Thought-Provoking Beans: Saving teens in crisis
        Post by: Ursus on September 25, 2010, 08:12:14 PM
        I've heard tell that folks pay several hundred $$ ... for a mention such as the blog entry below ... in the informal barter known as "viral marketing." That's an old quote; the price may well have gone up and is, of course, relatively flexible depending on need and demand of the plug in question.

        I wonder what the price is for so-called "charitable enterprises."

        Did John Reuben engage in such barter? Or is Clive Maxfield just a "well-meaning email acquaintance," as the tone of his prose might have you believe?

        -------------- • -------------- • --------------

        Thought-Provoking Beans: Saving teens in crisis (http://http://www.techbites.com/201008122958/myblog/blog/z0022-thought-provoking-beans-saving-teens-in-crisis.html)
        Written by Clive Maxfield · August 12, 2010

        I just received an email from a guy called John David Reuben, who is asking our support for his forthcoming NY Marathon run in honor of his son Michael, whom he lost to heroin addiction.

        John subsequently founded the Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (http://www.savingteens.org (http://www.savingteens.org)) to help other families struggling with this disease of drug addiction. This is a national organization that has helped families from New York to California.

        In addition to individual sponsorships, John is looking for corporate sponsorships, so maybe you could pass this on to those who don the undergarments of authority and stride the corridors of power in your organization / company and tell them that they can find out more by watching this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfLs4ZTh53A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfLs4ZTh53A).


        Copyright © 2010 - Techbites.com.
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Whooter on September 25, 2010, 09:39:26 PM
        Thanks Ursus, Good find and Great Video

            *
              andreabrandeis
              1 month ago

              I? have? a new favorite charity!!!
              andreabrandeis 1 month ago
            *
              pblboards
              1 month ago

              John - inspiring? video - well said. You have? my full support !
              pblboards 1 month ago
            *
              FlutistEsq
              1 month ago

              An inspiring story, and a worthy? cause. I look forward to following John's progress, and to supporting Saving Teens? in Crisis Collaborative!




        ...
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: thomasC on September 26, 2010, 08:24:59 AM
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Thanks Ursus, Good find and Great Video
            *
              andreabrandeis
              1 month ago

              I? have? a new favorite charity!!!
              andreabrandeis 1 month ago
            *
              pblboards
              1 month ago

              John - inspiring? video - well said. You have? my full support !
              pblboards 1 month ago
            *
              FlutistEsq
              1 month ago

              An inspiring story, and a worthy? cause. I look forward to following John's progress, and to supporting Saving Teens? in Crisis Collaborative!


        All three accounts were created on the same day - their sole activity viewing and commenting on this video.

        It's nice to see you aren't saving all the sockpuppeting for fornits.
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Whooter on September 26, 2010, 08:42:17 AM
        Quote from: "thomasC"

        All three accounts were created on the same day - their sole activity viewing and commenting on this video.

        This is common especially if you are older.  There are not many videos that are made by our generation on youtube.  The guy probably let his friends and acquaintances know he put up a video and they logged in so they could comment on it and support his efforts.

        "Hey, How can I make a comment?"......  "You need to create a user name and then log in."

        None of the people I know scan through youtube videos making comments on them.



        ...
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: RobertBruce on September 26, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
        Wow $7000.00 John. That's enough to send one kid to one program for a month! You aren't accomplishing anything! Keep up the good work!
        Title: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Ursus on September 26, 2010, 10:08:53 AM
        Quote from: "thomasC"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Thanks Ursus, Good find and Great Video

            *
              andreabrandeis
              1 month ago

              I? have? a new favorite charity!!!
              andreabrandeis 1 month ago
            *
              pblboards
              1 month ago

              John - inspiring? video - well said. You have? my full support !
              pblboards 1 month ago
            *
              FlutistEsq
              1 month ago

              An inspiring story, and a worthy? cause. I look forward to following John's progress, and to supporting Saving Teens? in Crisis Collaborative!
        All three accounts were created on the same day - their sole activity viewing and commenting on this video.

        It's nice to see you aren't saving all the sockpuppeting for fornits.
        :roflmao:   :roflmao:   :roflmao:  A most excellent observation, Thomas!

        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: DannyB II on September 26, 2010, 10:27:03 AM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "thomasC"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Thanks Ursus, Good find and Great Video

            *
              andreabrandeis
              1 month ago

              I? have? a new favorite charity!!!
              andreabrandeis 1 month ago
            *
              pblboards
              1 month ago

              John - inspiring? video - well said. You have? my full support !
              pblboards 1 month ago
            *
              FlutistEsq
              1 month ago

              An inspiring story, and a worthy? cause. I look forward to following John's progress, and to supporting Saving Teens? in Crisis Collaborative!
        All three accounts were created on the same day - their sole activity viewing and commenting on this video.

        It's nice to see you aren't saving all the sockpuppeting for fornits.
        :roflmao:   :roflmao:   :roflmao:  A most excellent observation, Thomas!

        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the font size and the bolding are pretty telling, eh?"


        OH BOY, it is Ursus turn now to troll, Whooter.
        I guess the meeting of the, "Benevolent Order of The Fornit Trolls" had their meeting at Ursus's last night and within there "circle jerk" had a epiphany, as Ursus explained in his post above. WOW, way to go brother bear.
        You must have been elected to chair the, Fall Quarter. Don't let us down.
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Whooter on September 26, 2010, 10:31:21 AM
        Quote from: "Ursus"

        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"

        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol



        ...
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Ursus on September 26, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol
        Whew!! Try and slice through that load of sarcasm with anything less than a BigBoy-sized chainsaw, and you're liable to be sweatin' all mornin'!  :D

        I didn't post any comments 'cuz there weren't any ... on Clive Maxfield's blogfommercial. I didn't get around to the actual YouTube clip itself yet. Thanks for taking care of that!

        Incidentally, lots of folks post article comments from time to time. They don't seem to have the same reticence towards it that you do, however!  :rofl:
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Whooter on September 26, 2010, 11:32:52 AM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol

        Whew!! Try and slice through that load of sarcasm with anything less than a BigBoy-sized chainsaw, and you're liable to be sweatin' all mornin'!  :D

        Sarcasm begets sarcasm. lol.


        ...
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: DannyB II on September 26, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol
        Whew!! Try and slice through that load of sarcasm with anything less than a BigBoy-sized chainsaw, and you're liable to be sweatin' all mornin'!  :D

        I didn't post any comments 'cuz there weren't any ... on Clive Maxfield's blogfommercial. I didn't get around to the actual YouTube clip itself yet. Thanks for taking care of that!

        Incidentally, lots of folks post article comments from time to time. They don't seem to have the same reticence towards it that you do, however!  :rofl:

        OH BOY, it is Ursus, turn now to troll Whooter.
        I guess the meeting of the, "Benevolent Order of The Fornit Trolls" had their meeting at Ursus's last night and within there "circle jerk" had a epiphany, as Ursus explained on another post. WOW, way to go brother bear.
        You must have been elected, to chair, The Fall Quarter. Don't let us down.
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Ursus on September 26, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
        Quote from: "DannyB II"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol
        Whew!! Try and slice through that load of sarcasm with anything less than a BigBoy-sized chainsaw, and you're liable to be sweatin' all mornin'!  :D

        I didn't post any comments 'cuz there weren't any ... on Clive Maxfield's blogfommercial. I didn't get around to the actual YouTube clip itself yet. Thanks for taking care of that!

        Incidentally, lots of folks post article comments from time to time. They don't seem to have the same reticence towards it that you do, however!  :rofl:
        OH BOY, it is Ursus, turn now to troll Whooter.
        I guess the meeting of the, "Benevolent Order of The Fornit Trolls" had their meeting at Ursus's last night and within there "circle jerk" had a epiphany, as Ursus explained on another post. WOW, way to go brother bear.
        You must have been elected, to chair, The Fall Quarter. Don't let us down.
        If you're alluding to evening events that transpire during New Warrior Training Adventures, that really would be your forté. I think you've pretty much established that I'm simply not man enough to appreciate these kinds of male bonding activities...  ;D
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: DannyB II on September 26, 2010, 04:21:39 PM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "DannyB II"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        I was thinking last night, when I first came across Whooter's post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19217&start=15#p380465) quoted above, "Gosh, John, the way you chose to post your "fans' comments"  (font size, bolding) ... is pretty telling, eh?"
        Sorry, Ursus, I should have been more sensitive. We all know that you like to be in control of what "comments" get posted here on fornits (from the various articles) and having choice of format is important to you.  
        I guess I was just wondering why you left them out this time (maybe not negative enough for you?).  I will try to be more considerate next time. lol
        Whew!! Try and slice through that load of sarcasm with anything less than a BigBoy-sized chainsaw, and you're liable to be sweatin' all mornin'!  :D

        I didn't post any comments 'cuz there weren't any ... on Clive Maxfield's blogfommercial. I didn't get around to the actual YouTube clip itself yet. Thanks for taking care of that!

        Incidentally, lots of folks post article comments from time to time. They don't seem to have the same reticence towards it that you do, however!  :rofl:
        OH BOY, it is Ursus, turn now to troll Whooter.
        I guess the meeting of the, "Benevolent Order of The Fornit Trolls" had their meeting at Ursus's last night and within there "circle jerk" had a epiphany, as Ursus explained on another post. WOW, way to go brother bear.
        You must have been elected, to chair, The Fall Quarter. Don't let us down.
        If you're alluding to evening events that transpire during New Warrior Training Adventures, that really would be your forté. I think you've pretty much established that I'm simply not man enough to appreciate these kinds of male bonding activities...  ;D

        No just your infatuation with Whooter, it seems your man enough for this attempt at bonding, err....excuse me trolling.
        Why don't DJ, Robert and yourself, go have yourself a meeting and figure out who is man enough to break through this addiction.
        Gather ya members and call them to order, Benevolent Order Of The Fornits Trolls, shall be heard now.....
        Title: Re: ego and vanity will get ya every time
        Post by: Anne Bonney on September 27, 2010, 03:00:52 PM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        If you're alluding to evening events that transpire during New Warrior Training Adventures, that really would be your forté. I think you've pretty much established that I'm simply not man enough to appreciate these kinds of male bonding activities...  ;D

         :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Ursus on September 27, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Whooter on September 27, 2010, 05:31:14 PM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        • Saving Teens Marathon Update
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c)

        40 miles a week, thats pretty good plus 40 hours on fornits?  He must have an IPad.  That would be my guess.



        ...
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Anne Bonney on September 28, 2010, 11:37:54 AM
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        • Saving Teens Marathon Update
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c)

        40 miles a week, thats pretty good plus 40 hours on fornits?  He must have an IPad.  That would be my guess.


        Doh!  Ursus must have struck a nerve for Whooter to rush to the defense of John Reuben.
        Title: Re: Saving Teens Looks For Needy Families To Help
        Post by: Anne Bonney on September 28, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
        Quote from: "Whooter"

        I have never understood the whole SIBS thing.  Is this an inside joke of some sort?  What does it stand for?


        Poe's Law.

        When you can't tell satire from someone's perceived reality.  Like when someone posts that the Earth is flat and god created Earth in 7 calendar days.  Most people would recognize it as satire, but then there are those that really believe in young Earth creationism.
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Whooter on September 28, 2010, 11:54:33 AM
        Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        • Saving Teens Marathon Update
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c)

        40 miles a week, thats pretty good plus 40 hours on fornits?  He must have an IPad.  That would be my guess.


        Doh!  Ursus must have struck a nerve for Whooter to rush to the defense of John Reuben.

        Hmmm..  its called satire, Anne.


        ...
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Anne Bonney on September 28, 2010, 11:57:29 AM
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        • Saving Teens Marathon Update
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c)

        40 miles a week, thats pretty good plus 40 hours on fornits?  He must have an IPad.  That would be my guess.


        Doh!  Ursus must have struck a nerve for Whooter to rush to the defense of John Reuben.

        Hmmm..  its called satire, Anne.

        Poe's Law strikes again.  I can't tell the difference between your 'satire' and your real viewpoints.....they're so similar.
        Title: Re: Ed Cons and Uncle Sam Team Up to Save Teens in Crisis
        Post by: Whooter on September 28, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
        Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
        Quote from: "Whooter"
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Another YouTube clip from STICC:

        • Saving Teens Marathon Update
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Q-YizF48c)

        40 miles a week, thats pretty good plus 40 hours on fornits?  He must have an IPad.  That would be my guess.


        Doh!  Ursus must have struck a nerve for Whooter to rush to the defense of John Reuben.

        Hmmm..  its called satire, Anne.

        Poe's Law strikes again.  I can't tell the difference between your 'satire' and your real viewpoints.....they're so similar.

        I know, I do have fun here sometimes and I fail to warn everyone.



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