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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 18, 2006, 02:48:04 AM
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here's where that sadist Russ decker is at now. Working for a "christian" counseling company. Wonder if they know the details of his infamous stay at CEDU?
http://www.christiancounselingservice.o ... elors.html (http://www.christiancounselingservice.org/Counselors.html)
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Jesus people. doesn't anyone give a fuck that these people are getting credit in the legitimate world after what really went on in CEDU? It's outrageous, and time may pass, but I'm not ready to forgive all. soon, maybe I'll be back to the zen state of mind i was in before diving back into my psyche and the years I was under the supervision of meatheads like that chump. I wish I had known him personally, Why? Because then I'd know where to find him.
Goddamnit, It's upsetting that CEDU is dead. Who the hell are we supposed to talk to/ about it. Aw fuck it. I guess I'll just decide to "get over it".
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So how many of you will e-mail thsi Christian Counseling Center with your stories? Here is chance to get some closure for the torture.
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when was he at CEDU? Does anyone know what facility, the dates and the program (high or jr. high?) Thanks
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He was not only a former student but also a staff member in the early 90's. I'm not sure how long he was there after 94. He was your typical bigoted jock type suffering from little dick syndrome. A person who would have fit in quite well as a member an Einsatzgruppen within the Waffen-SS. (google or wiki this if you don't get the reference) His disclosures were quite interesting and I have to wonder if he would discuss any of the things he talked (screamed) about in raps with any of his current clients. Lots of skeletons there, just ask anyonewho was in his family/team.
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i read something off of this post and I went to sleep. While I was sleeping a name came into my mind. I don't know why it's important, but it kept me up. The name is Kristen Gilja. I've never seen her name at this site, but I remeber sitting in her raps. Does anyone else remember this name/person?
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He was not only a former student but also a staff member in the early 90's. I'm not sure how long he was there after 94. He was your typical bigoted jock type suffering from little dick syndrome. A person who would have fit in quite well as a member an Einsatzgruppen within the Waffen-SS. (google or wiki this if you don't get the reference) His disclosures were quite interesting and I have to wonder if he would discuss any of the things he talked (screamed) about in raps with any of his current clients. Lots of skeletons there, just ask anyonewho was in his family/team.
Was he at the Running Springs gulag and if so jr. hi or hi?
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He was at the running springs hell-hole. He left in 2003, I think when he didn't get to move up to the high school director position. He totured strictly at the high school.
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I think I am going to email them some of the things he used to call us in raps. Screaming at a 15 year old girl that she is a whore and slut because she gave a guy a blowjob once and was still a virgin is abusive. What a way to screw up a normal interest in sex. That's really a guy I want to have work for me as a Marriage and Family Therapist Intern. They say he has "more than 15 years of experience working with adolescents and families in crisis". Wonder if he holds rap sessions with the families he works with? Or better yet, has he explained to any of the therapists he works for/with what happened in profeets or raps? I needed therapy more when I left than when I got in, and the two shrinks I saw were both appalled by what happened at CEDU.
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I knew him in Running Springs. He was a complete jackass. He didn't give a damn about helping the kids - just playing mind games and power tripping on them.
Sorry to see he's still hurting people.
here's where that sadist Russ decker is at now. Working for a "christian" counseling company. Wonder if they know the details of his infamous stay at CEDU?
http://www.christiancounselingservice.o ... elors.html (http://www.christiancounselingservice.org/Counselors.html)
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i agree i had a best friend in his family, and my poor maris, anywhoo he should burn and i wrote one, now it's up to the company to decide if they truely care about their patients.
julie
brightstrar_nMs@hotmail.com
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i read something off of this post and I went to sleep. While I was sleeping a name came into my mind. I don't know why it's important, but it kept me up. The name is Kristen Gilja. I've never seen her name at this site, but I remeber sitting in her raps. Does anyone else remember this name/person?
Ahhh....Gilja...the "natural" one...really mellow hippy style.
You probably don't read much about her in these threads as she wasn't such a nightmare compared to most of the staff.
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yeah if i recall correctly he admitted in raps, to doing a shitload of acid, setting a homeless man on fire, and raping a girl.
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That's getting me all hot and wet.
Dropping acid followed by a human bonfire to a good old fashioned rape finale.
I wish they had summer camp for that.
Is Russ a cedu grad turned staff?
Are you sure about that disclosure?
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I personally remember the acid abuse and setting the homeless man on fire....
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He graduated from Cedu in the early to mid 80's before coming to work there around 90-91. I remember that pretty clearly.
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The name is Kristen Gilja.
Yup. Friend of mine while I was there. Took her art classes. Rather mellow. Heard she became more of a "heavy" in the years after I left. A shame, really.
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Then a phone call to his employer is in order.
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I personally remember the acid abuse and setting the homeless man on fire....
Like Johnny, I also personally personally remember hearing Russ Decker confess to abusing acid and setting a homeless man on fire. Additionally, I remember hearing Russ admit to participating in several gang rapes along with his skinhead friends. That Sick Freak has no business counseling anyone.
-Son Of Serbia
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No offense to anyone who lived through Russ as a staffer, but has it occurred to anyone that Russ may have bolstered his pre-RMA tales with a fair amount of bullshit in the same way that many students bolstered their own stories. Russ was a student at RMA.
It seems very unlikely that any adolescent participated in several gang rapes, and lit a homeless man on fire and did not serve any jail time. Put on your adult lenses and ask yourself -- Does Russ' story pass the bullshit test? Is Russ Decker so brilliant that he could commit these horrible crimes and never be prosecuted for them?
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Excellent point. What a fucked up situation.
1. If he did do those things and RMA didn't call the police in his home town. That is illegal and a terrible example for kids.
2. He made those things up and staff didn't have the brains to see he was lying and allowed him to graduate with fake super disclosures. That is bonafide cult action right there my friends. Again, another terrible environment for kids.
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No offense to anyone who lived through Russ as a staffer, but has it occurred to anyone that Russ may have bolstered his pre-RMA tales with a fair amount of bullshit in the same way that many students bolstered their own stories. Russ was a student at RMA.
It seems very unlikely that any adolescent participated in several gang rapes, and lit a homeless man on fire and did not serve any jail time. Put on your adult lenses and ask yourself -- Does Russ' story pass the bullshit test? Is Russ Decker so brilliant that he could commit these horrible crimes and never be prosecuted for them?
I agree that It is indeed possible that Russ lied about these events, just as it is equally possible that Russ and his friends did in fact light the homeless man on fire, lots of crimes remain unsolved, so the fact that the police never arrested anyone doesn't surprise me one bit. It could simply be a matter that the police had no leads because no witnesses ever stepped forward. Or perhaps since the victim was a homeless nobody, the police simply didn't care (a definate possibility). Also the majority of rapes (especially 20+ years ago) go unreported, so it's very possible that the Gang Rapes Russ claimed to have participated in did indeed happen, and the victim(s) never came forward, probably due to embarassment.
Then again it could all be lies, but this begs another question:
Why on earth would someone lie about being responsible for something like this? How sick in the head would a person
have to be to do this?
Personally, I think there is some truth to these stories, although perhaps Russ embellished a bit in his story telling. Having known Russ personally, I'm convinced that he is indeed capable of rape, as well murder, both mentally and physically. But who really knows what happened except for Russ himself?
Whether Russ really did it or not, the very fact that he admitted to committing such attrocities makes him wholly unfit to council adolescents or anyone else for that matter. Russ Decker is a sick freak, period, and he has no business giving anyone else advice on how to run their lives.
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No offense to anyone who lived through Russ as a staffer, but has it occurred to anyone that Russ may have bolstered his pre-RMA tales with a fair amount of bullshit in the same way that many students bolstered their own stories. Russ was a student at RMA.
It seems very unlikely that any adolescent participated in several gang rapes, and lit a homeless man on fire and did not serve any jail time. Put on your adult lenses and ask yourself -- Does Russ' story pass the bullshit test? Is Russ Decker so brilliant that he could commit these horrible crimes and never be prosecuted for them?
I agree that It is indeed possible that Russ lied about these events, just as it is equally possible that Russ and his friends did in fact light the homeless man on fire, lots of crimes remain unsolved, so the fact that the police never arrested anyone doesn't surprise me one bit. It could simply be a matter that the police had no leads because no witnesses ever stepped forward. Or perhaps since the victim was a homeless nobody, the police simply didn't care (a definate possibility). Also the majority of rapes (especially 20+ years ago) go unreported, so it's very possible that the Gang Rapes Russ claimed to have participated in did indeed happen, and the victim(s) never came forward, probably due to embarassment.
Then again it could all be lies, but this begs another question:
Why on earth would someone lie about being responsible for something like this? How sick in the head would a person
have to be to do this?
Personally, I think there is some truth to these stories, although perhaps Russ embellished a bit in his story telling. Having known Russ personally, I'm convinced that he is indeed capable of rape, as well murder, both mentally and physically. But who really knows what happened except for Russ himself?
Whether Russ really did it or not, the very fact that he admitted to committing such attrocities makes him wholly unfit to council adolescents or anyone else for that matter. Russ Decker is a sick freak, period, and he has no business giving anyone else advice on how to run their lives.
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No offense to anyone who lived through Russ as a staffer, but has it occurred to anyone that Russ may have bolstered his pre-RMA tales with a fair amount of bullshit in the same way that many students bolstered their own stories. Russ was a student at RMA.
It seems very unlikely that any adolescent participated in several gang rapes, and lit a homeless man on fire and did not serve any jail time. Put on your adult lenses and ask yourself -- Does Russ' story pass the bullshit test? Is Russ Decker so brilliant that he could commit these horrible crimes and never be prosecuted for them?
I agree that It is indeed possible that Russ lied about these events, just as it is equally possible that Russ and his friends did in fact light the homeless man on fire, lots of crimes remain unsolved, so the fact that the police never arrested anyone doesn't surprise me one bit. It could simply be a matter that the police had no leads because no witnesses ever stepped forward. Or perhaps since the victim was a homeless nobody, the police simply didn't care (a definate possibility). Also the majority of rapes (especially 20+ years ago) go unreported, so it's very possible that the Gang Rapes Russ claimed to have participated in did indeed happen, and the victim(s) never came forward, probably due to embarassment.
Then again it could all be lies, but this begs another question:
Why on earth would someone lie about being responsible for something like this? How sick in the head would a person
have to be to do this?
Personally, I think there is some truth to these stories, although perhaps Russ embellished a bit in his story telling. Having known Russ personally, I'm convinced that he is indeed capable of rape, as well murder, both mentally and physically. But who really knows what happened except for Russ himself?
Whether Russ really did it or not, the very fact that he admitted to committing such attrocities makes him wholly unfit to council adolescents or anyone else for that matter. Russ Decker is a sick freak, period, and he has no business giving anyone else advice on how to run their lives.
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) note the 321****cove circle battery....that would be our boy Russ doing battery on his step son after breaking into his mother-inlaw's home on Christmas day...he beat the poor kid with a club in the bathroom...caught him totally offguard....broke the crapper and traumatized the family...still the same old asshole!
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) note the 321****cove circle battery....that would be our boy Russ doing battery on his step son after breaking into his mother-inlaw's home on Christmas day...he beat the poor kid with a club in the bathroom...caught him totally offguard....broke the crapper and traumatized the family...still the same old asshole!
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) seems our boy Russ decided to beat the shit out of his step son on Xmas morn and burst into his mother-in-law's unaanounced and uninvited...caught the poor kid in the crapper and beat hi with a club....some things never change...bear in my mind this guy now does "anger management" classes for the Christian Counseling Center of Redlands.
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) seems our boy Russ decided to beat the shit out of his step son on Xmas morn and burst into his mother-in-law's unaanounced and uninvited...caught the poor kid in the crapper and beat hi with a club....some things never change...bear in my mind this guy now does "anger management" classes for the Christian Counseling Center of Redlands.
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) seems our boy Russ decided to beat the shit out of his step son on Xmas morn and burst into his mother-in-law's unaanounced and uninvited...caught the poor kid in the crapper and beat hi with a club....some things never change...bear in my mind this guy now does "anger management" classes for the Christian Counseling Center of Redlands.
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) seems our boy Russ decided to beat the shit out of his step son on Xmas morn and burst into his mother-in-law's unaanounced and uninvited...caught the poor kid in the crapper and beat hi with a club....some things never change...bear in my mind this guy now does "anger management" classes for the Christian Counseling Center of Redlands.
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check out this website: http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225 (http://rimoftheworld.net/sheriff/071225) seems our boy Russ decided to beat the shit out of his step son on Xmas morn and burst into his mother-in-law's unannounced and uninvited...caught the poor kid in the crapper and beat hi with a club....some things never change...bear in my mind this guy now does "anger management" classes for the Christian Counseling Center of Redlands.
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i clicked the link and see the chronological crime index.
Do you have a better link giving details? Or can you copy/paste into fornits.
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Unfortunately, this is the only information posted at this time, but I can vouch for the fact that the attacker was Russ Decker and that he ambushed his step son at his mother-in-law's house in the bathroom causing considerable property damage per eyewitness accounts. It was a traumatic even for his in-laws as they struggled to pull Russ off his step son. His attack was premeditated as he entered the house with a club. More information will be forthcoming once a court date once a court date has been set.
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Unfortunately, this is the only information posted at this time, but I can vouch for the fact that the attacker was Russ Decker and that he ambushed his step son at his mother-in-law's house in the bathroom causing considerable property damage per eyewitness accounts. It was a traumatic even for his in-laws as they struggled to pull Russ off his step son. His attack was premeditated as he entered the house with a club. More information will be forthcoming once a court date once a court date has been set.
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Unfortunately, this is the only information posted at this time, but I can vouch for the fact that the attacker was Russ Decker and that he ambushed his step son at his mother-in-law's house in the bathroom causing considerable property damage per eyewitness accounts. It was a traumatic even for his in-laws as they struggled to pull Russ off his step son. His attack was premeditated as he entered the house with a club. More information will be forthcoming once a court date once a court date has been set.
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when i clicked the link I didn't see any of the information you mentioned about Russ.
Please keep us updated.
Can you specify where on that page his incident is mentioned????
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this is the email i just sent them:
Hello,
I attended CEDU School, Russ Decker's former employer, in the early 1990s and am now undergoing extensive therapy, 15 years later, as an adult to try and undo the massive psychological abuse I endured during my 2 and a half year stay there. They lied to my parents about their techniques, and lied to me telling me they knew what went on. My parents are appalled and distraught to find, 15 years later, that they had been so deceived. I have spent all this time thinking my parents intended for me to be abused there and am now trying to repair some of the damage that all that mistrust has caused in our relationship.
I want to know if you are using any of the techniques that were modeled at CEDU such as raps where students are instructed to scream at eachother and the floor as a form of emotional purging, propheets or all night emotional growth experiences where children are brainwashed into identifying themselves as the worst possible aspect of whatever mishaps have landed them in program (15 year old girls who were sexually active being trained to psychologically identify themselves as a slut or a whore, for example), and the ongoing use of shame and humiliation as a form of behavior modification. Russ Decker was one of the many counselors during my stay who lacked the judgment and compassion required to accurately assess the long term effect of the 'methods' used at the CEDU program, and so I fear for the emotional and psychological well being of the young people who are in your care.
I hope that you will take this email seriously. I am currently in the process of researching and exposing every school that uses these harmful and abusive techniques and plan to challenge the current California 2 year statute of limitation on claims for this sort of abuse as it has taken me, as I mentioned before, 15 years to even come out of denial from the abuse and trauma I suffered there. I will not bore you with the litany of ways my life has been delayed and sabotaged as a result of their training, but if you and your organization use any of these techniques please let me inform you of their horrifically destructive effects and implore you to change philosophies. Please also be aware that part of my campaign includes revealing the methods of every one of these 'schools' to the parents of the children who attend them. No one has the right to do something to someones child and lie to the parent about it. That is molestation, that is abuse in itself.
I look forward to your response and hope earnestly that you are neither unaware of Mr. Decker's tainted past nor have you overlooked the cruelty of his former methods. I truly hope that you do not use any of these abusive techniques, but more than that, I hope that if you do you are honest enough to realize it and stop.
Sincerely,
Alia Weiner
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Unfortunately, this is the only information posted at this time, but I can vouch for the fact that the attacker was Russ Decker and that he ambushed his step son at his mother-in-law's house in the bathroom causing considerable property damage per eyewitness accounts. It was a traumatic even for his in-laws as they struggled to pull Russ off his step son. His attack was premeditated as he entered the house with a club. More information will be forthcoming once a court date once a court date has been set.
We've already established here that Russ Decker is a self-admitted rapist and murderer, so this doesn't surprise me one bit. In fact, this is exactly the sort of behavior I would expect from a sick freak like Russ.
What did surprise me however, is that somewhere out there Russ found a single mother desperate enough to marry him! Well I guess by now she's seen the error of her ways, at least I hope she has. Maybe she wised up, saw Russ for what he really is, and left him. This would certainly explain why Russ wasn't welcome at his in-laws house on Christmas Day. Is this what motivated Russ to attack his wife's son? Was Russ trying to hurt his wife through her child? I'm really interested in hearing the facts behind this case.
On a personal note, I can't even begin to relate how disgusted I am with this piece of shit. It's bad enough that Russ needed a club to beat up an adolescent boy. It's even worse that Russ waited until his stepson was taking a shit before attacking him; thereby making sure that the poor kid had absolutely no chance of defending himself. Seriously, what a fucking coward Russ Decker is! This asshole needs to be taken off the street once and for all. Russ belongs in jail. I sincerely hope that the judge throws the book at him, and that justice is finally served. This is long overdue.
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Serb, write an email.
Alia--hats off to you.
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Serb, write an email.
Alia--hats off to you.
Now that was a fast response! I will gladly write an email to Russ Decker's employer. Do you happen to have the Email address handy?
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I don't know. But apparently, Alia does.
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I'll be sure to ask Alia for the address the next time I hear from her.
On another note, I did a little bit of checking on google, and I managed to tie Russ Decker's name to the address on the police report cited earlier. Check the following link for the California Unclaimed Funds website:
http://www.unclaimedfundsprocessing.com ... rnia5.html (http://www.unclaimedfundsprocessing.com/expiringlists/california5.html)
If you scroll down the list (and it is a very, very, long list) you will find the following:
Russ K. Decker
32172 Cove Circle
Running Springs, CA. 92382
Apparently, the address listed on the report was in fact
Russ Decker's legal address at some time. But wait a minute, isn't this supposed to be his in-laws house? I guess that Russ must have fallen on some pretty hard times if he had to live off
of his in-laws! It is a well known fact that Cedu didn't pay their staff shit, so this scenario is totally plausible.
Man, Russ is an even bigger loser than I thought! His in-laws were charitable enough to open their home to Russ and support his dead beat ass....And how did Russ show his gratitude?...By breaking down his in-laws door on Christmas Morning, and beating the hell out of their grandson with semi-lethal weapon, while he was shitting no less! And let's not forget that Russ works for a CHRISTIAN family councling center! Of all the days to terrorize his family (soon to be ex-family hopefully), Russ picked the most revered and holiest of Christian Holidays....CHRISTMAS! Un-fucking-believable! Truly this shitbag named Russ Decker
has no shame.
Seriously, Alia give me that email address for Russ's employer. i've got plenty of shit to say to them!
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I am a close friend of the family, and I know exactly what happened that day. On Christmas a.m. for an unknown reason, Russ went to look for his gun and could not find it. He called his mother-in-law and wanted to speak with his step-son accusing him of stealing his gun without any evidence.
Russ and his wife are living in the in-laws former home and his father-in-law, (now deceased) had a gun collection. His mother-in-law had recently taken all of her husbands guns and possibly, accidently Russ' too, to her home. She tried to explain this to Russ on the phone, but he hung up on her.
He took deceased father-in-laws (who was a police officer) nightstick (a lethal weapon) and ran down the street bursting into his in-laws house and into the bathroom where his step-son was getting ready to take a shower (not a shit) and proceded to beat the hell out of him with the club. His mother-in-law and sister-in-law were screaming at him and trying to hold onto his arms trying to stop him from killing his step-son. In the process, he destroyed the bathroom, broke the toilet, and several antiques that he now refuses to pay for.
Russ has hated his step-son for several years and kicked him out of his house when he was 16 years old, to live on the streets. He also at that time threw away and gave away his step-son's possesions. His step-son is now living at his mother-in-laws house. Russ has always been very erratic and had anger management problems. As of today, Russ and his wife are still together and planning a nice vacation together in a few weeks. sick! This man is a waste of flesh and should be taken off the streets and out of employment where he is currently able to damage the lives of young children. That's right, he currently is employed at a Christian Counseling Center and teaches anger management classes. Right....What a joke this man is not even a Christian. I wonder if his employer knows any of this???
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Sire they do!!
that's why he got the job.