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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:02:16 PM

Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:02:16 PM
By all means, don't smoke.  Instead, I have a very special brownie recipe for you...
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:12:36 PM
So go outside & smoke.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:25:04 PM
Well, he ~shouldn't have to breathe that if he doesn't want to. I used to hate it when my parents smoked. You're welcome.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on October 06, 2006, 11:26:44 PM
L-O-S-E-R-S Thats what you are....Jealous of everyone around you....Kicking little puppies because they are cuter than you will ever be......Flys get laid more than you do.....Food Stamps don't go far....Sellin beat bags of crack to support your mommas habits....You lust over little boys....Stop staring at the bulges in mens pants....I am sorry your penis is so small and skinny....Why don't the whores get in your car anymore?......You love county jail because you always get raped in the showers....You give up your loose asshole for commissary.....You were born a crack baby....No one knows your daddy...Your momma slept with 5 men the night you were conceived.....She was to poor to get the abortion....I am sorry your so fucking lonely...It must be because your so ugly...You were beat up in school because you smelled...Kids in gym said your underware were brown and yellow.....Sorry but face it you are a L-O-S-E-R....
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:29:31 PM
Yeah, we KNOW about DARE...but so far you haven't said anything except that he asked you not to smoke around him. BFD.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
I don't think u guys understand.  This DARE thing is not a game.  I guess I assumed too much understanding....This is an extension of STR8,  Heloooooooo,   Anyone there??? Eudora/Antigen/Ginger...they are screwing with my SON now.  this is not cool.  r u the only one who understands??

You could elaborate a little more.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: ""Dr. Miller Newton""
L-O-S-E-R-S Thats what you are....Jealous of everyone around you....Kicking little puppies because they are cuter than you will ever be......Flys get laid more than you do.....Food Stamps don't go far....Sellin beat bags of crack to support your mommas habits....You lust over little boys....Stop staring at the bulges in mens pants....I am sorry your penis is so small and skinny....Why don't the whores get in your car anymore?......You love county jail because you always get raped in the showers....You give up your loose asshole for commissary.....You were born a crack baby....No one knows your daddy...Your momma slept with 5 men the night you were conceived.....She was to poor to get the abortion....I am sorry your so fucking lonely...It must be because your so ugly...You were beat up in school because you smelled...Kids in gym said your underware were brown and yellow.....Sorry but face it you are a L-O-S-E-R....

 ::bwahaha::  ::kma::  :scared:  ::both::  :wave:  :flame:  :rofl:  :evil:  :skull:  :P  ::rainbow::  ::bwahaha::  :nworthy:  ::rocker::  :smokin:
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:32:44 PM
::bangin::  ::both::  ::bangin::  ::both::  ::bangin::  ::both::  ::kma::  ::kma::  ::kma::  ::kma::  ::mecry::  ::mecry::  ::boohoo::  ::boohoo::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::
Title: Re: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:32:48 PM
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
OK my 10 year old son has just come home from his first encounter with "DARE".  Now he is even questioning his mommy..He is very upset that he has been subjected to "second hand smoke" since I smoke cigagrettes occasionally.  Wow.  I thought Str8 had something going.  They have actually got our children feeding into this collective mindset.  I am beside myself.  Now I am a 'bad person'.  this is killing me.
I should mention he is a fifth grader . He loves his mommy but is struggling to find himself at the same time. (perfect time for them to target our children)


Tell him it just goes to show that you can't trust authority.  Explain to him the meaning of the word "propaganda" and tell him that our country has been infiltrated by authoritarian assholes who have no respect for the freedoms guaranteed to us in the Constitution.  Tell him to trust himself and those who have proven themselves trustworthy.  Teach him what the old adage "take it with a grain of salt" refers to.  Teach him to question authority and think for himself.  Explain to him that yes, Mommy smokes sometimes, and while it isn't the healthiest thing she could do, the greater evil is when authority tries to tell infromed adults how to run their private lives.  Instill in your child a healthy distrust of police, teachers, government, religion, and other authority figures, and to question them rather than follow them blindly.  Tell him about the KGB in Soviet Russia, the Gestapo in NAzi Germany, and the DEA in the United States of America.  It sounds like he's at the age where he needs to know that the government is not to be trusted.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:33:27 PM
hey, cut that out.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:33:47 PM
No, not you.
Title: Re: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2006, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
OK my 10 year old son has just come home from his first encounter with "DARE".  Now he is even questioning his mommy..He is very upset that he has been subjected to "second hand smoke" since I smoke cigagrettes occasionally.  Wow.  I thought Str8 had something going.  They have actually got our children feeding into this collective mindset.  I am beside myself.  Now I am a 'bad person'.  this is killing me.
I should mention he is a fifth grader . He loves his mommy but is struggling to find himself at the same time. (perfect time for them to target our children)

Tell him it just goes to show that you can't trust authority.  Explain to him the meaning of the word "propaganda" and tell him that our country has been infiltrated by authoritarian assholes who have no respect for the freedoms guaranteed to us in the Constitution.  Tell him to trust himself and those who have proven themselves trustworthy.  Teach him what the old adage "take it with a grain of salt" refers to.  Teach him to question authority and think for himself.  Explain to him that yes, Mommy smokes sometimes, and while it isn't the healthiest thing she could do, the greater evil is when authority tries to tell infromed adults how to run their private lives.  Instill in your child a healthy distrust of police, teachers, government, religion, and other authority figures, and to question them rather than follow them blindly.  Tell him about the KGB in Soviet Russia, the Gestapo in NAzi Germany, and the DEA in the United States of America.  It sounds like he's at the age where he needs to know that the government is not to be trusted.

There you go. You've gotten some good advice. Happy now? Now keep the goddamn cigs away from your son so he doesn't have to breathe that shit.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 07, 2006, 12:57:21 AM
Survivor, are you really surprised? I'm disapointed. I thought you were pretty familiar with psyops.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2006, 02:20:51 PM
Start smoking cigarettes (and pot) with your son.  Kids are naturally rebellious, so he'll like that aspect, plus, he won't feel left out when you light up around him.  You should tell him that, no, cigarettes aren't good for you, they are very unhealthy, but that there's so much other toxic shit in our environment that something's gonna get you sooner or later, even if you didn't smoke, so you might as well. Tell him that cigarettes are legal but pot isn't because the government doesn't like people to think for themselves, they want you to do as you're told.   Make sure he realizes that police are NOT his friends, tell him he has much more to fear from government and police than he does from minority groups that live in other parts of town.  Make sure he knows that cops carry weapons NOT to protect him or Mommy & Daddy, but in case the cop feels like killing Mommy , Daddy, or little boys just like him. Explain to him him that the amount and kinds of toxic chemicals put into the air by the cars driven to his school by the DARE counselors and cops are far more dangerous than your cigarette smoking is, and that DARE singles out smokers because they are a minority group, making them an easy target.   Teach him how drugs and drug users have been scapegoated for many problems in our country, and that the real casue of many social ills is drug prohibition.   Above all, teach him that authority is to be questioned, not trusted, and that anything that comes out of a policeman's mouth is a lie.
Buy him a BB gun and some targets that look like uniformed policemen as a rewrd for him once you are sure he understands that he is not to trust the government, police,  teachers, or religious institutions, only himself.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2006, 02:46:16 PM
Tell you son all about the polutions everywhere. The garbage that he eats, sodas and candy and many other things cause damage to the body, even carpet has famaldayde fumes in it. Let him know how awful people have made this world. Admit to him that you smoking is a horrible thing and maybe someday he can help you to quit. But also let him know that with all this toxic polution that we have freedom. So it is improper to force beliefs apon others. We have the freedom to do what we want with our bodies. Let him know that if DARE wants him to take a drug test that its his freedom to say no!

My child went through the same stuff. She is 16 years old now and wow she is strong with who she wants to be as a person in society. She knows all about my experience with Straight. She knows what and who DARE is.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Fr. Cassian on October 07, 2006, 03:20:28 PM
Your son is right, Str6survivorVa, youare a bad person.  A bad parent as well.  You need a little refresher at SIBS to get you back in the fold of the program.  Only through SIBS will you be able to regain your self-esteem, competence, family relationship, productive work, postive use of your leisure time, and social responsibility.  Cigarette smoking is a gateway to heroin use,  with LSD, PCP, hash, crack cocaine, crystal meth, nitrous oxide, model glue, whjite out, and paint thinner in between.  Help yourself and your son by enrolling the two of you in SIBS today!
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Dr Phil on October 07, 2006, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Start smoking cigarettes (and pot) with your son.  Kids are naturally rebellious, so he'll like that aspect, plus, he won't feel left out when you light up around him.  You should tell him that, no, cigarettes aren't good for you, they are very unhealthy, but that there's so much other toxic shit in our environment that something's gonna get you sooner or later, even if you didn't smoke, so you might as well. Tell him that cigarettes are legal but pot isn't because the government doesn't like people to think for themselves, they want you to do as you're told.   Make sure he realizes that police are NOT his friends, tell him he has much more to fear from government and police than he does from minority groups that live in other parts of town.  Make sure he knows that cops carry weapons NOT to protect him or Mommy & Daddy, but in case the cop feels like killing Mommy , Daddy, or little boys just like him. Explain to him him that the amount and kinds of toxic chemicals put into the air by the cars driven to his school by the DARE counselors and cops are far more dangerous than your cigarette smoking is, and that DARE singles out smokers because they are a minority group, making them an easy target.   Teach him how drugs and drug users have been scapegoated for many problems in our country, and that the real casue of many social ills is drug prohibition.   Above all, teach him that authority is to be questioned, not trusted, and that anything that comes out of a policeman's mouth is a lie.
Buy him a BB gun and some targets that look like uniformed policemen as a rewrd for him once you are sure he understands that he is not to trust the government, police,  teachers, or religious institutions, only himself.


 :P  :nworthy:
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2006, 07:32:09 PM
I can relate to you SURVIVOR. My son came home from school after attending his sex education class. He said that he learned that the people who look at the  pictures I have on my computer are called pedofiles. Can you believe the gaul of the education system?

Your statement is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time-
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: 001010 on October 07, 2006, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
So go outside & smoke.


 I concur.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 07, 2006, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Start smoking cigarettes (and pot) with your son.  Kids are naturally rebellious, so he'll like that aspect, plus, he won't feel left out when you light up around him.  You should tell him that, no, cigarettes aren't good for you, they are very unhealthy, but that there's so much other toxic shit in our environment that something's gonna get you sooner or later, even if you didn't smoke, so you might as well. Tell him that cigarettes are legal but pot isn't because the government doesn't like people to think for themselves, they want you to do as you're told.   Make sure he realizes that police are NOT his friends, tell him he has much more to fear from government and police than he does from minority groups that live in other parts of town.  Make sure he knows that cops carry weapons NOT to protect him or Mommy & Daddy, but in case the cop feels like killing Mommy , Daddy, or little boys just like him. Explain to him him that the amount and kinds of toxic chemicals put into the air by the cars driven to his school by the DARE counselors and cops are far more dangerous than your cigarette smoking is, and that DARE singles out smokers because they are a minority group, making them an easy target.   Teach him how drugs and drug users have been scapegoated for many problems in our country, and that the real casue of many social ills is drug prohibition.   Above all, teach him that authority is to be questioned, not trusted, and that anything that comes out of a policeman's mouth is a lie.
Buy him a BB gun and some targets that look like uniformed policemen as a rewrd for him once you are sure he understands that he is not to trust the government, police,  teachers, or religious institutions, only himself.


 :nworthy:
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 08, 2006, 01:24:21 AM
Tell your kid to stay out of churches and make him swear to never cooperate with any law enforcement agency.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: NAILBOMB on October 08, 2006, 05:28:20 AM
Have him watch this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlsuBfi ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlsuBfin-U&mode=related&search=)
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: NAILBOMB on October 08, 2006, 05:33:47 AM
Quote
tell him he has much more to fear from government and police than he does from minority groups that live in other parts of town. Make sure he knows that cops carry weapons NOT to protect him or Mommy & Daddy, but in case the cop feels like killing Mommy , Daddy, or little boys just like him. Explain to him him that the amount and kinds of toxic chemicals put into the air by the cars driven to his school by the DARE counselors and cops are far more dangerous than your cigarette smoking is, and that DARE singles out smokers because they are a minority group, making them an easy target. Teach him how drugs and drug users have been scapegoated for many problems in our country, and that the real casue of many social ills is drug prohibition. Above all, teach him that authority is to be questioned, not trusted, and that anything that comes out of a policeman's mouth is a lie.


Bingo
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 08, 2006, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: ""NAILBOMB""
Have him watch this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlsuBfi ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlsuBfin-U&mode=related&search=)



that was a stupid fucking song
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on October 08, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
Defend your children against mental slavery, "...none but ourselves can free our minds"  

..."Chant Down Babylon"
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 08, 2006, 01:10:47 PM
A-Men!
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: 001010 on October 08, 2006, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Defend your children against mental slavery, "...none but ourselves can free our minds"  

..."Chant Down Babylon"


Exactly.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Carmel on October 08, 2006, 03:01:47 PM
Dont let your kid see you squirm over this, number one.  Dont falter.  The idea is to educate them properly, and with a full perspective, not just the narrow dogma DARE is gonna inject him with.  This is your chance to begin teaching him crtical thinking about what hes going to encounter from the thought police from now on.  I agree, that informing him of the overall reality of polutions in the environment and within the food items and manufactured goods we use everyday is a good start (be sure to use concrete examples) however, this doesnt make you free from responsibility in your own contribution, namely smoking cigarettes.  Make a compromise, smoke outside (which I think smokers should do anyway, smoking inside makes everything reak and turns stuff yellow) and maybe switch to a brand of smokes like "American Spirirt"....they use none of the additives in their product which is not only good for you, but the environment as well (make sure you explain this to him too)....this way, you set a good example in taking some initiative while retaining your right to make a choice as an adult.  Above all else this will hopefully foster MUTUAL RESPECT between you and your child, something which in the upcoming years will be an infinately more attractive option than the one sided authoritarianism hes going to get from the mind cops.

If we dont teach our children to co-exist with reality ourselves....there isnt anywhere else for them to go except the dark side.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 08, 2006, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: ""Carmel""
Dont let your kid see you squirm over this, number one.  Dont falter.  The idea is to educate them properly, and with a full perspective, not just the narrow dogma DARE is gonna inject him with.  This is your chance to begin teaching him crtical thinking about what hes going to encounter from the thought police from now on.  I agree, that informing him of the overall reality of polutions in the environment and within the food items and manufactured goods we use everyday is a good start (be sure to use concrete examples) however, this doesnt make you free from responsibility in your own contribution, namely smoking cigarettes.  Make a compromise, smoke outside (which I think smokers should do anyway, smoking inside makes everything reak and turns stuff yellow) and maybe switch to a brand of smokes like "American Spirirt"....they use none of the additives in their product which is not only good for you, but the environment as well (make sure you explain this to him too)....this way, you set a good example in taking some initiative while retaining your right to make a choice as an adult.  Above all else this will hopefully foster MUTUAL RESPECT between you and your child, something which in the upcoming years will be an infinately more attractive option than the one sided authoritarianism hes going to get from the mind cops.

If we dont teach our children to co-exist with reality ourselves....there isnt anywhere else for them to go except the dark side.


 :nworthy:

Do it now, before it's too late....




http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/flor ... ryid=66116 (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=66116)

Okaloosa County Students Offered Rewards For Tips

NICEVILLE, FL (AP) -- Students in Okaloosa County can earn up to $500 for telling police who keyed cars, who's got drugs and other crime information.

Emerald Coast Crime Stoppers has partnered with the Okaloosa County School District to offer students a way to anonymously "snitch" about criminal activity in their schools and neighborhoods.

Students Crime Stoppers pays cash rewards to those who provide lawmen with tips that lead to arrests and school disciplinary action. And it's all anonymous.

The reward for giving information on a student who's hiding cigarettes in his locker: 50 bucks. A tip that someone brought a weapon to school: 500 dollars.

The program has been in place for three years now, but the school district is putting up posters and handing out brochures to get students more involved.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 08, 2006, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: ""Carmel""
Above all else this will hopefully foster MUTUAL RESPECT between you and your child, something which in the upcoming years will be an infinately more attractive option than the one sided authoritarianism hes going to get from the mind cops.


A-Men!
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 16, 2006, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
As an aside, though, I think the responses on this thread have been very interesting, telling, and somewhat ironic, given the nature of this forum.


Ironic how? Telling of what?
Title: Re: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2006, 09:26:43 AM
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
Thank you. The issue was not the smoking.  It was about the Agenda. Which has become an accepted and even embraced aspect of the public school system (at least here my 'neck of the woods').  How did this happen? We, as straight survivors, I would like to think, are more aware of what is happening to us sociologically, than most.  I am regularly receiving notices from his school on how I should be "advising" my own child.  Checklists, tutorials, instructions, and the like.  WTF???

Officer Dan's second visit last week provided him with the enlightenment that marijana is a "very addictive" illegal drug that his parents may very well be addicted to.  He has literally woken up several times after bedtime since the good officer's visit and come down to check on his mommy and daddy to make sure that they are 'ok' and have not fallen victim to this evil affliction.

Not complaing here guys.  Just looking for the manual on this stuff.  I must have misplaced it since I was obviously smoking crack when I should have been at a PTA meeting.

Funny stuff there; maybe you should lay off the crack a little? Yeah, that DARE stuff is pure crap... & that's pretty much common knowledge (at least it is here) by now. Your OP seemed to be more about the smoking issue than the DARE thing.
Title: Re: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Antigen on October 28, 2006, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
Not complaing here guys.  Just looking for the manual on this stuff.  I must have misplaced it since I was obviously smoking crack when I should have been at a PTA meeting.

Legitimately, legitimately.... I guess most if not all of us rents have come up against this either gradually or by surprise.

Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
Thank you. The issue was not the smoking.  It was about the Agenda. Which has become an accepted and even embraced aspect of the public school system (at least here my 'neck of the woods').  How did this happen? We, as straight survivors, I would like to think, are more aware of what is happening to us sociologically, than most.  I am regularly receiving notices from his school on how I should be "advising" my own child.  Checklists, tutorials, instructions, and the like.  WTF???

Officer Dan's second visit last week provided him with the enlightenment that marijana is a "very addictive" illegal drug that his parents may very well be addicted to.  He has literally woken up several times after bedtime since the good officer's visit and come down to check on his mommy and daddy to make sure that they are 'ok' and have not fallen victim to this evil affliction.


I guess I've played it differently than you have. Not sure if my way has been any better or not. Maybe all our kids will have to make that call some years from now. But I've been openly suspicious of the agenda all along. Paranoia or prescience? Either way, it's often been contentious because the DARE cop et al get the kids all stoked up for this shit, asif it's a great gift, lots of fun, something to aspire to, etc. and I seem to shit on just about everything they come home with.

I just think it's a dirty rotten trick to withhold vital information from a kid till they grow up and have to figure it all out for themselves. But that's just me. I'm was the pain in the ass kid always demanding to know why and getting pissed off when the grown ups patronized me w/ fairy tale answers.

Seems to me that you've not clued the kid in on those adult issues. You've taught him to trust his teachers and cops and such. And why not? Till very recently, that's just what you believed. But now, as you're deprograming yourself you're going to have to teach bring him along with you. But gently!

I wish I knew exactly how to do that. But I hope, at least, it's helpful to you to have a sounding board here.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2006, 03:38:27 PM
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If we dont teach our children to co-exist with reality ourselves....there isnt anywhere else for them to go except the dark side.


yeah if you're still too busy making more money than anyone ever needed to home school him he is going to have to "co-exist" with the reality you have decided he has to live in because you have decided you have to live in it. think outside the box you live in.
Title: Help What do I do with my son
Post by: Carmel on October 31, 2006, 08:50:42 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
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If we dont teach our children to co-exist with reality ourselves....there isnt anywhere else for them to go except the dark side.

yeah if you're still too busy making more money than anyone ever needed to home school him he is going to have to "co-exist" with the reality you have decided he has to live in because you have decided you have to live in it. think outside the box you live in.


I think this is a good thought, but still not on the mark.  Creating an environment we as parents can control, i.e. homeschooling....isnt going to protect them from society at large no matter what sacrifices we make in order to attempt it.  I think its a incredibly more viable option for academic education these days than what our sorry dollars are getting in the public school system, for sure.....but we arent really talking academics here.  If little Johnny doesnt get it from the DARE folk, he'll be getting from every other thought patrol orifice he comes in contact with.  I think changing the reality of his exposure is not the answer.....but arming him with the knowledge of what that exposure REALLY stands for is the key.  See, these days youve got to be a sneaky as the Pot-Nazis......

Think outside the box, indeed.
Title: No more words.
Post by: Bluechair666 on November 03, 2006, 12:03:50 PM
The time for words is through. Show your child that you really care about him, enough to protect him from the evils of the world. Invite officer Dan over for dinner, and beat him to death in your living room, while your son watches. Then tell him, that's what happens to liars son, and you should never hold back your anger and never trust anyone with a badge, because those things are what is bad for you. Isn't it curious that you are so busy making money to take care of your son, that you don't have time to educate him yourself?