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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 02, 2006, 08:46:17 PM
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Has anyone here been able to avoid TBS after Wilderness?
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Why do you want to set your kid up to fail? I suggest rapid placement in wilderness for any teen showing signs of disobedience, followed with at least one year of TBS. I followed this route for my kids -- and they thank me for it -- it worked for us. Give yourself a break from those bratty kids, and let someone else deal with them for a change.
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Thanks for the advice Karen. I really need some emotional support. Can you reccemend any programs in particular? How about Escort Services?
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You are naive. You will never find emotional support in this life. Start a physical activity, like running. You could also start drinking, or any combination or the two.
I recommend Carlbrook. Actually, the program was quite strong academically and there was no set-backs in that area. Never was a social problem and there certainly is not post-program. There was plenty of interaction with peers at the program- most from similar backgrounds.
Kid was in program for 1 year- long enough to mature and learn to make better choices.
Do you really think that while kids are in these programs that the parents just enjoy a long vacation? A lot of therapeutic work is going on in the family- both in connection with the program and at home.
I can not emphasize enough to innocent parents who might stumble onto this thread while searching for help with their teens that these anti-program people who post here do not have even the slightest grasp of reality.
Hiring escorts was one of the most "humane" things we ever did for our son. We had lost control. We could not possibly have gotten him to a program without him running from us and perhaps being lost to us forever. The compassionate, professional escorts we hired had an extremely difficult time transporting our son, but they never once gave up or abused him in any way, even when he nearly killed them and himself by grabbing the steering wheel of the car from the backseat. My son never questioned our use of escorts, even in his anger at being in wilderness and later at TBS. Today we are the proud parents of a student-athlete who is achieving his full potential.
The escorts we used were the best. Unlike the mediocre companies, they used a stun baton instead of mace in the removal process. It lessened the risk of any of us being harmed during the removal, and we didn't have to clean anything up (last time the escorts used mace). I cannot reccomend a specific company on this board, the scum-scuking, ankle biters will cause a raucus.
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Karen, what is your opinion of Lon Woodbury? Should I hire him to find the proper programs? Can he reccemend an Escort Service?
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Has anyone here been able to avoid TBS after Wilderness?
Unfortunately not. Toxic Bowel Syndrome, closely related to IBS, can not be avoided.
It appears to be caused by a diet of raw grains and beans, extreme bowel twisting stress and further complicated by long-term exposure to bowel chilling cold temperatures.
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I give it 6. Not original, trivially lame.
Julie
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When are you going to get over your obsession with impersonatiing Karen? What's the point? So you got bored and set up a thread so you can play Karen. Are you allowed to use the computers during recess, Paulie?
Time to grow up, kiddies.[/u]
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:rofl: :rofl:
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When are you going to get over your obsession with impersonatiing Karen? What's the point? So you got bored and set up a thread so you can play Karen. Are you allowed to use the computers during recess, Paulie?
Time to grow up, kiddies.[/u]
how's your broken leg, cunt? what about your figs? GET A LIFE, LOSER!!
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Leg is good, dickhead. Eating my figs as we speak.
Do you not care about making a total ass of yourself? I have this mental image of a fat slob sitting in front of a keyboard in stretched out tighty whities with a big gut hanging over the wasteband. Greasy hair, dirty glasses. No friends. Yep, the picture of fornits. Mr. Luke/Paul/Miketoast
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Leg is good, dickhead. Eating my figs as we speak.
Do you not care about making a total ass of yourself? I have this mental image of a fat slob sitting in front of a keyboard in stretched out tighty whities with a big gut hanging over the wasteband. Greasy hair, dirty glasses. No friends. Yep, the picture of fornits. Mr. Luke/Paul/Miketoast
(http://http://thelastminute.typepad.com/blog/images/image-6.jpg)
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Leg is good, dickhead. Eating my figs as we speak.
Do you not care about making a total ass of yourself? I have this mental image of a fat slob sitting in front of a keyboard in stretched out tighty whities with a big gut hanging over the wasteband. Greasy hair, dirty glasses. No friends. Yep, the picture of fornits. Mr. Luke/Paul/Miketoast
i have an image of a total loser with no life posing as different types of parents, an edcon, etc. lady, you've already been called out as a complete fraud. that's why you stopped using your (various) screennames ("brokenlegNO, "wildfig" etc).
get a life, cunt! you spend more time here than the people you complain about. on top of that you make up a whole fantasy world for yourself while you pimp programs. STFU already. no wonder you're lonely loser. you're worse that a troubled teen. you're a LOSER ADULT.
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I'm not a lady. I told you- no cunt. I have a dick. Do you? Whoa- is THAT your dick? No wonder you have so many issues.
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I'm not a lady. I told you- no cunt. I have a dick. Do you? Whoa- is THAT your dick? No wonder you have so many issues.
i know what you SAID, but you are a LIAR. your IP is the same as when you pst with your "other" identities.
so, first quit lying about everything including your sex and second, GET A LIFE.
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I am not Karen, despite how badly you want me to be. Yes, Interlochen is a boarding school. It is hardly in the same category of the places discussed on this forum. The kids who attended Interlochen from my home town went through a rigorous audition and were chosen from hundreds of applicants. When you run out of bullshit to spew, you really reach, don't you? Very amusing. One can only hope you realize how foolish you appear. You're drowning, child- run on back to shore.
why don't you log in, brokenlegNO, wildfig or whatever you're calling yourself today?
the fig is back and still lying like a rug.
you are one of the most pathetic losers to ever post on this site, fig.
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I thought I was Karen? Now I'm Fig. Can't make up your mind, can you?
Speaking of pathetic losers. Fornits collects them.
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I thought I was Karen? Now I'm Fig. Can't make up your mind, can you?
Speaking of pathetic losers. Fornits collects them.
no, i didn't think you were karen. i was correcting that poster and letting them know who you REALLY are. which, of course you'd like desperately to hide because you wouldn't want it getting out to your friends and family about the kind of behaviors you show here.
YOU are part of the fornits collection, honey. you're a centerpiece. funny how you act like what you propose to loathe. let me guess, you're a republican?
remember, every time you post, you put me one step closer to outing you by name and address for the whole world to see. i bet you'd be pretty embarrassed if that happened, huh?
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I thought I was Karen? Now I'm Fig. Can't make up your mind, can you?
Speaking of pathetic losers. Fornits collects them.
no, i didn't think you were karen. i was correcting that poster and letting them know who you REALLY are. which, of course you'd like desperately to hide because you wouldn't want it getting out to your friends and family about the kind of behaviors you show here.
YOU are part of the fornits collection, honey. you're a centerpiece. funny how you act like what you propose to loathe. let me guess, you're a republican?
remember, every time you post, you put me one step closer to outing you by name and address for the whole world to see. i bet you'd be pretty embarrassed if that happened, huh?
where'd fig go? this is what happened last time she was called on the carpet for being a poser too. she sure loves to shoot her mouth off, lie and degrade people, but when she gets called on it she disappears, just like KarenInDallas. birds of a feather...
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Let me explain something to you- when people disappear from here, it isn't because you have "won" in some way. It is because the entertainment value of seeing how the bottom dregs of society engage themselves fades. One needs to return to higher levels of intellect and socialization. This is just a diversion for parents- not a way of life the way it is for you regulars. You have scored NO points whatsoever. You think you know who is posting- you don't have a clue. I assure you. Search IP addresses all you want. Waste your time. Idiot.
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Let me explain something to you- when people disappear from here, it isn't because you have "won" in some way. It is because the entertainment value of seeing how the bottom dregs of society engage themselves fades. One needs to return to higher levels of intellect and socialization. This is just a diversion for parents- not a way of life the way it is for you regulars. You have scored NO points whatsoever. You think you know who is posting- you don't have a clue. I assure you. Search IP addresses all you want. Waste your time. Idiot.
Wow! You are so... pathetic. :rofl:
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Let me explain something to you- when people disappear from here, it isn't because you have "won" in some way. It is because the entertainment value of seeing how the bottom dregs of society engage themselves fades. One needs to return to higher levels of intellect and socialization. This is just a diversion for parents- not a way of life the way it is for you regulars. You have scored NO points whatsoever. You think you know who is posting- you don't have a clue. I assure you. Search IP addresses all you want. Waste your time. Idiot.
The simple fact you generalize tens of thousands of teens shows your idiocy. You are gravely uninformed, and obvious unexperienced. Your hate for yourself shows quite clear, however.
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Oops- you forgot to change your login back. Remember, as "KareninDallas" you are supposed to be a parent. Better edit that, quick.
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Are you trying to say that Carlbrook and Swift River are bad, abusive programs? Yes, Carlbrook requires wilderness prior to enrollment. It does not have to be SUWS. Hidden Lake has its own captive wilderness program. These schools have strong academics, excellent therapists and are well-run and safe. Are there imperfections with the programs? Sure. Show me a school- any kind of school- that is perfect.
The young man who left Carlbrook at 18 (in your link) is but one voice. Do you really think he is representative?
I am not going to go into the licensing debate. There are many reasons why a business of ANY kind chooses to resist licensing requirements. I have been involved in these kind of disputes in totally unrelated industries. It does not mean that they have something to hide or want to run an abusive organization.
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Can't handle real questions from a real adult, guest? Go back to school, kiddies.
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Can't handle real questions from a real adult, guest? Go back to school, kiddies.
what "real questions"? all i see is some loser lowlife that has nothing better to do than antagonize abused kids.
you admit that this is "entertainment" for you. how truly sick and disturbed you are. amazing.
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Let me explain something to you- when people disappear from here, it isn't because you have "won" in some way.
Oh yes it is. Karen's kid found out that Karen was posting every detail of his pathetic existence on the WWWeb and forced her to remover her posts. That's called a "win" in my book.
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I suspect she took down her posts for reasons totally unrelated to her kid. As you might have noticed, the thousands and thousands of kids who have successfully moved on post-program and are in college or finishing up high school don't bother to visit this site.
You might also notice that whoever you thought Karen was has not responded to you in many months. I guess this is why you feel the need to impersonate her. Isn't it time for a Leslie or Jena or Mose log-in since your anger seems to need the outlet of dumping all over the ST posters. I think it is hilarious how bothered you are by Karen taking down her posts. Talk about a WIN!
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not at all surprising that you see the world upside-down and backwards. you have what's called in layman's terms " mental illness." good luck with that.
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I think it is hilarious how bothered you are by Karen taking down her posts.
Bothered? This is fodder for a stand-up routine. It doesn't bother me in the least. It sure seems to get you going though, "not karen."
I wonder how funny it was to Karen's son whose entire life - drug dealing, underaged porn, failing school, etc - was laid bare for the general public by his mother in her twisted drive for approval and sympathy?
Oh yeah, we know that already. That's why Karen pulled her posts down from ST. Too bad she was too gutless to use a login over here so she could do the same. Now from the present into the forseeable future, Karen's junkie, flunkie kid will have to deal with questions about why his mom told all their family secrets to strangers on the internet.
Does her son call that a "win" I wonder? Probably not, huh?
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I wonder why you want to attack people's kids. I thought you were just after the parents. What bothers you so much about the fact that many of our kids are doing extremely well. I thought you would be supporting kids who moved on despite the horrific things we did to them by sending them to a program. Do you think it makes you look good to attack kids who are doing well in college or high school? Do you think posting false information about them supports your cause? I communicated with Karen last spring to get information for a neighbor. I can assure you that you have absolutely no idea what her son is all about and what his issues even were. You ARE aware, though, that he was only at a TBS for 9 months. You have no idea what MY kid or my family is about.
You are stuck at the maturity level of a 10 year old. I am so sorry that your parents could not get you the help you needed. I am sorry you aren't able to pursue a meaningful education or career. I am sorry you don't feel loved.
You are wasting your breath attacking any of our kids. It should be clear even to your feeble little brain that they are not here reading what you have to say. Why would they waste the time?
Yes, what you say is amusing for awhile, then we get sick of it and go away. In some respects I think we wait for a moment of clarity from you, but it never comes. It is so hard to fathom that anyone could be so immature and stupid. It's like watching a car wreck. It's hard to turn away, but, alas, one must move on to more joyful things.
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I wonder why you want to attack people's kids. I thought you were just after the parents. What bothers you so much about the fact that many of our kids are doing extremely well. I thought you would be supporting kids who moved on despite the horrific things we did to them by sending them to a program. Do you think it makes you look good to attack kids who are doing well in college or high school? Do you think posting false information about them supports your cause? I communicated with Karen last spring to get information for a neighbor. I can assure you that you have absolutely no idea what her son is all about and what his issues even were. You ARE aware, though, that he was only at a TBS for 9 months. You have no idea what MY kid or my family is about.
You are stuck at the maturity level of a 10 year old. I am so sorry that your parents could not get you the help you needed. I am sorry you aren't able to pursue a meaningful education or career. I am sorry you don't feel loved.
You are wasting your breath attacking any of our kids. It should be clear even to your feeble little brain that they are not here reading what you have to say. Why would they waste the time?
Yes, what you say is amusing for awhile, then we get sick of it and go away. In some respects I think we wait for a moment of clarity from you, but it never comes. It is so hard to fathom that anyone could be so immature and stupid. It's like watching a car wreck. It's hard to turn away, but, alas, one must move on to more joyful things.
Funny how you say it's not right to attack children, but here you are, day after day, trying to further abuse abused kids. Funny how your own behavior is exempt from your own rules. Are you a Republican house member by chance?
Thanks, though, for illustrating that your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Many of these kids came from excellent private schools where the faculty was strong and the educational opportunities were top-notch. The kids, by their own admission (later) were throwing away promising futures. They were stealing cars- maybe the family's car-but taking cars without permission and without licenses in some cases. They were using and/or selling alcohol and drugs. They were violent towards family members. Gee-why would we lose faith in our kids?
Fast forward to post-program. Kid is back in a top high school and will head to a top college. Kid has matured. Kid treats family members with the expected amount of respect an 18 or 19 year old would show a parent (not a whole lot, but some). Kid is responsible about cars and activities. Kid has learned how to have healthier relationshps with friends and members of the opposite sex. Kid has better things to do than hang around on a website like this complaining about the program that kid knows saved his life.
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You ARE aware, though, that he was only at a TBS for 9 months.
yeah, i know. he flunked out of "special school" too.
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Kid did not 'flunk' he had a 'blip'. Get it right.
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yeah, can't blame the kid for being a screw-up though. think about it. here you are, a teenaged boy, and you find out that your dad is a closeted homosexual and your mom is a beard. your sister seeks religion to try to make sense of her twisted, phony, immoral parents.
how was this kid supposed to get by without having serious issues?
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yeah, can't blame the kid for being a screw-up though. think about it. here you are, a teenaged boy, and you find out that your dad is a closeted homosexual and your mom is a beard. your sister seeks religion to try to make sense of her twisted, phony, immoral parents.
how was this kid supposed to get by without having serious issues?
good question! hopefully both kids will get over being raised in a loveless and inattentive household.
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yeah, can't blame the kid for being a screw-up though. think about it. here you are, a teenaged boy, and you find out that your dad is a closeted homosexual and your mom is a beard. your sister seeks religion to try to make sense of her twisted, phony, immoral parents.
how was this kid supposed to get by without having serious issues?
Man, this is dead-on.
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Too bad none of it is true. Getting close to slander there, folks.
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Ah, there's the Karen-Sue we all know! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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it doesn't take a lawyer to make that call. You are calling someone gay who isn't. You are calling someone a beard who isn't. You are calling someone a druggie who isn't. One has to wonder where you brain trusts come up with this stuff. Right- you are the one who decided the Texan husband is really in California.
Yes, I happen to have some time to waste this week so I'll comment on the attacks on Karen.
Interesting how when you are cornered you turn it into a Karen-attack, even when there was absolutely nothing even close to an issue concerning Karen in the original discussions. You are like a trained doggie. Sit, Spot.
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How many times are you going to throw that word around? You threaten and 'warn' us all the time. Ain't nothing ever happened. Hell, I've been waiting for it
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it doesn't take a lawyer to make that call. You are calling someone gay who isn't. You are calling someone a beard who isn't. You are calling someone a druggie who isn't. One has to wonder where you brain trusts come up with this stuff. Right- you are the one who decided the Texan husband is really in California.
Yes, I happen to have some time to waste this week so I'll comment on the attacks on Karen.
Interesting how when you are cornered you turn it into a Karen-attack, even when there was absolutely nothing even close to an issue concerning Karen in the original discussions. You are like a trained doggie. Sit, Spot.
You= moth
Fornits= the only light in your sad life
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I have never threatened and warned anyone on this site. I am merely pointing out to you that you are presenting totally false information as if it were true. If it were ever to hurt someone professionally or financially, it could be actionable. However, since no one of any significance would ever believe anything on this site, there is actually little chance of any harm. Your little world is getting smaller all the time.
Which leads me to wonder- were you ever actually abuse at a teen program? Are you suffering the effects? Or are you merely a pathetic, bored loser who found a site where it is alright to insult people and take out your anger on your perception of "The Man".
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I want you to sue me, then we can play this game in real life. I will bring a digital camera. :wink:
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Too bad none of it is true. Getting close to slander there, folks.
slander? how can you slander someone by using a first name only? you're a fucking retard. sue that, bitch.
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I have never threatened and warned anyone on this site. I am merely pointing out to you that you are presenting totally false information as if it were true. If it were ever to hurt someone professionally or financially, it could be actionable. However, since no one of any significance would ever believe anything on this site, there is actually little chance of any harm. Your little world is getting smaller all the time.
Which leads me to wonder- were you ever actually abuse at a teen program? Are you suffering the effects? Or are you merely a pathetic, bored loser who found a site where it is alright to insult people and take out your anger on your perception of "The Man".
What an idiot.
These are the facts:
Husband is gay
Karen's a beard
Kid is a druggie and a school flunkie
Now what?
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I'd be angry if I was her too.
But you're not karen, right? You are just some sycophantic loser trying to get in good with known loser karen. :P
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Those are not facts. Those are the things you have made up.
Not first name only- Karen's full biography has been posted all over this site.
I'm not the one harmed, and obviously she could care less, but if I were you I would be careful. You are really amusing ME, though.
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Wait- one of you little retards claimed to be able to tell who everyone was by their IP address. There were constant claims of Karen posting, which never seemed to have much basis. I am not exactly the most technical person in the world, and I doubt that you can really do that, but if you can, surely you can identify Karen's recent posts for us. You were so proud of that little trick. What happened? Did Ginger take away your toys?
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I am not exactly the most technical person in the world
Not the brightest either. Run along and find something else to waste your life on. Oh, wait. That's right, your kids get full-time neglect. Now it makes sense. Wasting your time here is just part of the Master Plan of thoroughly neglecting your kids. Carry on then.
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I only have one kid and she's long out of the house. I think she is probably quite ready for some neglect. You , on the other hand, are acting out because YOU were neglected. My sympathies.
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I only have one kid and she's long out of the house. I think she is probably quite ready for some neglect. You , on the other hand, are acting out because YOU were neglected. My sympathies.
Mom? Is that you? You finally can admit you neglected me horribly? Thank you! Now we can redefine our relationship. I hate you more than ever and I will never come home!
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I am not exactly the most technical person in the world
Not the brightest either. Run along and find something else to waste your life on. Oh, wait. That's right, your kids get full-time neglect. Now it makes sense. Wasting your time here is just part of the Master Plan of thoroughly neglecting your kids. Carry on then.
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oh shit! lmao
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Wait- one of you little retards claimed to be able to tell who everyone was by their IP address. There were constant claims of Karen posting, which never seemed to have much basis. I am not exactly the most technical person in the world, and I doubt that you can really do that, but if you can, surely you can identify Karen's recent posts for us. You were so proud of that little trick. What happened? Did Ginger take away your toys?
Did kid leaving home take away your easy target to belittle, and feel better about yourself? Fornits fills that gap nicely for you, right?
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Wait- one of you little retards claimed to be able to tell who everyone was by their IP address. There were constant claims of Karen posting, which never seemed to have much basis. I am not exactly the most technical person in the world, and I doubt that you can really do that, but if you can, surely you can identify Karen's recent posts for us. You were so proud of that little trick. What happened? Did Ginger take away your toys?
Did kid leaving home take away your easy target to belittle, and feel better about yourself? Fornits fills that gap nicely for you, right?
yeah, you got it right. this bitch is a pure sadist looking for what she perceives as easy prey. kid (resident whipping child) is gone, so now it's time to abuse other people's kids. yeah, you hit it on the head.
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This is all nonsense, I hope everyone realizes this.
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yeah, you got it right. this bitch is a pure sadist looking for what she perceives as easy prey. kid (resident whipping child) is gone, so now it's time to abuse other people's kids. yeah, you hit it on the head.
Sad, but true. :cry: