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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 21, 2003, 07:17:00 PM

Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2003, 07:17:00 PM
Two well known and high profile in the state are working with ISAC for all survivors who feel they have a case either against a program or the state.
All information must be sent to ISAC's paralegal first for review and then will be forwarded to the appoproiate lawyer to determine case .
 You may email the detail of your complaint or case to
isac@tampabay.rr.com (http://mailto:isac@tampabay.rr.com)
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2003, 07:57:00 AM
"...a case either against a program or the state."

which state?
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Ms.P on February 22, 2003, 08:52:00 AM
If this is in FL, are they taking on clients of Growing Together, Inc. in Lake Worth?

Ms.P
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2003, 01:11:00 PM
This is for all clients against ANY abusive program in the State of Florida. If you feel you have a case or complaint against the State of Florida , DCF, ANY abusive program send in the details of your case to isac@tampabay.rr.com
Please make sure you fill out a synopsis of what happened with as many details as possible , if you filed a police report please obtain a copy of it at the police department where it was filed.
Once you send it to ISAC it will be reviewed and based on volume of people sending in ISAC will get back to you within ten days, usually three by email so remember to include your contact information and any contact information of those involved. ISAC WILL NOT contact those individuals that you list as involved but if you do have a case the attorney will need this information.

If you are not in the State of Florida you may send in your case information anyway as ISAC is working to secure attorneys in all states where programs exsisted and perhaps the Florida lawyer will have a referal to an attorney in another state.

ALL information sent to ISAC for a case review will be held under attorney client privlege as only the paralegal will be the one reviewing it then it will be sent to the attorney.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2003, 09:03:00 PM
Marti,

I thank you for your hard work on this. Could you tell us what the letters ISAC stand for? Also, could you give us the names of the lawyers involved?

Thanks,
Survivor of Straight-Springfield
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2003, 03:03:00 AM
ISAC stands for international survivors action committee
Unfortunatly, we can not or should I say that it would not be wise to reveal their names on this board as we do not want them pressured by shall we say "outside sources" not to work with the survivors.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2003, 03:38:00 AM
anon post with ISAC updates are posted by a variety of volunteers from ISAC
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2003, 01:36:00 PM
So the lawyers agree with this feeling that they should not be open about working on this case?
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Hamiltonf on February 23, 2003, 08:28:00 PM
In putting together any case in these types of circumstances, I would not want it widely published as to what I am doing until I have gathered sufficient information and evidence to launch the suit.  At that point I would become the attorney of record.  It seems to me that the paralegal will be serving a useful purpose in filtering out frivolous or bogus claims.  Excellent going, ISAC!
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2003, 05:59:00 PM
In the case of Straight survivors, what would you consider "frivolous or bogus" cases? Doesn't anyone who was put in Straight have a case against them?
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2003, 08:08:00 PM
If you think you have a case, please send it to ISAC. The job of the paralegal is to determine if any statute of limitations affects the possible case and if there is enough evidence to proceed. We'd prefer not to discuss it too much on this public forum, but rest assured, we're very serious.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2003, 12:31:00 AM
Thank you.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
::rocker::
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: ` on May 10, 2005, 09:39:00 PM
Was this the Morgan Collins Gilbert thing that did not pan out? Or what? The reason i ask is that many people who are reading this were not around when this thread originally went up...
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 10:29:00 PM
Statute of limitations is not the problem.  What will make this case fly is if the lawyers can find someone or persons responsible that has money.  Money is what will drive the lawyer to take it.  So far, this has not happened.   Good luck.  I'll keep checking this thread out.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on May 10, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
Right on brother, thanx for representing.  i will put together my case and e-mail it to you.  Best of luck.  Rock on.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: ` on May 11, 2005, 01:46:00 AM
starry-eyed pirate, i think that you should indeed put your case together. however, since this is an old thread, i would suggest verifying that those mentioned in this thread are still working on what they said they were working on in this thread. i don't think they are. but hopefully someone will post here who knows for sure, one way or the other.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 04:33:00 AM
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On 2005-05-10 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Statute of limitations is not the problem.  What will make this case fly is if the lawyers can find someone or persons responsible that has money.  Money is what will drive the lawyer to take it.  So far, this has not happened.   Good luck.  I'll keep checking this thread out. "

Mel Sembler has no money?
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 06:25:00 AM
Smelvin has money; it's just proving he is the "responsible" party.  Once that is done, we go after the state of Florida with a claims bill.  Got to have a civil case to make the claims bill move forward in Florida.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2005, 04:15:00 AM
I am not sure who posted it, however, I one dont work at ISAC anymore and left over a year ago as I needed a break. Two, I know nothing of any lawyers taking cases for those against Straight. I do know there is a survivor out there thinking of persuing a single case but that lawyer is not a personal lawyer.

I would suggest contacting Shelby at ISAC to see if they have anything going on.

I would also appreciate it if the Semblers would stop trying to figure out what I may or may not be up to. I have a life which oddly enough does not totally revolve around Straight.
Newton on the other hand you know that your bankruptcy issue is the direct result of myeself and several other suvivors. Love ya.

For all of those that said thanks for my efforts in this post . Thank you for the thoughts of encouragement but there are quite a few of us that work together as friends to try to get us through the still occuring pain and nightmares.

It is ALWAYS a team effort in protesting child abusers and the continuation protest against those programs that will ruin children.

Suvivors are a team, its never one person.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Antigen on May 13, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
This is a very old topic. Someone just bumped it, that's all.

The most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of
knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness.

--Thomas Jefferson

Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
::rocker::
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 02:21:00 AM
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On 2003-02-21 16:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Two well known and high profile in the state are working with ISAC for all survivors who feel they have a case either against a program or the state.

All information must be sent to ISAC's paralegal first for review and then will be forwarded to the appoproiate lawyer to determine case .

 You may email the detail of your complaint or case to

isac@tampabay.rr.com (http://mailto:isac@tampabay.rr.com)



"


Ok,BUT,
I cant locate ANY document to prove that I was in the program!
That is what led me to find such miserable websites such as Fornits and Wes Fager's The Straights.
Also,it led me to meet such assholes like Mike Sherman,who pretend to offer "help",but only exploit program victims for their own gain.
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 07:38:00 AM
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Also,it led me to meet such assholes like Mike Sherman,who pretend to offer "help",but only exploit program victims for their own gain.

"


Hey, what was Sherman's "gain"?
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 10:38:00 AM
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On 2006-06-26 04:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Also,it led me to meet such assholes like Mike Sherman,who pretend to offer "help",but only exploit program victims for their own gain.


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Hey, what was Sherman's "gain"?"

He gained a "Mike Sherman Apologist" like YOU!
Title: ISAC Obtains two lawyers for all survivors
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
He won't answer because he can't.  Mike gained nothing.  He's just a decent guy who's become the target of some extreme paranoia and delusions.