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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Deborah on August 23, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
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What's the connection between Peachford Behavioral Health and HLA?
http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/ ... ordbhs.com (http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=alcoholism&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peachfordbhs.com)
I understand they are owned by Universal Health, the same outfit that owns Ascent, Boulder Creek Academy, Provo Canyon, King George, Northwest Academy, and others.
http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral (http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral)
Bought up all the CEDU programs when Brown Schools went bankrupt.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori ... 407&EDATE= (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-10-2005/0004164407&EDATE=)
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From what I've heard, Peachford is the psychiatric facility HLA sends kids to when an "intervention" doesn't do the trick or the kid is new and needs to have their medicine adjusted.
I'd be curious to know if anyone has a child who was sent there and whether or not you received a receipt or a statement from the visit.
Is Buccellato on the Board of Directors at Peachford?
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Also - Do parents have to give their consent for their child to be sent to Peachford?
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Peachford existed back when I was in high school so I doubt it has any business ownership affiliation with HLA. I remember some classmates going there. This would have been 1980-1983 era. Im not sure when it actually opened though.
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What's the connection between Peachford Behavioral Health and HLA?
http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/ ... ordbhs.com (http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=alcoholism&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peachfordbhs.com)
I understand they are owned by Universal Health, the same outfit that owns Ascent, Boulder Creek Academy, Provo Canyon, King George, Northwest Academy, and others.
http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral (http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral)
Bought up all the CEDU programs when Brown Schools went bankrupt.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori ... 407&EDATE= (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-10-2005/0004164407&EDATE=)
Peachford is an outside short term psychiatric ward, not directly linked to HLA. No, it didnt have anything to do with the interventions. They are two different kinds of punishment.
Interventions were used for punishments to behaviors not having to do with harming oneself (violence, drug use, extreme refusals, etc). Basically they were used to break someone down so that they knew exactly what was in store for them if they repeated this behavior.
Peachford was used much less frequently. I only knew 2 or 3 people who went there in my entire 2 yr stay. People went to Peachford when HLA was not sure if they could keep them safe at HLA. Like people who were extremely suicidal or wouldnt stop cutting (why these people were admitted in the first place always blew my mind.) Like for example:
A room mate that I had toward the end of my stay had found her mom hanging in the moms closet by a belt like 2 years ago or something. The girl was totally nuts (cutting, would choke herself with a belt to "feel closer to her mom", and all this other stuff). I got totally freaked and told my counselor, and they put her on Restrictions and on Clean Air (sleeping in the hallway in a sleeping bag so night staff can watch you.) Finally staff walked in on her trying to hang herself and she was sent to Peachford. Then she did something else crazy there, and I think was eventually sent to a longer term psych ward.
So it was people like that who went to Peachford (also extreme anorexia or bulimia I'm pretty sure). Its like a short term crisis center.
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i was sent to peachford my first day at HLA. the reason i was sent was because i refused to comply with their "strip search." im not sure if they asked or told my parents if i was going, but i can tell everyone one thing, i was treated ten times better at peachford then i was at HLA. thats for sure.
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i was sent to peachford my first day at HLA. the reason i was sent was because i refused to comply with their "strip search." im not sure if they asked or told my parents if i was going, but i can tell everyone one thing, i was treated ten times better at peachford then i was at HLA. thats for sure.
That sounds unbelievable. If I weren't a staff there at the time and saw it happen with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe. But yes, this is true.
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What's the connection between Peachford Behavioral Health and HLA?
http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/ ... ordbhs.com (http://alcoholism.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=alcoholism&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peachfordbhs.com)
I understand they are owned by Universal Health, the same outfit that owns Ascent, Boulder Creek Academy, Provo Canyon, King George, Northwest Academy, and others.
http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral (http://www.uhsinc.com/hospitals.php?type=behavioral)
Bought up all the CEDU programs when Brown Schools went bankrupt.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori ... 407&EDATE= (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-10-2005/0004164407&EDATE=)
Peachford is an outside short term psychiatric ward, not directly linked to HLA. No, it didnt have anything to do with the interventions. They are two different kinds of punishment.
Interventions were used for punishments to behaviors not having to do with harming oneself (violence, drug use, extreme refusals, etc). Basically they were used to break someone down so that they knew exactly what was in store for them if they repeated this behavior.
Peachford was used much less frequently. I only knew 2 or 3 people who went there in my entire 2 yr stay. People went to Peachford when HLA was not sure if they could keep them safe at HLA. Like people who were extremely suicidal or wouldnt stop cutting (why these people were admitted in the first place always blew my mind.) Like for example:
A room mate that I had toward the end of my stay had found her mom hanging in the moms closet by a belt like 2 years ago or something. The girl was totally nuts (cutting, would choke herself with a belt to "feel closer to her mom", and all this other stuff). I got totally freaked and told my counselor, and they put her on Restrictions and on Clean Air (sleeping in the hallway in a sleeping bag so night staff can watch you.) Finally staff walked in on her trying to hang herself and she was sent to Peachford. Then she did something else crazy there, and I think was eventually sent to a longer term psych ward.
So it was people like that who went to Peachford (also extreme anorexia or bulimia I'm pretty sure). Its like a short term crisis center.
The girl was totally nuts (cutting, would choke herself with a belt to "feel closer to her mom", and all this other stuff). I got totally freaked and told my counselor, and they put her on Restrictions and on Clean Air (sleeping in the hallway in a sleeping bag so night staff can watch you.) Finally staff walked in on her trying to hang herself and she was sent to Peachford. Then she did something else crazy there, and I think was eventually sent to a longer term psych ward.
How in good conscience could HLA take on a child who had such severe issues? Did HLA really think their unlicensed staff could cure this girl or provide her with the professional therapy she needed? I can only imagine how terrifying this experience must have been for the girls who lived in the same dorm with this girl. I guess it's anything for a dollar.
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i was sent to peachford my first day at HLA. the reason i was sent was because i refused to comply with their "strip search." im not sure if they asked or told my parents if i was going, but i can tell everyone one thing, i was treated ten times better at peachford then i was at HLA. thats for sure.
Strip searching was never authorized by parents nor was it stated to parents, nor is it in the Parent Handbook. Please call Kit Wallace at CPS.
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i was sent to peachford my first day at HLA. the reason i was sent was because i refused to comply with their "strip search." im not sure if they asked or told my parents if i was going, but i can tell everyone one thing, i was treated ten times better at peachford then i was at HLA. thats for sure.
Strip searching was never authorized by parents nor was it stated to parents, nor is it in the Parent Handbook. Please call Kit Wallace at CPS.
Lol we were strip searched every single time we came back on campus from a break. They lined us all up in the gym when we got back and took us one by one in the back and we got naked. Girls had to squat and cough, had to lift up their boobs to they could see that there wasnt anything taped underneath... It sucked.
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i was sent to peachford my first day at HLA. the reason i was sent was because i refused to comply with their "strip search." im not sure if they asked or told my parents if i was going, but i can tell everyone one thing, i was treated ten times better at peachford then i was at HLA. thats for sure.
Strip searching was never authorized by parents nor was it stated to parents, nor is it in the Parent Handbook. Please call Kit Wallace at CPS.
Lol we were strip searched every single time we came back on campus from a break. They lined us all up in the gym when we got back and took us one by one in the back and we got naked. Girls had to squat and cough, had to lift up their boobs to they could see that there wasnt anything taped underneath... It sucked.
Same thing with the guys, replace boobs with privates...
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Also - Do parents have to give their consent for their child to be sent to Peachford?
No... my child was admitted to Peachford because he/she would not sign a "Contract for Safety" or something like that stated he/she would not hurt himself/herself. The day after he/she was admitted at Peachford, we received a phone call from the HLA Psychiatrist who explained to us why he/she was admitted there.
Ironically, the Psychiatrist at Peachford told us the story about the girl at HLA who tried to hang herself. He also suggested that we should not return our child to HLA as they were not qualified to deal with our child's issues. He/she never did return to HLA.
At the same time, several employees at Peachford did not hesitate to suggest the names of Educational Consultants to help with placement at another program. Our child is now at an Aspen Group facility out west. My spouse and I are not very optimistic that the new facility will do much better, despite the sales job we received from the Ed. Cons.
ItsOptional
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Also - Do parents have to give their consent for their child to be sent to Peachford?
No... my child was admitted to Peachford because he/she would not sign a "Contract for Safety" or something like that stated he/she would not hurt himself/herself. The day after he/she was admitted at Peachford, we received a phone call from the HLA Psychiatrist who explained to us why he/she was admitted there.
Ironically, the Psychiatrist at Peachford told us the story about the girl at HLA who tried to hang herself. He also suggested that we should not return our child to HLA as they were not qualified to deal with our child's issues. He/she never did return to HLA.
At the same time, several employees at Peachford did not hesitate to suggest the names of Educational Consultants to help with placement at another program. Our child is now at an Aspen Group facility out west. My spouse and I are not very optimistic that the new facility will do much better, despite the sales job we received from the Ed. Cons.
ItsOptional
Please call Kit Wallace at Child Protective Services with your child's story: 706.864.1839 They need this information for their investigation.
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Our child is now at an Aspen Group facility out west.
You fucking moron. Haven't you learned anything?
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Our child is now at an Aspen Group facility out west.
You fucking moron. Haven't you learned anything?
MGDP - Lighten up on the parent. It sounds like they're in a tough situation trying to protect their child from self-destructing. Be a little more constructive and let people know what you've heard about that facility. There are kids out there that really do need help. Unfortunately too many places, such as HLA, take advantage of a desparate situation. (I pulled my kid out of HLA, but I also needed to make sure I was doing the right thing.)
Seriously, some of the stuff that is purported to take place at HLA seemed impossible and surreal. But thanks to the kindness of people on this forum, I was able to make an educated decision based on facts to get my kid out of that hell hole. I am eternally grateful to those people.
People that are new to Fornits need some compassion, not to be called names and ridiculed. I'm lucky I have a thick skin or else I would have not gotten back on this site. Some people are more sensitive and you may completely turn them away from Fornits by jumping down their throats - especially when it seems like a call for help.
Just a thought....
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(Note: The amount of hate in this post is an infinitesmal fraction of the hatred ItsOptional's kid assuredly feels for his parents right about now, and a similarly small portion of the abuse being heaped upon him at this very moment in some Aspen shitpit.)
Yeah, I mean it's not like there's an entire forum devoted to that very topic here.. oh wait. Seriously, "ItsOptional" (not so optional for your fucking kid, is it?), have you not considered the simple act of scrolling down? Is that too hard for you?
"Don't be so mean.."? Fuck that. What the hell do you think those clowns are going to do to its kid? I honestly don't give a fuck what it purports to think. Yeah, yeah, I know the drill: be nice to it, and maybe it'll stick around long enough to get some semblance of a clue. I could do that but.. naaaaah.
Wanna know why? Because this person (and I use the term loosely), not having learned its lesson the first time around, decides to send its kid to another Godforsaken shitpit without listening to the crap spewed out of the mouth of another cockblower ed con. That doesn't deserve respect. That deserves derision at best. I'm not going to treat it nice. That only means that it's going to try some other shit when the kid finally gets home. What it needs is an attitude adjustment, and since we don't do long-term abuse here at Fornits, I have to resort to a forum clue-by-four.
You're not very optimistic and you fucking leave him there? I'm going to shine a light in your left ear and make shadowpuppets near your right.
"But he needs..", yeah, that's bullshit, don't even waste your time (or, more importantly, mine). Listen, "ItsOptional", fucking send him to me. I could use a couple thousand bucks a month (and, frankly, so could your kid). We'll live it up, laugh at your expense, and I'll use the money we didn't spend on hookers and expensive toys to send him to a decent college. No, this isn't a joke. No, I won't treat your kid anywhere near as nasty as I treat you.
Or you could keep killing his youth and his soul by shipping him between hellholes for a while.
Yeah, that's what I thought you'd do.
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At the same time, several employees at Peachford did not hesitate to suggest the names of Educational Consultants to help with placement at another program. Our child is now at an Aspen Group facility out west. My spouse and I are not very optimistic that the new facility will do much better, despite the sales job we received from the Ed. Cons.
ItsOptional
Please check out ISAC's web page on facilities that are on there Watch List:
http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp)
BTW - who was your Ed Con? Jean Hague?
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Sign a "contract for safety"? What kind of nonsense is that? Thats programesque bullshit, not a part of any actual therapy or medical procedure.
The one thing Im wondering is why youre throwing your child around from one BM program to another, forcing your child to life a joyless existance with no friends, no family, no love, nothing but the programs bullshit, which is only designed to make them do one thing - break him down until he believes in the program, not provide any therapy, instead of letting your kid have what he deserves:
A normal life with friends, family, joy, therapy if necessary and consented to, and only as restrictive an environment as possible to mantain his safety, not to break him down faster or becuase some quack believes that hardship is good for anyone.
But well, I guess you're sold on programs, or you're more comfortable mailing a check than facing your child, so Im just wasting my time getting worked up over you.
What kills me is you probably know thats the case, but dont care.... why? Do you HONESTLY think otherwise?
Do you really think that thousands of people just got up some day and figure'd we'd get all worked up about some "hard but necessary change for the better" (in their terms :roll: ) thats really in the childs best interest thats not abusive that nobody here went through?
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BTW - who was your Ed Con? Jean Hague?
No.
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No... my child was admitted to Peachford because he/she would not sign a "Contract for Safety" or something like that stated he/she would not hurt himself/herself. The day after he/she was admitted at Peachford, we received a phone call from the HLA Psychiatrist who explained to us why he/she was admitted there. BTW - who was your Ed Con? Jean Hague?
ItsOptional
I just talked to my wife. She said that HLA did call to ask our permissioin to admit our child to Peachford.
ItsOptional
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BTW - who was your Ed Con? Jean Hague?
No.
How long was your child at HLA?
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NATSAP and IECA Committees have been working independently on their respective ethical principles. The two groups also met together this past May to compare notes and discuss areas of overlapping concern, and are planning a follow-up joint meeting in November to continue the process.
Some of the issues involving the relationship between programs and referring professionals that warrant reiterating or clarifying are: dual relationships; marketing practices; compensation (including travel expenses, gifts, entertainment, etc.); and quid pro quo arrangements.
2005 4th quarter newletter
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NATSAP and IECA Committees have been working independently of ethical principles.
Fixed.