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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 27, 2006, 08:40:04 AM

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2006, 08:40:04 AM

Does anyone know anything about this organization called ISAC?

http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.html (http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.html)

Hidden Lake Academy is now listed on their web site under ISAC's Watch List.

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Troll Control on July 27, 2006, 01:13:45 PM

This is great news.  Finally HLA is being exposed for what it is: an abusive BM facility that damages children in an unsafe, unhelpful environment.

Outstanding.

Title: National Association of Theraputic Schools and Programs
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2006, 01:29:05 PM

Hidden Lake Academy is a member of this organization. NATSAP claims they have received no complaints against HLA.

http://www.natsap.org/ (http://www.natsap.org/)

I'm just passing along what they told me.

Title: Re: National Association of Theraputic Schools and Programs
Post by: Troll Control on July 27, 2006, 01:32:01 PM

Quote from: ""Guest 2""

Hidden Lake Academy is a member of this organization. NATSAP claims they have received no complaints against HLA.

http://www.natsap.org/ (http://www.natsap.org/)

I'm just passing along what they told me.

NATSAP was created by Len Buccellato, owner of HLA.  They have recieved dozens upon dozens of complaints about HLA, as I personally know the people who have complained.  However, since NATSAP is an industry shill, more specifically an HLA shill, they of course filed those complaints in the "circular file."

NATSAP has zero credibility, as does Len Bucellato and HLA in general.

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2006, 01:33:03 PM

Yeah, well you're not going to get anything objective out of NATSAP.  It's made up of "industry people" and exists only to dole out meaningless "memberships in good standing" kind of crap.  Look into who runs NATSAP before taking anything they say seriously.

Title: Isaccorp
Post by: juniper2 on July 27, 2006, 01:35:13 PM

Shelby...It is about time....

Title: Re: Isaccorp
Post by: Troll Control on July 27, 2006, 01:41:15 PM

Quote from: ""juniper2""

Shelby...It is about time....

...and good job.  Thanks for doing your research and properly listing this facility.

Title: Wikipedia
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2006, 01:52:09 PM

This is rather interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Lake_Academy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Lake_Academy)

Title: ISACCORP
Post by: juniper2 on July 27, 2006, 02:20:32 PM

Does anyone have an info as to why ISACCORP finally 'moved' on HLA?
I had spoken to Shelby last year....at that time they did not have anything..

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Deborah on July 31, 2006, 01:07:21 AM

Re: Len funding the creation of NATSAP
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... tsap#88171 (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?p=88171&highlight=natsap#88171)
Against Bill 705
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... tsap#53026 (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?p=53026&highlight=natsap#53026)

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2006, 07:01:00 AM

Hmm.

He founded NATSAP, he's losing what mind he had, and he's running out of cash?

Could the other NATSAP members be clandestinely bleeding his cash supply dry? Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they started leeching off each other, given the chance...

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Deborah on August 20, 2006, 12:32:42 AM

In addition to Wikipedia, there's an entry on Answers.com
http://www.answers.com/topic/hidden-lake-academy (http://www.answers.com/topic/hidden-lake-academy)

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Deborah on August 20, 2006, 12:53:01 AM

There are also some HLAers posting on Cafety's MySpace page:
http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety)

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2006, 10:41:36 AM

wow that myspace site has 833 members.

SHH

Title: Re: National Association of Theraputic Schools and Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2006, 12:38:03 PM

Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""

Quote from: ""Guest 2""

Hidden Lake Academy is a member of this organization. NATSAP claims they have received no complaints against HLA.

http://www.natsap.org/ (http://www.natsap.org/)

I'm just passing along what they told me.

NATSAP was created by Len Buccellato, owner of HLA.  They have recieved dozens upon dozens of complaints about HLA, as I personally know the people who have complained.  However, since NATSAP is an industry shill, more specifically an HLA shill, they of course filed those complaints in the "circular file."

NATSAP has zero credibility, as does Len Bucellato and HLA in general.

So could NATSAP be hedl liable in the event of a lawsuit?

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Troll Control on September 07, 2006, 01:18:30 PM

"So could NATSAP be hedl liable in the event of a lawsuit?"


I would name them as a defendant and see what happens.  

In the case of Ivy Ridge the accrediting agency (NAAS) was named in a $100 million lawsuit for failing to properly oversee Ivy Ridge.

Title: International Survivors Action Committee
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2006, 05:51:01 PM

Quote from: ""Guest""

"So could NATSAP be held liable in the event of a lawsuit?"


I would name them as a defendant and see what happens.  

In the case of Ivy Ridge the accrediting agency (NAAS) was named in a $100 million lawsuit for failing to properly oversee Ivy Ridge.

FYI - Educational Consultants/Agencies were named in that lawsuit as well.

Go to ISAC's web site to read the lawsuit:
http://www.isaccorp.org/ivyridge/ivyridgelawsuit.pdf (http://www.isaccorp.org/ivyridge/ivyridgelawsuit.pdf)

Title: Ridge Creek on ISAC?
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2006, 10:40:09 PM

I'm surprised Ridge Creek hasn't shown up on ISAC's list yet.....  I bet if people sent in information about "interventions" Ridge would be on ISAC's list.

www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org)