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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 08, 2006, 04:22:00 PM

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Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
Having suddenly realized at this late age that it's a dog eat dog world out there, and having been trained by domination and terrorization and confusion, all that brainwashing and thought reform stuff, to have an abnormal way with honesty and strictness to honesty and so on, I am checking out the lying thing. I mean, I'm confused and afraid. I don't understand people and I don't trust them, and I often lie. I often regret not lying. I often regret saying anything, and feel that I should have lied. I often live in a substate of anxiety related to who knows where I live and what people know and so on. Goes on and on. Doesn't get better. Doesn't heal with time. Increases with stress. Need something.
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Post by: teachback on July 08, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
Yeah... There's a time and a place for everything; for both lies and trust, I mean...

For instance, just because someone asks you for your social security number doesn't always mean that you have to or should give it to them....

Need something? How about a new identity???  :lol:
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Post by: Nonconformistlaw on July 09, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
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On 2006-07-08 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Having suddenly realized at this late age that it's a dog eat dog world out there, and having been trained by domination and terrorization and confusion, all that brainwashing and thought reform stuff, to have an abnormal way with honesty and strictness to honesty and so on, I am checking out the lying thing. I mean, I'm confused and afraid. I don't understand people and I don't trust them, and I often lie. I often regret not lying. I often regret saying anything, and feel that I should have lied. I often live in a substate of anxiety related to who knows where I live and what people know and so on. Goes on and on. Doesn't get better. Doesn't heal with time. Increases with stress. Need something."

Yup I know what you mean....being brainwashed to believe that I must be 100% honest about every damn thought I have, must reveal all details, etc. has led to a lifelong battle that always rages in my head. Must tell absolutely everything, cant leave a detail out or else that means I am lying.....wait, 'normal' people dont want to hear every last detail...now what? This has given my a hell of a lot of stress over the years and although it hasn't led me to a habit of lying, in frustration I have over the years continuously tortured myself about being 100% honest....its a never ending battle. Even though I dont agree with lying, I can see how this constant battle might cause someone to lie...I mean who the hell wants to torture themselves all the freakin time?

I have never understood why 'normal' people dont have this problem and have accused many people of lying over the years because they failed to reveal every detail to me....pretty screwed up huh?

Your right it doesnt seem to get any better....for me anyway....I wish I had an answer to how to completely deprogram....I dont recommend lying as a solution but then again I dont know what the hell to tell ya.
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Post by: teachback on July 09, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
There are degrees of conscientiousness ranging from a full and detailed (and often unnecessary) disclosure to a baldfaced and contemptible lie. How much you tell or don't tell should depend on what you think the person you're dealing with has a right to know or not know. Do unto others...
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Post by: starry-eyed pirate on July 09, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
Yeah...I understand, it takes a long time to re-adjust...I'm still shakin' it off.  Sometimes lying is appropriate, sometimes it is the compassionate thing to do.  I think anyone who tells you that you should ALWAYS be honest aint to be trusted themselves.

Life is tricky, ever'body tricky.

Peace to you.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2006, 12:13:00 PM
Were you all in a cult or something?
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Post by: starry-eyed pirate on July 11, 2006, 01:28:00 AM
Well yea-ah. Duh !!  I think that's pretty obvious... :roll:  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2006, 05:07:00 AM
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On 2006-07-08 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Having suddenly realized at this late age that it's a dog eat dog world out there, and having been trained by domination and terrorization and confusion, all that brainwashing and thought reform stuff, to have an abnormal way with honesty and strictness to honesty and so on, I am checking out the lying thing. I mean, I'm confused and afraid. I don't understand people and I don't trust them, and I often lie. I often regret not lying. I often regret saying anything, and feel that I should have lied. I often live in a substate of anxiety related to who knows where I live and what people know and so on. Goes on and on. Doesn't get better. Doesn't heal with time. Increases with stress. Need something."


Smoke copious amounts of pot.  Seriously.  I know exactly what you mean and smoking daily helped me immensely. :smokin:  :smokin:  :smokin:  :smokin:
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Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2006, 09:11:28 PM
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On 2006-07-08 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Having suddenly realized at this late age that it's a dog eat dog world out there, and having been trained by domination and terrorization and confusion, all that brainwashing and thought reform stuff, to have an abnormal way with honesty and strictness to honesty and so on, I am checking out the lying thing. I mean, I'm confused and afraid. I don't understand people and I don't trust them, and I often lie. I often regret not lying. I often regret saying anything, and feel that I should have lied. I often live in a substate of anxiety related to who knows where I live and what people know and so on. Goes on and on. Doesn't get better. Doesn't heal with time. Increases with stress. Need something."




Smoke copious amounts of pot.  Seriously.  I know exactly what you mean and smoking daily helped me immensely. :smokin:  :smokin:  :smokin:  :smokin:


Come smoke with me.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2006, 10:55:26 AM
You need to get humble.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2006, 09:24:35 PM
la-de-da-de. fuck off stupid girl.
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Post by: Ganja on July 12, 2006, 09:30:31 PM
Who are you talking to?
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Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2006, 04:32:28 PM
C'mon...bump.