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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 23, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
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My son was caught with cocaine in his high school. The school officer was confiscating his cellphone and a baggie of cocaine came out. Have to go to meet with administration on Monday. I am thinking about placing him away from home in a behav mod program. I am loking for one not too far from wher we live. We live in Pasadena, Florida. Any good behav mod programs not too far from there?
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On 2006-06-23 13:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My son was caught with cocaine in his high school. The school officer was confiscating his cellphone and a baggie of cocaine came out. Have to go to meet with administration on Monday. I am thinking about placing him away from home in a behav mod program. I am loking for one not too far from wher we live. We live in Pasadena, Florida. Any good behav mod programs not too far from there?"
Unlike most of the posters here, I believe there are many good "programs". BUT! What you are doing is both overreacting and considering the wrong course of action.
For one, all you've identified is that he was caught with cocaine. You've not said he was a user. You've not said his behavior was otherwise an issue - save the poor judgment of having the cocaine at a school where they confiscate things routinely, so he also had poor judgment in having the cell phone.
Further, "behavior mod" is not the kind of program that of itself is often effective in doing anything other than instilling resentment and teaching the "student" to be more careful, and maybe drive them away from their family.
So, apart from telling him to be more careful, and perhaps requiring him to attend a course on the dangers of drug use/abuse, you've identified nothing to suggest doing anything beyond those two things.
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On 2006-06-23 13:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My son was caught with cocaine in his high school. The school officer was confiscating his cellphone and a baggie of cocaine came out. Have to go to meet with administration on Monday. I am thinking about placing him away from home in a behav mod program. I am loking for one not too far from wher we live. We live in Pasadena, Florida. Any good behav mod programs not too far from there?"
Just beat the hell out of him and then when he has a total breakdown from the fear and pain, say you love him and you just want him to do whatever you want him to do.
Same effect, you'll just take a lot less time and save a 6 figure loan.
And no, there are no good programs that can be named, just generalized nonsense to try to globally defend them from any and all criticism, and focus deflection if you bring up specifics.
:roll: Id love to see him name one good program.
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A program will just drive him harder into drugs when he gets out. If he really has a problem with coke, try a week in inpatient and see how that goes.
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I just want to know how he hid the cocaine in his cellphone. ::troll::
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There are a few really good programs, but they should only be considered as a last resort. I would take some of the advice you get here at fornits first and only if those steps failed would I consider a program. I will be curious to see how he does, Good Luck.
Hope that helps
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On 2006-06-23 17:05:00, TheWho wrote:
"There are a few really good programs, but they should only be considered as a last resort. I would take some of the advice you get here at fornits first and only if those steps failed would I consider a program. I will be curious to see how he does, Good Luck.
Hope that helps"
My God man, if you KNOW of the good programs, NAME THEM for goodness sakes. Can you imagine being a desperate parent and someone giving you this 'advice'? What kind of broad stroke bullshit is this, it means nothing, helps this mother in no way, you mine as well even not have posted it.
Hope that helps
Of course it doesn't, you know that! :roll:
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On 2006-06-23 17:05:00, TheWho wrote:
"There are a few"
That would suggest that the large majority of programs are BAD. So please, tell us in your opinion what are the FEW good ones since there are so many BAD out there?
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On 2006-06-23 17:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-23 17:05:00, TheWho wrote:
"There are a few"
That would suggest that the large majority of programs are BAD. So please, tell us in your opinion what are the FEW good ones since there are so many BAD out there?"
Ha,Ha, You caught on to DJ's Logic too, thats funny. I think I said a few Really good ones, but it doesnt matter, I like the way you phrased it better.
Anyway, I think they have a ways to go before we start suggesting programs for them. The programs today are getting more and more specialized and the root cause has not been identified or even if there is a problem to begin with. If the child has an addiction issue you would want to take one path, if addiction is not an issue then another path may be appropriate.
The first thing is to get a counselor involved and start to get an idea of what is going on, it could be experimentation, first use etc.
But it is good that you are taking this seriously and addressing it early. Talk to a counselor and don?t even think about programs at this point. They are highly effective, but expensive/risky and should only be considered after you have exhausted all other avenues.
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So you are absolutely, 100% zero help to this woman. Why do you even post?
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Update: My son's counselor called me tonight to let me know it wasn't cocaine they found, it was baking soda. I asked my son about this and he said that he is selling fake cocaine to support his gaming habit. Is there a program designed specifically for gamers?
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You got that right, WHO: programs are expensive and RISKY. Parents do spend a ton of money, and run about a 100% RISK that their child WILL BE ABUSED. Give it a rest, WHO.
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***Anyway, I think they have a ways to go before we start suggesting programs for them.
I appreciate your caution, but who's this WE at Fornits that's going to recommend a program?
***The programs today are getting more and more specialized and the root cause has not been identified or even if there is a problem to begin with.
The programs- plural- today? More and more specialized? Which ones? You really do live in la-la land don't you? If Who wishes it were so, then it must be.
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On 2006-06-23 21:26:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"Come on debs tell me you thought my fake cell door prank is a keeper
Marginal at best.
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Give him a break. He's trying sooo hard. Huh?
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Yawn.....
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His private forum turned into a travel-log instead of a facility discussion site. Hmmmmm....
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On 2006-06-23 21:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"His private forum turned into a travel-log instead of a facility discussion site. Hmmmmm...."
Didn't know he had a private forum.
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On 2006-06-23 21:26:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"Come on debs tell me you thought my fake cell door prank is a keeper."
Yeh, it's a keeper. You're crackin me up tonight. Seriously, I'm still LMAO everytime I think about the "sharp pointy things" implying trust.
That's a keeper too, and should be included in the random quotes.
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That's nice.
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On 2006-06-23 21:49:00, Deborah wrote:
Yeh, it's a keeper. You're crackin me up tonight. Seriously, I'm still LMAO everytime I think about the "sharp pointy things" implying trust.
That's a keeper too, and should be included in the random quotes. "
Deb honey, I want you to get out more. :lol:
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BTW you snorters, what happens when someone snorts baking soda, other than clearly out the sinus cavities?
Maybe the kid is actually doing a service. What kid's gonna keep paying for something that gives no results. Unless there's a placebo effect, which is probably more likely with this age group.
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Ok, first ::troll:: The post is not real.
Second, you're incredibly disappointed if you snort baking soda while expecting cocaine.
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Yeh I spect it's a troll, but I do imagine there has been a kid/person or two who's unknowingly snorted baking soda. Just wondering what the effects are- hard crusty buggers or bleeding sinus, or something worse.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-06-23 22:27 ]
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You must be sighing a breath of relief. I am happy for you. I had a friend who sold fake pot to unsuspecting freshmen in high school. It lasted a few months and fissled when the word got out.
Stay on top of his activities. Maybe get him a job to keep him busy, chances are he may not spend it as sloppily if he earns it himself.
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On 2006-06-23 13:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My son was caught with cocaine in his high school. The school officer was confiscating his cellphone and a baggie of cocaine came out. Have to go to meet with administration on Monday. I am thinking about placing him away from home in a behav mod program. I am loking for one not too far from wher we live. We live in Pasadena, Florida. Any good behav mod programs not too far from there?"
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Who, you have a "friend, or daughter, or SOMEONE" who you claim has done EVERYTHING. STFU, ok?
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TheWho-
Says there are a "few good programs" but can't even name one.
If you bring up facts, he avoids them.
If you point out where he was mistaken, or lied outright, he ignores it and tries to patronize you and apologize for you to everyone else whose out to hear what they want to hear.
He somehow thinks protection from danger, loss of the priviladge of a car you dont own, and the kind of isolation a BM program uses are one and the same.
Basically, hes a troll, or a programmie, but the difference is indistinguishable, and moot at this point.
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On 2006-06-24 10:52:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
"TheWho-
Says there are a "few good programs" but can't even name one.
If you bring up facts, he avoids them.
If you point out where he was mistaken, or lied outright, he ignores it and tries to patronize you and apologize for you to everyone else whose out to hear what they want to hear.
He somehow thinks protection from danger, loss of the priviladge of a car you dont own, and the kind of isolation a BM program uses are one and the same.
Basically, hes a troll, or a programmie, but the difference is indistinguishable, and moot at this point.
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I thought you were against using ad hominems. Anyway Niles, glad to see you are back. I don?t think it is appropriate to suggest programs to someone who just found out their child was carrying Coke to school, there are so many other avenues to take first as an intervention and if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread you would have found out it was ?Baking soda?, no drugs were involved.
Of course this leads to other issues that potentially need to be addressed. But if we were to start mentioning programs to this parent it would have detracted from a more natural course for the child and family, which as we have seen is unfolding as it should. They seem to need a little guidance and support, nothing drastic, in my opinion.
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On 2006-06-24 11:13:00, TheWho wrote:
I don?t think it is appropriate to suggest programs to someone who just found out their child was carrying Coke to school,
They weren't ya dolt!! ::troll::
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On 2006-06-24 11:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-24 11:13:00, TheWho wrote:
I don?t think it is appropriate to suggest programs to someone who just found out their child was carrying Coke to school,
They weren't ya dolt!! ::troll:: "
Exactly, so why start naming them?
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Remember WHO, no one cares what you think is appropriate. No one on this forum listens to KNOWN liars, OK?
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On 2006-06-24 11:22:00, TheWho wrote:
Exactly, so why start naming them?"
Why respond to them at all? Looks like you're using an obvious troll to push your agenda. I think we're all starting to see just what that agenda is.
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Think WHO is gonna start some hinky little ole school somewhere out in the woods somewhere? Scary thought, isn't it? Some sick, mindless, liar scum in control of kids. Scary, scary thought.
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On 2006-06-24 11:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Think WHO is gonna start some hinky little ole school somewhere out in the woods somewhere? Scary thought, isn't it? Some sick, mindless, liar scum in control of kids. Scary, scary thought."
Yup, he's countin the bucks as you guys waste our time arguing with the greedy old fart. Well, at least he will FINALLY be able to name what he thinks are "a few good ones" (programs, that is) ::bigmouth::
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if you really want to "clean out the sinuses" snort horshradish
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i just did a huge rail ----- damn that was good.
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stop replying to the who and he'll go away.