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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 02, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
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I am your worst nightmare. I know who you are.
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that's the truth
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Ha ha! Someone got your goat DJ!
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Beware. We have a live one on our hands. Comments and responds to self, not once, but twice.
Do you work with the kids there at HLA? What is your job title?
Forget "HLA Detective" as a user name, "HLA Schizo" is more in order.
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DJ is definitely self-absorbed "par excellence", of course he wants all the attention.
Presumably because his life has not given him much or enough to meet his needs, this applies especially to his supposed life at HLA---from which he was booted right fast, when they caught on to him.
If somebody out there can bring him back to reality, so much the better for him, and for anybody who happens onto this site!!
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On 2006-06-02 18:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"DJ is definitely self-absorbed "par excellence", of course he wants all the attention.
Presumably because his life has not given him much or enough to meet his needs, this applies especially to his supposed life at HLA---from which he was booted right fast, when they caught on to him.
If somebody out there can bring him back to reality, so much the better for him, and for anybody who happens onto this site!!"
Ottawa,
Spill the beans. Why did they fire DJ? What exactly did they catch on to? Who's your source?
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Ottawa,
Spill the beans. Why did they fire DJ? What exactly did they catch on to? Who's your source?"
You tell me oh Wise One.
And since you show interest in my opinion let me give you a bit of advice: stop wasting your time advising anon posters to call themselves "HLA Detective" and look at your own life.
Attend to yourself: how about calling yourself "The Mom who Did Such a Crappy job That Somebody Else Got Put in Charge of Her Son's Education"?
And since you seem to care about my opinion, let me offer you some additional advice: in spite of all your destructive actions, your kid seems to be doing reasonably well, he's integrating his time at HLA into his life, making sense of it, not loving it but making sense of it.
Resist the urge to try to justify your own pathetic life by undermining his progress: don't be always trying to get him to join your team against HLA.
Let him live, let him have his own experience, be a mom for once, for God's sake.
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Where are these nut jobs coming from?
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Really DJ, one doesn't have to be a nut job to see that there are some deeply disturbed people populating this site.
Somebody who would actually talk about her child's processing of his HLA experience and lament that he just won't come over to her side: this is disturbed to me.
Narcissistic and disturbed.
I would suggest a hobby for this lady. Sewing or pie-making or scrap-booking.
And leave the poor kid alone.
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Not interested in your advice or opinion. You made the comment that DJ was fired. I asked you to elaborate and state your source. As expected, you know nothing about DJ.
And even less about me and my son, although you make it sound as if you have intimate knowledge of us. You go beyond arrogance.
You will make a fine program owner. You?ve certainly got what it takes, and then some.
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On 2006-06-02 20:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Really DJ, one doesn't have to be a nut job to see that there are some deeply disturbed people populating this site.
Somebody who would actually talk about her child's processing of his HLA experience and lament that he just won't come over to her side: this is disturbed to me.
Narcissistic and disturbed.
I would suggest a hobby for this lady. Sewing or pie-making or scrap-booking.
And leave the poor kid alone."
Pretty outrageous and hypocritical comments from a mother who watches her son on a monitor set up in his dorm room, just in case the programming didn't take. I understand the jealousy you feel about the close relationship I have with my son. I'm genuinely sorry you missed out on that with your own.
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On 2006-06-02 18:27:00, Deborah wrote:
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On 2006-06-02 18:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"DJ is definitely self-absorbed "par excellence", of course he wants all the attention.
Presumably because his life has not given him much or enough to meet his needs, this applies especially to his supposed life at HLA---from which he was booted right fast, when they caught on to him.
If somebody out there can bring him back to reality, so much the better for him, and for anybody who happens onto this site!!"
Ottawa,
Spill the beans. Why did they fire DJ? What exactly did they catch on to? Who's your source?"
You people have been round and round with this.
One, Anne Hall (Ottawa) is a program parent who locked up her kid at RMA.
Two, she's a wanna-be psychologist and has stated she wants to reopen CEDU.
Three, her kid is deeply disturbed and has threatened to find another poster's wife and rape her.
Four, Anne routinely posts in answer to her own posts, usually claiming to be someone who "knows Anne" and can vouch for her sanity and altruism.
Five, Anne herself knows nothing about HLA.
Six, Anne knows nothing about me (although she has made desperate appeals here to find my identity and has threatened to "ruin" me - she fancies herself a powerful person, but she's the ultimate spineless weakling).
Seven, Anne is very, very jealous of the fact that I am a licensed practitioner and she can't seem even to finish school - she's an "armchair analyst, " nothing more.
She's spent two years abusing victims of programs on this site "diagnosing" all of them as "angry with no life." It's just a projection and a window into her own life - very sad...
Read more about her here: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#198876 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13566&forum=11&start=60#198876)
As for my being "booted" from my job. Well, that's just a complete lie. I left HLA by my own accord after witnessing first-hand the abuse, neglect and bullshit program and philosophy run by nutcases with phony degrees and ex-CEDU staff with no education whatsover (like the ones who helped turn Annie's boy into a little wanna-be rapist - with Anne's full and undying support long after it was closed for abusing children).
You're a piece of work, Anne, that's for sure.
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"Compassion is the basis of morality."
-Arnold Schopenhauer
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On 2006-06-02 16:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am your worst nightmare. I know who you are."
You don't even make a blip on my radar. You're a pee-on at HLA and have no bearing on anything.
Why don't you grow up and get involved in the dialogue if you have something to say?
Parents, this is exactly how they treat your kids once you drive away. This is who is caring for your child. Pretty scary. Think about what a desperate, unbalanced, power-trippy staff member like this is capable of doing to a child behind closed doors. It's cause for concern.
If I were your boss, I'd be very concerned about how you confirm with your behavior all of the things people are saying here and on other boards. You are the "anti-HLA poster child."
Each one of your threatening asinine comments is directly related to lost income. Don't cry about it later when your job is circling the drain...
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On 2006-06-03 04:50:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
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On 2006-06-02 18:27:00, Deborah wrote:
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On 2006-06-02 18:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"DJ is definitely self-absorbed "par excellence", of course he wants all the attention.
Presumably because his life has not given him much or enough to meet his needs, this applies especially to his supposed life at HLA---from which he was booted right fast, when they caught on to him.
If somebody out there can bring him back to reality, so much the better for him, and for anybody who happens onto this site!!"
Ottawa,
Spill the beans. Why did they fire DJ? What exactly did they catch on to? Who's your source?"
You people have been round and round with this.
One, Anne Hall (Ottawa) is a program parent who locked up her kid at RMA.
Two, she's a wanna-be psychologist and has stated she wants to reopen CEDU.
Three, her kid is deeply disturbed and has threatened to find another poster's wife and rape her.
Four, Anne routinely posts in answer to her own posts, usually claiming to be someone who "knows Anne" and can vouch for her sanity and altruism.
Five, Anne herself knows nothing about HLA.
Six, Anne knows nothing about me (although she has made desperate appeals here to find my identity and has threatened to "ruin" me - she fancies herself a powerful person, but she's the ultimate spineless weakling).
Seven, Anne is very, very jealous of the fact that I am a licensed practitioner and she can't seem even to finish school - she's an "armchair analyst, " nothing more.
She's spent two years abusing victims of programs on this site "diagnosing" all of them as "angry with no life." It's just a projection and a window into her own life - very sad...
Read more about her here: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#198876 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13566&forum=11&start=60#198876)
As for my being "booted" from my job. Well, that's just a complete lie. I left HLA by my own accord after witnessing first-hand the abuse, neglect and bullshit program and philosophy run by nutcases with phony degrees and ex-CEDU staff with no education whatsover (like the ones who helped turn Annie's boy into a little rapist - with Anne's full and undying support long after it was closed for abusing children).
You're a piece of work, Anne, that's for sure.
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"Compassion is the basis of morality."
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-06-03 05:09 ]"
You know, I can't say for sure but I'm thinking that DJ probably gets chewed out by higher-ups at work alot. So it's understandable that he tries to be a big man here. Salve for a very wounded ego.
Whatever he does for a living, he seems to be able to play on the internet at all hours of the day and night. Calming to his wounded ego too because it keeps up the facade that he's right on top of everything, he's overseeing the site, ferretting out enemies, having the last word.
When all he's really got going for him is that he's here a lot. Look at the number of posts this character has! LOTS of time on his hands.
Now most of us, we can be here for a while, maybe we're here to check on some information, some person, or just in the mood to argue a bit, perhaps with the hope that other parents will benefit from seeing two sides to the debate.
And maybe we come back now and then to observe and even play in the drama. And will probably continue to, by the way. But we can't sit around like DJ, trying for the last word. This site is a detail, not a center of our lives.
So what DJ has to say next, I likely won't see for a bit, amusing and odd as I'm sure it'll be.
And generally speaking, there's not much to be gained in investing a lot of energy bickering over outlandish,unprovable facts and allegations with some irrelevant guy on the internet.
But to parents seeing this, please consider what this DJ character said in the post quoted above.
He is claiming that a school grad who he never met, who's life he knows absolutely nothing about, who I will guarantee has never posted here, who has absolutely no interest in this site, is a "RAPIST".
Some guy who he knows absolutely nothing about and he calls him a "RAPIST"!!
And why?
Because he doesn't like the guy's mom.
Doesn't that tell you all you have to know about Dysfunction Junction? And his intellect, judgment and integrity (or rather his lack of any of them).
Consider his actions here when you consider his advice on anything else.
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Pretty outrageous and hypocritical comments from a mother who watches her son on a monitor set up in his dorm room, just in case the programming didn't take. I understand the jealousy you feel about the close relationship I have with my son. I'm genuinely sorry you missed out on that with your own.
yeah, when she posted that she watches her son on a webcam i thought that was REALLY CREEPY. i'm glad your son TALKS to you Deborah, because to use a webcam to spy on your son is just SICK!
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And generally speaking, there's not much to be gained in investing a lot of energy bickering over outlandish,unprovable facts and allegations with some irrelevant guy on the internet.
so why do you do exactly that every single day? :wave:
must be something to it. :idea:
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Yeah it would be creepy to use a web-cam to spy on someone, if it really happened.
Please pull up the post where this statement was ever made.
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Precisely why you post anonymously Ottawa. You would rather some not know how much you are here, the rude comments you make, and the lack of information you actually possess.
Log in so others can identify your contributions and review your history. BTW, when was the last time you contributed anything that might help parents ?see two sides to the debate?? You know nothing about HLA, yet you post here regularly and nothing of any value. Just sarcastic 'drive-bys'. Your purpose appears to be to stalk and harass. You don?t ?participate in the drama? you incite it.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166378 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166378)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166384 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166384)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166395 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166395)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166404 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166404)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166418 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166418)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166426 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166426)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166432 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166432)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 510#166446 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=510#166446)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166473 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166473)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166477 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166477)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166485 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166485)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166489 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166489)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166513 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166513)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166582 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166582)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166690 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166690)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 555#166696 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=555#166696)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 555#166698 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=555#166698)
We?ve been over this before. If you want to be accountable and establish yourself as a program supporter with the readers, you could accomplish that by logging in consistently. Otherwise, you?re just another troll, spamming the forum.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#165989 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13488&forum=41&start=60#165989)
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-06-03 10:55 ]
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On 2006-06-03 07:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yeah it would be creepy to use a web-cam to spy on someone, if it really happened.
Please pull up the post where this statement was ever made.
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Woops! Didn't think that one would be found, huh? Ooopsie!
From StrugglingTeens:
"To Woodbury personnel who approve new logins and passwords:
I stumbled across your web site recently. A few years ago, as the mother of a teenager who was having many conduct problems, I enrolledmy son in Rocky Mountain Academy (RMA) and the results were more than his father and I could ever have hoped for. He is now a student at the U of Minnesota, looking at graduate school opportunities, but more than that, he is a happy, aware individual who is connected with those around him. He just spent a college semester abroad in a program that the U of M contracts with in Amsterdam, and since he knew that I would, as a parent, be a little nervous about him being overseas and in that particular location, we had him set up a webcam in his room to keep us in touch with his actitivities.
As a result of our family's experiences at RMA, not only has my son done well, but I was inspired to change my fown field of interest. I was a biologist and MBA ,and on the basis of my RMA interactions with Bill Valentine and with Mel Wasserman in the last Advanced Workshop that he gave at RMA, I entered the field of psychology. I was just granted my Masters' and am working on my Doctorate, and it is my hope to start a school of my own someday, keeping intact the ideas that Mel and his compatriates developed.[b/]
So, on this basis, I am very interested in your web site. I have submitted a registration and have been assigned a login (user) name and a password and am waiting to have approval, as I think that I can gain from hearing the concerns of other parents, as well as being able to contribute to the understanding of others on the basis of my own experience with an emotional growth boarding school.
A.S. Hall
Ottawa5@aol.com"
Credibility? Destroyed. Completely. :wave:
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That is pretty warped, Anne. Exactly how long do you expect to keep your grown son on "remote control"?
And, if you're going to quote me, at least use the "quote" feature and try for some accuracy.
Thanks, Deb, for posting links to this "disinterested" party's posts. Just goes to show the lengths that smugly arrogant people who feel secure in their anonymity will go...
Pretty sad, Anne. Especially for someone who claims not to have much interest in me. My own private cyber-stalker. How flattering!
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***He just spent a college semester abroad in a program that the U of M contracts with in Amsterdam, and since he knew that I would, as a parent, be a little nervous about him being overseas and in that particular location, we had him set up a webcam in his room to keep us in touch with his actitivities.
Contrast that with the spin she put on it for the readers of Fornits:
Just to explain how caring he is, let me tell you a short anecdote. He recently did a semester abroad in his college program. It was in a country where many drugs are legal and although he has had no problems with substance abuse since RMA, he sensed, I guess, that I was kind of nervous about how things would go for him there--I just didn't know, if he chose to dabble in these things that he would be OK.
So he set up a web page where he continually posted pictures of what he was doing, so I could go to it and check in on what he was up to--he posted pix there of various places he visited, his apartment, etc. And he did this without us ever talking explicitly about my concerns, he did it out of sensitivity and respect. He did it to give me security in the knowledge that he would manage well when he was on his own.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#56022 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6139&forum=11&start=30#56022)
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This woman is just so over the top...Apparently,
she has serious problems....
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And maybe we come back now and then to observe and even play in the drama. And will probably continue to, by the way. But we can't sit around like DJ, trying for the last word. This site is a detail, not a center of our lives.
Woops again! This statement of aloofness and disninterest doesn't measure up to your behavior, now does it?
This site IS the center of your life and DJ is the epicenter.
Read your posts again, Anne.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166378 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166378)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166384 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166384)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 480#166395 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=480#166395)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166404 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166404)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166418 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166418)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166426 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166426)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 495#166432 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=495#166432)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 510#166446 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=510#166446)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166473 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166473)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166477 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166477)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166485 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166485)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 525#166489 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=525#166489)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166513 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166513)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166582 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166582)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166690 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166690)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 555#166696 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=555#166696)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 555#166698 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=555#166698)
You're so full of it that it's not even funny. It's pathetic, sad and EXTREMELY creepy.
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Creepy is an understatement...
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she's been going on like this for years. she has a really sick, perverted interest in DJ. she seems to lose every argument based on merit so she goes directly for the crotch. people have asked her to take responsibility many times for what she does, but she'd rather carry on strictly avoiding taking responsibility or accountability, things she demands from everyone else.
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 540#166590 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=540#166590)
she lives a twisted little existence where might is right and the end justifies the means. no wonder she wants her own program. children are more or less helpless victims who can't fight back, just the way she likes it.
even though she gets exposed doing these things all the time, she just can't stop. ocd? probably. and a massive ego to go along with it. so interested in "winning" that anyone who disagrees can't just be refuted by argument, they must be DESTROYED personally and professionally. it's pretty disturbing isn't it?
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Frightening, to say the very least..
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Your mom is frightening and creepy
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And she's also a nigger! :wave:
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The BUS is back! What's up, BUS?
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At least she's good for a cheap and easy source of entertainment.
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On 2006-06-07 05:10:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"At least she's good for a cheap and easy source of entertainment. "
Your mom is good for a cheap and easy source of entertainment
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On 2006-06-07 17:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-07 05:10:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"At least she's good for a cheap and easy source of entertainment. "
Your mom is good for a cheap and easy source of entertainment"
If his mom is Anne Hall, then I'd definately have to agree with you!
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Speaking of cheap and easy entertainment, looks like DJ ran with his tail between his spindly little legs.
Someone stuffed a rag in his mouth finally. The HLA staff has laughed their asses off at his rantings, and finally did something about it.
Even though no one ever took him seriously, DJ was an irritating fly on the ass of the HLA higher ups. He done got swatted big time.
This forum is as dead as Peking Duck. All the Matthew, Mark, Lukes and Pauls are tucked in bed with their anti-psychotic meds. Steve (aka DJ) is retreating now that all his big prophecies have been shown to be a bunch of crap.
Goodnight, children. Time to put away your toys.
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Uhhh... right.
If you act this way towards us, one shudders to think how you act to the children incarerated in your institution.
Yes, parents, he really will treat them this way.
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I recently talked to two kids who came out of HLA within the last year and both thought it was fine. They didn't like it because of all the restrictions, but they thought the program did a good job with emotional growth. One girl had an eating disorder and went on to a regular boarding school and the other kid got pulled early due to financial reasons and went into the Marines. Neither kid was abused or damaged in any way.
DJ is full of shit. As are you, Milk Gargling Paul, Luke, Nihil
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How come the board got all changed?
Where did the poster who goes by the handle of Dysfunction Junction go? Did some entity like HLA really slap him down?
Face it, something pretty dramatic must have happened for everything to change like this , and at the same time for certain posters to just evaporate completely.
Somebody must know the story!
Post it up, some of us'll get a chance to see it before the "Moderator" (ha-ha-ha) deletes it.
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They didn't like it because of all the restrictions, but they thought the program did a good job with emotional growth.
Right. Like real teenagers are going to say that without heavy brainwashing.
I don't get this. Who exactly are you trolling? Do you think parents are going to ignore page after page of provable accusations just because some anonymous twit makes unsubstantiated claims of questionable success?
The fact that you're still whining about Paul and Luke months after they publicly left means that they own your tattered excuse for a soul.
The board change has been in the works for some time now, but you'd be too stupid to find something like this out for yourself.
DJ's last post was a week ago. This is usual for him. The odds of HLA actually being able to silence him (and how would you do such a thing? Does HLA have Mob connections or something? I doubt it- the Mafia wouldn't stand for the bullshit...) are negligible.
Wait, why am I replying to this trollbait again?
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Why indeed? You tell me, MGD. My bet is that it has to do with trying to diffuse other points of view offered here.
Which would, of course, suggest that you really DO think the opinions offered here influence parents and prospective parents.
Again, somebody give the reason for the board change and the simultaneous absence of certain, otherwise prolific (to the point of mania) posters.
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Speaking of cheap and easy entertainment, looks like DJ ran with his tail between his spindly little legs.
Someone stuffed a rag in his mouth finally. The HLA staff has laughed their asses off at his rantings, and finally did something about it.
Even though no one ever took him seriously, DJ was an irritating fly on the ass of the HLA higher ups. He done got swatted big time.
This forum is as dead as Peking Duck. All the Matthew, Mark, Lukes and Pauls are tucked in bed with their anti-psychotic meds. Steve (aka DJ) is retreating now that all his big prophecies have been shown to be a bunch of crap.
Goodnight, children. Time to put away your toys.
What's your relationship with HLA, Karen?
How is it you met two kids from HLA?
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Why indeed? You tell me, MGD. My bet is that it has to do with trying to diffuse other points of view offered here.
Which would, of course, suggest that you really DO think the opinions offered here influence parents and prospective parents.
Again, somebody give the reason for the board change and the simultaneous absence of certain, otherwise prolific (to the point of mania) posters.
O5,
We'd rather you wonder.
You'll find some of the answers you seek in "Web Forum Hosting".
Still holding on to the paranoid delusion that some (obviously not all) of your posts were deleted?
I have a suggestion. Copy and paste them into a word document. That should give you some foothold on reality. No drugs should be required for this condition.
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Speaking of cheap and easy entertainment, looks like DJ ran with his tail between his spindly little legs.
Someone stuffed a rag in his mouth finally. The HLA staff has laughed their asses off at his rantings, and finally did something about it.
Even though no one ever took him seriously, DJ was an irritating fly on the ass of the HLA higher ups. He done got swatted big time.
This forum is as dead as Peking Duck. All the Matthew, Mark, Lukes and Pauls are tucked in bed with their anti-psychotic meds. Steve (aka DJ) is retreating now that all his big prophecies have been shown to be a bunch of crap.
Goodnight, children. Time to put away your toys.
What's your relationship with HLA, Karen?
How is it you met two kids from HLA?
Oh, how I love it being stalked by two program parents. Karen and Anne, you are both ridiculous. If you think HLA has any power to shut me up or otherwise "modify" my behavior, you're crazier than the ideas you espouse.
Get over me, ladies. I'm sorry I haven't been able to attend to your nonsense lately, but I've been busy traveling and writing a doctoral thesis (something neither one of you will ever need to worry about :wink: ). It's time for you two to move on, get a life, get a grip and start harassing your kids again instead of me.
There's not much more to say about HLA at this point. The courts and the local authorities are going to handle the burden from here. Just watch and wait.
Bye, girls! Thanks so much for thinking of me (and wanting my attention so badly - it's flattering!)...
Ciao.
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Face it, something pretty dramatic must have happened for everything to change like this , and at the same time for certain posters to just evaporate completely.
the only drama around here is you and your hysterical rantings about victims of abusive programs. drama, drama, and MORE drama. you (anne and karen) have been posting here and on st for YEARS. when are YOU going to "get over it" and "move on"? you're two of the most no-life-having posters on this site. every time you post it shows how pathetic and small you both are. NO WONDER your kids are so messed up!
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This may come as a total shock, but there are many other people out there that think DJ, Deborah and their lemmings are blowing it out their ass. I am not Karen or Anne and have never posted on ST, whatever that is.
I happen to know people connected with the industry and know that most of what is posted on this forum is excellent fiction- nothing more.
Keep up the good work, guys. Pat each other on the ass and lie to yourselves and each other.
This forum and the whole site is dying a quiet death.
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Since you already admited that your friends work in the industry, then it's no wonder why you've swallowed all of the Behavior Mod good-program bullshit! Anyways, it is clear by the fact that you made no mention of it, that you never attended HLA personally; therefore, you have no first hand knowledge of what HLA is really like. There are many words I can think of to describe people like yourself whose personal convictions are based soley on what others tell them, I personally believe the term "Ignorant Fool" describes you best.
Unlike yourself, I was a student at HLA, and I know firsthand that
HLA staff are abusive, negligent, and totally unqualified to treat the
children placed in their care. Everything written here about HLA is true, and it obviously bothers the trolls like you who spend so much
time here trying to discredit us.
Parents take note: Everything written on this site about Abuse at
HLA is true. Behavior Modification/Emotional Growth Schools are a scam! WE ARE TELLING YOU THE TRUTH!
Save your child's mental health and your bank account by keeping them the hell away from HLA!
****I just fixed all of the typos, sorry about that, I guess I'm just illiterate, but hey I graduated HLA, I'm lucky that I can even spell my name!***
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So now we're just too important and busy to post here anymore, are we? This, after years of living at the site, I mean, just check the posting record.
"Oh, how I love it being stalked by two program parents. Karen and Anne, you are both ridiculous. If you think HLA has any power to shut me up or otherwise "modify" my behavior, you're crazier than the ideas you espouse.
Get over me, ladies. I'm sorry I haven't been able to attend to your nonsense lately, but I've been busy traveling and writing a doctoral thesis (something neither one of you will ever need to worry about ). It's time for you two to move on, get a life, get a grip and start harassing your kids again instead of me.
There's not much more to say about HLA at this point. The courts and the local authorities are going to handle the burden from here. Just watch and wait.
Bye, girls! Thanks so much for thinking of me (and wanting my attention so badly - it's flattering!)... "
Now, that's one sudden doctoral thesis. I mean what about the dozens of posts a day in the recent past?
Yeah, I'd agree "There's not much more to say about HLA at this point". The truth is: predictions of an imminent shut-down, the school not meeting payroll, the supposed little army of spies within the school, well it all came to nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
I'd almost feel sorry for the humiliation that completely unsubstantiated posts could cause a person except when said person has breen such a jerk to so many people.
I for one am not buying a sudden disappearance to pursue academic issues. It's something else, it may be as simple as the old lady saying "You're spending too much time at that computer terminal". It may embarrassment because all these HLA predictions amounted to nothing. It may be something more.
Keep hoping that somebody with an inside track on the subject will belly up with some info.
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Since you already admited that your friends work in the industry, then it's no wonder why you've swallowed all of the Behavior Mod good-program bullshit! Anyways, it is clear by the fact that you made no mention of it, that you never attended HLA personally; therefore, you have no first hand knowledge of what HLA is really like. There are many words I can think of to describe people like yourself whose personal convictions are based soley on what others tell them, I personally believe the term "Ignorant Fool" describes you best.
Unlike yourself, I was a student at HLA, and I know firsthand that
HLA staff are abusive, negligent, and totally unqualified to treat the
children placed in their care. Everything written here about HLA is true, and it obviously bothers the trolls like you who spend so much
time here trying to discredit us.
Parents take note: Everything written on this site about Abuse at
HLA is true. Behavior Modification/Emotional Growth Schools are a scam! WE ARE TELLING YOU THE TRUTH!
Save your child's mental health and your bank account by keeping them the hell away from HLA!
****I just fixed all of the typos, sorry about that, I guess I'm just illiterate, but hey I graduated HLA, I'm lucky that I can even spell my name!***
It's all coming to a head. The shill for HLA that says it "came to nothing" is just trying to salvage HLA's destroyed reputation.
This person can say what they like on here, but this is the stark reality of the situation:
HLA is broke and can hardly make payroll even after trimming 20% of its staff. Payroll checks have not cleared the bank on payday and the boss has told people to wait to cash checks.
HLA still has no licensed providers on staff.
HLA employs no licensed or certified teachers.
HLA advertises "42 Masters-level licensed counselors" when they actually have none.
The MBA project is dead and HLA can't borrow any money to resurrect it.
HLA has tax liens against their property.
HLA has been sued by several parents and has dished out big bucks to settle.
HLA staff have no health insurance because the facility can't afford to pay for it (it used to be full coverage).
Many Ed Cons have refused to refer to HLA due to the fact that it is a dangerous place that warehouses violent sexual predators, batterers and pedophiles.
So spin it how you like, shill, but the kid that posted the above statement is right on the money and you are woefully off the mark. You also sound a little jealous that you don't have a degree or education and other people's credentials and experience make you look pitiful. I can see how that makes you angry.
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An O5 Fantasy
She needs to feel like she's in the driver's seat... hasn't figured out she's not even a passenger.
"I'd almost feel sorry for the humiliation that completely unsubstantiated posts could cause a person except when said person has breen such a jerk to so many people."
O5, as anyone who was here when you arrived knows, this actually applies to you. It's not realistic to think you can slap someone and there not be some kind of reaction. You're not the victim here, you were the perpetrator. If you can't take the fallout (consequence for your rudeness) then why not just go away. What keeps you here? Glutton for punishment?
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Keep hoping that somebody with an inside track on the subject will belly up with some info.
well, annie, this just shows how pitiful little you know about anything. you like to make people THINK you know something, but you're really just a lazy housewife with too much time on your hands. the lack of attention from your husband, no job, and your inability to gain any traction in any area of your life causes you despair. you take this out on others. you are a a sad, petty little woman. and you're EXTREMELY jealous that you can't earn a degree or get a job. it shows. maybe you should go back to watching oprah and eating another half-gallon of ice cream, just like yesterday, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before...
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Oh, settle down which ever dim-witted regular came up with the previous post.
Home watching Oprah with a half gallon of ice-cream? I wish, after the hectic day I've had!
Now get this, once and for all, I hope: the true believers (there's about 5 of you left I think) take seriously comments like the mean-spirited ones somebody vomited out in the previous post.
The true believers are willing to accept that people (like me) who think there is something extreme and way-off-base going on here are evil---they're fat, their husband doesn't like them, whatever, whatever---scattered lies and irrelevencies, it's all good to people who just gotta split the world into black and white.
And of course there's you, Ms. Moderator, interesting that you've somehow had the time (Oprah and ice cream not-with-standing) to scour my posts, to plan whole life lines about me, to ascribe all kinds of posts to me that I did not write.
Once and for all: I am here, now and then, and in spite of what story line the die-hards want to believe, to give parents with kids in trouble an alternative point of view.
Which is that sending your kid away to a school is sometimes the lesser of the possible evils.
I wouldn't expect anyone to just take the word of a stranger on this, but at least keep an open mind. Don't be influenced by the craziness here, seek lots of sources and then make a decision with all the evidence you collect. And act.
You'd never guess it if all you read were the comments at this board, but if you look around you're gonna find lots of families who are glad that they acted, glad that they didn't buy into the paranoia at hate-oriented web site, Lots of kids and lots of families who are better because of that hard decision
I wish you well
O5
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***And of course there's you, Ms. Moderator, interesting that you've somehow had the time (Oprah and ice cream not-with-standing) to scour my posts, to plan whole life lines about me, to ascribe all kinds of posts to me that I did not write. ***
O5, Simple solution to your current distress. Have all your anonymous posts linked to your user name.
But then what would you have to rant about?
And don't flatter yourself. I didn't 'scour' your posts. I used a search term and found the posts you alledged were deleted. Have you bothered to find them?