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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: kpickle39 on December 31, 2002, 03:15:00 PM

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: kpickle39 on December 31, 2002, 03:15:00 PM

ok flashback to another time - Dec 31, 1978.  I'm sitting on front row and have been in the program for 5 days now.  I hate the place, but have been "cooperating" now for the time I have been in straight.  I was promised that I could leave on my 18th birthday if "...I would only sign yourself in..." (quote from Helen Petermann)  So here goes... It's about 8am and I'm waiving my hand wildly over my head trying to get called on.

John L - yes Mike

Mike - It's my birthday today (grin)

John L - yes Mike, I know that - happy birthday to you.

Mike - thanks John, now that I'm 18 I want to leave the program.

John L- now Mike do you really want to leave the program?  You know that you will wind up dead or insane or in jail.

Mike - I still want to leave, I was promised on my intake I could leave when I was 18.

John L - well Mike, I'm not going to stop you from leaving, but....these 300 kids in the group love you so much and want you to stay straight, so they will stop you.

Mike (in my head "oh shit") I bolt for the back door which is guarded by another kid on his phases.   I make about 10 steps when I am gang tackled by 4 other kids.   I go down very hard, smashing my face into the concrete floor.  I then tried to get up , but I was pinned down to the ground.  I start screaming and swearing and stuggling to get up.  I am pinned.  I am not allowed to move.   I get flipped over onto my back and am sat on; one kid on each arm and leg and one to hold my head.  I scream, stuggle and curse.   This goes on for some time until I am physically exahausted and go limp.  I am still sat on.  One of the kids starts whispering to me "...you will never get out of here until you are straight" and then proceeds to thump me in the chest w/his knuckle.  I start struggling all over again.   The kid on my left leg starts sticking me in the foot with some kinda stick or twig or something.  I go crazy and stuggle again until I can't struggle any more.  I am now crying cause I am so mad and exhausted adn hurt.   After the morning rap is over, I am picked up and sat again on the front row.  I slump down in my chair and cry.  The 2nd phaser behind me whispers in my ear that I am a druggie pussy.  

When I get home that night, I have bruises on my legs, and arms where I was held down.  

God it sucked to be in straight.

I try and leave a few days later...I will re-live that when the day comes.   24 frikkin years later adn I still live w/the straight memories.  Sometimes I wish they would just go away...  
 

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
-- Albert Einstein

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Tampa survivor on December 31, 2002, 03:37:00 PM

Hey Mike
As a 5 time split, your recollection was very appreciated.  I know what ya mean by the memories still being strong after all these years.  Keep kicking it.
Bill

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: 2dogs on December 31, 2002, 06:16:00 PM

Shit...as a 1 time graduate , your story is very appreciated. Hearing that makes it feel like only yesterday.  You are a great writer, how about some more....2dogs

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: 2dogs on December 31, 2002, 06:16:00 PM

Shit...as a 1 time graduate , your story is very appreciated. Hearing that makes it feel like only yesterday.  You are a great writer, how about some more....2dogs

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Shelby on December 31, 2002, 06:59:00 PM

Happy Birthday, Mike. You're safe now.

Shelby   ::heart::

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Anonymous on December 31, 2002, 09:28:00 PM

you fucking pussy druggie!!

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Shelby on December 31, 2002, 11:04:00 PM

You know all about being a pussy, don't you ANONYMOUS? Hiding behind your monitor, slinging insults, refusing to use your name, and still brainwashed after all these years. You sound like former staff to me. There's a special spot in Hell reserved for you and your kind.

SHELBY

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Antigen on December 31, 2002, 11:16:00 PM

On 2002-12-31 18:28:00, Anonymous wrote: "you fucking pussy druggie!!"

You just keep on tellin' yourself that, you brain-dead Nazi coward.

Freedom has a thousand charms to show, That slaves, howe'er contented, never know.
William Cowper, a British Christian poet & hymn writer (18th century)

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Anonymous on December 31, 2002, 11:22:00 PM

Shelby - you said it best.  Only a REAL PUSSY would spout off and not sign their name!!!

Kpickle is cool people, let him be!

thea

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Anonymous on January 01, 2003, 03:09:00 AM

::puke::  all over yers.

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: METALGOD8 on January 01, 2003, 03:14:00 AM

::puke::  all over yers.

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Anonymous on January 01, 2003, 01:12:00 PM

Hello it's anonymous again.  I was in when Mike tried to split, I remember hearing his head  hit the ground when he fell; I remember hearing his screams, makes me laugh to this day.

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Serpico on January 02, 2003, 06:05:00 AM

Be very careful what you say about our friend Mike. The only "Pussy" on this board is you. Im glad is the rest of the team that you think its "fuunny" so that also means that you agreed with the abuse, failed to report it and trying to be abusive again. I guess that would put you on our list.


Tread lightly anon... this team is serious... All     and of course that would include you will be held accountable for the abuse they participated in.


You are one sick puppy anon.....to even joke about it or do it to arouse the anger in all of us is SICK... Go Get Help....To try to re abuse anyone on this board is to ask for this team to respond.

if you think its so funny and are not a coward then I challenge you to post your real name here..





We will tolerate NO MORE ABUSE...OF ANY CHILD,, OR ADULT ANYWHERE...........





Sincerely,


Marti Heath, 727-517-3841 If your so gutsy call me...  


Former Staff and Closer of the Sarasota Program Age 37 and Best friend to Mike..... :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

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Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Serpico on January 02, 2003, 06:18:00 AM

Oh and by the way anon. If you think getting us angry enough to make a public threat or any threat to you is to underestimate us...

We AINT THAT STUPID........

We have bigger goals in mind. Angry yes, waiste another moment of time on you sick coward NO..

Trust me , we are very good at playing poker, we were trained well. So, please no more lame attempts to try to get this team to threaten you. ..
Surely, you can do matter than that... Is that really all you got..... Sad..

But know this , we do want to talk to you since it was so "funny".. We would like you to mail us a statement of what happened to mike and sign it dont forget to include your full name and the fact that you thought it was funny... And since you thought it was funny and you find nothing criminally wrong with what happened then you should have NO problem giving us a full and complete statement..
The address to mail it to is on
http://www.straightincorporated.com (http://www.straightincorporated.com)

Oh yeah,,,
Love ya

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Shelby on January 02, 2003, 08:55:00 AM

You think child abuse is funny? You laugh at the thought of screaming kids being slammed to the floor? For the sake of everyone on the planet, I sincerely hope you're sterile.

Shelby

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: ramprato on January 02, 2003, 09:13:00 AM

:???: I agree with Marti,

Sounds like you need to go get some REAL help this time to take care of that self-hatred consuming you. Yep, you really need to sort things out, what's the point of life if you are so consumed with hating everything every moment? I hope you are not taking it out on animals too. You're a real sad ticket and what's sadder is God knows how long you have been like this and not seen it for yourself and figured there was nothing you could do about it but continue hating.

It has to be some kind of sickness to lash out at people in complete anonymity and get off on it. So ~ I don't care if you respond to this or not, I'll just consider the source. You really don't know Mike anyway because you never would of been that mean to him, he's a really good guy. They really do have some decent people out there that'll help you sort out things, better go find one. You unfortunately to me really show the world the end result going through Straight had on some people every time you post.

Ken

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: kpickle39 on January 02, 2003, 10:23:00 AM

Hey my friends, don't worry bout this guy.  He ain't worth it.  I'm fine now, and that is all that really matters.  My bruises have healed, I'm no longer on 1st phase or any phase for that matter.  Life is good, I have a great family and many wonderful friends.   Let's let it go.

Best regards to all my friends and to anonymous as well.

Mike, Straight Survivor '78 - '80  

In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a trade unionist. Then they came for Catholics, and I didn?t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
--Protestant minister Martin Neimoller

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Maltese Falcon on January 02, 2003, 10:24:00 AM

Mr. Anonymous,

Of all the people I?ve meet during my life Mr. Sherman is one of the best.  I am privileged and honored to have him in my life.  It sickens me to see someone ?LABEL? a complete stranger a ?Druggie? and then this label ?in their minds? justifies abuse.  

Your writing ability in the aforementioned quote ?you fucking pussy druggie!!? is a classic, and says it all.

Your monumental ignorance and despicable values are deplorable.  I look forward to holding you accountable soon if you are linked to our current targets!  I will relish looking you in the eye, and I will not waiver in my pursuit.

?WE ARE COMING?

Chris! :skull:

...the people have a right to keep and bear arms.
-- Patrick Henry and George Mason Debates

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: ClayL on January 02, 2003, 11:32:00 AM

Thank you for the thoughtful and intellectually superior response. The maturity astounds me and I have not seen it's like in 20 some odd years! Please keep up the good work, it reminds me of why I got away from the straight crowd. It was all so stifling to self-respect, growth, kindness and the need for human nuturing. Something I think we all lacked only to have the hope of getting it torn, violently in some cases, from us. It has only been through MUCH therapy and a damn good wife that I am as balanced as I am today.

One last thing, I have found that I do not have to be vulgar, foul mouthed and rude to get attention today. I can simply ask for it.

Clay

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on January 06, 2003, 01:10:00 AM

It finally occurred to me why I could not remember your split attempt.  It was because I was on one of my first permissions as a 4th phaser.  While you were being taken to the ground and lacerated by lumps of fiberglass residue, I was sitting in climate controlled comfort at the Tyrone Six Theatres watching the movie "The Deer Hunter."  I cannot even remember if you lived at our house then or not.  Nothing was said of any split attempt to me that I can remember, but then, the light and space of that movie really put the zap on my head and it stayed with me for several weeks afterward.  The day you tried to split fell on a Sunday according to the Almanac.
Wednesdays and Sundays were always the best days to make a break for it, because there were the least amount of 5th phasers and staff in the building.

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Antigen on January 06, 2003, 01:38:00 AM

On 2003-01-01 10:12:00, Anonymous wrote: "Hello it's anonymous again.  I was in when Mike tried to split, I remember hearing his head  hit the ground when he fell; I remember hearing his screams, makes me laugh to this day."

Is that you Charles?

A free people ought...to be armed...
George Washington, 1790

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Tampa survivor on January 06, 2003, 07:11:00 AM

On 2003-01-02 05:55:00, Shelby wrote: "You think child abuse is funny? You laugh at the thought of screaming kids being slammed to the floor? For the sake of everyone on the planet, I sincerely hope you're sterile. Shelby"

Shelby got that right.
I think back to the MANY times I was sat upon, beaten and physically tortured and I will NEVER forget the look that people like ANON had in their eyes, the grins taken by being in physical command, the sick pleasure of domination.  
As crusading purveors of right and wrong, people like ANON are the same ones who protest the porn shop renting DVDs down the street, but have their wives tie them up and spank them late at night with the blinds drawn.
Now that defines "pussy' in my book.
Bill
12/80-12/82

Title: my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
Post by: Tampa survivor on January 06, 2003, 07:14:00 AM

Mike:  Sorry your memory jogged the jolly button on that sicko.  At least we know what we are fighting against.  He's probably a cop now.  
I would much rather know you than him.  Keep doing good and keep the details on the reunion coming.
Bill Hadley