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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: michelle9905 on April 17, 2006, 01:48:00 AM
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I never attended Straight however, a good friend of mine did. She spent time in facilities and homes in Texas and Florida. When she first told me of the horrible experiences she had there as a teenager I was shocked, but I didn't take it too seriously because she can be a bit nerotic. Recently, I grew concerned and found out how serious and unjust Straight really was.
Coincidentally, I am currently preparing a speech for my Business Communications class at the University of Florida MBA program. The assignment topic is to do a 5 minute informative speech on any company. I am doing my speech on Straight. I know it will blow their mind.
Can someone please help me by telling me about the programs format (i.e. stages, privilages, punishments). I want to try to give an objective view point, but all info would be helpful.
I appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Michelle
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Hello Michelle - I would be glad to provide youi info about straight. I was in straight in the late 70's. I live in Gainesville now.
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On 2006-04-17 05:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hello Michelle - I would be glad to provide youi info about straight. I was in straight in the late 70's. I live in Gainesville now. "
Michelle - i have a yahoo email address u can contact me through. straight_st_pete@yahoo.com
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You might want to include information about how Straight still exists under other names: for instance: Straight Orlando is now Safe.
Straight also changed their name to Drug Free America Foundation too. Other Straight spin-offs -Kids Helping Kids, Pathway Family Center, Life....
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You also might want to include information about the fact that Miller Newton fondled ppl's junk liberally... :lol:
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really.....my friend spent years in Straight Orlando. She is going freak when I tell her that it still exists under another name.
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Please tell her about SIBS too!
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On 2006-04-17 18:15:00, michelle9905 wrote:
"really.....my friend spent years in Straight Orlando. She is going freak when I tell her that it still exists under another name."
here ya go.....more on how Straight still exists today simply by changing the name, & how other spin-offs started.
http://www.thestraights.com/flowchart.htm (http://www.thestraights.com/flowchart.htm)
Yup she might freak...I freaked when I found out Kids Helping Kids currently operates out of the former Cincinnati Straight warehouse.
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That chart needs to be updated! :flame:
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On 2006-04-16 22:48:00, michelle9905 wrote:
"I never attended Straight however, a good friend of mine did. She spent time in facilities and homes in Texas and Florida. When she first told me of the horrible experiences she had there as a teenager I was shocked, but I didn't take it too seriously because she can be a bit nerotic. Recently, I grew concerned and found out how serious and unjust Straight really was.
Coincidentally, I am currently preparing a speech for my Business Communications class at the University of Florida MBA program. The assignment topic is to do a 5 minute informative speech on any company. I am doing my speech on Straight. I know it will blow their mind.
Can someone please help me by telling me about the programs format (i.e. stages, privilages, punishments). I want to try to give an objective view point, but all info would be helpful.
I appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Michelle "
Go Gators!
Ok, I'll make this as brief and objective as possible:
Phase 1: No outside contact. No radio, TV, reading of billboards, street signs or t-shirt lettering. Anything with letters that you see you must avert your eyes. You spend 10 hours a day in "group", and at night you stay in a host home. In this host home, the person in charge of you is your "oldcomer", who is responsible for never letting you out of sight. If you move across the room, you must be held onto by the back of your pants, with the oldcomer's thumb through the back belt loop (a practice called "beltlooping".
You must ask to pick up a utensil with which to eat your food at the table. You are accompanied to the bathroom, where you are watched while you perform your elimination procedures. After you are finished, (depending on the oldcomer) you are either given your alotted amount of toilet paper, or you are watched sternly as you unroll it yourself - and you'll know when you've taken too much.
The only words you are allowed to read are your own that you write in a notebook each night, in a prescribed format: The Moral Inventory. In this "homework assignment", you must "confess" something (even something as dumb as wishing you had a second helping of mac-n-cheez for dinner... if you have nothing else to confess, anything will do), then you must describe in detail how this is detrimental to you and others, then you must in detail describe how you will work on never covet thy neighbors mac-n-cheez again.
(Yes, phase one is lengthy - it's really all I saw)
Phase two - you get to return to your home, and lord over others as an "Oldcomer" You are still forbidden to read, write, or hear about anything about "the outside". You're still not allowed to be outside for any longer than it takes to walk yourself and your newcomer charge to the front door.
Phase three - You get to return to school, and have the same oldcomer priveliges as phase two. However, now you can be in the same room with a radio or a TV, you just can't get too interested in it. At this phase you're allowed to linger in the front yard as long as adults are watching... just not too long.
Phase four - you can go to school and hang outside freely, as long as someone is watching you from the inside. You can watch TV and listen to radio at this point. You get one day off from group.
Phase five - Same as phase four, except now you qualify to be a Staff Trainee.
Phase six - (aka "Staff Trainee") - almost all sixth phasers were Staff Trainees at my spinoff program. I believe the delineation between phase five and six were that you no longer hovered over newcomers on phase six.
And then one Friday night, you reach the pinnacle - you're told you're a "Seventh Stepper"! HUZZAH!
(and the crowd goes wild)
Sara
UF - CLAS Class of 2002
...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds..
--Samuel Adams
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helena,
your phase description is fairly accurate until phase 4.
4th Phase is 3 DAYS OFF from group per week, can go out on approved permissions, radio, tv, reading all ok again.
5th phase is 4 days off a week, stand on side of group as first link in chain-of-command.
6th phase was a 6 month follow-up. must be in on Saturday morning for 6 phase rap, put in 6 hours a week back to the group, and attend the first Open Meeting of each month.
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This druggie is correct.
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On 2006-04-17 20:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
" helena,
your phase description is fairly accurate until phase 4.
4th Phase is 3 DAYS OFF from group per week, can go out on approved permissions, radio, tv, reading all ok again.
5th phase is 4 days off a week, stand on side of group as first link in chain-of-command.
6th phase was a 6 month follow-up. must be in on Saturday morning for 6 phase rap, put in 6 hours a week back to the group, and attend the first Open Meeting of each month."
Oh yeah! Thanks. :grin:
If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
--Thomas Jefferson
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My friend's name is Ingrid Allen. She was incarcerated in Straight Orlando 1987-1991. She started the program at age 12, she is now 30 and still has many unresolved issues with her past and she is plagued with nightmares of Stratght. Does anyone remember her? She needs help!
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i remember her. she left right after i went in. i feel her pain. tracy trolio
ps she was very sweet.
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Thanks for the information. The deeper I dig the scarier the story gets. I have a BA in Psychology and I have worked in the victim advocacy feild. The supposed 'therapy' that was forced onto Straight's children is criminal. It breaks down spirts and hurts the soul. If anything, Straight could cause a drug problem, not cure one. I am sick for all or the young victims of this cruel organization.
The political connections are almost more scary. I have lived my whole life in Florida and I am shocked.
What a world we live in!
For all the victims of Straight:
Understand that paid and suffering in life can make you a stronger person if you allow it.
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On 2006-04-17 20:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
4th Phase is 3 DAYS OFF from group per week, can go out on approved permissions, radio, tv, reading all ok again.
5th phase is 4 days off a week, stand on side of group as first link in chain-of-command.
This is where the shit gets really twisted. In order to achieve and keep your 4th or 5th phase status you must become a "strong oldcomer". This means "confronting" lower phasers over whatever you could come up with to show them how much you "cared" about them. You were "holding them accountable". If you didn't keep up this appearance, sure as shit you'd get "stood up" in 4th or 5th phase rap with demands to know "what's going on with you" because "not being strong" with someone was a sure sign that you were "holding something in" and if you didn't confess you'd be back out on the street, deadinsaneorinjail etc. and the confrontation would continue until you came up with something. All it really was was a snitch culture that turned us all into monsters for a time. Kill or be killed sort of mentality.
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On 2006-04-18 18:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-17 20:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
4th Phase is 3 DAYS OFF from group per week, can go out on approved permissions, radio, tv, reading all ok again.
5th phase is 4 days off a week, stand on side of group as first link in chain-of-command.
This is where the shit gets really twisted. In order to achieve and keep your 4th or 5th phase status you must become a "strong oldcomer". This means "confronting" lower phasers over whatever you could come up with to show them how much you "cared" about them. You were "holding them accountable". If you didn't keep up this appearance, sure as shit you'd get "stood up" in 4th or 5th phase rap with demands to know "what's going on with you" because "not being strong" with someone was a sure sign that you were "holding something in" and if you didn't confess you'd be back out on the street, deadinsaneorinjail etc. and the confrontation would continue until you came up with something. All it really was was a snitch culture that turned us all into monsters for a time. Kill or be killed sort of mentality."
I was never privvy to the lingo, but I often thought it strange (and sometimes still hear these words today) that my third phase oldcomer at the time would close her eyes and shake her head back and forth empahically while saying, "I am going to be strong with you...." Then she'd open her eyes and it was business as usual.
She was MIA at the LIFE Reunion - guess she didn't hold such a "value" on the "friendships" that formed. :roll: Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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[ This Message was edited by: Helena Handbasket on 2006-04-18 19:14 ]
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On 2006-04-18 19:13:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:
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On 2006-04-18 18:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-17 20:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
4th Phase is 3 DAYS OFF from group per week, can go out on approved permissions, radio, tv, reading all ok again.
5th phase is 4 days off a week, stand on side of group as first link in chain-of-command.
This is where the shit gets really twisted. In order to achieve and keep your 4th or 5th phase status you must become a "strong oldcomer". This means "confronting" lower phasers over whatever you could come up with to show them how much you "cared" about them. You were "holding them accountable". If you didn't keep up this appearance, sure as shit you'd get "stood up" in 4th or 5th phase rap with demands to know "what's going on with you" because "not being strong" with someone was a sure sign that you were "holding something in" and if you didn't confess you'd be back out on the street, deadinsaneorinjail etc. and the confrontation would continue until you came up with something. All it really was was a snitch culture that turned us all into monsters for a time. Kill or be killed sort of mentality."
I was never privvy to the lingo, but I often thought it strange (and sometimes still hear these words today) that my third phase oldcomer at the time would close her eyes and shake her head back and forth empahically while saying, "I am going to be strong with you...." Then she'd open her eyes and it was business as usual.
She was MIA at the LIFE Reunion - guess she didn't hold such a "value" on the "friendships" that formed. :roll: Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket??
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[ This Message was edited by: Helena Handbasket on 2006-04-18 19:14 ]"
And how do YOU know she didn't go? Were you there? I was. Maybe I saw you?
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On 2006-04-18 19:13:00, Helena Handbasket
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I was never privvy to the lingo, but I often thought it strange (and sometimes still hear these words today) that my third phase oldcomer at the time would close her eyes and shake her head back and forth empahically while saying, "I am going to be strong with you...." Then she'd open her eyes and it was business as usual.
Thats cause she was really "cliquing" with you.
You should have reported her,then you would have made your phases faster.
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Check out Help At Any Cost. She's compiled a lot of information about Straight, KHK, Bootcamps and the industry in general. There's a whole chapter regarding our very own Miler Newton aka Doktor Miller Newton aka Father Cassian.
Men had better be without education than be educated by their rulers.
--Thomas Hodgskin