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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: lostnfound on April 04, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
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I was in straight in 85-87. I got out and was on staff for about 2yrs or so, having left several staff 2 or 3 times, but somehow always ended up back on staff. After I left staff the last time, I got up & out of Dodge (ok, Springfield) after the guy I was dating (also on staff) held a gun to my head, threatened my family & stalked me. I moved 2000 miles away only to move in with someone else I knew in straight. The friendship fell out after some rather bad shit happened to me, she couldn?t deal with it (she actually told me this to my face?thanks for being honest) and I attempted to kill myself. Another friend drove me to the hospital while I was unconscious & there I sat in a PI for a couple of weeks. After that, I wanted nothing to do with anyone from that place. After another fucked up relationship, I came back home with my daughter. That was 11 yrs ago. I haven?t spoken with anyone from straight, I have tried very hard not to think or talk about straight, or repeat anything that I had see or done to myself or other people. I have gotten calls from old friends and newcomers, but I could not bring myself to return the calls. I truly wanted nothing to do with anyone or anything from that place.
About a month ago, I got a phone call from an old newcomer. I suppose if the caller ID read her name, I wouldn?t have answered the phone, but it showed Private Caller and I answered - for whatever reason. She was actually calling to say ?thanks? for treating her like a human (her words not mine), rather then the disrespect and mistreatment that she had gotten, right down to the medical treatment that she was denied and desperately needed. I was dumbfounded about the things that she was telling me. She told me about this site and others like thestraights.com, the people that I knew that killed themselves and the things that people were going through. I was glad to hear that she was at least surviving, and told her that I was truly sorry about the things that happened to her and the repercussions that it had on her. She will be paying the price - physically - for the rest of her life??I haven?t seen a post from you in a while on here & I don?t know if you are reading this now. Either way - I am so sorry, I should have done more to help you!!!!
After getting off the phone with her, I think I spent about 3-4 hours online reading and reading and then rereading because I had no idea that any of this was out here. I was in complete and total shock about the things that I read. The law suites, the abuse, the beatings, the rapes, everything. I had no fucking clue that any of this was going on. I know that the place was hell - I added to that hell for A LOT of people - for that I am truly sorry. I realized what I had done way too late (many years after the fact). But I was in total shock reading. For the first time since I can?t remember when, I had no fucking clue how I felt and I didn?t like it at all. It was so surreal. How could this really have been happened???? I think the one that got me the most was reading about Glenn S. and how he killed himself. He always seemed like such a strong person and a roll model and a friend. I had to stop reading at that point (of course this had nothing to do with the fact that it was 2am and I had to get up in 3 & ½ hrs).
I woke up the next morning, going through the motions of getting ready for work: shower, ok done, brush the teeth & hair, ok done, get the coffee?..bust out in tears?..shit, get yourself together??wake up the child, get her moving, do the make-up?..shit, wash the tears off the face?.do the make-up again?.damn it, wash the tears again??fuck it?.no make-up?.get in the car & drive to work. OK, call this client?.run this report?.dry the eyes - again?..attempt to explain to the boss why I have to leave after being there for an hour. Thank god for having a laid back boss & lots of vacation time. I spent the next 2 days in my sweets, reading and reading and remembering things that had been long forgotten, and then attempting to explain to my mother that I really was ok?..bull shit, but hey, I?ve gotten through worse, right?
I spent the next 2 weeks finding myself rushing home from work to get on this site to read more. It was like a whole new addiction. I couldn?t read enough. I spent a lot of time crying. There was a part of me that was extremely grateful that I actually turned out ok (for the most part). Then I felt bad for feeling good. Then I was like "God damn that place has got me playing fucking head games .....20 yrs later!" I?m not saying that I have not gone through my fair share of shit because I have and I know that it?s largely because of the hell that I have brought upon other people. I had to step away for a time and now, I?m finding myself back here.
I guess the guilt is eating at me and I need to say to say to everyone that I fucked up while I was on staff or any other point in my tenure?..I?m sorry. I was one of the people that spent a lot of time yelling at people and telling them that I thought they were full of shit, and so on and so forth - we all know the type of ?straightling? I?m talking about. I know that I did this initially while on my phases to get people off my back and I guess I feel into the ?straight way? and never got out of it. I went on staff because I wanted to help people - I just didn?t know any other way to help people other then what I had been taught.
If you have read though this whole thing, I thank you because god damn, its long.
Dragonfly - you had asked me in a PM if I would be willing to partake in a gathering at Backlick Rd. after inviting the press to help explain how 20yrs later, people are still suffering. Count me in!! I can?t believe that there are other straight-type programs out there that are still performing the same practices. If there is something that I can do to help stop this from happening to any other kids, I will do it - it is my responsibility to do so now that I am aware of this on going problem.
The best thing that I have learned from my child is the wonders of her personality in all it's willfulness is that it?s hers. It?s not mine. My job as her mother is to help guide her through childhood, teach her values and allow her to make her own decisions in life for that is what makes her a person. She is not mine to control. An likewise, other children in this world are not their parents to control for that is nothing but their inability to cope with their own problems.
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Check your messages.
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Well that took some of something. For what it's worth, we all helped perpatrate, even those of us who were fos and focused on the door the whole time.
Welcome.
Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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Check messages again.
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On 2006-04-04 17:35:00, Eudora wrote:
"Well that took some of something. For what it's worth, we all helped perpatrate, even those of us who were fos and focused on the door the whole time.
Welcome.
Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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I do not understand this? How could you have perpatrated anything? Were you victimising people? Were you screaming and yelling at people about how they were shit and would never amount to anything if they didn't "follow the program and get honest?" No, I don't think so. They were the ones that were telling people to be true to themselves and what was truely right. It was the rest of us that had no clue and were foolish to believe the bull shit. I could be wrong, I guess I don't understand your statement here. Can you please explain this to me?
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On 2006-04-04 16:18:00, lostnfound wrote:
"I was in straight in 85-87. I got out and was on staff for about 2yrs or so, having left several staff 2 or 3 times, but somehow always ended up back on staff. After I left staff the last time, I got up & out of Dodge (ok, Springfield) after the guy I was dating (also on staff) held a gun to my head, threatened my family & stalked me. I moved 2000 miles away only to move in with someone else I knew in straight. The friendship fell out after some rather bad shit happened to me, she couldn?t deal with it (she actually told me this to my face?thanks for being honest) and I attempted to kill myself. Another friend drove me to the hospital while I was unconscious & there I sat in a PI for a couple of weeks. After that, I wanted nothing to do with anyone from that place. After another fucked up relationship, I came back home with my daughter. That was 11 yrs ago. I haven?t spoken with anyone from straight, I have tried very hard not to think or talk about straight, or repeat anything that I had see or done to myself or other people. I have gotten calls from old friends and newcomers, but I could not bring myself to return the calls. I truly wanted nothing to do with anyone or anything from that place.
About a month ago, I got a phone call from an old newcomer. I suppose if the caller ID read her name, I wouldn?t have answered the phone, but it showed Private Caller and I answered - for whatever reason. She was actually calling to say ?thanks?for treating her like a human (her words not mine), rather then the disrespect and mistreatment that she had gotten, right down to the medical treatment that she was denied and desperately needed. I was dumbfounded about the things that she was telling me. She told me about this site and others like thestraights.com, the people that I knew that killed themselves and the things that people were going through. I was glad to hear that she was at least surviving, and told her that I was truly sorry about the things that happened to her and the repercussions that it had on her. She will be paying the price - physically - for the rest of her life??I haven?t seen a post from you in a while on here & I don?t know if you are reading this now. Either way - I am so sorry, I should have done more to help you!!!!
After getting off the phone with her, I think I spent about 3-4 hours online reading and reading and then rereading because I had no idea that any of this was out here. I was in complete and total shock about the things that I read. The law suites, the abuse, the beatings, the rapes, everything. I had no fucking clue that any of this was going on. I know that the place was hell - I added to that hell for A LOT of people - for that I am truly sorry. I realized what I had done way too late (many years after the fact). But I was in total shock reading. For the first time since I can?t remember when, I had no fucking clue how I felt and I didn?t like it at all. It was so surreal. How could this really have been happened???? I think the one that got me the most was reading about Glenn S. and how he killed himself. He always seemed like such a strong person and a roll model and a friend. I had to stop reading at that point (of course this had nothing to do with the fact that it was 2am and I had to get up in 3 & ?hrs).
I woke up the next morning, going through the motions of getting ready for work: shower, ok done, brush the teeth & hair, ok done, get the coffee?.bust out in tears?.shit, get yourself together??wake up the child, get her moving, do the make-up?.shit, wash the tears off the face?do the make-up again?damn it, wash the tears again??fuck it?no make-up?get in the car & drive to work. OK, call this client?run this report?dry the eyes - again?.attempt to explain to the boss why I have to leave after being there for an hour. Thank god for having a laid back boss & lots of vacation time. I spent the next 2 days in my sweets, reading and reading and remembering things that had been long forgotten, and then attempting to explain to my mother that I really was ok?.bull shit, but hey, I?ve gotten through worse, right?
I spent the next 2 weeks finding myself rushing home from work to get on this site to read more. It was like a whole new addiction. I couldn?t read enough. I spent a lot of time crying. There was a part of me that was extremely grateful that I actually turned out ok (for the most part). Then I felt bad for feeling good. Then I was like "God damn that place has got me playing fucking head games .....20 yrs later!" I?m not saying that I have not gone through my fair share of shit because I have and I know that it?s largely because of the hell that I have brought upon other people. I had to step away for a time and now, I?m finding myself back here.
I guess the guilt is eating at me and I need to say to say to everyone that I fucked up while I was on staff or any other point in my tenure?.I?m sorry. I was one of the people that spent a lot of time yelling at people and telling them that I thought they were full of shit, and so on and so forth - we all know the type of ?straightling?I?m talking about. I know that I did this initially while on my phases to get people off my back and I guess I feel into the ?straight way?and never got out of it. I went on staff because I wanted to help people - I just didn?t know any other way to help people other then what I had been taught.
If you have read though this whole thing, I thank you because god damn, its long.
Dragonfly - you had asked me in a PM if I would be willing to partake in a gathering at Backlick Rd. after inviting the press to help explain how 20yrs later, people are still suffering. Count me in!! I can?t believe that there are other straight-type programs out there that are still performing the same practices. If there is something that I can do to help stop this from happening to any other kids, I will do it - it is my responsibility to do so now that I am aware of this on going problem.
The best thing that I have learned from my child is the wonders of her personality in all it's willfulness is that it?s hers. It?s not mine. My job as her mother is to help guide her through childhood, teach her values and allow her to make her own decisions in life for that is what makes her a person. She is not mine to control. An likewise, other children in this world are not their parents to control for that is nothing but their inability to cope with their own problems."
WARNING!!!
DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS OR YOUR REAL NAME TO ANYBODY WHO MAY EMAIL TO YOU AS A RESULT OF YOU POSTING HERE!!!
DO NOT POST YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS HERE!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO ANYBODY OVER THE PHONE OR IN PERSON,EVEN AT PROTEST EVENTS!!!
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE PUBLICLY AT PROTESTS AND OTHER EVENTS BEWARE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE YOU WILL MEET THERE!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
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Shut the fuck up. only people who have something to hide act like you do. Lostnfound, i think you have support here and people that have been through the same so dont listen to inconsequential nobodies spout off about nothing. i respect your post.
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On 2006-04-04 21:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up. only people who have something to hide act like you do. Lostnfound, i think you have support here and people that have been through the same so dont listen to inconsequential nobodies spout off about nothing. i respect your post."
See what I mean!
Lostnfound,DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO THESE PEOPLE!
Just because you have shared a common experience with THESE PEOPLE is no reason to feel as though you "know" them.
BEWARE!!!
GUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS AND REAL IDENTITY!!!
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On 2006-04-04 21:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 16:18:00, lostnfound wrote:
"I was in straight in 85-87. I got out and was on staff for about 2yrs or so, having left several staff 2 or 3 times, but somehow always ended up back on staff. After I left staff the last time, I got up & out of Dodge (ok, Springfield) after the guy I was dating (also on staff) held a gun to my head, threatened my family & stalked me. I moved 2000 miles away only to move in with someone else I knew in straight. The friendship fell out after some rather bad shit happened to me, she couldn?t deal with it (she actually told me this to my face?thanks for being honest) and I attempted to kill myself. Another friend drove me to the hospital while I was unconscious & there I sat in a PI for a couple of weeks. After that, I wanted nothing to do with anyone from that place. After another fucked up relationship, I came back home with my daughter. That was 11 yrs ago. I haven?t spoken with anyone from straight, I have tried very hard not to think or talk about straight, or repeat anything that I had see or done to myself or other people. I have gotten calls from old friends and newcomers, but I could not bring myself to return the calls. I truly wanted nothing to do with anyone or anything from that place.
About a month ago, I got a phone call from an old newcomer. I suppose if the caller ID read her name, I wouldn?t have answered the phone, but it showed Private Caller and I answered - for whatever reason. She was actually calling to say ?thanks?for treating her like a human (her words not mine), rather then the disrespect and mistreatment that she had gotten, right down to the medical treatment that she was denied and desperately needed. I was dumbfounded about the things that she was telling me. She told me about this site and others like thestraights.com, the people that I knew that killed themselves and the things that people were going through. I was glad to hear that she was at least surviving, and told her that I was truly sorry about the things that happened to her and the repercussions that it had on her. She will be paying the price - physically - for the rest of her life??I haven?t seen a post from you in a while on here & I don?t know if you are reading this now. Either way - I am so sorry, I should have done more to help you!!!!
After getting off the phone with her, I think I spent about 3-4 hours online reading and reading and then rereading because I had no idea that any of this was out here. I was in complete and total shock about the things that I read. The law suites, the abuse, the beatings, the rapes, everything. I had no fucking clue that any of this was going on. I know that the place was hell - I added to that hell for A LOT of people - for that I am truly sorry. I realized what I had done way too late (many years after the fact). But I was in total shock reading. For the first time since I can?t remember when, I had no fucking clue how I felt and I didn?t like it at all. It was so surreal. How could this really have been happened???? I think the one that got me the most was reading about Glenn S. and how he killed himself. He always seemed like such a strong person and a roll model and a friend. I had to stop reading at that point (of course this had nothing to do with the fact that it was 2am and I had to get up in 3 & ?hrs).
I woke up the next morning, going through the motions of getting ready for work: shower, ok done, brush the teeth & hair, ok done, get the coffee?.bust out in tears?.shit, get yourself together??wake up the child, get her moving, do the make-up?.shit, wash the tears off the face?do the make-up again?damn it, wash the tears again??fuck it?no make-up?get in the car & drive to work. OK, call this client?run this report?dry the eyes - again?.attempt to explain to the boss why I have to leave after being there for an hour. Thank god for having a laid back boss & lots of vacation time. I spent the next 2 days in my sweets, reading and reading and remembering things that had been long forgotten, and then attempting to explain to my mother that I really was ok?.bull shit, but hey, I?ve gotten through worse, right?
I spent the next 2 weeks finding myself rushing home from work to get on this site to read more. It was like a whole new addiction. I couldn?t read enough. I spent a lot of time crying. There was a part of me that was extremely grateful that I actually turned out ok (for the most part). Then I felt bad for feeling good. Then I was like "God damn that place has got me playing fucking head games .....20 yrs later!" I?m not saying that I have not gone through my fair share of shit because I have and I know that it?s largely because of the hell that I have brought upon other people. I had to step away for a time and now, I?m finding myself back here.
I guess the guilt is eating at me and I need to say to say to everyone that I fucked up while I was on staff or any other point in my tenure?.I?m sorry. I was one of the people that spent a lot of time yelling at people and telling them that I thought they were full of shit, and so on and so forth - we all know the type of ?straightling?I?m talking about. I know that I did this initially while on my phases to get people off my back and I guess I feel into the ?straight way?and never got out of it. I went on staff because I wanted to help people - I just didn?t know any other way to help people other then what I had been taught.
If you have read though this whole thing, I thank you because god damn, its long.
Dragonfly - you had asked me in a PM if I would be willing to partake in a gathering at Backlick Rd. after inviting the press to help explain how 20yrs later, people are still suffering. Count me in!! I can?t believe that there are other straight-type programs out there that are still performing the same practices. If there is something that I can do to help stop this from happening to any other kids, I will do it - it is my responsibility to do so now that I am aware of this on going problem.
The best thing that I have learned from my child is the wonders of her personality in all it's willfulness is that it?s hers. It?s not mine. My job as her mother is to help guide her through childhood, teach her values and allow her to make her own decisions in life for that is what makes her a person. She is not mine to control. An likewise, other children in this world are not their parents to control for that is nothing but their inability to cope with their own problems."
WARNING!!!
DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS OR YOUR REAL NAME TO ANYBODY WHO MAY EMAIL TO YOU AS A RESULT OF YOU POSTING HERE!!!
DO NOT POST YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS HERE!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO ANYBODY OVER THE PHONE OR IN PERSON,EVEN AT PROTEST EVENTS!!!
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE PUBLICLY AT PROTESTS AND OTHER EVENTS BEWARE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE YOU WILL MEET THERE!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!"
:tup: :tup:
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On 2006-04-04 21:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 16:18:00, lostnfound wrote:
"I was in straight in 85-87. I got out and was on staff for about 2yrs or so, having left several staff 2 or 3 times, but somehow always ended up back on staff. After I left staff the last time, I got up & out of Dodge (ok, Springfield) after the guy I was dating (also on staff) held a gun to my head, threatened my family & stalked me. I moved 2000 miles away only to move in with someone else I knew in straight. The friendship fell out after some rather bad shit happened to me, she couldn?t deal with it (she actually told me this to my face?thanks for being honest) and I attempted to kill myself. Another friend drove me to the hospital while I was unconscious & there I sat in a PI for a couple of weeks. After that, I wanted nothing to do with anyone from that place. After another fucked up relationship, I came back home with my daughter. That was 11 yrs ago. I haven?t spoken with anyone from straight, I have tried very hard not to think or talk about straight, or repeat anything that I had see or done to myself or other people. I have gotten calls from old friends and newcomers, but I could not bring myself to return the calls. I truly wanted nothing to do with anyone or anything from that place.
About a month ago, I got a phone call from an old newcomer. I suppose if the caller ID read her name, I wouldn?t have answered the phone, but it showed Private Caller and I answered - for whatever reason. She was actually calling to say ?thanks?for treating her like a human (her words not mine), rather then the disrespect and mistreatment that she had gotten, right down to the medical treatment that she was denied and desperately needed. I was dumbfounded about the things that she was telling me. She told me about this site and others like thestraights.com, the people that I knew that killed themselves and the things that people were going through. I was glad to hear that she was at least surviving, and told her that I was truly sorry about the things that happened to her and the repercussions that it had on her. She will be paying the price - physically - for the rest of her life??I haven?t seen a post from you in a while on here & I don?t know if you are reading this now. Either way - I am so sorry, I should have done more to help you!!!!
After getting off the phone with her, I think I spent about 3-4 hours online reading and reading and then rereading because I had no idea that any of this was out here. I was in complete and total shock about the things that I read. The law suites, the abuse, the beatings, the rapes, everything. I had no fucking clue that any of this was going on. I know that the place was hell - I added to that hell for A LOT of people - for that I am truly sorry. I realized what I had done way too late (many years after the fact). But I was in total shock reading. For the first time since I can?t remember when, I had no fucking clue how I felt and I didn?t like it at all. It was so surreal. How could this really have been happened???? I think the one that got me the most was reading about Glenn S. and how he killed himself. He always seemed like such a strong person and a roll model and a friend. I had to stop reading at that point (of course this had nothing to do with the fact that it was 2am and I had to get up in 3 & ?hrs).
I woke up the next morning, going through the motions of getting ready for work: shower, ok done, brush the teeth & hair, ok done, get the coffee?.bust out in tears?.shit, get yourself together??wake up the child, get her moving, do the make-up?.shit, wash the tears off the face?do the make-up again?damn it, wash the tears again??fuck it?no make-up?get in the car & drive to work. OK, call this client?run this report?dry the eyes - again?.attempt to explain to the boss why I have to leave after being there for an hour. Thank god for having a laid back boss & lots of vacation time. I spent the next 2 days in my sweets, reading and reading and remembering things that had been long forgotten, and then attempting to explain to my mother that I really was ok?.bull shit, but hey, I?ve gotten through worse, right?
I spent the next 2 weeks finding myself rushing home from work to get on this site to read more. It was like a whole new addiction. I couldn?t read enough. I spent a lot of time crying. There was a part of me that was extremely grateful that I actually turned out ok (for the most part). Then I felt bad for feeling good. Then I was like "God damn that place has got me playing fucking head games .....20 yrs later!" I?m not saying that I have not gone through my fair share of shit because I have and I know that it?s largely because of the hell that I have brought upon other people. I had to step away for a time and now, I?m finding myself back here.
I guess the guilt is eating at me and I need to say to say to everyone that I fucked up while I was on staff or any other point in my tenure?.I?m sorry. I was one of the people that spent a lot of time yelling at people and telling them that I thought they were full of shit, and so on and so forth - we all know the type of ?straightling?I?m talking about. I know that I did this initially while on my phases to get people off my back and I guess I feel into the ?straight way?and never got out of it. I went on staff because I wanted to help people - I just didn?t know any other way to help people other then what I had been taught.
If you have read though this whole thing, I thank you because god damn, its long.
Dragonfly - you had asked me in a PM if I would be willing to partake in a gathering at Backlick Rd. after inviting the press to help explain how 20yrs later, people are still suffering. Count me in!! I can?t believe that there are other straight-type programs out there that are still performing the same practices. If there is something that I can do to help stop this from happening to any other kids, I will do it - it is my responsibility to do so now that I am aware of this on going problem.
The best thing that I have learned from my child is the wonders of her personality in all it's willfulness is that it?s hers. It?s not mine. My job as her mother is to help guide her through childhood, teach her values and allow her to make her own decisions in life for that is what makes her a person. She is not mine to control. An likewise, other children in this world are not their parents to control for that is nothing but their inability to cope with their own problems."
WARNING!!!
DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!! DO NOT!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS OR YOUR REAL NAME TO ANYBODY WHO MAY EMAIL TO YOU AS A RESULT OF YOU POSTING HERE!!!
DO NOT POST YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS HERE!!!
DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO ANYBODY OVER THE PHONE OR IN PERSON,EVEN AT PROTEST EVENTS!!!
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE PUBLICLY AT PROTESTS AND OTHER EVENTS BEWARE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE YOU WILL MEET THERE!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!"
:tup: :tup: "
I agree with this one.
DONT tell anybody who you are.
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On 2006-04-04 21:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up. only people who have something to hide act like you do. Lostnfound, i think you have support here and people that have been through the same so dont listen to inconsequential nobodies spout off about nothing. i respect your post."
See what I mean!
Lostnfound,DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO THESE PEOPLE!
Just because you have shared a common experience with THESE PEOPLE is no reason to feel as though you "know" them.
BEWARE!!!
GUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS AND REAL IDENTITY!!!"
Thank you for your words of wisdom. I have been reading quite a bit on this forum and understand what you are talking about. Name slinging seems to be something that some people enjoy. I will be careful!
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On 2006-04-05 14:14:00, lostnfound wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up. only people who have something to hide act like you do. Lostnfound, i think you have support here and people that have been through the same so dont listen to inconsequential nobodies spout off about nothing. i respect your post."
See what I mean!
Lostnfound,DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO THESE PEOPLE!
Just because you have shared a common experience with THESE PEOPLE is no reason to feel as though you "know" them.
BEWARE!!!
GUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS AND REAL IDENTITY!!!"
Thank you for your words of wisdom. I have been reading quite a bit on this forum and understand what you are talking about. Name slinging seems to be something that some people enjoy. I will be careful! "
the poster that gives u advice is the head name slinger. He is a fool
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the poster that gives u advice is the head name slinger. He is a fool"
If he posted as Anonymous, how do you know it was him?
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Check your PMs. Just sent one to ya...
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I hope the advice giver you are referencing was the dumbass who says everything i capital letters. Lostnfound check your pm.
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I wanted to take a moment and let everybody on this site know that it works sometimes. I touched base with an old friend from straight tonight and it made me feel good. I was glad to hear that she was doing well, and was happy to share some of my present. The past was talked about but I dont think dwelled on. It was a fun conversation because the focus was on "how are you" and not "how were you". This site sucks a lot because of angry people, but tonight I found it to be a little therapeutic, which is what I am sure it was intended for. I will always be willing to wade through a little shit to get to something that matters.
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On 2006-04-05 17:59:00, funster wrote:
"I wanted to take a moment and let everybody on this site know that it works sometimes. I touched base with an old friend from straight tonight and it made me feel good. I was glad to hear that she was doing well, and was happy to share some of my present. The past was talked about but I dont think dwelled on. It was a fun conversation because the focus was on "how are you" and not "how were you". This site sucks a lot because of angry people, but tonight I found it to be a little therapeutic, which is what I am sure it was intended for. I will always be willing to wade through a little shit to get to something that matters. "
Getting in touch with old friends here is not the same as meeting new "friends" here.
DONT GIVE OUT YOUR IDENTITY!
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On 2006-04-06 07:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
Getting in touch with old friends here is not the same as meeting new "friends" here.
DONT GIVE OUT YOUR IDENTITY!"
GET OVER IT!!!! ::bwahaha2:: ::bwahaha2:: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2006-04-05 14:14:00, lostnfound wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 21:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up. only people who have something to hide act like you do. Lostnfound, i think you have support here and people that have been through the same so dont listen to inconsequential nobodies spout off about nothing. i respect your post."
See what I mean!
Lostnfound,DO NOT GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS TO THESE PEOPLE!
Just because you have shared a common experience with THESE PEOPLE is no reason to feel as though you "know" them.
BEWARE!!!
GUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATIONS AND REAL IDENTITY!!!"
Thank you for your words of wisdom. I have been reading quite a bit on this forum and understand what you are talking about. Name slinging seems to be something that some people enjoy. I will be careful! "
Its more than name slinging.
If you want to meet these people,ONLY do it at a protest or public event.Dont make arrangments to "meet" with anyone that you dont already know personally,or give any info over the phone,in emails,or even in a restaurant they invite you too.
Its the "activists" here that are out to get you.
The ones who seem to be trying to "make a difference".
They use this message board to compile lists of peoples personal info so they can use it for their own benifit in the future.
they really take advantage of desperate folks who stumble on this website.
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On 2006-04-06 07:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
Its more than name slinging.
If you want to meet these people,ONLY do it at a protest or public event.Dont make arrangments to "meet" with anyone that you dont already know personally,or give any info over the phone,in emails,or even in a restaurant they invite you too.
Its the "activists" here that are out to get you.
The ones who seem to be trying to "make a difference".
They use this message board to compile lists of peoples personal info so they can use it for their own benifit in the future.
they really take advantage of desperate folks who stumble on this website."
You're funny! :rofl: :rofl:
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I agree. get a life dude.
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if meeting you in person you were as much of an asshole as you are on this board i would post your info here too!!!!
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stop it, niggers.
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On 2006-04-05 14:43:00, lostnfound wrote:
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the poster that gives u advice is the head name slinger. He is a fool"
If he posted as Anonymous, how do you know it was him?"
LOL!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2006-04-05 17:59:00, funster wrote:
"I wanted to take a moment and let everybody on this site know that it works sometimes. I touched base with an old friend from straight tonight and it made me feel good. I was glad to hear that she was doing well, and was happy to share some of my present. The past was talked about but I dont think dwelled on. It was a fun conversation because the focus was on "how are you" and not "how were you". This site sucks a lot because of angry people, but tonight I found it to be a little therapeutic, which is what I am sure it was intended for. I will always be willing to wade through a little shit to get to something that matters. "
EXACTLY!!!Now get out there and Kill Mike Sherman!
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Sorry, I missed this earlier.
On 2006-04-04 20:30:00, lostnfound wrote:
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On 2006-04-04 17:35:00, Eudora wrote:
"Well that took some of something. For what it's worth, we all helped perpatrate, even those of us who were fos and focused on the door the whole time.
Welcome.
Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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I do not understand this? How could you have perpatrated anything? Were you victimising people? Were you screaming and yelling at people about how they were shit and would never amount to anything if they didn't "follow the program and get honest?" No, I don't think so. They were the ones that were telling people to be true to themselves and what was truely right. It was the rest of us that had no clue and were foolish to believe the bull shit. I could be wrong, I guess I don't understand your statement here. Can you please explain this to me?
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LOL, I didn't mean the misbehavers! I was talking about the rest of us. We enforced the program. We confronted people; even about extremely sensitive private matters. Some people snitched on each other. Some people restrained people. Sometimes very violently. We all beltlooped newcomers.
Worst of all we all, if we were to move toward the door, we all pretended very, very convincingly that all of this and much, much more was good and right and even normal and that anyone who was insulted, angered or driven to some sort of nervous breakdown was wrong and just exhibiting signs of their substance abuse problem. And we supported or told these lies to people's parents.
That's what I meant by "we're all perpatrators". All but a rare few.
"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]
--Ben Guillory
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On 2006-04-05 17:59:00, funster wrote:
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"I wanted to take a moment and let everybody on this site know that it works sometimes. I touched base with an old friend from straight tonight and it made me feel good(1). I was glad to hear that she was doing well, and was happy to share(2) some of my present. The past was talked about(3) but I dont think dwelled on(3). It was a fun conversation because the focus was on "how are you" and not "how were you". This site sucks a lot because of angry people(4), but tonight I found it to be a little therapeutic, which is what I am sure it was intended for(5). I will always be willing to wade through a little shit to get to something that matters. "
1) In real life, it's not really so much about feelings.
2) Program usage, normal usage would be something like ... that's just not a normal thing for anyone to say in public about an adult friend.
3) While gramaticians don't consider the passive tense to be technically erroneous, it is considered bad form.
I admit that I?m rather hyper-sensitive to the subtlest nuances of words. When a newsreader states that: ?A settler was killed in a drive-by shooting.? My linguistic antennae buzz and shriek in alarm. The sentence may be grammatically correct, but its every word and term are filled will political messages.
More: http://mailman.io.com/pipermail/freeman ... 02401.html (http://mailman.io.com/pipermail/freemanlist/2004-June/002401.html)
(4) Why are they so angry, do ya' think? And who are they angry at? Any idea?
(5) No, it's not. See anon posts in all caps above. It's absolutely fucking bug all nuts to think that this is anything like a safe, therapeutic environment. My reason for hosting this site hasn't changed. It's all about getting the story out. If you hook up w/ good old friends, that's nice to hear but not my purpose or to my credit. If you hook up w/ some psychotic mind-fuker who trashes your life and heart, not my problem.
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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Drug war POW
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`80 - `82
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[ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-04-07 06:19 ]
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You get an f for grading my feelings you pitiful, bored, loser. are you trying to sabotage the usefullness of your own site?
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And anyway, i thought this site was about you making money off of it. look at all of the ads that come on these threads now that you sanctioned and get paid for. this site is about ecommerce and your own inflated head. :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Anon one, no, I'm getting good use out of it. As I say, the whole idea was to draw program culture and philosophy out from behind closed doors and into the light of day where normals can see it for what it is. Frankly, after nearly 20 years, I had given up on trying to explain it to anyone. Who would believe it? But this? This works! And thanks for your valuable contributions.
And, btw, while we, the staff of SIBS are conferring about whether to start you over or just suspend your responsibilities, you need t0 look over your posting history and consider making amends to all of the people who's feelings you have tried, and failed, to stomp into the ground. Where the hell is your awareness, Funster?!! How is it that a split druggie fuckup such as I am able to out program you w/o even breaking a sweat? Have a seat!
Anon #2 LOL, There ya' go thinkin' again! I've told you and I've told you, that always leads to trouble!
Fact is this shit costs me money. This sort of content is just not commercially viable. I've been wanting to test that theory for a couple of years now (among a few others), but just didn't have time till last December to deal with the inevitable fall out. I'll be expecting my very first check for $100 from google sometime this month or next. That helps to offset the roughly $40 - $75 monthly bandwidth bill (in addition to regular hosting fees) that you guys enjoy for free. Talk about cussin' the farmer with your mouth full!
But that's ok, as noted above, it's a bargain for me for a number of reasons. And thanks for your contribution too. ::boycott:: ya' fuckin socialist!
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys
--P.J. O'Rourke
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You started this site because straight was the only eventfull thing to happen to your life. You moderate and comment on posts so randomly that there is no way you can claim to have this site mean anything other than what you feel like on any given sunday. You should pay visitors to this site for helping you achieve your own leadership in a paid for on-line little cult you can claim to be involved in that helps you be able to look in the mirror every morning and get over the fact that you have not achieved much in life. keep on praying for reincarnation to deal with your achievelessness existense.
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How many anons are posting here?
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Where is the thread where everyone was arguing about the google fees and all? I cant find it and have something to add.
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On 2006-04-07 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You started this site because straight was the only eventfull thing to happen to your life.
And your basis for that assessment is? Dude, don't even try to psychoanalyse me. You're not even a pshrink and, quite frankly, intellectually, you're bringing a knife to a gun fight. Not that you haven't got some native intellect. Just that your head is so addled with Stepcraft fog it impedes normal reasoning processes.
This is exactly the same "conversation" I've had so many times over the last 30 years or so w/ goose Stepping AA heads. What it all comes down to is this; I reject, disassemble and explain the cult, therefore I must be wrong, fucked up, bitter, etc., ad nauseum. Don't confuse you with the facts. I must be wrong because I'm among the splits, pulls and fuckups. You just have to wear me down till I break down and confess my inferiority, profess gratitude for you're generosity in putting up w/ my fucked up self and beg for forgiveness and help to see the light. You're doing it out of love to help me overcome my problems... ::boycott:: You know, if Mama Cass Elliot would have shared that damn sandwich
with Karen Carpenter, they would both still be alive today!!!!!!!
--chongo
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i was asking about the anons because you addressed two of them. i give you a d- on your lengthy diatribe, but just because you took the time from your busy schedule to respond. Please stop making me pro straight, i never gave a shit who finished and who didnt. and anytime i want to feel "lovey dovey" i will. and since i am feeling lovey dovey today, i found some old pictures of straight things and have gotten some requests to post them but do not know how, anyone know how you would take a physical picture to this forum?
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and as far as stepcraft fog goes, she who smelt it, dealt it.
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oh, and most importantly:
i am rubber,
and you are glue,
whatever you say,
bounces off me,
and sticks to you.
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Oh, and speaking of progress and accomplishments growing out of this motley excuse for a movement, Maia has been on the air a few times recently:
Jello Biafra on the troubled parent industry, a Program love song (http://fornits.com/sounds/Jello.m3u) and a level headed view of the human condition (one of the few country/western songs I like) Alright Guy by Todd Snyder
What am I accomplishing by all of this? I'm delivering on a promise that I made to father me and that he asked me to renew several times, even on his death bed; "Every day, make someone think!"--Crazy Mac
Is it working?It (the Bible) is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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On 2006-04-07 07:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
i was asking about the anons because you addressed two of them. i give you a d- on your lengthy diatribe,
But it worked! I got you to own those anon posts. That was just about the whole point. If you want to take it a little further, would you mind if I were to tie all of your anon posts to your username? It is fear that first brought Gods into the world.
--Gallus Petronius, 1st Century Roman courtier
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If you want to take it a little further, would you mind if I were to tie all of your anon posts to your username?
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