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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
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Bucie has sent a letter to a bunch of EdCons all over the country inviting them to visit HLA within the next few weeks. Guess he wants to show them that they shouldn't believe all the big, bad rumors they've been hearing.
Also, the HLA now has an official Director of Public Relations listed on the website. Hmmmm.....
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Sure, they can add a PR Director but they can't photoshop a big ol lion dick out of the picture. ::bwahaha2::
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Who was the lucky candidate?
Position: Director of Development
Organization: Hidden Lake Academy
Location: Georgia
Date posted: 8/12/2005
Hidden Lake Academy
Dahlonega, Georgia
Director of Development
Hidden Lake Academy is a therapeutic, college preparatory, boarding school for thirteen to seventeen year old students. HLA was created in 1994 by Dr. Leonard Buccellato, a practicing psychologist and educational consultant with more than twenty years of experience serving teenagers with clinical issues. HLA was designed with therapeutic and academic curricula that, when combined, provide the best possible program for teens in need of specialized services. The school occupies a serene 210 acre campus in the mountains of Northern Georgia. The schools' mission is to provide a learning experience for students that have not succeeded academically or socially in other settings.
The school is seeking a proven development professional that has an enthusiasm for independent education. S/he must be a well-organized manager and a team player. S/he must have experience in all aspects of development and have excellent interpersonal, written and verbal communication skills. S/he will be responsible for creating and implementing a complete development plan. S/he will report directly to the President. A bachelor's degree and minimum five years of non-profit development experience are required.
This is an excellent opportunity with a unique, educational institution. A competitive compensation and benefits package and relocation assistance is provided. Interested candidates should visit the School's Web site at hiddenlakeacademy.com for further details on this exceptional school. Qualified candidates should send a résumé, cover letter and references via e-mail to:
Tom Plihcik
Senior Search Consultant
Carney, Sandoe & Associates http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:S0T ... o%22&hl=en (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:S0TGLSLUr80J:philanthropy.com/jobs/id.php%3Fid%3D0000421859-01+%22leonard+buccellato%22&hl=en)
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Doesn't damage control usually fall to SHH?
SHH - Where are you? We're curious for some of that "confirmation" you're able to run and get whenever you see a post that worries you. Is Bill really leaving? Is it true?
SHH?
........................................................................................*crickets*
:lol:
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Hey, while you're at it would you ask him to photoshop that lion dick outta the picture on HLA's main page please?
Thanks sweetcheeks. :grin:
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Any way we can find out who he sent them to?
So, we can send our own...Also, I'd like them to check the 'Chalet', where the children that are
only on restricitons (for 1 1/2 hours, HA) are
sent when visitors are there...
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On 2006-03-07 19:51:00, Deborah wrote:
"Who was the lucky candidate?
Position: Director of Development
Organization: Hidden Lake Academy
Location: Georgia
Date posted: 8/12/2005
Hidden Lake Academy
Dahlonega, Georgia
Director of Development
Hidden Lake Academy is a therapeutic, college preparatory, boarding school for thirteen to seventeen year old students. HLA was created in 1994 by Dr. Leonard Buccellato, a practicing psychologist and educational consultant with more than twenty years of experience serving teenagers with clinical issues. HLA was designed with therapeutic and academic curricula that, when combined, provide the best possible program for teens in need of specialized services. The school occupies a serene 210 acre campus in the mountains of Northern Georgia. The schools' mission is to provide a learning experience for students that have not succeeded academically or socially in other settings.
The school is seeking a proven development professional that has an enthusiasm for independent education. S/he must be a well-organized manager and a team player. S/he must have experience in all aspects of development and have excellent interpersonal, written and verbal communication skills. S/he will be responsible for creating and implementing a complete development plan. S/he will report directly to the President. A bachelor's degree and minimum five years of non-profit development experience are required.
This is an excellent opportunity with a unique, educational institution. A competitive compensation and benefits package and relocation assistance is provided. Interested candidates should visit the School's Web site at hiddenlakeacademy.com for further details on this exceptional school. Qualified candidates should send a résumé, cover letter and references via e-mail to:
Tom Plihcik
Senior Search Consultant
Carney, Sandoe & Associates http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:S0T ... o%22&hl=en (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:S0TGLSLUr80J:philanthropy.com/jobs/id.php%3Fid%3D0000421859-01+%22leonard+buccellato%22&hl=en)
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I wonder if this position is to replace Bill...?
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It was posted in August, but who knows? Could be.
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HLA was designed with therapeutic and academic curricula that, when combined, provide the best possible program for teens in need of specialized services.
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Keep burning that candle at both ends Buch, should work out just fine.
Shhh where are you to explain to us how one can be both traditional AND non traditional at the same time.
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Development and Public Relations are two entirely different functions.
:silly:
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On 2006-03-08 05:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Development and Public Relations are two entirely different functions."
And in this case diametrically opposed to one another.
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Public Relations = Advertising
This reminds me of a quote from the famous economist Stephen Leacock:
"Advertising may be described as the science of arresting the human intelligence long enough to get money from it."
What could be a more apt description of the TeenHurt marketing strategy?
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A group of consultants gets invited to the school at this time every year. It is called the Dogwood Tour and has happened every year for probably seven or eight years now. I am not saying things aren't crazy at HLA right now, but this is not out of the ordinary.
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On 2006-03-08 07:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"A group of consultants gets invited to the school at this time every year. It is called the Dogwood Tour and has happened every year for probably seven or eight years now. I am not saying things aren't crazy at HLA right now, but this is not out of the ordinary."
SHH!!! Is that you?????
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I knew she couldn't resist!! DJ is probably right on though about her being semi-gagged. Now she'll just post inocuous little factoids that can't really get her in any trouble.........and she'll do it anon.
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Wonder what HLA Truth has to say about all this? Maybe that was him posting instead of SHH. He's online right now obviously reading. Why so quiet Truth??????
Why have all the "supporters" shut up all of a sudden?????
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On 2006-03-08 07:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"A group of consultants gets invited to the school at this time every year. It is called the Dogwood Tour and has happened every year for probably seven or eight years now. I am not saying things aren't crazy at HLA right now, but this is not out of the ordinary."
Shhh what exactly do you mean by "crazy"? What have your imaginary sources told you? Please fill us in we'd love to hear.
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On 2006-03-08 07:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wonder what HLA Truth has to say about all this? Maybe that was him posting instead of SHH. He's online right now obviously reading. Why so quiet Truth??????
Why have all the "supporters" shut up all of a sudden?????"
Truth is no longer at HLA. I'm in touch and will provide any relevent updates.
As far as DAMAGE CONTROL goes, the new PR person is going to replace Nicole Fulsgang, who's ass is reportedly still red and sore due to the out-and-out SPANKING she received at the hands of Clarke Poole.
Her credibility is shattered and she's being pulled from the job.
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This girl? What did she do?
(http://http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/cgi-bin/headShot/Nicole-FulgsangF.jpg)
Nicole Fuglsang
Director of Public Relations/Admissions
B.A. Psychology ? University of Northern Colorado M.A. Counseling ? Denver Seminary. Licensed Professional Counselor. Nicole is married and has one child. Nicole is originally from Colorado and enjoys reading and snow skiing (downhill and cross country).
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On 2006-03-08 07:37:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
Truth is no longer at HLA.
Ahhh, he's come over to the dark side of the force.
:lol:
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This girl? What did she do?
She's the one who had the contentious email exchanges with Clarke Poole.
In the emails, she was caught red-handed in several BIG lies about HLA and its residents and was busted by Mr. Poole, with supporting evidence obtained from Bill Gray (you see the tangled web). Clarke basically called her a liar and gave evidence he got from Bill to show it and then sent all that info to the EdCons.
Clarke sent those emails to about 25 EdCons who do business with HLA. Subsequently, one or more of those EdCons distributed the emails to their ENTIRE CONTACT LIST of EdCons (in and out of HLA's network). That has the boss in an absolute UPROAR and has them in full-time damage control mode.
This is why Nicole is getting moved. She was dumb enough to put serious, private business in uncontrolled documents. Live and learn, Nicole.
I don't know if she's been shitcanned or just silenced.
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It has changed again...Last night Lenny B. was
gone...what is with that?
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On 2006-03-08 08:02:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
Clarke sent those emails to about 25 EdCons who do business with HLA. Subsequently, one or more of those EdCons distributed the emails to their ENTIRE CONTACT LIST of EdCons (in and out of HLA's network). That has the boss in an absolute UPROAR and has them in full-time damage control mode.
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
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Have those emails been posted somewhere? If not, will they be anytime soon? I would imagine it's not really a privacy issue anymore since they've been sent to Ed Cons (apt abbreviation) and parents.
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On 2006-03-08 08:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Have those emails been posted somewhere? If not, will they be anytime soon? I would imagine it's not really a privacy issue anymore since they've been sent to Ed Cons (apt abbreviation) and parents."
Maybe someone else who has received them could post 'em? I haven't yet because I'm allergic to process servers.
I have no doubts that they'll be made available at some point. Once I see them posted somewhere else or get direct confirmation from someone else who has received them, I'll post them here.
BTW, has anyone posted these developments on ST?
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ST?
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Struggling Teens. I have no clue come to think of it but it's a great idea.
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Yes or no?
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Hi there-
I hear and understand that a number of you folks have concerns. I hope we can remember that these staff are human beings who have helped many families positively and have chosen their jobs for that reason. I am really surprised at some of the remarks I?ve seen on here about staff. Having had a child at HLA, I have worked with Ms. Fuglsang and can say she is a reliable and honest individual who puts her heart into her work with these kids. I truly trusted her to follow through and care for my child. She helped us so very much. I think that having to accept that your child and family need help is the hardest thing a parent can do. Accepting help from another adult with our child was painful for me. Each of us deals with is differently, and has to learn to cope with the feelings it brings up- for me it was shame, hurt, and honestly, desperation that I wasn?t able to fix the situation myself. Let?s face it, Dr. Spock doesn?t cover everything! I can honestly say that in our situation, trusting in the process and staying engaged allowed us to grow tremendously as a family.
I am thankful Ms. Fuglsang was a part of that process- she was able to help us through in a time when we questioned if we could.
I wish each of you the best with your families.
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On 2006-03-09 04:27:00, SL51 wrote:
"Hi there-
I hear and understand that a number of you folks have concerns. I hope we can remember that these staff are human beings who have helped many families positively and have chosen their jobs for that reason. I am really surprised at some of the remarks I?ve seen on here about staff. Having had a child at HLA, I have worked with Ms. Fuglsang and can say she is a reliable and honest individual who puts her heart into her work with these kids. I truly trusted her to follow through and care for my child. She helped us so very much. I think that having to accept that your child and family need help is the hardest thing a parent can do. Accepting help from another adult with our child was painful for me. Each of us deals with is differently, and has to learn to cope with the feelings it brings up- for me it was shame, hurt, and honestly, desperation that I wasn?t able to fix the situation myself. Let?s face it, Dr. Spock doesn?t cover everything! I can honestly say that in our situation, trusting in the process and staying engaged allowed us to grow tremendously as a family.
I am thankful Ms. Fuglsang was a part of that process- she was able to help us through in a time when we questioned if we could.
I wish each of you the best with your families.
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Completely appropriate that this was posted under "damage control".
Thanks for the best wishes, the same to you and yours. Sit back and watch, I think you're girl Nicole is in a bit of hot water....along with the rest of HLA.
:lol:
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I have worked with Ms. Fuglsang and can say she is a reliable and honest individual who puts her heart into her work with these kids.
Really? Wow. How well could you possibly have known her? Some of her collegues who know her very well consider her to be an unmitigated liar. Many Educational Consultants hold the same view after she was caught in bald-faced lies regarding patient care and placement in email exchanges that were released publicly by a collegue.
I think the point that you're missing is that this type of prevarication damnages patient care. HLA is, in fact, according to several of its employees, a DANGEROUS environment where little consideration is given to the appropriateness of a resident's placement and a premium is placed on the family's ability to pay the tuition.
Some employees have recently raised concerns about what type of patient is accepted for treatment there. Apparently there have been several adolescents accepted by Nicole and Len that were completely inappropriate for the environment. These placements reportedly led directly to at least two serious instances of physical assault and one incident involving the brutal sexual battery of a female resident that caused damage so severe to her pelvic region that she required hospitalization for her injuries.
These incidents transpired as a DIRECT RESULT of the incompetence of staff members who you view as "caring." I am sorry to say that your perception of events is greatly skewed.
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I'm interested to see whether or not she will address those concerns rather than talking about how great the little liar is.
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Louis Randall
Director of Development
B.A. History, Hampden-Sydney College, Virginia M.Ed Guidance & Counseling ? College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, VA
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With those credentials, why one arth would he come to Hidden Lake..Maybe he is not privy to what is going on there....
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On 2006-03-09 04:27:00, SL51 wrote:
Having had a child at HLA, I have worked with Ms. Fuglsang and can say she is a reliable and honest individual who puts her heart into her work with these kids.
Yes, and Büsh can say he won the election and that Sadam Hussen ordered teh WTO attack and that he's doing God's will. Doesn't make it true, darlin. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.
-- Patrick Henry
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Just for the record Bush did win the election. Both times.
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Bush might have won, but he sure didn't do it legally.
Sorry, I am not a Bush fan AT ALL.
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Welcome back...
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On 2006-03-10 20:04:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Just for the record Bush did win the election. Both times. "
No, he really didn't.
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On 2006-03-09 04:59:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
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I have worked with Ms. Fuglsang and can say she is a reliable and honest individual who puts her heart into her work with these kids.
Really? Wow. How well could you possibly have known her? Some of her collegues who know her very well consider her to be an unmitigated liar. Many Educational Consultants hold the same view after she was caught in bald-faced lies regarding patient care and placement in email exchanges that were released publicly by a collegue.
I think the point that you're missing is that this type of prevarication damnages patient care. HLA is, in fact, according to several of its employees, a DANGEROUS environment where little consideration is given to the appropriateness of a resident's placement and a premium is placed on the family's ability to pay the tuition.
Some employees have recently raised concerns about what type of patient is accepted for treatment there. Apparently there have been several adolescents accepted by Nicole and Len that were completely inappropriate for the environment. These placements reportedly led directly to at least two serious instances of physical assault and one incident involving the brutal sexual battery of a female resident that caused damage so severe to her pelvic region that she required hospitalization for her injuries.
These incidents transpired as a DIRECT RESULT of the incompetence of staff members who you view as "caring." I am sorry to say that your perception of events is greatly skewed.
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Let's not forget the topic of the thread...
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On 2006-03-11 06:19:00, SHH wrote:
"Bush might have won, but he sure didn't do it legally.
Sorry, I am not a Bush fan AT ALL."
I'm not a Bush fan either but he did in fact win. Both times. Now addressed the issue.
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So what's the concensus? Has SHH been gagged? By either her ex or HLA?
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There are a lot of posts that I suspect are her. Even if it's not actually her posting, she could be telling someone else what to post thus avoiding the dreaded IP trace.
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On 2006-03-09 04:59:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
Really? Wow. How well could you possibly have known her? Some of her collegues who know her very well consider her to be an unmitigated liar. Many Educational Consultants hold the same view after she was caught in bald-faced lies regarding patient care and placement in email exchanges that were released publicly by a collegue.
I think the point that you're missing is that this type of prevarication damnages patient care. HLA is, in fact, according to several of its employees, a DANGEROUS environment where little consideration is given to the appropriateness of a resident's placement and a premium is placed on the family's ability to pay the tuition.
Some employees have recently raised concerns about what type of patient is accepted for treatment there. Apparently there have been several adolescents accepted by Nicole and Len that were completely inappropriate for the environment. These placements reportedly led directly to at least two serious instances of physical assault and one incident involving the brutal sexual battery of a female resident that caused damage so severe to her pelvic region that she required hospitalization for her injuries.
These incidents transpired as a DIRECT RESULT of the incompetence of staff members who you view as "caring." I am sorry to say that your perception of events is greatly skewed.
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SHH......what's your take on this?
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It just amazes me how this woman would not shut up for the last few years about HLA and other programs but now all of a sudden.....nothing.
What gives SHH? Seriously.
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Every post that is me, I use this ID. None of the anonymous posts in the past few weeks/month are me, no matter how much some want to believe it. I am not gagged by any court order, nor have I been told to do or not do anything. I am choosing to not post on this issue right now for my own personal reasons. I continue to follow this topic, however I am not posting on it for the time being.
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On 2006-03-13 10:01:00, SHH wrote:
"Every post that is me, I use this ID. None of the anonymous posts in the past few weeks/month are me, no matter how much some want to believe it. I am not gagged by any court order, nor have I been told to do or not do anything. I am choosing to not post on this issue right now for my own personal reasons. I continue to follow this topic, however I am not posting on it for the time being. "
But why? You were so anxious to jump on every post that you disagreed with before....what's the change now? Could it be that you realized you've been talking out your ass and backing the wrong horse? Too scared to defend your position now?
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Thats it exactly.
Cybil cant stand to accept the fact that she supported child abuse for all these years.
Its not like you werent told about it Bullfrog.
You have no one to blame but yourself.
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I know that is you Robert, posting about "backing the wrong horse." I already told you in PM, and the rest of the board, that I have my own personal reasons. I do not have to share those reasons with you. Please just leave me out of this for the time being. I will not answer your questions here, or in PM. I do not care to discuss this issue further with you. Please respect my request and leave me alone.
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Yeah, we've heard that one before about you not posting anon, remember? That turned out to be not exactly the truth now did it?
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On 2006-03-13 10:05:00, SHH wrote:
"I know that is you Robert, posting about "backing the wrong horse." I already told you in PM, and the rest of the board, that I have my own personal reasons. I do not have to share those reasons with you. Please just leave me out of this for the time being. I will not answer your questions here, or in PM. I do not care to discuss this issue further with you. Please respect my request and leave me alone."
No, it is most definitely not him. Ask Ginger if it is. No, she doesn't have my permission to say who I am, but she can verify that I'm not RB.
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Check with Ginger if you dont believe me. I have 2 IPs both of which she knows. Those were NOT me in the past few weeks no anonymous posts have been mine. Check with her, she will verify this.
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On 2006-03-13 10:05:00, SHH wrote:
"I know that is you Robert, posting about "backing the wrong horse." I already told you in PM, and the rest of the board, that I have my own personal reasons. I do not have to share those reasons with you. Please just leave me out of this for the time being. I will not answer your questions here, or in PM. I do not care to discuss this issue further with you. Please respect my request and leave me alone."
Oh sure, you want us to respect YOU, but how much respect have you shown any of us over the years, hmmm? Exactly NONE!!
Ya shouldn't have been dishin' it out if ya can't take it in return.
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On 2006-03-13 10:07:00, SHH wrote:
"Check with Ginger if you dont believe me. I have 2 IPs both of which she knows. Those were NOT me in the past few weeks no anonymous posts have been mine. Check with her, she will verify this. "
I still think you could be getting a friend to post. You dictate, they post and then you're untraceable.
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The reason I am saying you are Robert, is the expression "backing the wrong horse" was used by Robert in his PM to me about 45 min ago,and in that anonymous post. Pretty coincidental dontcha think?
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Nope, not doing that either. I really dont care whether you believe me or not, its a fact. Feel free to dish out the insults. I dont care. I just dont want to post in this topic right now, End of Story.
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On 2006-03-13 10:05:00, SHH wrote:
I already told you in PM, and the rest of the board, that I have my own personal reasons. I do not have to share those reasons with you.
No you don't but it sure says a lot about you.
Please just leave me out of this for the time being.
Why? You've involved yourself so heavily over the past years, why should we leave you out of it now?
I will not answer your questions here, or in PM. I do not care to discuss this issue further with you. Please respect my request and leave me alone."
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Yeah, we figured as much. You'll answer as long as you think you've got us 'pinned' but the minute the shit starts to hit the fan you shut up. We really didn't expect anything else from you.
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On 2006-03-13 10:09:00, SHH wrote:
I just dont want to post in this topic right now, End of Story."
Yes, but your reasons WHY you don't want to post are what's really telling.
:lol: :lol:
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On 2006-03-13 10:08:00, SHH wrote:
"The reason I am saying you are Robert, is the expression "backing the wrong horse" was used by Robert in his PM to me about 45 min ago,and in that anonymous post. Pretty coincidental dontcha think?"
Could be but as I said, ask Ginger if these posts are RB. She'll tell you they're not.
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On 2006-03-13 10:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-13 10:08:00, SHH wrote:
"The reason I am saying you are Robert, is the expression "backing the wrong horse" was used by Robert in his PM to me about 45 min ago,and in that anonymous post. Pretty coincidental dontcha think?"
Could be but as I said, ask Ginger if these posts are RB. She'll tell you they're not."
Chalk it up to great minds thinking alike. :tup: :lol:
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Its a common phrase Bullfrog if it was me I would cop to it.
I unlike you have no need to lie and pretend I didnt say things I really did.
Im not a liar like you Bullfrog.
Now the point was made that you ask us to respect your wishes when youve done nothing of the kind. Youre obviously still interested in what we have to say on here and just when exactly that hammer is going to drop (rest assured very very soon), so the question to you remains.
Do you now acknowledge that you were wrong about HLA?
Yes or no Cybie?
While I cannot speak for others I personally will stop talking to you if youll answer that question.
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RobertBruce-
Don't you live in Florida? Aren't you unemployed and have nothing better to do then to sit around and wage "word wars" to entertain yourself? I wonder what your wife thinks while she works her butt off to support you and you are at home doing this sort of thing?so long as the priest, that professional negator, slanderer and poisoner of life, is regarded as a superior type of human being, there cannot be any answer to the question: What is truth?
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
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Do I live in Florida?
Am I unemployed?
How can you be so sure of such things?
Interestingly enough Im on Spring Break but am doing a take home exam while waging my "word war".
What are you up to?
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On 2006-03-13 10:29:00, lmnop wrote:
"RobertBruce-
Don't you live in Florida? Aren't you unemployed and have nothing better to do then to sit around and wage "word wars" to entertain yourself? I wonder what your wife thinks while she works her butt off to support you and you are at home doing this sort of thing
You're first post here is going to be an ad hominem attack???? :roll: Better smarten up if you're gonna play with this crowd there bubba. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Oh I doubt its this little puppets first comment.
Whats the matter stooge anxious over your job security?
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I'm not quite sure you used "ad hominem" correctly.
I have found that the best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it
--Harry S. Truman
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You're not even worth the effort. I am done with you.
No synonym for God is so perfect as Beauty. Whether as seen carving the lines of the mountains with glaciers, or gathering matter into stars, or planning the movements of water, or gardening - still all is Beauty!
-- John Muir
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On 2006-03-13 10:45:00, lmnop wrote:
"I'm not quite sure you used "ad hominem" correctly.I have found that the best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it
--Harry S. Truman
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally "argument against the person") or attacking the messenger, is a logical fallacy that involves replying to an argument or assertion by attacking the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself. However, not all attacks against the person involve fallacious reasoning (see Validity below).
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No he did.
Now answer the question lap dog.
Or have you already begun the training videos at McDonalds?
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On 2006-03-13 10:49:00, lmnop wrote:
"You're not even worth the effort. I am done with you.No synonym for God is so perfect as Beauty. Whether as seen carving the lines of the mountains with glaciers, or gathering matter into stars, or planning the movements of water, or gardening - still all is Beauty!
-- John Muir
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Thanks for playing lap dog we'll see your replacement soon.
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On 2006-03-13 10:49:00, lmnop wrote:
"You're not even worth the effort. I am done with you.No synonym for God is so perfect as Beauty. Whether as seen carving the lines of the mountains with glaciers, or gathering matter into stars, or planning the movements of water, or gardening - still all is Beauty!
-- John Muir
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Shit, I've seen you in Who's Online lurking around here for a while. Did you think you were going to get a different response posting what you did??
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:cry: your words...they just hurt so much... I can barely stand to read your pathetic attemps to cut me down
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Ok, well what's your point in posting? Do you have something to say or are you just going to continue with the ad hominems?
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Hey LMNOP....will you please ask HLA to do something about that lion dick in that silhouette on their webpage? It's a little disturbing.
Thanks. :lol:
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Exactly my point-
Ya'll are a joke. Do you really think that anyone outside of your deranged little circle cares or worries about what you say?
For God's sake, half of what you do is waste your time talking about a stupid picture of a lion...seriously-you think you have all of this "inside" information but when it boils down to it...you don't have SHIT
Do you know why you don't have SHIT to say...because there is NOTHING to say. :grin: Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence
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On 2006-03-13 11:17:00, lmnop wrote:
"Exactly my point-
Ya'll are a joke. Do you really think that anyone outside of your deranged little circle cares or worries about what you say?
For God's sake, half of what you do is waste your time talking about a stupid picture of a lion...seriously-you think you have all of this "inside" information but when it boils down to it...you don't have SHIT
Do you know why you don't have SHIT to say...because there is NOTHING to say. :grin:
Precisely as I predicted. You'll go after and answer the stupid questions and comments but you won't dare try us on any of the real issues.
Thanks for proving my point.
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What exactly have YOU contributed to the conversation? You're first post was an attack on RB. I'll ask again, do you have anything you'd like to say or ask or are you just here to stir up shit in a weak attempt at some sort of damage control?
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Funny how he jumps on the easy targets but quickly leaves when asked legit questions. How typical. We've seen this in virtually EVERY HLA supporter.
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No, I basically said everything I needed to say.
The reason I don't respond to anything besides your stupidity is because what you claim to be facts, etc. have no validity to them.
So, it has been fun...thanks for entertaining me on this dreary day.Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance in America is lighting a fire underneath his own home.
--Harold E. Stassen, 1947
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On 2006-03-13 12:07:00, lmnop wrote:
"No, I basically said everything I needed to say.
Well, please help me out then cause I must really be dense. What did you say?
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On 2006-03-11 13:05:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"
On 2006-03-11 06:19:00, SHH wrote:
"Bush might have won, but he sure didn't do it legally.
Sorry, I am not a Bush fan AT ALL."
I'm not a Bush fan either but he did in fact win. Both times. Now addressed the issue. "
No one will ever know for sure. Some suggested reading:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2 ... m_wit.html (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/11/the_problem_wit.html)
http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/ (http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/)
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm)
Very suspicious that the manufacturers of the voting machines used in both Bush elections are heavy backers of Bush and are heavily funded by far-right families.
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There's been some good discussion on that topic in Tacitus' Realm
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=32&2652 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=32&2652)
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On 2006-03-13 11:17:00, lmnop wrote:
"Exactly my point-
Ya'll are a joke. Do you really think that anyone outside of your deranged little circle cares or worries about what you say?
For God's sake, half of what you do is waste your time talking about a stupid picture of a lion...seriously-you think you have all of this "inside" information but when it boils down to it...you don't have SHIT
Do you know why you don't have SHIT to say...because there is NOTHING to say. :grin: Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence
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Are we now?
If thats true why have you all been trying desperately to shut us up?
Why is the school suffering so badly if our truth telling has no effect?
Why can none of you stooges stand to address the real issues?
You get back to me on that cupcake.
That is if you have time from filling out job applications.
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On 2006-03-13 11:17:00, lmnop wrote:
"Exactly my point-
Ya'll are a joke. Do you really think that anyone outside of your deranged little circle cares or worries about what you say?
For God's sake, half of what you do is waste your time talking about a stupid picture of a lion...seriously-you think you have all of this "inside" information but when it boils down to it...you don't have SHIT"
Are you an employee of HLA?
I wonder if maybe you haven't concerned yourself only with BS bickering rather than engaging yourself in real debate about the efficacy of HLA's program. I certainly will give you counterpoints if only you had something to say.
As far as anyone outside our "deranged little circle" caring about what we say here, how could you possibly know this? You are obviously not plugged in or you would know that Fornits has a dedicated following right on HLA's campus. You'd know that the kids sneak peeks whenever possible and always make contact while on home visits.
Now aside from that particular reference, there are, of course, many people involved with us. Stick around for a few weeks and I promise you you'll eat those words.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :wink:
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Oh...D.J- I have been waiting for a reply from you...I don't concern myself with any debate with you or any of the other mindless monkeys on here because none of you have any real information. It would be difficult to debate with you, since you don't have near the "scoop" you think that you have.
:wave: Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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Really, lmnop? Well just what IS the "scoop" then? Please enlighten us.
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On 2006-03-13 15:24:00, lmnop wrote:
"Oh...D.J- I have been waiting for a reply from you...I don't concern myself with any debate with you or any of the other mindless monkeys on here because none of you have any real information. It would be difficult to debate with you, since you don't have near the "scoop" you think that you have.
:wave: Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
So your argument is that because its to easy to win the argument its to difficult to debate us?
Wow.
If youd like to explain the mass exodus/firings/cutbacks/investigations and offer another alternative to the truth weve given please by all means.
Otherwise I suggest you spend more time polishing up that resume of yours. Trust us youre going to need it.
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That is a joke...so which 'twit' are you?
Teedle dumb or tweedle dee?
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You couldn't be more wrong LMNOP. People do actually know what is going out there. Damning that it is, there appears to be a steady stream of credible information coming from within what I am assuming is your organization. That would either make you dreadfully naive or not intelligent enough to realize that without referrals the influx of students will be greatly reduced.
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Referrals, like the kind that places you behind bars with stripes on your body?
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Like I said...ya'll don't have a leg to stand on. From what I see from your past dialogue, you get one tidbit of information (half the time it isn't completely correct information) and you take it and completely blow it out of proportion...you get yourself all worked up like you have found a big huge piece of ground breaking news...when all that has happened is one minor event.
You really make yourselves look like bumbling idiots. I almost feel sorry for you.
You really should find a better cause. There are way worse things in this world besides HLAscreening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
Sanho Tree
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So then Clarke sending out those emails to however many EdCons he did is really of no consequence then, huh?
The high rate of staff turnover is no indicator of any possible problems then, right?
HLA being so litigious towards kids/staff/parents etc. means nothing, right?
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On 2006-03-14 05:30:00, lmnop wrote:
"Like I said...ya'll don't have a leg to stand on. From what I see from your past dialogue, you get one tidbit of information (half the time it isn't completely correct information) and you take it and completely blow it out of proportion...you get yourself all worked up like you have found a big huge piece of ground breaking news...when all that has happened is one minor event.
You really make yourselves look like bumbling idiots. I almost feel sorry for you.
You really should find a better cause. There are way worse things in this world besides HLAscreening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
Sanho Tree
"
If I were you I'd get my resume up to date. It won't be long before you're out there looking for a new job.
You can say what you want, but you'll be proven wrong very shortly.
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On 2006-03-14 05:30:00, lmnop wrote:
"Like I said...ya'll don't have a leg to stand on. From what I see from your past dialogue, you get one tidbit of information (half the time it isn't completely correct information) and you take it and completely blow it out of proportion...you get yourself all worked up like you have found a big huge piece of ground breaking news...when all that has happened is one minor event.
You really make yourselves look like bumbling idiots. I almost feel sorry for you.
You really should find a better cause. There are way worse things in this world besides HLAscreening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
Sanho Tree
"
For crying out loud, lmnop. Instead of just running your mouth, why don't you put your money where you mouth is and tell us what exactly people have been wrong about? Refute what we have said and PROVE us wrong, instead of just SAYING we are wrong with no explanation. Enlighten us, please. Otherwise just shut up and leave.
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On 2006-03-14 05:30:00, lmnop wrote:
"Like I said...ya'll don't have a leg to stand on. From what I see from your past dialogue, you get one tidbit of information (half the time it isn't completely correct information) and you take it and completely blow it out of proportion...you get yourself all worked up like you have found a big huge piece of ground breaking news...when all that has happened is one minor event.
Alright, let's discuss it then. What have we gotten wrong or blown out of proportion? All you've done so far since you've been on here (at least under a name) is throw out attacks. Not once have you talked about any of the issues that we've been discussing. Why is that?
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Please cite what specific information you believe we've blown out of proportion.
We have so much damaging information on the school you should have no trouble picking out one or two.
Get back to us soon.
:wink:
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On 2006-03-14 06:01:00, LMJ630 wrote:
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On 2006-03-14 05:30:00, lmnop wrote:
"Like I said...ya'll don't have a leg to stand on. From what I see from your past dialogue, you get one tidbit of information (half the time it isn't completely correct information) and you take it and completely blow it out of proportion...you get yourself all worked up like you have found a big huge piece of ground breaking news...when all that has happened is one minor event.
You really make yourselves look like bumbling idiots. I almost feel sorry for you.
You really should find a better cause. There are way worse things in this world besides HLAscreening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
Sanho Tree
"
For crying out loud, lmnop. Instead of just running your mouth, why don't you put your money where you mouth is and tell us what exactly people have been wrong about? Refute what we have said and PROVE us wrong, instead of just SAYING we are wrong with no explanation. Enlighten us, please. Otherwise just shut up and leave."
You're not likely to get a meaningful answer here. There is a plan in place at HLA, initiated by management, to direct employees to this site to "flood" it so that it becomes unusable.
Well, lmnop (or abc123 - whatever you like to call yourself today), it's not going to work. We're already hip to the plan and if need be can take measures to disable your ability to post such as banning the IP address all of you use to post (your HLA static IP address) or simply delete your posts for "spamming."
As an aside, since you all are not technically savvy, you should realize a couple of things. One, I know your IP address. Two, your entire LAN can be crippled quite easily to the point where you can't recover it, especially without the aid of your recently departed network administrator.
Try me and see what happens.
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On 2006-03-14 07:02:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
You're not likely to get a meaningful answer here. There is a plan in place at HLA, initiated by management, to direct employees to this site to "flood" it so that it becomes unusable.
Well, lmnop (or abc123 - whatever you like to call yourself today), it's not going to work. We're already hip to the plan and if need be can take measures to disable your ability to post such as banning the IP address all of you use to post (your HLA static IP address) or simply delete your posts for "spamming."
As an aside, since you all are not technically savvy, you should realize a couple of things. One, I know your IP address. Two, your entire LAN can be crippled quite easily to the point where you can't recover it, especially without the aid of your recently departed network administrator.
Try me and see what happens."
I don't think we should ban them. I mean they're making themselves look beyond stupid. Any reader that sees how LMNOP has conducted themselves since registering can see that they've got absolutely nothing to say so they resort to the ad hominems. It's really kind of amusing. If they really had anything to refute what we've said, they'd do it. But they don't so they can't. Funny when you think about it.
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Well, it just depends on how much of a mess I have to clean up. It seems incredibly stupid for these folks to do something like that. But then, remember the Whit? I'm pretty sure they actually put the kids up to it. And, of course, I've been training w/ Animals for a couple of years now. So I think I'm probably up to the challenge.
God is inconceivable, immortality is unbelievable, but duty is peremptory and absolute.
--George Eliot, author
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You're not likely to get a meaningful answer here. There is a plan in place at HLA, initiated by management, to direct employees to this site to "flood" it so that it becomes unusable.
Well, lmnop (or abc123 - whatever you like to call yourself today), it's not going to work. We're already hip to the plan and if need be can take measures to disable your ability to post such as banning the IP address all of you use to post (your HLA static IP address) or simply delete your posts for "spamming."
As an aside, since you all are not technically savvy, you should realize a couple of things. One, I know your IP address. Two, your entire LAN can be crippled quite easily to the point where you can't recover it, especially without the aid of your recently departed network administrator.
Try me and see what happens."
Now this is odd. Tell us lollipop why would HLA have a need or direct its staff to flood this site if we pose no threat and "havent got a leg to stand on.?
?????[ This Message was edited by: RobertBruce on 2006-03-14 08:46 ]
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Our 'little tidbits, are going to be like
the 4th of July, so sit back, relax and enjoy the show....
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To be honest...I haven't heard of the whole "flooding scandal". You must really be getting some juicy inside information.
No, I am not going to divulge anything I know to you. I just wanted the random people who come on this to know that you don't know what you are talking about, nor do you understand what is going on at HLA- because you not only are very biased, but those who are feeding your rumor mill are very biased.
As for you D.J...no wonder more people don't post here, do you threaten everyone? Do you really think I didn't know you can't see where I am writing from?
And this part below that you posted...why do you feel the need to threaten me? What is that about? Where did that come from?
"...Two, your entire LAN can be crippled quite easily to the point where you can't recover it, especially without the aid of your recently departed network administrator
Try me and see what happens..."The people's right to change what does not work is one of the greatest
principles in our system of government
--Richard M. Nixon
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Lets take a page from HLA and do a little role playing.
I'm a random person who might have a child at HLA or is considering sending my child there.
Here I find multiple people who dont know each other and come from different time periods all saying the same thing.
I see people making claims against HLA and providing either proof or the means in which to prove the claims.
I also see people like you who come on here discount all claims but;
A. Don't offer any proof on the matter.
B. Aren't even willing to discuss the specific aspects of problems with the school.
C. Inevitably resorting to ad hominenum attacks and refuse to answer any real questions.
.......
Wow youre right lollipop you sure showed us.
I am curious though, are you claiming that while we are biased you are not?
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On 2006-03-14 10:18:00, lmnop wrote:
"To be honest...I haven't heard of the whole "flooding scandal". You must really be getting some juicy inside information.
No, I am not going to divulge anything I know to you. I just wanted the random people who come on this to know that you don't know what you are talking about, nor do you understand what is going on at HLA- because you not only are very biased, but those who are feeding your rumor mill are very biased.
As for you D.J...no wonder more people don't post here, do you threaten everyone? Do you really think I didn't know you can't see where I am writing from?
And this part below that you posted...why do you feel the need to threaten me? What is that about? Where did that come from?
"...Two, your entire LAN can be crippled quite easily to the point where you can't recover it, especially without the aid of your recently departed network administrator
Try me and see what happens..."The people's right to change what does not work is one of the greatest
principles in our system of government
--Richard M. Nixon
"
I haven't threatened anybody. I just said flood this board and see what happens. Turnabout is fair play, no?
And yes, I do get "juicy inside information." I'd hazzard a guess that I know a hell of a lot more about what's going on there than you do.
Remember, you're just a tool of the people you work for. When they're done with you, they'll discard you like trash. You might not "get it" until then.
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Oh, wait...that's your usual m.o. ...that you know more that anyone..right? Oh, okay.
Here's something I'm willing to share...enrollment is higher now than in a long time.
Hmmm, I guess that is partly due to the negative press you give HLA. People are more willing to really check it out and see that it is a positive option for many families.
Forgive, O Lord, my little joke on Thee and I'll forgive Thy great big one on me.
--Robert Frost, American poet
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Oh but your retention rate is at about 40%.
More and more parents are pulling their kids out due to the truth being told I guess.
Hmmmm
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They would probably think I sound about as convincing as you do- so we probably just cancel each other out.
Wow...you really showed me the light, thanks for that insight. What peer group were you in again?When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.
-- Bill Clinton, 3-22-94
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Hey, you just carry on as usual. I really don't care.
You will see enrollment down - way down. Wait a while.
Like I said, sharpen up that resume and get your reference letters in order.
And, no, I don't know more than everyone. I just know more than you, as is evidenced by your comments. You are clearly just a plebe there and are not privy to the information that I am.
In any case, that will al be immaterial very soon. In the meantime, is there some specific aspects of HLA you'd like to discuss? What are your qualifications to engage in debate over therapeutic programming? I'd be glad to debate you any time about your program.
So let's try to talk about substantive facts for a while. Do you have anything to add to the discussion or are you here just to bash children who've been through your program?
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On 2006-03-14 10:59:00, lmnop wrote:
People are more willing to really check it out and see that it is a positive option for many families.
And for 50% (average), it shant be long before they realize they made an error in judgment.
The other 50% will join the leagues of the mentally lame who will never figure it out.
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I am not bashing children. I do what I do because I care about children. Believe me, I am very qualified.
It is easy to see that you are going to refute anything I say by just stating I am a plebe, lapdog, or any of the other names you have called me.
Good luck waiting on the demise of HLA.
Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following
pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them
general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong,
gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises
at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the
tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason.
Thomas Paine, Common Sense
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On 2006-03-14 11:04:00, lmnop wrote:
"They would probably think I sound about as convincing as you do- so we probably just cancel each other out.
Wow...you really showed me the light, thanks for that insight. What peer group were you in again?When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.
-- Bill Clinton, 3-22-94
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That might be the case except for the fact that we back up our claims, whereas you all just avoid the issues.
So I guess we have more credibility than you afterall.
Now why are you asking me what peer group I was in? I thought you knew all about me. Remember you claimed just yesterday that I didnt have a job and I lived in Florida.
Figuring out what peer group I was in should be a piece of cake. If youre stumped though just ask Mrs. Gray, shed be happy to take a look at confidential files for you and have a guess.
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People are more willing to really check it out
True. There a quite a few people willing to check it out. Unfortunately for you and your colleagues, they're not parents.
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No, I am not going to divulge anything I know to you. I just wanted the random people who come on this to know that you don't know what you are talking about, nor do you understand what is going on at HLA- because you not only are very biased, but those who are feeding your rumor mill are very biased.
You aren't going to divulge anything because you don't know anything. Simple as that. Who is going to believe you when you say that random people shouldn't believe what everyone here says, when you won't even back up your statements? Honestly, buddy, you're not too bright.
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On 2006-03-14 11:11:00, lmnop wrote:
"I am not bashing children. I do what I do because I care about children. Believe me, I am very qualified.
It is easy to see that you are going to refute anything I say by just stating I am a plebe, lapdog, or any of the other names you have called me.
Good luck waiting on the demise of HLA.
Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following
pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them
general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong,
gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises
at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the
tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason.
Thomas Paine, Common Sense
"
Careful what you wish for, cause youre really going to get it this time. I find it interesting that youre crying about us calling you names and saying we will refute anything you have to offer. Lollipop you havent made a whole lot of claims yet. All you keep saying is were wrong about....stuff. Not alot of specifics coming from your end. Now if youd care to step up to the plate and list off claims we've made which you believe to be untrue we can then go ahead and call you names and refute everything you say.
Dont worry though unlike you puppets we'll back up our claims.
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Believe me, I am very qualified
Why should anyone believe you? I surely don't.
State your bona fides and maybe I will. For now, no, I don't believe you're qualified to talk to the issues. I also don't believe that you care about kids. If you did you'd get an honest job.
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Oh and please dont make the claim you care about children. If you did you wouldnt stick around there. You also wouldnt come on here trying to attack people who didnt succumb to your brain washing.
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You are all right. I am wrong. It has become too much. I will no longer post here. I am so distraught. :wave:
I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind and keep them shut by force.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Oh wow none of us saw that one coming.
Take care now, if you need a good letter of recommendation......well I'm sure you'll find something.
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LMNOP..You really cannot be serious..THe retention rate is at 40%...Your Senior staff, Junior Staff have been forced to resign or fired.. What lollipop are you licking lately?
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How can anything be refuted, if you really haven't said anything?
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Also, are you rententions staff..'bashing' is their gig...counselor? mental anguish theirs..
But, this is all ridiculous, because HLA is not
A "Therapeutic Boarding School" remember? It's sole purpose is 'Academics'..It is a college
prep. school...Dah... Maybe you should go back to the hole you crawled out of..
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On 2006-03-14 10:18:00, lmnop wrote:
I just wanted the random people who come on this to know that you don't know what you are talking about, nor do you understand what is going on at HLA- because you not only are very biased, but those who are feeding your rumor mill are very biased.
So ummm, when are you gonna set the record straight? You've said absolutely nothing about HLA. You've had plenty to say in the way of attacking people, but nothing really relevant.
Again, what's your point in posting here? If it's the above, when's that gonna happen?
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"There is a fairly long list of students whose appropriateness I have questioned, especially in the last year or so. To point to just a few, let's look at (Jane Doe 1), (John Doe 1), and (John Doe 2)." Does this look familiar LMNOP? Considering the detailed accounts that followed in the main body of this email I would say that Hidden Lake Academy has a few soiled sheets being aired on a very public laundry line.
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On 2006-03-14 17:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
""There is a fairly long list of students whose appropriateness I have questioned, especially in the last year or so. To point to just a few, let's look at (Jane Doe 1), (John Doe 1), and (John Doe 2)." Does this look familiar LMNOP? Considering the detailed accounts that followed in the main body of this email I would say that Hidden Lake Academy has a few soiled sheets being aired on a very public laundry line.
"
Wow. That looks like a pretty specific quote. Sure would like to see the entire email exchange. LMNOP, care to comment?
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Lollipop is gone. He couldnt handle how easy it was to win the argument by not arguing.
As for the quote...must be a coincidence.
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More likely than not, lmnop does not have any idea about those emails. That information is held at the upper-most levels of management there and lmnop is not tied in at that level. Lmnop is more of a slackey there than a power player.
Lmnop's case is more the ignorant underling blindly defending their workplace while not in possession of the cogent information.
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I just found this when I was looking for places to send my daughter. I see that several of you are regulars and want to know more. Were you students at Hidden Lake Academy? We live in Lumpkin County so it would be convenient for us to send her there.
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On 2006-03-15 12:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just found this when I was looking for places to send my daughter. I see that several of you are regulars and want to know more. Were you students at Hidden Lake Academy? We live in Lumpkin County so it would be convenient for us to send her there."
Troll at work.
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On 2006-03-15 12:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just found this when I was looking for places to send my daughter. I see that several of you are regulars and want to know more. Were you students at Hidden Lake Academy? We live in Lumpkin County so it would be convenient for us to send her there."
How long have you lived in the area?
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On 2006-03-15 12:21:00, Deborah wrote:
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On 2006-03-15 12:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just found this when I was looking for places to send my daughter. I see that several of you are regulars and want to know more. Were you students at Hidden Lake Academy? We live in Lumpkin County so it would be convenient for us to send her there."
Troll at work. "
I agree.
In any case, if you're a parent just looking for the most "convenient" place to "send" your kid, then yeah it would be convenient for you to send her there.
It's right up the road.
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Are you nuts?
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On 2006-03-15 06:53:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"More likely than not, lmnop does not have any idea about those emails. That information is held at the upper-most levels of management there and lmnop is not tied in at that level. Lmnop is more of a slackey there than a power player.
Lmnop's case is more the ignorant underling blindly defending their workplace while not in possession of the cogent information.
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That's my take on it too. Going further, even the founders and long term higher ups are deluded in these places. That's what makes them so damned dangerous. Let's not forget what they did to OverLordd.
Basically, they went after this really clean cut kid, the epitome of Good Kid®, asif he were some kind of dangerous criminal. All the kid did was to 'threaten' to go take some snap shots of the campus.
Why in the world would they act that way? There's only one reason I can think of, and it happens to be perfectly consistent with all of my experience w/ Synanon based cults. Because they view the world as being starkly devided between "Us" and "Them". That's how things always get so incredibly corrupted. They don't listen to valid criticism, never see their failures, can't tolerate even the suggestion that what they're doing is harmful. Instead, they attack and silence critics.
Here's the part most people who didn't grow up in one of these cults often miss. They do the same thing to themselves, in their own heads and in their own families.
Watch the Martin Lee Anderson snuff flick and take note of a couple of things. One, there's the demeanor of ALL of the staff present on the scene, including the camera guy. Camera guy dutifully keeps the scene properly framed. Was he trying to generate damning evidence against them? Probably not. More likely he was just like the rest of the staff, he didn't see anything wrong with what he was filming.
I'm not saying this to excuse what goes on in these places or the people who make it happen. Far from it. I'm saying this so that maybe people will look at ppl like Bill Grey, Rudy Bentz, Len Buchelato(sp?) and all the rest as real live, terminally flawed human beings who have gone wrong.
You can't punish them out of this shit. All you can hope for is that enough of them will see the error of their ways and seek to make amends.Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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HLA reportedly sent out letters to over a hundred EdCons to tell them that this guy Clarke Poole is crazy, irresponsible, unbalanced and should have been fired years ago.
If that's not damage control mode nothing is.
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"Compassion is the basis of morality."
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-03-16 14:26 ]
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Actually, sounds like slander to me.
They came with a Bible and their religion- stole our land, crushed our spirit... and now tell us we should be thankful to the 'Lord' for being saved.
--Chief Pontiac, American Indian Chieftain
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Thats a fun thought. Maybe he should counter sue?
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On 2006-03-17 06:52:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Thats a fun thought. Maybe he should counter sue?"
A taste of their own medicine might do them some good.
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On 2006-03-14 17:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
""There is a fairly long list of students whose appropriateness I have questioned, especially in the last year or so. To point to just a few, let's look at (Jane Doe 1), (John Doe 1), and (John Doe 2)." Does this look familiar LMNOP? Considering the detailed accounts that followed in the main body of this email I would say that Hidden Lake Academy has a few soiled sheets being aired on a very public laundry line.
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Can anyone post the entire contents of this email exchange?
Does anyone know an Ed Con who has received this communication and who would like to share it with all of us?
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What up my niggaz?!!
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On 2006-03-19 15:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-14 17:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
""There is a fairly long list of students whose appropriateness I have questioned, especially in the last year or so. To point to just a few, let's look at (Jane Doe 1), (John Doe 1), and (John Doe 2)." Does this look familiar LMNOP? Considering the detailed accounts that followed in the main body of this email I would say that Hidden Lake Academy has a few soiled sheets being aired on a very public laundry line.
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Can anyone post the entire contents of this email exchange?
Does anyone know an Ed Con who has received this communication and who would like to share it with all of us?"
It will all come out. They've threatened to sue Clarke Poole and if they do, it will become part of the discovery documents. As soon as that happens I'll post it.
If any EdCon or parent who has received it would like to post it, they can feel free to do so.
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Billy boy is offically off the staff listing.
Bullfrog your thoughts?
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Funny, I thought for sure HLA would have some job postings here.
http://www.natsap.org/jobs_list.asp (http://www.natsap.org/jobs_list.asp)
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On 2006-03-24 12:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Funny, I thought for sure HLA would have some job postings here.
http://www.natsap.org/jobs_list.asp (http://www.natsap.org/jobs_list.asp)"
They're looking to cut payroll, so they won't be filling the vacated positions.
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HLA must make the illusion that everything is just peachie, the staff were only given a 2% raise and promised another 1% raise when the student level hit 150, :???: last week they crested 150 , which staff has the nerve to ask for that other 1%????
Better beware , it was given to all in writing
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On 2006-03-24 19:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"HLA must make the illusion that everything is just peachie, the staff were only given a 2% raise and promised another 1% raise when the student level hit 150, :???: last week they crested 150 , which staff has the nerve to ask for that other 1%????
Better beware , it was given to all in writing"
The "other 1%" on average comes to about $240.00. Some raise, huh? :???:
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I think HLA finally figured out that the slackeys they've been sending to troll this site make them look even WORSE than they actually are. Pulling back on the trolling might be the smartest thing they've done yet.
The only real problem with that is there are many unanswered questions posted and those questions' going unanswered looks pretty bad too.
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On 2006-03-08 06:06:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"Public Relations = Advertising
This reminds me of a quote from the famous economist Stephen Leacock:
"Advertising may be described as the science of arresting the human intelligence long enough to get money from it."
What could be a more apt description of the TeenHurt marketing strategy?
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On 2006-03-27 05:13:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"I think HLA finally figured out that the slackeys they've been sending to troll this site make them look even WORSE than they actually are. Pulling back on the trolling might be the smartest thing they've done yet.
The only real problem with that is there are many unanswered questions posted and those questions' going unanswered looks pretty bad too.
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I guess I was wrong about this. There's no shame in being wrong.
The trolls are out in force and HLA looks worse than ever. I had it totally backwards.