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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: The Elan Reporter on March 05, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
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I would like to know why you were sent to elan in the first place. What "wrong turns" in life landed you the displeasure of being sent to Elan?
Truancy was the reason I was sent in the first place. Although Elan saw to it that to have a review of my past and to throw in other excuses which they were famous for.
I had little or no history of drug abuse before going into Elan, yet Elan labled me a person that had a probelm with drugs and or alchol becuase I smoked pot twice when I was 16. Yea, big fuckin deal...
My other peers had a mixed amount of reasons why they landed at Elan. Drugs, alcohol, legal issues, and jail terms were many of the others.
I seen Elan even have a 12 year old sent there and they responsibly held him accountable for adult actions. He was only a kid. The reasons he was there was because he lived with his grand parent and she couldn't control his behavior, and Elan treated him like a adult criminal and abused the hell out of him.
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Well I guess for those of you who were sent to elan for dumb reasons and parents that had tons of money can have the last laugh. Once they (The parents) reach that ripe age, time for a old folks home. I certainly would consider doing that to get back at them if that was the situation.[ This Message was edited by: The Elan Reporter on 2006-03-07 14:34 ]
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so ,, your still mad enough to want revenge against parents?i would think having a son like you was revenge enuf
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On 2006-03-08 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"so ,, your still mad enough to want revenge against parents?i would think having a son like you was revenge enuf"
Oh and I guess your the good son right? You were the good standard hand molded elan bot that Jeff and Marty made you out to be.
I have have heard from people in the past why they were sent to elan, and what their parents were like. Their parents were the ones that needed to be enrolled there, not them.
I recall one girl who was molested by her father many years before entering elan. She was very mentally fucked up because of it. I blame the parent for her behaviors.
Whether you want to believe it or not, there were parents that got so sick-n-tired of their children and had them shipped off to elan. I remember a student talking about in a group how he used to kick his own son out of the house for days because he wanted to be alone with his crak addicted friends and get high. Owm son that he kicked out just to get high.
That is fuckin wrong! And the kid had to pay the price by being sent to elan for 20 some months. It just goes to show, that Elan did not care about back grounds of these students, all they cared about was MONEY. IF you are in the profession of helping troubled teens just for the money, then you are not cut out for that type of job, nor have the right attitude or temperment.
Temperment I am refering to Gottlieb, this man freaked out on teens for little reasons and made them out to be big reasons for no reasons. He is a prime example of someone who is in the wrong profession.
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On 2006-03-14 11:53:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:
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On 2006-03-08 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"so ,, your still mad enough to want revenge against parents?i would think having a son like you was revenge enuf"
Oh and I guess your the good son right? You were the good standard hand molded elan bot that Jeff and Marty made you out to be.
I have have heard from people in the past why they were sent to elan, and what their parents were like. Their parents were the ones that needed to be enrolled there, not them.
I recall one girl who was molested by her father many years before entering elan. She was very mentally fucked up because of it. I blame the parent for her behaviors.
Whether you want to believe it or not, there were parents that got so sick-n-tired of their children and had them shipped off to elan. I remember a student talking about in a group how he used to kick his own son out of the house for days because he wanted to be alone with his crak addicted friends and get high. Owm son that he kicked out just to get high.
That is fuckin wrong! And the kid had to pay the price by being sent to elan for 20 some months. It just goes to show, that Elan did not care about back grounds of these students, all they cared about was MONEY. IF you are in the profession of helping troubled teens just for the money, then you are not cut out for that type of job, nor have the right attitude or temperment.
Temperment I am refering to Gottlieb, this man freaked out on teens for little reasons and made them out to be big reasons for no reasons. He is a prime example of someone who is in the wrong profession.
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so ,, your still mad enough to want revenge against parents?i would think having a son like you was revenge enuf
Well said ! :tup: :tup: :tup:
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trust me,, i know alot of parents hurt their kids . this is news..? but the reality is that anyone would be a fool to share something personal and real w/ you reporter..you cant change your spots, esp. not overnight.go sling shit at str8ts,,, how you can be so caustic and immature 1 day,, then want to be a bleeding heart the next, is beyond me. take your elan terrorist group{ i mean jordan} and go peddle it elsewhere
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He is like a soapo opera.. BAD ACTING :wave:
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HOW TRUE! :lol: :lol: :lol: [ This Message was edited by: Eliscu2 on 2006-03-17 12:38 ]
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On 2006-03-14 13:58:00, Eliscu2 wrote:
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On 2006-03-14 11:53:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:I have have heard from people in the past why they were sent to elan, and what their parents were like. Their parents were the ones that needed to be enrolled there, not them.
My Father and Stepmonster still need to be sent to Elan. Too bad it's not like it was in the early 80's when I was there, for them to experince,or in the late 70's like when they sent my Brother there."
Who was your brother? What house was he in?
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What was the story about that Parsonfeild building that burned down many many years back? Was anyone hurt in the fire? How did it start?
From my history of the place, there was a fire then Poland Springs became the next site.
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I was there when the fire happen. It was nothing at all. We frozed our ass's off outside whilethe fire department put it out. It was started up on the 3rd floor, the girls dorms, but it was'ent in the dorms it was in one of the class rooms at the end of the hall. It didnt spred to the dorms or into the other class rooms. It was just alot of smoke damage. That class room was never used after that. But I know for a Fact 4 didnt close down then. It was a about a year or so after that. Elan 4 was still open when I split in 1981. ::rainbow:: [ This Message was edited by: screann on 2006-03-18 17:27 ]
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class room on 3rd floor,, hmm, i just remember the cells.. p. oing assholes and having to do slash checks.. they musta rehabed rooms after riot...but that was so many brain cells ago...
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On 2006-03-18 17:25:00, screann wrote:
"I was there when the fire happen. It was nothing at all. We frozed our ass's off outside whilethe fire department put it out. It was started up on the 3rd floor, the girls dorms, but it was'ent in the dorms it was in one of the class rooms at the end of the hall. It didnt spred to the dorms or into the other class rooms. It was just alot of smoke damage. That class room was never used after that. But I know for a Fact 4 didnt close down then. It was a about a year or so after that. Elan 4 was still open when I split in 1981. ::rainbow:: [ This Message was edited by: screann on 2006-03-18 17:27 ]"
Then whats this I heard in the past about Parsonfeilds burning to the ground? Or was Parsonfeilds a different place then where you were?
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I was sent to Elan in 1978 I was in Elan 4 I was in that house for most of my time then to 2a back to 4 then 6. As long as i was there Parsonsfield NEVER burnned down to the ground.Tim Donavan stared the fire in a garbage can in the class room. I know this as Fact because Marc put us in a Tight House overe it. And we had to have school in the dinning room for a few months till they got the smoke smell out, but that class room was never used after that. Elan 4 was stll standing when I left. Maybe there was a another fire I didnt know about. Also I never saw or herd of cells at 4. Elan 4 was one big cell itself. Elan 4 was a LOCKED house.You were able to go in you just couldnt go back out.The windows didnt even open.It was just like jail but Worst.
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Elan 4 never burnt to the ground and is still standing today.The inside of the place has been vandalized with spray paint and such.I was in e-4 from late 81 until mid 82.This is not the same group as Dianne's.Her class exceeds ours in notoriety but we were close.We also had to be disbanded.E-4 when I was there had isolation cells on the third floor.
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On 2006-03-20 08:25:00, xres8182 wrote:
"Elan 4 never burnt to the ground and is still standing today.The inside of the place has been vandalized with spray paint and such.I was in e-4 from late 81 until mid 82.This is not the same group as Dianne's.Her class exceeds ours in notoriety but we were close.We also had to be disbanded.E-4 when I was there had isolation cells on the third floor."
I think I remember reading about the isolation cells at survivors many years back. They were similar to what you would find in a mental hospital? Also students that did not comply were sent to them for long periods of time?
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Ask Jackie from the Close the doors site.I bet she could give a more accurate description than I.I remember them being more like mental ward cells with a square hole in the door.It's hard to remember it was so long ago.The outside doors of the house had electric locks and alarms.I wonder how we were supposed to get out if there was a fire.I don't remember if there was a fire escape or not.
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Jim,
During your time @ Elam, did you have to earn your pants and laces as a new resident? I did, but later that was phased out and very rarely did a shot down or even a corner person for that matter have their laces taken away.
It used to go when I first came in, I had to earn pants and laces and wear sweats for about 2 weeks. You actaully would get your pants privs after a week of being there, then the following week earn your laces.
Then when one was shotdown, he/she would automatically loose their laces and pant privs and have to wear sweats during their SD punishment.
Not long after my arrival, this was all phased out and it seemed like the rules became alot easier.
I can only imagine how bad the old school people like you, arthur, and others during that time had it bad.
Arthur used to say that we were in a water downed elan, which I can see his point, because we had alot less bullshit to go through unlike you guys did.
I was just wondering , what other hard times did your era have to go through?
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I don't think laces were taken away unless you did or said something indicating you were a flight risk,and a lot of people did.Personally what I hated most about E was the constant snitching and the regular beatings.
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ehh, ole parsonsfield,,,,,,shoe laces are moot with electric doors and plexiglass windows, i bet its much cheaper to run a tight house than a open 1,, i think it was all a scam
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On 2006-03-21 10:41:00, xres8182 wrote:
"I don't think laces were taken away unless you did or said something indicating you were a flight risk,and a lot of people did.Personally what I hated most about E was the constant snitching and the regular beatings."
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In my time when we would get shot down our shoe laces were taken away and we had to wear shorts and a tee shrit. If we didnt have shorts they would cut our pants and make shorts,if we didnt have a tee shrit they would cut the sleevls off our shrits. I myself had my shoes taken away from me when I was shot down. My socks would get so wet and nastey.In the winter it was worst to wear that getup because It was very cold to be wearing a tee shirt and shorts in the back woods of Maine in the winter. What a bunch of ASSHOLES they were hu, what am I saying they are STILL ASSHOLES. This is Screann, I didnt sign in.
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Also the rooms on the 3rd floor of Elan 4 always had the little windows in the door, because they were class rooms at one time and those doors always had locks on them I think there was 5 class rooms at the end of the hall. One of the rooms was filled with computers that we never used. One teacher I remember Miss Libby she was nice, all the guys like her because she was so pretty. My son is in Maine right now on vac, hes gonna look for Elan and go in and tell them off. I told him I wish I was there Id do more then that.
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Be careful,they'll drop a tresspass charge on your ass quicker than shit.
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I guess it was better at the time I was there becuase alot of things atrted to changes, better from, worse.
We were no longer required to cut our haif, we were no longer banned from wearing concert tees on the floor. Laces taken away and pants was phased out. The only thing that got worse, was the cigarette policy. It was you could get 6 pks a week. to people under 18 would only get 10 single cigs a week.